Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-16 Thread Lars Engels
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:52:26AM -0500, Mark Felder wrote: > On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 11:48:18 -0500, Teske, Devin > wrote: > > I think Mark was saying that libfetch doesn't yet support http proxy. > > Now that I've googled, I was referring to this PR > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=180

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-15 Thread Teske, Devin
On Jul 14, 2013, at 11:42 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 11:52:19PM +, Teske, Devin wrote: >> On Jul 12, 2013, at 4:16 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have just committed (r253305) a change the make pkg_install not being >>> built >>> and install

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-15 Thread Mark Felder
On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 11:48:18 -0500, Teske, Devin wrote: > I think Mark was saying that libfetch doesn't yet support http proxy. Now that I've googled, I was referring to this PR http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=180253 I thought it was complete missing functionality, not just that bug.

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-15 Thread Teske, Devin
On Jul 14, 2013, at 11:38 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 06:51:00PM -0500, Mark Felder wrote: >> On Sat, Jul 13, 2013, at 13:54, Teske, Devin wrote: >>> >>> >>> If FTP access (or any of the other remote access methods) are going away >>> for HEAD pkg access, I'll need t

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-15 Thread Teske, Devin
On Jul 14, 2013, at 11:33 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 04:52:26PM +, Teske, Devin wrote: On Jul 14, 2013, at 8:01 AM, Chris Rees wrote: On 14 Jul 2013, at 08:29, Teske, Devin wrote: Simple, really. Let's take RPM for example. The RPM package format has been porte

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-15 Thread Teske, Devin
On Jul 14, 2013, at 11:27 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 07:29:50AM +, Teske, Devin wrote: >> >>> Or you >>> can maintain the old cruft for your business -- just don't expect >>> anyone else to use it, or even want to. >>> >> >> >> I have no intention of making ol

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-15 Thread Teske, Devin
On Jul 14, 2013, at 11:23 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 10:12:19AM +, Teske, Devin wrote: On Jul 14, 2013, at 2:30 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 14/07/2013 06:48, Teske, Devin wrote: Question: Where can I learn more about the actual format of what's in the new tarball

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-15 Thread Julian Elischer
On 7/15/13 10:12 AM, Teske, Devin wrote: On Jul 14, 2013, at 3:43 PM, Craig Rodrigues wrote: On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 10:54 PM, Teske, Devin mailto:devin.te...@fisglobal.com>> wrote: I assume that poudiere builds packages from ports. Yes. That's not how we build package repositories here

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-15 Thread Julian Elischer
On 7/15/13 6:43 AM, Craig Rodrigues wrote: On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 10:54 PM, Teske, Devin wrote: I assume that poudiere builds packages from ports. Yes. That's not how we build package repositories here (and would expect that there are many more like us). How do you build packages if

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-14 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 11:52:19PM +, Teske, Devin wrote: > On Jul 12, 2013, at 4:16 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I have just committed (r253305) a change the make pkg_install not being > > built > > and installed by default on HEAD. > > > > If you are still relying on it

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-14 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 06:51:00PM -0500, Mark Felder wrote: > On Sat, Jul 13, 2013, at 13:54, Teske, Devin wrote: > > > > > > If FTP access (or any of the other remote access methods) are going away > > for HEAD pkg access, I'll need to know so I can make the appropriate > > changes in the HEAD

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-14 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 04:52:26PM +, Teske, Devin wrote: > > On Jul 14, 2013, at 8:01 AM, Chris Rees wrote: > > > On 14 Jul 2013, at 08:29, Teske, Devin wrote: > >> > > Simple, really. > > Let's take RPM for example. The RPM package format has been ported to other > platforms. So does p

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-14 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 07:29:50AM +, Teske, Devin wrote: > > > Or you > > can maintain the old cruft for your business -- just don't expect > > anyone else to use it, or even want to. > > > > > I have no intention of making old-world packages... but I also have no > intention of using "p

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-14 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 10:12:19AM +, Teske, Devin wrote: > > On Jul 14, 2013, at 2:30 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > > On 14/07/2013 06:48, Teske, Devin wrote: > >> Question: Where can I learn more about the actual format of what's in > >> the new tarballs? This is going to be important not f

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-14 Thread Teske, Devin
On Jul 14, 2013, at 3:43 PM, Craig Rodrigues wrote: On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 10:54 PM, Teske, Devin mailto:devin.te...@fisglobal.com>> wrote: I assume that poudiere builds packages from ports. Yes. That's not how we build package repositories here (and would expect that there are many more

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-14 Thread Rainer Duffner
Am 15.07.2013 um 03:15 schrieb Adrian Chadd : > Guys, > > Devin runs a _lot_ of FreeBSD stuff at his work. Doubtlessly. It wouldn't make sense on a small scale. I assume, his system pre-dates most of the stuff nowadays filed under the "dev-ops" moniker (chef, puppet…). Probably also has (ha

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-14 Thread Adrian Chadd
Guys, Devin runs a _lot_ of FreeBSD stuff at his work. If anything we as a community should be making his life easier, not act like he's just clueless and doing it wrong. -adrian On 14 July 2013 16:24, Rainer Duffner wrote: > > Am 15.07.2013 um 00:43 schrieb Craig Rodrigues : > >> On Sat, Jul

