Re: fpsetmask on sparc64

2003-01-12 Thread Mark Linimon
technical content behind, can this be taken to -chat, offline email, or, better yet, /dev/null? Thank you. Mark Linimon To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message

Re: Fixing -pthreads (Re: ports and -current)

2003-09-21 Thread Mark Linimon
IMHO if the ports tree is unfrozen for the -pthreads fixes, the 4.9 release schedule will drift days if not weeks. While it's not as apparent as the kernel build issues, there are significant QA issues that go into the ports system. That's why the freeze is in place, to allow the QA process to

Re: Fixing -pthreads (Re: ports and -current)

2003-09-21 Thread Mark Linimon
I don't think committing fixes for -current breakages should cause problems for 4.9-RELEASE (especially with the caveat that they be compile tested on -stable). It takes several days to do the compile QA. That's assuming that no actual users are allowed to have time to test the changes before

Re: GDB - do we dare?

2003-07-13 Thread Mark Linimon
FSF GDB releases use a libbfd that's basically a snapshot taken at the point where the release branch was cut. Hmm, seems like a motivation for a libbfd port that tracks the snapshot, for this very reason. mcl ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

State of the Union Report (backout request department)

2003-01-31 Thread Mark Linimon
this so that the whole FreeBSD project can move forward and ideas can rise and fall on their technical merits, because frankly that's where the strength of FreeBSD lies -- in its technical merits. Mark Linimon To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body

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2003-03-05 Thread Mark Linimon
On the other hand, there's no compelling reason to dike it out, if it can be made to work. work == not just compiled, but QAed against known-working implementations and correctly documented. Have fun. Looking forward to the patches and logs. mcl To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL

Re: Removal of netns - politically correct version

2003-03-04 Thread Mark Linimon
On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Terry Lambert wrote: Tell you what, I'll fix these and post a patch. Will that make you guys happy? Yes, as will anything else that cuts down on the metadiscussions and increases the quality of the codebase. mcl To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: Anyone working on fsck?

2003-03-17 Thread Mark Linimon
for the delete key before sending this post. Mark Linimon To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message

Re: GCC withdraw

2013-09-01 Thread Mark Linimon
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 10:41:18AM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: So my take away from this is that you have no plans to support any platform that doesn't support clang as you just expect ia64 and sparc64 to die and not be present in 11.0. That may be the best path, but I've certainly not seen

Re: New installation script

2011-08-08 Thread Mark Linimon
On Sat, Aug 06, 2011 at 01:18:02PM -0400, Garrett Wollman wrote: I initially chose traditional Unix workstation, which was unusable. (Never did find the control or escape key, which made vi particularly difficult to use.) It should probably be labeled old-fart Unix user which would have

Re: [head tinderbox] failure on powerpc/powerpc

2011-08-08 Thread Mark Linimon
On Mon, Aug 08, 2011 at 06:53:40PM -0400, Super Bisquit wrote: Why does Tinderbox need cross tools? Is the build not native? If so, then the rationale would be to build on the architecture and not use cross compilation. - There are no powerpc machines currently online at *.FreeBSD.org. -

Re: http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html

2011-08-30 Thread Mark Linimon
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 09:45:09PM +0800, Paul Ambrose wrote: 3 There is a missing feature list about DTrace, but no schedule list about when to fix it. We just need someone who wants to spend a lot of time working on it. Without that, there is no point in putting up a schedule. mcl

Re: cvsup broken on amd64?

