Re: Native JDK with libthr/libkse
On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Sheldon Hearn wrote: On (2003/06/01 23:53), Narvi wrote: The absence of credible Java support in FreeBSD has lost us significant penetration in the past, and it would be disastrous if the perceptions of the past shaped the future. credible rather sounds like 'comes on the installation cd, doesn't have significantly more bugs than linux/solaris/xxx version' 8-( And I think we'll get there. I would really hope so, its increasingly a barrier. I'm currently doing some Java development on a FreeBSD-CURRENT workstation using a native jdk14. It's good enough for testing components in a J2EE application server (JBoss), and performance is comparable to that seen on an equivalent Windows workstation. java is not all just j2ee, though its an increasingly important niche. The developer side is probably in the short term more important than the number of servers deployed using it. Would I use FreeBSD as a production J2EE server reliant on 1.4.1? No. But the time is coming, so don't write FreeBSD off just yet. oh, i'm not writing off freebsd, its just not as ready in this regard as competition. Running production j2ee servers is a level above having a useful / credible java story - it would probably be something you'd do on 5.3 with a good jdk. Ciao, Sheldon. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Native JDK with libthr/libkse
On Sun, 1 Jun 2003, Sheldon Hearn wrote: On (2003/06/01 00:50), Daniel Eischen wrote: I just built jdk13 a couple of days ago. No problem whatsoever. You guys must have rotten karma or something. Did you already have a native JDK installed? I built the native 1.4.1 JDK two weeks ago, first without the native JDK for bootstrapping, and then with the native JDK. Both worked without a hitch. If you're having problems with the build, your input would be appreciated on freebsd-java. The absence of credible Java support in FreeBSD has lost us significant penetration in the past, and it would be disastrous if the perceptions of the past shaped the future. credible rather sounds like 'comes on the installation cd, doesn't have significantly more bugs than linux/solaris/xxx version' 8-( FreeBSD now has some seriously committed Java people working hard on the port, and it'd be a shame if they didn't get to hear about the problem you've encountered. Ciao, Sheldon. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Native JDK with libthr/libkse
On Sunday 01 June 2003 02:03, Christopher Johnson wrote: On Sat, 31 May 2003, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Daniel Eischen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What are the above error messages? Sorry, I've never been able to build native java for FreeBSD. # cd /usr/ports/java/jdk13 # make install clean DES I disagree. I recently built jdk13 on Friday and it died on me, complaining about needing npapi.h. The build instructions did mention downloading the Sun SDK source and eyesbeyond patchset, but did not mention the Qt Netscape Plugin Extension. Okay, the problem here is (probably) that you have Qt 3.1.2 installed, which clobbers a couple of headers that it shouldn't, one of which is the npapi.h one. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is currently working on some patches to the qt31 port to fix this. In the meantime, your fix should be good enough -- Andy Fawcett | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] In an open world without walls and fences, | [EMAIL PROTECTED] we wouldn't need Windows and Gates. -- anon | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Native JDK with libthr/libkse
On (2003/06/01 23:53), Narvi wrote: The absence of credible Java support in FreeBSD has lost us significant penetration in the past, and it would be disastrous if the perceptions of the past shaped the future. credible rather sounds like 'comes on the installation cd, doesn't have significantly more bugs than linux/solaris/xxx version' 8-( And I think we'll get there. I'm currently doing some Java development on a FreeBSD-CURRENT workstation using a native jdk14. It's good enough for testing components in a J2EE application server (JBoss), and performance is comparable to that seen on an equivalent Windows workstation. Would I use FreeBSD as a production J2EE server reliant on 1.4.1? No. But the time is coming, so don't write FreeBSD off just yet. Ciao, Sheldon. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Native JDK with libthr/libkse
