Re: Discussion of guidelines for additional version controlmechanisms (fwd)

2002-02-27 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] George V. Neville-Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : The problem here is process. The FreeBSD project now has more than : 12 core members and more than 12 committers. With any number larger : than 12 it is VERY HARD to reach consensus on anything.

Re: Discussion of guidelines for additional version controlmechanisms (fwd)

2002-02-27 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] George V. Neville-Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : There are only only 8 core team members, unless you mean something : different by core here than [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : I guess I was going based on the meeting I attended back at BSD Con. The last

Re: Discussion of guidelines for additional version controlmechanisms (fwd)

2002-02-27 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] George V. Neville-Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : So, how do we get our attitudes adjusted before hitting a wall, : as many companies I've worked for did? It comes back to agreeing : on a process by which we work. We have one now, it may not all : be

Re: Discussion of guidelines for additional version controlmechanisms (fwd)

2002-02-27 Thread George V. Neville-Neil
Hi Folks, I've put up the following TWiki page: http://www.neville-neil.com/twiki/bin/view/Freebsd/DevelopmentProcess as a scribbling area for a possible set of rules/practices that we can use to address the issues raised in this discussion. For those not familiar with TWiki who want

Re: Discussion of guidelines for additional version controlmechanisms (fwd)

2002-02-26 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 4:53 PM -0500 2/26/02, Robert Watson wrote: The purpose of this message is to initiate a serious discussion of what guidelines might be put in place to help facilitate the use of additional version control mechanisms [...]. I've mixed in some suggested things to think about as possible

Re: Discussion of guidelines for additional version controlmechanisms (fwd)

2002-02-26 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 6:55 PM -0800 2/26/02, Julian Elischer wrote: (1) The timeout begins when contention occurs, of the lock has been declared. This means that if you seriously intend to do some work, you can say I'm going to do the work, but you don't risk losing the lock until someone

Re: Discussion of guidelines for additional version controlmechanisms (fwd)

2002-02-26 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: p05101401b8a1ee73f02d@[128.113.24.47] Garance A Drosihn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : I think the main issue here is how long the real repository can be : locked while waiting for some change to show up. If work can : keep going into the main repository, then what does

Re: Discussion of guidelines for additional version controlmechanisms (fwd)

2002-02-26 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Robert Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : I meant lock in the sense of expecting no one to make any major : changes in the same area of code. I seem to remember you asking for : such a lock (to use the term loosely) in July, and the KSE work going :