2011-09-15 Thread Mark Linimon
Usually rather quite later than sooner. A perfect opportunity for src committers to dive in and make a difference :-) mcl ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any

Re: 9.0 beta2 the new bsdinstaller

2011-09-16 Thread Mark Linimon
Wiki, gnats, scrap of paper on someones desk, etc? I've put a link to the few existing PRs in GNATS onto the wiki page. mcl ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any

Re: make: don't know how to make add-plist-buildinfo. Stop

2012-09-07 Thread Mark Linimon
It was a temporary disruption that I caused. It should be fixed now. mcl ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-11 Thread Mark Linimon
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 10:07:04AM +0100, David Chisnall wrote: There is some logic in the clang driver already for knowing when it is invoked as gcc. I'd be quite tempted to make gcc a symlink to clang and make clang default to gnu89 when invoked in that way. And how then does a port say I

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-12 Thread Mark Linimon
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:27:50AM +0200, Lars Engels wrote: At the moment the ports maintainers don't give much about if their ports build with CLANG or not because they're not forced to. I think this is a mis-representation. Adding the requirement your ports must work on clang is adding an

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-12 Thread Mark Linimon
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 03:03:43PM +0200, Lars Engels wrote: two of the ports I maintain don't build with CLANG, yet. I just checked that on the wiki page [1]. To repeat myself, the ports I've listed on that page are the big problems. People need to look at the errorlogs URLs up at the top to

Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th

2012-09-13 Thread Mark Linimon
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 08:21:31AM +0200, Pietro Cerutti wrote: On 2012-Sep-11, 23:29, Doug Barton wrote: What we need to do is what I and others have been asking to do for years. We need to designate a modern version of gcc (no less than 4.6) as the official default ports compiler, and

[HEADSUP] FYI: patch to ports that do not build with clang has been committed

2012-10-09 Thread Mark Linimon
The commit mail hasn't gone through yet, so I guess I need to post this first and reference the commit mail later. Sometime in the near future, the default CC on -current will be switched to clang. The patch I have committed is a workaround -- an interim measure -- to get ready for this

Re: [HEADSUP] FYI: patch to ports that do not build with clang has been committed

2012-10-10 Thread Mark Linimon
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 05:11:07PM +0200, Roman Divacky wrote: Can we arrange exp builds with FORCE_BASE_CC_FOR_TESTING=clang that will report all ports with USE_GCC=* but build with clang? Sure. That was kind of the intention. mcl ___

Re: November 5th is Clang-Day

2012-11-02 Thread Mark Linimon
On Thu, Nov 01, 2012 at 10:31:26PM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Jan Beich jbe...@tormail.org wrote: emulators/wine doesn't work with lib32 built by clang, probably due to wine bugs. All of these items should be catalogued in a common place, like the wiki.

Re: -Current built with clang as default + ports

2012-11-21 Thread Mark Linimon
This is all good advice. Note, however: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:59:49AM +0100, Dimitry Andric wrote: Of special interest are the results from the build cluster, where you can get a quick overview of which ports don't build, and how many other ports depend on them. Unfortunately those web

Re: svn commit: r244865 - in head: . lib lib/libdisk share/mk

2012-12-30 Thread Mark Linimon
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 06:57:45PM -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote: This is what exp- runs are for (portmgr can help with this). OTOH -exp runs are currently off the air. mcl ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Problem with pkg_add

2011-12-09 Thread Mark Linimon
On Fri, Dec 09, 2011 at 09:16:13AM -0500, Derek Tattersall wrote: After installing 9.0-RC2 or RC3, pkg_add -r fails in trying to access ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/package-9-current as the terminal directory is acually packages-9-stable. It is a one line change in the source

Re: amd64 packages

2011-12-12 Thread Mark Linimon
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 10:46:08PM +0400, siur wrote: why there is still no packages for 10-current? Did I miss something? We're trying to debug multiple package building problems, and currently using i386-10 for that. Until we get farther along with that process, we aren't doing amd64-10 yet.

status of ports and clang

2011-12-20 Thread Mark Linimon
I have recently been able to get the new build cluster on pointyhat-west set up to run full builds of ports with clang on amd64-9. I have documented the latest results on the wiki: http://wiki.freebsd.org/PortsAndClang If you are interested in working on ports being built via clang, this is

FreeBSD funding [was: Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1] Server