On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Sheldon Hearn wrote: On (2003/06/01 23:53), Narvi wrote: The absence of credible Java support in FreeBSD has lost us significant penetration in the past, and it would be disastrous if the perceptions of the past shaped the future. credible rather sounds like 'comes on the installation cd, doesn't have significantly more bugs than linux/solaris/xxx version' 8-( And I think we'll get there. And I encourage the java developers to let us threads guys know what they're having problems with. It has been stated that jdk is not guaranteed to work with anything but libc_r, so contact us over at [EMAIL PROTECTED] We want to see a fast and stable jdk as much as anyone else does. -- Dan Eischen ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Native JDK with libthr/libkse
On Sat, 31 May 2003, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Daniel Eischen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What are the above error messages? Sorry, I've never been able to build native java for FreeBSD. # cd /usr/ports/java/jdk13 # make install clean That's what I meant; it didn't work for me. It got pretty far through the build but seemed to run out of some sort of resource. I couldn't tell by the error message what it was, and I don't have the log anymore. I'll try again. -- Dan Eischen ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Native JDK with libthr/libkse
--On 31. mai 2003 11:22 -0400 Daniel Eischen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's what I meant; it didn't work for me. It got pretty far through the build but seemed to run out of some sort of resource. I couldn't tell by the error message what it was, and I don't have the log anymore. The last time I tried to build native Java was on STABLE back in the middle of March 2003. This was the java/jdk14 port. The port stated it needed 1.5GB free disk space in build area! but it needed approx. 2.2GB here. And it also needed quite a lot of memory (well, a lot doesn't really say much - I had 128MB RAM + 256MB SWAP at that time and it wasn't enough). After I gave it enough diskspace and 192MB RAM + 512MB SWAP it compiled fine. -- Regards / Hilsen Eivind Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Native JDK with libthr/libkse
On Sat, 31 May 2003, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Daniel Eischen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What are the above error messages? Sorry, I've never been able to build native java for FreeBSD. # cd /usr/ports/java/jdk13 # make install clean DES I disagree. I recently built jdk13 on Friday and it died on me, complaining about needing npapi.h. The build instructions did mention downloading the Sun SDK source and eyesbeyond patchset, but did not mention the Qt Netscape Plugin Extension. (I am not a Java programmer, I just like having the Java plugin for Mozilla. I am using 5.1-BETA and mozilla-devel (1.4b).) The fix: 1) Go to http://wp.netscape.com/comprod/development_partners/plugin_api/index.html. 2) Navigate to the Unix LiveConnect/Plug-in SDK, and download the Plugin SDK. As of today, you can download it directly from: ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/sdk/plugin/unix/unix-sdk-3.0b5.tar.Z 3) Extract the headers to a place where the build can find them (I put them in /usr/X11R6/include, I suspect there's a more appropriate place). The headers are in the PluginSDK30b5/include/ directory of the tarball. 4) Voila, jdk13 will build. Chris Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Potestatem obscuri lateris necsis. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Native JDK with libthr/libkse
Christopher Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, 31 May 2003, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Daniel Eischen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What are the above error messages? Sorry, I've never been able to build native java for FreeBSD. # cd /usr/ports/java/jdk13 # make install clean I disagree. I recently built jdk13 on Friday and it died on me, complaining about needing npapi.h. The build instructions did mention downloading the Sun SDK source and eyesbeyond patchset, but did not mention the Qt Netscape Plugin Extension. [...] I just built jdk13 a couple of days ago. No problem whatsoever. You guys must have rotten karma or something. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Native JDK with libthr/libkse