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-14 Thread Teske, Devin
On Jul 14, 2013, at 11:50 AM, Adrian Chadd wrote: > ... I bet you could do that. I bet you could build the rpm inside a > linux jail and have the relevant uname bits overridden in the right > way. > There's an idea. -- Devin > On 14 July 2013 09:52, Teske, Devin wrote: >> >> On Jul 14, 201

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-14 Thread Rainer Duffner
Am 15.07.2013 um 00:43 schrieb Craig Rodrigues : > On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 10:54 PM, Teske, Devin > wrote: > >> >> >> I assume that poudiere builds packages from ports. >> > > Yes. > > >> >> That's not how we build package repositories here (and would expect that >> there are many more l

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-14 Thread Craig Rodrigues
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 10:54 PM, Teske, Devin wrote: > > > I assume that poudiere builds packages from ports. > Yes. > > That's not how we build package repositories here (and would expect that > there are many more like us). > How do you build packages if you are not using FreeBSD ports? D

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-14 Thread Chris Rees
On 14 Jul 2013, at 08:29, Teske, Devin wrote: > > To give you an idea as to just how helpful this is... > > Imagine the following hierarchy: > > src/pkgbase/depend/mystuff/script1 > src/pkgbase/depend/mystuff/textfile1 > src/pkgbase/depend/mystuff/sourcefile.c > src/pkgbase/depend/mystuff/Makefi

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-14 Thread Adrian Chadd
... I bet you could do that. I bet you could build the rpm inside a linux jail and have the relevant uname bits overridden in the right way. -adrian On 14 July 2013 09:52, Teske, Devin wrote: > > On Jul 14, 2013, at 8:01 AM, Chris Rees wrote: > >> On 14 Jul 2013, at 08:29, Teske, Devin wrote: >

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-14 Thread Teske, Devin
On Jul 14, 2013, at 8:01 AM, Chris Rees wrote: > On 14 Jul 2013, at 08:29, Teske, Devin wrote: >> >> To give you an idea as to just how helpful this is... >> >> Imagine the following hierarchy: >> >> src/pkgbase/depend/mystuff/script1 >> src/pkgbase/depend/mystuff/textfile1 >> src/pkgbase/depe

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-14 Thread Garrett Wollman
In article <20130714064601$3...@grapevine.csail.mit.edu>, dte...@freebsd.org writes: >> [I wrote:] >> It accesses the sqlite database in /var/db/pkg that was previously >> retrieved from the remote repository. >Now from what you explained of pkg, I'm worried that for bsdconfig: > >1. Browse packa

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-14 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 14/07/2013 11:12, Teske, Devin wrote: > Interesting. I notice that (while looking ahead to see a prefix: of > /usr/local in the +MANIFEST), the tarball itself has files that include > /usr/local in their path. Yes -- we consider the $PREFIX to be 'baked into' the package at compile time. You

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-14 Thread Garrett Wollman
In article <20130714054840$7...@grapevine.csail.mit.edu>, dte...@freebsd.org writes: >How about rquery? What protocol does that use? and what does it talk to? It accesses the sqlite database in /var/db/pkg that was previously retrieved from the remote repository. >Question: Where can I learn mor

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-14 Thread Teske, Devin
On Jul 14, 2013, at 2:30 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 14/07/2013 06:48, Teske, Devin wrote: >> Question: Where can I learn more about the actual format of what's in >> the new tarballs? This is going to be important not for bsdconfig, >> but $work (we have our own build platform; I'm going to h

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-14 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 14/07/2013 06:48, Teske, Devin wrote: > Question: Where can I learn more about the actual format of what's in > the new tarballs? This is going to be important not for bsdconfig, > but $work (we have our own build platform; I'm going to have to > rewrite it from mastering PLIST files to masterin

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-14 Thread Teske, Devin
On Jul 13, 2013, at 9:24 PM, Peter Wemm wrote: > On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Teske, Devin > wrote: > >> So yes... I'm asking... in a HEAD world, what is the "officially supported" >> method of acquisition? > > * pkgng will be configured to pull via http from project > infrastructure by

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-14 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 14/07/2013 04:18, Teske, Devin wrote: > ASIDE: For efficiency, I will actually need three things: (1) a list > of all packages (2) their descriptions and (3) their run-time dependencies. That would be the repository catalogue, which you can download by 'pkg update' (or it will happen automatic

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-14 Thread Teske, Devin
On Jul 14, 2013, at 12:06 AM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > In article <20130714064601$3...@grapevine.csail.mit.edu>, > dte...@freebsd.org writes: > >>> [I wrote:] >>> It accesses the sqlite database in /var/db/pkg that was previously >>> retrieved from the remote repository. > >> Now from what you

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-13 Thread Teske, Devin
On Jul 13, 2013, at 11:13 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: > In article <20130714054840$7...@grapevine.csail.mit.edu>, > dte...@freebsd.org writes: > >> How about rquery? What protocol does that use? and what does it talk to? > > It accesses the sqlite database in /var/db/pkg that was previously > re