2011-12-23 Thread Mark Linimon
I have slightly reordered your email in my reply, in order to put the most important item last. On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:01:33PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: I'm still with the system, although I desperately need scientific grade compilers or GPGPU support. Your use-case, while valid, is

Re: Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool

2011-12-29 Thread Mark Linimon
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 10:23:58AM -0800, Pedro Giffuni wrote: How am I supposed to install prebuilt packages (and the myriad of dependencies) from now on? I strongly recommend using portmaster. The manpage is very dense but to start with, use something like the following (I'm just picking one

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-30 Thread Mark Linimon
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 04:04:31PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: There maybe serious reasons having the Linuxulator, i do not know. But if not, why spending rare developer resources on that? This is a classical misunderstanding of the FreeBSD development model. There is no staff standing around

Re: stable/9 still looking for packages at 9-current

2012-01-08 Thread Mark Linimon
On Sun, Jan 08, 2012 at 07:26:47PM -0500, Eitan Adler wrote: On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Arnaud Lacombe lacom...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Peter fb...@peterk.org wrote: Hello,  Installed 9-RELEASE amd64, [...] Has 9.0 been released ? 9.0 will, and only

Re: stable/9 still looking for packages at 9-current

2012-01-09 Thread Mark Linimon
On 9. Jan 2012, at 01:04 , Arnaud Lacombe wrote: So you are saying that FreeBSD is currently providing on ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub images tagged as being 9.0 RELEASE (with checksum provided), in a `releases' directory, which are not actually release images per-se ? Excellent! You've shown

Re: stable/9 still looking for packages at 9-current

2012-01-09 Thread Mark Linimon
On 9 January 2012 18:16, Arnaud Lacombe lacom...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent!  You've shown the ability to understand flat, declarative, sentences that have no qualifying phrases. FWIW, this was more a sarcastic sentence I am being sarcastic because I am frustrated. I am frustrated because I

Re: Packages for Current ( 10.0 )

2012-02-16 Thread Mark Linimon
The portmgr team has not yet started regular package builds for -current. We are working on re-allocating some resources to be able to do so. Note, however, that with -current being an early branch of a new major version, that the src that we are building against is changing rapidly. My personal

Re: Packages for Current ( 10.0 )

2012-02-18 Thread Mark Linimon
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:04:45AM -0500, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: I would be very happy I can contribute anything to development of FreeBSD . We are always happy to have help :-) If there appears an agenda of testing problems and explicit instructions how to apply tests , me and other

Re: /sys/conf/kmod.mk, line 111: Malformed conditional (${MK_CLANG_IS_CC}

2012-04-17 Thread Mark Linimon
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:49:44AM +0200, Dimitry Andric wrote: It would hopefully error out. If you look in /usr/share/mk/bsd.kmod.mk, you will see this at the bottom: .if !defined(SYSDIR) || !exists(${SYSDIR}/kern/) || \ !exists(${SYSDIR}/conf/kmod.mk) .error Unable to locate

Re: HEADSUP: /etc/malloc.conf format change

2012-04-25 Thread Mark Linimon
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 09:37:36PM -0700, Tim Kientzle wrote: The Ports maintainers will run experimental ports builds on the port build clusters to help verify potentially disruptive changes like this before they are committed. Well, actually, portmgr@. Send a PR with [exp-run] in the

Re: FYI clang fails to build ports argp-standalone

2012-05-14 Thread Mark Linimon
a) the best place is freebsd-ports@ b) we do periodic builds of ports with clang as default but in general clang is not ready to be the default compiler yet. Please see http://wiki.freebsd.org/PortsAndClang . mcl ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org

Re: UFS+J panics on HEAD

2012-05-23 Thread Mark Linimon
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:58:48PM +0100, Steven Hartland wrote: While it might be a shame to see FFS go by the wayside are there any big reasons why you would rather stick with FFS instead of moving to ZFS with all the benefits that brings? - ZFS eats bytes for breakfast. It is completely

