Re: A different light, perhaps.

2002-09-24 Thread walt

Kris Kennaway wrote:

 ...I expect the problem will be resolved by those who have already
 said they'll resolve it ;)

I obviously missed that discussion.  I don't want to pester people
about things that they are already working on, so is there somewhere
besides the -current and cvs mailing lists I should be watching?


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A different light, perhaps.

2002-09-23 Thread Carl Schmidt

cheerleading
There seems to be many complaints of things being broken.

Maybe I'm just lucky and never cvsup when things are broken.  I have
encountered -no- errors over the past month when building world and
kernel.  So anyway to add to that I'd just like to report on today's
build so as to balance things out.  After running cvsup at about 5PM
EDT (September 23, 2002 -- using cvsup3) and running a full build I am
happy to report that everything worked fine.  No war stories to speak
of.

laptop% uname -a
FreeBSD laptop.slackerbsd.org 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Mon Sep 23 19:20:39 
EDT 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LAPTOP  i386
/cheerleading

Now if only my laptop would stop overheating whenever I run FreeBSD on
it.

That is all.
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Re: A different light, perhaps.

2002-09-23 Thread David W. Chapman Jr.

On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 10:11:56PM -0400, Carl Schmidt wrote:
 cheerleading
 There seems to be many complaints of things being broken.
 
 Maybe I'm just lucky and never cvsup when things are broken.  I have
 encountered -no- errors over the past month when building world and
 kernel.  So anyway to add to that I'd just like to report on today's
 build so as to balance things out.  After running cvsup at about 5PM
 EDT (September 23, 2002 -- using cvsup3) and running a full build I am
 happy to report that everything worked fine.  No war stories to speak
 of.

I've not had any problems either and I usually build once or twice a 
week.

 Now if only my laptop would stop overheating whenever I run FreeBSD on
 it.

Does the fan not turn on?  Are you using acpi?


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Re: A different light, perhaps.

2002-09-23 Thread Clement Laforet

Hi,

  Now if only my laptop would stop overheating whenever I run FreeBSD on
  it.
 
 Does the fan not turn on?  Are you using acpi?
 

I built a current yesterday on my laptop too, and acpi drove it crazy ;)
I noticed every 1 or 2 second(s) high interrupts load.

clem

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Re: A different light, perhaps.

2002-09-23 Thread walt

Carl Schmidt wrote:
  cheerleading

Me too :-)

  After running cvsup at about 5PM
  EDT (September 23, 2002 -- using cvsup3) and running a full build I am
  happy to report that everything worked fine...

In an attempt to understand this black magic we practice every day
could I ask you to do two quick experiments for me?

1. Type 'sort +1' at any command prompt.  What do you see?

2. cd /usr/src/lib/libncurses
 make clean  make
 What do you see?
[Warning: this may break your world on the next go-round.]

Thanks!

(Sorry if this is a duplicate post.)



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Re: A different light, perhaps.

2002-09-23 Thread Carl Schmidt

On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 08:28:06PM -0700, walt wrote:
 Carl Schmidt wrote:
  After running cvsup at about 5PM
  EDT (September 23, 2002 -- using cvsup3) and running a full build I am
  happy to report that everything worked fine...
 
 In an attempt to understand this black magic we practice every day
 could I ask you to do two quick experiments for me?

Heh...

 1. Type 'sort +1' at any command prompt.  What do you see?
 
 2. cd /usr/src/lib/libncurses
 make clean  make
 What do you see?
[Warning: this may break your world on the next go-round.]

Okay I ran into the same problems everyone else ran into and I have
a solution.

Get rid of gnu-sort from contrib and use NetBSD's sort, which was
imported five months ago but apparently never incorporated into the
build process.

Gnu-sort does not appear to understand +# arguments whereas NetBSD's
sort does.

This solved the problem for me.
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Re: A different light, perhaps.

2002-09-23 Thread Kris Kennaway

On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 08:28:06PM -0700, walt wrote:

 In an attempt to understand this black magic we practice every day
 could I ask you to do two quick experiments for me?
 
 1. Type 'sort +1' at any command prompt.  What do you see?
 
 2. cd /usr/src/lib/libncurses
 make clean  make
 What do you see?
[Warning: this may break your world on the next go-round.]

As has been already explained, it's caused by sort using a newer value
of the _POSIX2_VERSION directive during the buildworld, meaning Use
POSIX version mumble behaviour, where version mumble does not
allow the 'sort +1' syntax.

Kris



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Re: A different light, perhaps.

2002-09-23 Thread Kris Kennaway

On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 12:10:23AM -0400, Carl Schmidt wrote:

 Get rid of gnu-sort from contrib and use NetBSD's sort, which was
 imported five months ago but apparently never incorporated into the
 build process.

It was, briefly, but was backed out because it's not a sufficiently
complete replacement for everyone's liking.

 Gnu-sort does not appear to understand +# arguments whereas NetBSD's
 sort does.

It's actually a case of NetBSD's sort not disabling non-standard
behaviour when you ask it to.

Kris



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Re: A different light, perhaps.

2002-09-23 Thread Carl Schmidt

On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 12:37:24AM -0400, Carl Schmidt wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 09:34:07PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote:
  On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 12:10:23AM -0400, Carl Schmidt wrote:
[...]
 Right, okay.  But NetBSD's sort actually works.

I should rephrase this ... NetBSD's sort works with the current world
setup.
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Re: A different light, perhaps.

2002-09-23 Thread Kris Kennaway

On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 12:39:27AM -0400, Carl Schmidt wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 12:37:24AM -0400, Carl Schmidt wrote:
  On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 09:34:07PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote:
   On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 12:10:23AM -0400, Carl Schmidt wrote:
 [...]
  Right, okay.  But NetBSD's sort actually works.
 
 I should rephrase this ... NetBSD's sort works with the current world
 setup.

Yes, I expect the problem will be resolved by those who have already
said they'll resolve it ;)

Kris



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Re: A different light, perhaps.

2002-09-23 Thread Carl Schmidt

On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 09:43:59PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote:
 Yes, I expect the problem will be resolved by those who have already
 said they'll resolve it ;)

Okay good.  I obviously missed a lot of the discussion on this.
While we're at it someone should close PR 43317 since I am a fucking
idiot and don't know what is going on.  Bleh.
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