Re: [acpi-jp 1735] Re: Call for testers: acpica-unix-20020815

2002-08-27 Thread David Schultz
Thus spake Terry Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Sometimes. But see http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/entry/DWIM.html > > I understand, but having a different failure is no worse than > having a failure, I think. In either case, it doesn't work, > even if it doesn't work in an entirely di

Re: [acpi-jp 1735] Re: Call for testers: acpica-unix-20020815

2002-08-27 Thread Terry Lambert
David Schultz wrote: > > So the worst possible outcome in the failure case is that it > > fails -- which it already does, without the assumption -- and > > the best possible outcome is that it succeeds when it wouldn't > > have. > > > > "Anything that works is better than anything that doesn't" >

Re: [acpi-jp 1735] Re: Call for testers: acpica-unix-20020815

2002-08-27 Thread David Schultz
Thus spake Terry Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > FWIW, there's historical precedent for this: the DEC VAX/VMS > C compiler would imply semicolons for the programmer that > forgot them, and a couple of other similar "fixups", issue a > warning, but the resulting code would run "as the programmer > m

RE: [acpi-jp 1735] Re: Call for testers: acpica-unix-20020815

2002-08-27 Thread Moore, Robert
: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 3:40 PM To: Moore, Robert Cc: 'Mitsuru IWASAKI'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Grover, Andrew Subject: Re: [acpi-jp 1735] Re: Call for testers: acpica-unix-20020815 "Moore, Robert" wrote: > I think you are missing somethin

Re: [acpi-jp 1735] Re: Call for testers: acpica-unix-20020815

2002-08-27 Thread Terry Lambert
"Moore, Robert" wrote: > I think you are missing something: > > 1) BIOS vendor writes ASL > 2) BIOS vendor compiles ASL to AML byte-code > 3) BIOS vendor puts AML into BIOS > 4) OS gets AML from the BIOS > 5) OS interprets AML > > The error you are experiencing is in (5). There is no return sta

Re: [acpi-jp 1735] Re: Call for testers: acpica-unix-20020815

2002-08-27 Thread Yann Berthier
On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, Moore, Robert wrote: > > This looks like the (in)famous "implicit return" problem that is in some > Toshiba ASL files. > > Method(_CRS) { > CRS_(0x10) > } > > This does NOT actually return a value and the ASL code is inco

RE: [acpi-jp 1735] Re: Call for testers: acpica-unix-20020815

2002-08-27 Thread Moore, Robert
, Andrew Subject: Re: [acpi-jp 1735] Re: Call for testers: acpica-unix-20020815 "Moore, Robert" wrote: > Well, the *real* problem is that there is no Return AML opcode in the > control method and the interpreter therefore does not return a value. > > However, to answer your ques

Re: [acpi-jp 1735] Re: Call for testers: acpica-unix-20020815

2002-08-27 Thread Terry Lambert
"Moore, Robert" wrote: > Well, the *real* problem is that there is no Return AML opcode in the > control method and the interpreter therefore does not return a value. > > However, to answer your question with a question: > > Would you ask a C compiler, or any other compiler for that matter, to >

RE: [acpi-jp 1735] Re: Call for testers: acpica-unix-20020815

2002-08-27 Thread Moore, Robert
Re: [acpi-jp 1735] Re: Call for testers: acpica-unix-20020815 "Moore, Robert" wrote: > This looks like the (in)famous "implicit return" problem that is in some > Toshiba ASL files. > > Method(_CRS) { > CRS_(0x10) >

Re: [acpi-jp 1735] Re: Call for testers: acpica-unix-20020815

2002-08-27 Thread Terry Lambert
"Moore, Robert" wrote: > This looks like the (in)famous "implicit return" problem that is in some > Toshiba ASL files. > > Method(_CRS) { > CRS_(0x10) > } > > This does NOT actually return a value and the ASL code is incorrect. It has > to be:

Re: [acpi-jp 1735] Re: Call for testers: acpica-unix-20020815

2002-08-27 Thread Yann Berthier
On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, Mitsuru IWASAKI wrote: > Hi, > > Could you put the following lines into /boot/loader.conf and send > dmesg output again? > > debug.acpi.layer="ACPI_ALL_COMPONENTS" > debug.acpi.level="ACPI_LV_ERROR" > Of course, here we go :) > >[sent privately to not spam

RE: [acpi-jp 1735] Re: Call for testers: acpica-unix-20020815

2002-08-27 Thread Moore, Robert
PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [acpi-jp 1735] Re: Call for testers: acpica-unix-20020815 Hi, Could you put the following lines into /boot/loader.conf and send dmesg output again? debug.acpi.layer="ACPI_ALL_COMPONENTS" debug.acpi.

Re: [acpi-jp 1735] Re: Call for testers: acpica-unix-20020815

2002-08-27 Thread Mitsuru IWASAKI
Hi, Could you put the following lines into /boot/loader.conf and send dmesg output again? debug.acpi.layer="ACPI_ALL_COMPONENTS" debug.acpi.level="ACPI_LV_ERROR" >[sent privately to not spam the lists with my dump files] > > On Mon, 26 Aug 2002, Mitsuru IWASAKI wrote: > > > >

Re: [acpi-jp 1735] Re: Call for testers: acpica-unix-20020815

2002-08-26 Thread Mitsuru IWASAKI
>FYI, I have now a "can't fetch resources for \\_SB_.PCI0.FNC0.PRT_ - >AE_BAD_DATA" with acpica-unix-20020815 during boot. I'd like to make sure if AE_BAD_DATA error occurred w/ previous versions (acpica-unix-20020725, 20020611, 20020404...) ? Or first time w/ acpica-unix-20020815 ? Anyw