Re: Use of C99 extra long double math functions after r236148

2012-05-30 Thread Mark Linimon
Perhaps a more general name might be appropriate so as to include fixed-point problems? math-libs@? numerics@? I'm sure someone will come up with a better name. mcl ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-04 Thread Mark Linimon
One doesn't have to live at the bleeding edge with ports if one doesn't want to even when compiling. One can live a day, a week, a month behind the bleeding edge and allow other to hit problems and report them. To be pedantic, there's a lot of difference between reporting problems, and

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-05 Thread Mark Linimon
On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 12:18:33PM +0700, Erich wrote: I did not know this. Do you have a link for this? I never read about it. The EOL announcements have them. I don't think the release announcements do, however. mcl ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-05 Thread Mark Linimon
On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 01:00:45PM +0700, Erich wrote: All of these, with the exception of HEAD (which is always a valid tag), only apply to the src/ tree. The ports/, doc/, and www/ trees are not branched. If you create a branch, you must create a tag for that branch. However, you can create

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-05 Thread Mark Linimon
On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 03:23:01PM +0700, Erich wrote: But is this true for apache only or for the whole ports tree? Entire tree. mcl ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To

Re: Cross-architecture package installs

2013-02-05 Thread Mark Linimon
On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 10:34:18PM -0800, Tim Kientzle wrote: I'm working on tools to build ARM system images. Usually, these tools run on x86, which creates a problem for packages. fwiw, before the intrusion 3 months ago, I had been able to build native ARM packages with a loaned system.

Re: CLANG and -fstack-protector

2013-02-10 Thread Mark Linimon
On Thu, Feb 07, 2013 at 11:52:42PM +0100, Jeremie Le Hen wrote: You can do this, it will work for most of the ports but some ports do not honor CFLAGS. Ports that don't honor CFLAGS are broken ports. Having said that, the last time I ran a script that looked for them (and other things like

Re: gccmakedep fix - 20130619

2013-06-18 Thread Mark Linimon
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 01:51:42AM +0200, Oliver Pinter wrote: 3) Is not it better to submit via PR (GNATS) rather than a mailing list? That's what PRs are for... Mail are faster than PR-s. If we all go down that route, it means less and less people will try to read all the traffic on

Re: [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by default

2013-07-13 Thread Mark Linimon
fwiw, nanobsd also is still on pkg_*, but I intend to come up with patches for that if someone else has not already done so. mcl ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

2014-02-24 Thread Mark Linimon
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 09:40:26AM -0600, Bryan Drewery wrote: IMHO base should be the very minimalistic needs to get a server online, and should be secure and simple by default. ... Anything not meeting the bare-bones criteria can be installed with 'pkg install' or ports. +1 (OTOH I am not

Re: PR for pf in kernel

2014-03-02 Thread Mark Linimon
On Sun, Mar 02, 2014 at 12:39:07AM +0200, Michael Pounov wrote: Hi, I wrote this mail because on web page Submit Bug-report missing severity for PR and priority options. Those two fields have become meaningless due to everyone overusing them. Changing them will not have much effect. mcl

Re: login.conf -- UTF-8

2014-04-02 Thread Mark Linimon
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 03:56:35PM -0700, Sean Bruno wrote: I have been informed by folks that this change I suggest would help in the case of ports having to declare UTF-8 support explicitly or something. Clearly ports that need to do this are broken -- but this very much an edge-case of

Re: vt text cursor invisible in reverse video

2014-04-02 Thread Mark Linimon
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 01:01:11PM +0200, Claude Buisson wrote: After 19 years of FreeBSD use and not being part of any chapel/coterie/mafia I don't keep much illusion about the outcome.. I'm sorry that you feel that way. Rest assured that a large number of those of us that work on FreeBSD do