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-13 Thread Teske, Devin
On Jul 13, 2013, at 8:33 PM, Craig Rodrigues wrote: On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Teske, Devin mailto:devin.te...@fisglobal.com>> wrote: Can you do an "rquery" on a local repository? (say, one that has been mounted via NFS or some other media, local or otherwise but looking like a local fi

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-13 Thread Teske, Devin
On Jul 13, 2013, at 9:24 PM, Peter Wemm wrote: > On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Teske, Devin > wrote: > >> So yes... I'm asking... in a HEAD world, what is the "officially supported" >> method of acquisition? > > This has been answered elsewhere, but to be absolutely clear: > > * 10.0 wil

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-13 Thread Peter Wemm
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 9:24 PM, Peter Wemm wrote: > Footnote... *.cc.freebsd.org are generally project operated sites. .. gah.. generally *NOT* project operated sites. They're third party / regional / local. -- Peter Wemm - pe...@wemm.org; pe...@freebsd.org; pe...@yahoo-inc.com; KI6FJV _

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-13 Thread Peter Wemm
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Teske, Devin wrote: > So yes... I'm asking... in a HEAD world, what is the "officially supported" > method of acquisition? This has been answered elsewhere, but to be absolutely clear: * 10.0 will ship with pkgng format packages. * pkgng will be configured to

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-13 Thread Craig Rodrigues
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Teske, Devin wrote: > > Can you do an "rquery" on a local repository? (say, one that has been > mounted via NFS or some other media, local or otherwise but looking like a > local filesystem once-mounted). What would be required to get a local > repository like that

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-13 Thread Teske, Devin
On Jul 13, 2013, at 4:51 PM, Mark Felder wrote: > On Sat, Jul 13, 2013, at 13:54, Teske, Devin wrote: >> >> >> If FTP access (or any of the other remote access methods) are going away >> for HEAD pkg access, I'll need to know so I can make the appropriate >> changes in the HEAD branch of bsdcon

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-13 Thread Mark Felder
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013, at 13:54, Teske, Devin wrote: > > > If FTP access (or any of the other remote access methods) are going away > for HEAD pkg access, I'll need to know so I can make the appropriate > changes in the HEAD branch of bsdconfig. > It's simpler than you think. The new pkg uses lib

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-13 Thread Teske, Devin
On Jul 13, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Kimmo Paasiala wrote: > On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Teske, Devin > wrote: >> >> On Jul 13, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Teske, Devin wrote: >> >> >> On Jul 13, 2013, at 1:07 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >> >> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 11:52:19PM +, Teske, Devin wr

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-13 Thread Kimmo Paasiala
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Teske, Devin wrote: > > On Jul 13, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Teske, Devin wrote: > > > On Jul 13, 2013, at 1:07 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 11:52:19PM +, Teske, Devin wrote: > On Jul 12, 2013, at 4:16 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > Hi,

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-13 Thread Teske, Devin
On Jul 13, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Teske, Devin wrote: On Jul 13, 2013, at 1:07 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 11:52:19PM +, Teske, Devin wrote: On Jul 12, 2013, at 4:16 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: Hi, I have just committed (r253305) a change the make pkg_install not be

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-13 Thread Teske, Devin
On Jul 13, 2013, at 1:07 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 11:52:19PM +, Teske, Devin wrote: On Jul 12, 2013, at 4:16 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: Hi, I have just committed (r253305) a change the make pkg_install not being built and installed by default on HEAD. If you

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-13 Thread Outback Dingo
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 7:59 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 06:11:11AM -0500, Mark Linimon wrote: > > fwiw, nanobsd also is still on pkg_*, but I intend to come up with > > patches for that if someone else has not already done so. > > > > mcl > > There are lots of patches

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-13 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 06:11:11AM -0500, Mark Linimon wrote: > fwiw, nanobsd also is still on pkg_*, but I intend to come up with > patches for that if someone else has not already done so. > > mcl There are lots of patches available everyone to have nanobsd using pkgng I didn't commit any, bec

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-13 Thread Mark Linimon
fwiw, nanobsd also is still on pkg_*, but I intend to come up with patches for that if someone else has not already done so. mcl ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send a

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-13 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 11:52:19PM +, Teske, Devin wrote: > On Jul 12, 2013, at 4:16 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I have just committed (r253305) a change the make pkg_install not being > > built > > and installed by default on HEAD. > > > > If you are still relying on it

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-12 Thread Teske, Devin
On Jul 12, 2013, at 4:16 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > Hi, > > I have just committed (r253305) a change the make pkg_install not being built > and installed by default on HEAD. > > If you are still relying on it, be careful and add WITH_PKGTOOLS=yes in your > src.conf(5) I think while a good

[HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-12 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
Hi, I have just committed (r253305) a change the make pkg_install not being built and installed by default on HEAD. If you are still relying on it, be careful and add WITH_PKGTOOLS=yes in your src.conf(5) regards, Bapt pgpc4PpvN64uc.pgp Description: PGP signature