On Sun, 1 Jun 2003, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Christopher Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, 31 May 2003, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Daniel Eischen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What are the above error messages? Sorry, I've never been able to build native java for FreeBSD. # cd /usr/ports/java/jdk13 # make install clean I disagree. I recently built jdk13 on Friday and it died on me, complaining about needing npapi.h. The build instructions did mention downloading the Sun SDK source and eyesbeyond patchset, but did not mention the Qt Netscape Plugin Extension. [...] I just built jdk13 a couple of days ago. No problem whatsoever. You guys must have rotten karma or something. Did you already have a native JDK installed? -- Dan Eischen ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Native JDK with libthr/libkse
On (2003/06/01 00:50), Daniel Eischen wrote: I just built jdk13 a couple of days ago. No problem whatsoever. You guys must have rotten karma or something. Did you already have a native JDK installed? I built the native 1.4.1 JDK two weeks ago, first without the native JDK for bootstrapping, and then with the native JDK. Both worked without a hitch. If you're having problems with the build, your input would be appreciated on freebsd-java. The absence of credible Java support in FreeBSD has lost us significant penetration in the past, and it would be disastrous if the perceptions of the past shaped the future. FreeBSD now has some seriously committed Java people working hard on the port, and it'd be a shame if they didn't get to hear about the problem you've encountered. Ciao, Sheldon. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Native JDK with libthr/libkse
Daniel Eischen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 1 Jun 2003, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: I just built jdk13 a couple of days ago. No problem whatsoever. You guys must have rotten karma or something. Did you already have a native JDK installed? No. I used linux-sun-jdk13 to bootstrap. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Native JDK with libthr/libkse
I am testing about JDK1.4.1/1.3.1 with libthr/libkse using /etc/libmap.conf. 1. JDK1.3.1/libthr is not work. java is stop. 2. JDK1.3.1/libkse is not work. java is stop. 3. JDK1.4.1/libthr is not work. java is stop. 4. JDK1.4.1/libkse is good work. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $ /usr/local/jdk1.4.1/bin/java -jar /usr/local/jdk1.4.1/demo/jfc/Java2D/Java2Demo.jar May 31, 2003 10:33:14 AM java.util.prefs.FileSystemPreferences$3 run WARNING: Could not create system preferences directory. System preferences are unusable. May 31, 2003 10:33:45 AM java.util.prefs.FileSystemPreferences checkLockFile0ErrorCode WARNING: Could not lock System prefs.Unix error code 136418560. May 31, 2003 10:33:45 AM java.util.prefs.FileSystemPreferences syncWorld WARNING: Couldn't flush system prefs: java.util.prefs.BackingStoreException: Couldn't get file lock. May 31, 2003 10:34:15 AM java.util.prefs.FileSystemPreferences checkLockFile0ErrorCode WARNING: Could not lock System prefs.Unix error code 136418560. May 31, 2003 10:34:15 AM java.util.prefs.FileSystemPreferences syncWorld WARNING: Couldn't flush system prefs: java.util.prefs.BackingStoreException: Couldn't get file lock. May 31, 2003 10:34:45 AM java.util.prefs.FileSystemPreferences checkLockFile0ErrorCode WARNING: Could not lock System prefs.Unix error code 136418560. May 31, 2003 10:34:45 AM java.util.prefs.FileSystemPreferences syncWorld WARNING: Couldn't flush system prefs: java.util.prefs.BackingStoreException: Couldn't get file lock. : - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - top displays interesting message. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - last pid: 79860; load averages: 0.35, 0.19, 0.08 up 0+15:56:30 10:37:12 75 processes: 1 running, 74 sleeping CPU states: 16.6% user, 0.0% nice, 4.2% system, 1.5% interrupt, 77.6% idle Mem: 276M Active, 80M Inact, 111M Wired, 28M Cache, 60M Buf, 4164K Free Swap: 4096M Total, 6844K Used, 4089M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZERES STATETIME WCPUCPU COMMAND 597 root 970 109M99M select 6:37 3.91% 3.91% XFree86 : 79849 nork -84 -203 209M 41368K 0:00 0.00% 0.00% java - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - top is XFree86, bottom is java:-). And java is no state:-). Quite light! I cannot believe:-). java uses libkse. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $ fstat -m /usr/lib/libc_r* /usr/lib/libthr* /usr/lib/libkse* nork java 79849 mmap /usr 447622 -r--r--r-- 112948 r /usr/lib/libkse.so.1 nork java 79849 mmap /usr 447622 -r--r--r-- 112948 r /usr/lib/libkse.so.1 nork java 79849 mmap /usr 447622 -r--r--r-- 112948 rw /usr/lib/libkse.so.1 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Tested on 5.1-BETA. AthlonXP(1780MHz w/ overclock) x1 + 512MB DDR-SDRAM + ATI Radeon9100. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - FreeBSD melfina.ninth-nine.com 5.1-BETA FreeBSD 5.1-BETA #16: Thu May 29 22:17:51 JST 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MELFINA i386 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Native JDK with libthr/libkse