Re: OpenSSL vs. LibreSSL (OpenBSD)

2014-04-24 Thread Mark Linimon
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 03:05:40PM -0700, Justin Hibbits wrote: We need to discuss the use of comic sans font across our web properties first. -Alfred You, sir, win 2 internets. - Justin seconded. ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing

Re: Request to mailing list freebsd-security rejected

2011-03-21 Thread Mark Linimon
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 08:17:23AM -0400, Etienne Robillard wrote: Google cognitive dissonance for more info... Google plonk for more info. mcl ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To

Re: Building FreeBSD 9.0-CUR/amd64 with CLANG fails

2011-05-05 Thread Mark Linimon
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 09:17:23AM +0200, O. Hartmann wrote: I guess the ports-tree isn't mature for clang. That's correct. mcl ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send

Re: gcc-4.5 and 4.6 needs to be recompiled due to /usr/src/UPDATE: 20110608:

2011-06-09 Thread Mark Linimon
Things that change the way the base system behaves w/rt ports need version bumps. mcl ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to

Re: HEADS UP: /bin and /sbin are now dynamically linked

2003-11-22 Thread Mark Linimon
Is this where we start swapping stories about when I was a young sysadmin, we didn't need no stinkin vi. We used ed and liked it!. :-) No, this is where we, out of respect for the mbox size of our fellow readers of -current, take this thread to -chat. Please. mcl

Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues

2003-11-29 Thread Mark Linimon
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: Do you actually review ports Makefiles? You _are_ kidding here, right? Yes, the ports team does read over the ports Makefile. Yes, the bento cluster attempts to find all the problems that can be found by automated processes. Yes, my own code

Re: mail archive on freebsd.org

2010-02-23 Thread Mark Linimon
We were in the middle of a hardware upgrade. Things should be restored now. mcl ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to

Re: propose: all arch move into a separate dir

2010-03-04 Thread Mark Linimon
There are two chief problems with a large-scale reorg of our src tree: - There are many companies who use FreeBSD as part of their business. In the case of ISPs or companies who use FreeBSD as a base of their products, this would make it much harder for them to synchronize their local

Re: propose: all arch move into a separate dir

2010-03-05 Thread Mark Linimon
On 5 Mar 2010, at 09:56, Alex Keda wrote: thus, it is not 'Free', this managed by 'consumers like Isilon, NetApp, Juniper, and many others'? It isn't managed by them whatsoever. FreeBSD is a cooperative anarchy, driven by working code and rough consensus. That's what controls the checkins.

Re: HEADS UP: COMPAT_IA32 renamed COMPAT_FREEBSD32

2010-03-12 Thread Mark Linimon
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 09:22:55AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: Yes it is. Where was it discussed first? I do not see anything in my freebsd-arch or freebsd-current archive; or any other FreeBSD list. http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?4B971CA3.9090301 crossposted on amd64@, ia64@,

Re: Complete ports thaw

2010-03-23 Thread Mark Linimon
It probably bears repeating that the tree will be unstable for the next few days while a number of large commits hit the tree. These were held off during the release process to make life easier in case portmgr had to do tag-slips. Image processing libraries, xorg, kde, and gnome are scheduled to

Re: HEADSUP: zlib updated [svn commit: r205471 - in head: . lib/libz lib/libz/contrib lib/libz/doc sys/sys]

2010-04-02 Thread Mark Linimon
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 03:30:47PM +0200, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: And yes, I *will* keep harping on this until people Get It. You're harping at the wrong people. Complain to the application authors, not to the poor slobs trying to maintain the ports collection. There's a lot of crap code

Re: ports and PBIs

2010-04-10 Thread Mark Linimon
not to be a troll but ... ... for those that want the ease-of-use of PBIs, why not just use PC-BSD in the first place? They seem to have their own QA process in place in terms of keeping the various large applications at a sane level. Kernel development could (just like it is on the Macs) be

Re: [TESTING]: ClangBSD branch needs testing before the import to HEAD

2010-06-03 Thread Mark Linimon
I'm just catching up with this thread, so apologies if this has already been pointed out elsewhere. One of the things that has been discussed w/rt compilers for a while (not just at the devsummit) was bending our minds around separating the concept of base system compiler from default ports

Re: [TESTING]: ClangBSD branch needs testing before the import to HEAD

2010-06-03 Thread Mark Linimon
On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 12:18:41PM +0200, Alban Hertroys wrote: Compiler bugs in gcc are probably just as hard to find as compiler bugs in clang There are two types of compiler bug: a) bug that produces bad code; b) bug that makes the compiler crash. The latter number seems kind of low right

Re: [TESTING]: ClangBSD branch needs testing before the import to HEAD

2010-06-03 Thread Mark Linimon
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 01:22:05PM +0100, Bruce Cran wrote: From previous messages I don't think sparc64 is currently supported by clang very well, if at all, so I think we'll still need gcc in the base system for some time. I'll put on my tier-2 package builder hat for a moment. IMHO it

Re: [TESTING]: ClangBSD branch needs testing before the import to HEAD

2010-06-04 Thread Mark Linimon
On Fri, Jun 04, 2010 at 08:13:55AM +, b. f. wrote: How did you obtain gcc4-errors? bzgrep -q See URL:http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html for instructions. Part of ports/Tools/portbuild/scripts/processonelog . mcl ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing

Re: RFC: etcupdate tool in base?

2010-06-10 Thread Mark Linimon
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 05:28:01PM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: code in the base tree gets fixed by people making sweeping changes but things from ports often do not. By 'sweeping changes', I take it you mean to src? And if by 'things from ports', I take you mean that ports break on -current

Re: ZFS will gone,FreeBSD will import btrfs?

2010-08-16 Thread Mark Linimon
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:21:07PM +0800, lhmwzy wrote: opensolaris is gone It appears there will be a fork, but that's not particularly crucial to FreeBSD. ZFS also gone. We're not going to drop ZFS because Oracle's plans are unclear. It remains to be seen how much other community support

Re: utmpx

2010-11-05 Thread Mark Linimon
On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 01:09:06PM +0100, Ed Schouten wrote: It should be noted that that list is a bit pessimistic, since various ports have been fixed in the mean time. Updates welcomed :-) mcl ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Build failed in Jenkins: Build-UFS-image #599

2014-12-20 Thread Mark Linimon
On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 01:43:50PM -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote: One way to deal with this issue is to svn up a source tree, then rsync rsync? ITYM zfs clone :-) mcl ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: HP 2B19WM PCI-E SD Reader

2015-02-04 Thread Mark Linimon
On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 08:21:44AM -0800, Adrian Chadd wrote: ... god, people go through a lot of work to not have to write a wifi driver. :) we're just concerned about you... ...r sanity. mcl ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Time to be real

2015-03-23 Thread Mark Linimon
Thank you for your troll. For your convenience, we will do our best not to reply to you any further, to waste either your time, or valuable electrons. mcl ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8)

2016-04-19 Thread Mark Linimon
On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 05:37:00AM +0300, dan_partelly wrote: > Year after year you hear about new GsoC projects, then nothing. I find > it hard to believe that none of those actually produced any useful code. The goal of GSoC is to introduce new people to FreeBSD more than it is to produce

Re: FreeBSD-11.0-BETA1-amd64-disc1.iso is too big for my 700MB CD-r

2016-07-12 Thread Mark Linimon
On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 04:09:10PM +0930, Shane Ambler wrote: > +1 on dropping CD images. I have 24U of things that don't have DVD players, including some tier-2 machines for which no upgrade is available. mcl ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing

Re: HEADSUP: after r313194 on freebsd-current, lang/gcc ports require a rebuild

2017-02-28 Thread Mark Linimon
On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 11:24:27PM +0100, Ed Schouten wrote: > 2017-02-28 21:00 GMT+01:00 Konstantin Belousov : > > Ideally, ports should stop shipping mangled system includes, or even better, > > gcc stop doing fixincludes. > > Amen. Please let me know the magic wand you

Re: [RFC] remove GNU rcs from FreeBSD 12

2016-11-06 Thread Mark Linimon
On Sun, Nov 06, 2016 at 12:09:30PM +0100, Eivind Nicolay Evensen wrote: > I also thought that perl was a good example of another piece of software > that once was provided and no longer is. Yes, that's true, but somewhat different. perl was removed because keeping it became incompatible with the

Re: [RFC] remove GNU rcs from FreeBSD 12

2016-11-05 Thread Mark Linimon
On Thu, Nov 03, 2016 at 10:17:23AM +0800, Julian Elischer wrote: > why should we remove it? IIUC the plan for several years has been to remove all GPLed software from base. But in any case the conversation is moot. It was removed from head on 20161015 by bapt:

Re: xpt related hang on sparc64

2017-01-14 Thread Mark Linimon
On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 11:23:13PM -0700, Alan Somers wrote: > That error message can mean many different things. You need to boot > in verbose mode to get a better idea. As a test I created a netbootable image from -current the other day. All I had available to test was an X1 which booted fine.

Re: lang/gcc6-aux for head beyond __nonnull related issues: vm_ooffset_t and vm_pindex_t related changes (and more)

2017-04-15 Thread Mark Linimon
On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 08:27:29PM -0700, Mark Millard wrote: > I've seen material quoted from a exp-run that reported > that about 54(?) ports were then blocked by lang/gcc6-aux > not building. Although the first is an older run (the last complete run IIUC), there were 50 and 51 respectively as

Re: How many versions of clang/llvm are currently required to maintain a system

2017-03-08 Thread Mark Linimon
On Mon, Mar 06, 2017 at 03:00:23PM +, r...@gid.co.uk wrote: > Let me rephrase that: the link http://purelang.bitbucket.org/ > quoted on https://wiki.freebsd.org/ObsoleteLLVMVersions doesn’t work, That's the URL in lang/pure/Makefile. > should be https://bitbucket.org/purelang/ Hmm. I

Re: How many versions of clang/llvm are currently required to maintain a system

2017-03-05 Thread Mark Linimon
Please see https://wiki.freebsd.org/ObsoleteLLVMVersions . mcl ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

ports recently marked broken on -current

2017-05-23 Thread Mark Linimon
So during my pass over recent powerpc64 package errorlogs, I found a few ports that were actually broken across all archs on -current, and made those commits. I may not have enough cycles to investigate all these down by myself, so I'm asking for help. Does anyone recognize any of these failure

orangepi [was: what happened to src/sys/boot?]

2017-12-03 Thread Mark Linimon
On Sun, Dec 03, 2017 at 08:55:20PM +0200, Daniel Braniss wrote: > ok, the image created now boots on both orangepi-one and nanopi-neo, > but without ethernet! So w/rt orangepi-one testing I think I'm now at parity with your build -- with whatever bits I had a week ago. e.g. I also do not detect

Re: valloric YCM [header definitions]

2017-12-05 Thread Mark Linimon
On Wed, Dec 06, 2017 at 02:18:29AM +0800, blubee blubeeme wrote: > I'm looking for where the u_int, u_long headers are defined? Although it seems to be out-of-date, for something fundamental like this you should be able to use the FXR instance: http://fxr.watson.org/fxr/search mcl

Re: orangepi [was: what happened to src/sys/boot?]