On Sat, 31 May 2003, Norikatsu Shigemura wrote: I am testing about JDK1.4.1/1.3.1 with libthr/libkse using /etc/libmap.conf. 1. JDK1.3.1/libthr is not work. java is stop. 2. JDK1.3.1/libkse is not work. java is stop. 3. JDK1.4.1/libthr is not work. java is stop. 4. JDK1.4.1/libkse is good work. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $ /usr/local/jdk1.4.1/bin/java -jar /usr/local/jdk1.4.1/demo/jfc/Java2D/Java2Demo.jar May 31, 2003 10:33:14 AM java.util.prefs.FileSystemPreferences$3 run WARNING: Could not create system preferences directory. System preferences are unusable. May 31, 2003 10:33:45 AM java.util.prefs.FileSystemPreferences checkLockFile0ErrorCode WARNING: Could not lock System prefs.Unix error code 136418560. May 31, 2003 10:33:45 AM java.util.prefs.FileSystemPreferences syncWorld WARNING: Couldn't flush system prefs: java.util.prefs.BackingStoreException: Couldn't get file lock. May 31, 2003 10:34:15 AM java.util.prefs.FileSystemPreferences checkLockFile0ErrorCode WARNING: Could not lock System prefs.Unix error code 136418560. May 31, 2003 10:34:15 AM java.util.prefs.FileSystemPreferences syncWorld WARNING: Couldn't flush system prefs: java.util.prefs.BackingStoreException: Couldn't get file lock. May 31, 2003 10:34:45 AM java.util.prefs.FileSystemPreferences checkLockFile0ErrorCode WARNING: Could not lock System prefs.Unix error code 136418560. May 31, 2003 10:34:45 AM java.util.prefs.FileSystemPreferences syncWorld WARNING: Couldn't flush system prefs: java.util.prefs.BackingStoreException: Couldn't get file lock. : - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - What are the above error messages? Sorry, I've never been able to build native java for FreeBSD. -- Dan Eischen ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Native JDK with libthr/libkse
On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 01:45:22AM -0400, Daniel Eischen wrote: On Sat, 31 May 2003, Norikatsu Shigemura wrote: I am testing about JDK1.4.1/1.3.1 with libthr/libkse using /etc/libmap.conf. 1. JDK1.3.1/libthr is not work. java is stop. 2. JDK1.3.1/libkse is not work. java is stop. 3. JDK1.4.1/libthr is not work. java is stop. 4. JDK1.4.1/libkse is good work. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $ /usr/local/jdk1.4.1/bin/java -jar /usr/local/jdk1.4.1/demo/jfc/Java2D/Java2Demo.jar May 31, 2003 10:33:14 AM java.util.prefs.FileSystemPreferences$3 run WARNING: Could not create system preferences directory. System preferences are unusable. May 31, 2003 10:33:45 AM java.util.prefs.FileSystemPreferences checkLockFile0ErrorCode WARNING: Could not lock System prefs.Unix error code 136418560. May 31, 2003 10:33:45 AM java.util.prefs.FileSystemPreferences syncWorld WARNING: Couldn't flush system prefs: java.util.prefs.BackingStoreException: Couldn't get file lock. May 31, 2003 10:34:15 AM java.util.prefs.FileSystemPreferences checkLockFile0ErrorCode WARNING: Could not lock System prefs.Unix error code 136418560. May 31, 2003 10:34:15 AM java.util.prefs.FileSystemPreferences syncWorld WARNING: Couldn't flush system prefs: java.util.prefs.BackingStoreException: Couldn't get file lock. May 31, 2003 10:34:45 AM java.util.prefs.FileSystemPreferences checkLockFile0ErrorCode WARNING: Could not lock System prefs.Unix error code 136418560. May 31, 2003 10:34:45 AM java.util.prefs.FileSystemPreferences syncWorld WARNING: Couldn't flush system prefs: java.util.prefs.BackingStoreException: Couldn't get file lock. : - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - What are the above error messages? Sorry, I've never been able to build native java for FreeBSD. Ignore them. They are related to non-writable directory there swing attempts to save properties file. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Native JDK with libthr/libkse
Daniel Eischen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What are the above error messages? Sorry, I've never been able to build native java for FreeBSD. # cd /usr/ports/java/jdk13 # make install clean DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