2017-12-03 Thread Mark Linimon
On Sun, Dec 03, 2017 at 09:33:09PM +0100, Milan Obuch wrote: > Please see thread on freebsd-arm mailing list starting with my message > titled 'Allwinner H3/H2+ dts question - regression?' Ah, ok. My brain did not associate "H3/H2+" with "Orange Pi" so I simply skipped it. In any case I can now

Re: [RFC] Deprecation and removal of the drm2 driver

2018-05-19 Thread Mark Linimon
On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 04:19:21PM -0400, Daniel Eischen wrote: > I can easily imagine an embedded x86 kiosk type appliance. We need to evaluate the tradeoff of "what we can imagine someone will do with FreeBSD" vs. "what are people using with FreeBSD right now." mcl

Re: swapping is completely broken in -CURRENT r334649?

2018-06-15 Thread Mark Linimon
On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 11:14:40AM +0200, Mikaël Urankar wrote: > Last time I tried (2 weeks ago) qemu-ppc64-static was broken, not sure the > situation has evolved since that. I've been told by more than one person that it works, but the 2? 3? times I've tried it it just hung. I have real

Re: hwpmc - wither ppro and p4

2018-05-31 Thread Mark Linimon
On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 12:58:23PM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote: > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 11:08:18AM -0700, Matthew Macy wrote: > > > > Based on the i386 discussion I recognize that there's a great deal of > > sentimental attachment to older hardware. However, there's very few > >

Re: PR backlog (was: [RFC] Deprecation and removal of the drm2 driver)

2018-05-31 Thread Mark Linimon
Straying off-topic from the Subject line ... On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 11:34:18AM -0400, Joe Maloney wrote: > Technically since I was using PC-BSD, and was a committer for that > project I had no real dire need to reach out to FreeBSD about the > [wireless driver issue]. I was simply trying to

Re: PR backlog (was: [RFC] Deprecation and removal of the drm2 driver)

2018-06-01 Thread Mark Linimon
On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 09:04:25PM -0700, K. Macy wrote: > This is where culling older bug reports comes in. Well, even with doing that, the sheer number really doesn't help the S/N that much. It may make someone a bit neurotic like me feel a bit better, but that's all. > However, when I've

Re: PR backlog (was: [RFC] Deprecation and removal of the drm2 driver)

2018-06-01 Thread Mark Linimon
On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 10:25:10PM -0500, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: > because the incentives are rigged. A bad outside contribution brought > into ports more often yields "hey, you should have noticed" to the > committer and more opprobrium back to the submitter. I believe you're missing two

Re: how to make ports not install xorg or dependencies

2018-08-01 Thread Mark Linimon
On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 01:13:31PM +0200, Miroslav Lachman wrote: > As Guido Falsi already said it is not guaranteed that you will not > have ports with some X libs, because some ports does not have option > to disable X11 dependencies. IMHO those ports have bugs. mcl

Re: drm / drm2 removal in 12

2018-08-24 Thread Mark Linimon
On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 07:07:24AM +0800, blubee blubeeme wrote: > Are these guys insane and please avoid the nonsense about you're doing this > in your spare time. Let us know how whatever OS you wind up using instead works for you. I suggest you look for one that will put up with your constant

Re: drm / drm2 removal in 12

2018-08-25 Thread Mark Linimon
On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 07:22:06PM -0700, Randy Bush wrote: > plonk Indeed. I encourage everyone else to do the same. I'm far too old for proof-by-repetition. mcl ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: [PATCH] Recent libm additions

2018-07-15 Thread Mark Linimon
On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 01:09:41PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > I'm not saying that he has a lock. I'm saying he's are domain expert > and many mistakes can be avoided by talking to him. fwiw, substantially all the work done since at least 2013 is from kargl. (I am eliding the licensing, Makefile,

Re: Clang-6 and GNUisms.

2018-03-11 Thread Mark Linimon
The problem is even worse on armv6/armv7/aarch64, and much worse on powerpc64/sparc64, which still have gcc in base. I have not been saving up the emails where ports committers have been fixing various failure modes. I hesitate to start making harmless- seeming patches myself for fear of my