09.04.10, 11:20, Garrett Cooper yanef...@gmail.com:
Ok. Or maybe since `we're here' sade needs to be populating
$DESTDIR/etc/fstab, not sysinstall ?
I'm also looking for answer to this question. It seems that all basic
operations
with partitions are already implemented. And I think
On 14.04.2010 13:28, Daniel Braniss wrote:
correct me if I'm wrong, is MBR the only one that can be used to change the
boot partition
via menu? and also via serial? BTW, you said you would look into boot0cfg :-)
At this thime I implemented writing bootstrap code only for MBR and GPT schemes.
Garrett Cooper yanef...@gmail.com writes:
Now you're making a dangerous assumption that /inst isn't being used
by the end-user for any predefined purpose.
No, I'm making the entirely reasonable assumption that *during the
installation process* sysinstall can mount whatever the hell it wants
Quoting Dag-Erling Smørgrav d...@des.no (from Thu, 08 Apr 2010
16:50:16 +0200):
Alexander Leidinger alexan...@leidinger.net writes:
I did not suggest to run the same program and get different
interfaces. My suggestion was to have a backend-lib and a frontend.
The backend containing the
Garrett Cooper yanef...@gmail.com writes:
Dag-Erling Smørgrav d...@des.no writes:
Garrett Cooper yanef...@gmail.com writes:
Dag-Erling Smørgrav d...@des.no writes:
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...which is exactly what I said - but in the
Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
Garrett Cooper yanef...@gmail.com writes:
Dag-Erling Smørgrav d...@des.no writes:
Garrett Cooper yanef...@gmail.com writes:
Dag-Erling Smørgrav d...@des.no writes:
[restored relevant context which was removed earlier in the thread]
...which
Paul Wootton p...@fletchermoorland.co.uk writes:
But... If this is a fresh install, then you really have not lost
anything if you making a mistake. If sysinstall / sade is run from a
running system and a mistake is made then you could loose your data,
but as you will need to have su-ed up, how
On Friday 09 April 2010 5:23:18 am Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
Garrett Cooper yanef...@gmail.com writes:
Dag-Erling Smørgrav d...@des.no writes:
Garrett Cooper yanef...@gmail.com writes:
Dag-Erling Smørgrav d...@des.no writes:
[restored relevant context which was removed earlier in
2010/4/9 Dag-Erling Smørgrav d...@des.no:
Garrett Cooper yanef...@gmail.com writes:
Dag-Erling Smørgrav d...@des.no writes:
Garrett Cooper yanef...@gmail.com writes:
Dag-Erling Smørgrav d...@des.no writes:
[restored relevant context which was removed earlier in the thread]
...which
09.04.10, 11:20, Garrett Cooper yanef...@gmail.com:
Ok. Or maybe since `we're here' sade needs to be populating
$DESTDIR/etc/fstab, not sysinstall ?
I'm also looking for answer to this question. It seems that all basic operations
with partitions are already implemented. And I think about
On Thursday 08 April 2010 06:25:47 Andrey V. Elsukov wrote:
I'm not ready yet to publish code. I planned to announce this RFC
a bit later, when code will be finished. But Konstantin (kib@) suggested
do it before finishing.
That's a shame. As long as the source isn't available it's of little
On 08.04.2010 10:27, Bruce Cran wrote:
That's a shame. As long as the source isn't available it's of little interest
to me.
For anyone who wants to see the bits of code I've got so far, I've created a
Google Code project at http://code.google.com/p/gcpart/ . I'm currently trying
to figure out
2010/4/7 Andrey V. Elsukov bu7c...@yandex.ru:
On 07.04.2010 21:49, Randi Harper wrote:
Wow. This is awesome. patches? :D
:)
I'm not ready yet to publish code. I planned to announce this RFC
a bit later, when code will be finished. But Konstantin (kib@) suggested
do it before finishing.
On 08.04.2010 11:27, Randi Harper wrote:
It's great that you want to work on this, but there are other people
working in the same area, so keeping your code to yourself for too
long makes it very likely that it will never get used.
Ok. I put the code here:
Quoting Andrey V. Elsukov bu7c...@yandex.ru (from Thu, 08 Apr 2010
10:51:08 +0400):
On 08.04.2010 10:27, Bruce Cran wrote:
That's a shame. As long as the source isn't available it's of
little interest
to me.
For anyone who wants to see the bits of code I've got so far, I've created a
Alexander Leidinger alexan...@leidinger.net writes:
Please consider using SVN instead. A lot more users will be able to
check out from there.
We don't grant non-committers access to the Subversion repo.
It looks like other people had a look at sysinstall, not at sade. As
sysinstall is
On 8 Apr 2010, at 10:05, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
Alexander Leidinger alexan...@leidinger.net writes:
Please consider using SVN instead. A lot more users will be able to
check out from there.
We don't grant non-committers access to the Subversion repo.
The SVN repo is available to the
Quoting Dag-Erling Smørgrav d...@des.no (from Thu, 08 Apr 2010
11:05:34 +0200):
Alexander Leidinger alexan...@leidinger.net writes:
Please consider using SVN instead. A lot more users will be able to
check out from there.
We don't grant non-committers access to the Subversion repo.
On 08.04.2010 11:05, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
Alexander Leidinger alexan...@leidinger.net writes:
Please consider using SVN instead. A lot more users will be able to
check out from there.
We don't grant non-committers access to the Subversion repo.
It looks like other people had a look
on 08/04/2010 12:05 Dag-Erling Smørgrav said the following:
Alexander Leidinger alexan...@leidinger.net writes:
Please consider using SVN instead. A lot more users will be able to
check out from there.
We don't grant non-committers access to the Subversion repo.
But nothing stops Andrey
On 08.04.2010 14:15, Alexander Leidinger wrote:
We don't grant non-committers access to the Subversion repo.
Ooops... seems I misremembered his status. Somehow I associate him with
something FreeBSD related. Andrey, did you participate in a GSoC?
No, I'm not fit for GSoC.
My suggestion is
Rui Paulo rpa...@freebsd.org writes:
Dag-Erling Smørgrav d...@des.no writes:
Alexander Leidinger alexan...@leidinger.net writes:
Please consider using SVN instead. A lot more users will be able
to check out from there.
We don't grant non-committers access to the Subversion repo.
The
Alexander Leidinger alexan...@leidinger.net writes:
I think this is more complicated than to refactor the interesting part
into a backend with an API which both tools can use. This would also
allow someone to write a GUI program (e.g. for PC-BSD).
There have been at least three or four
Quoting Dag-Erling Smørgrav d...@des.no (from Thu, 08 Apr 2010
14:01:33 +0200):
Alexander Leidinger alexan...@leidinger.net writes:
I think this is more complicated than to refactor the interesting part
into a backend with an API which both tools can use. This would also
allow someone to
On Thursday 08 April 2010 5:05:34 am Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
Alexander Leidinger alexan...@leidinger.net writes:
Please consider using SVN instead. A lot more users will be able to
check out from there.
We don't grant non-committers access to the Subversion repo.
It looks like other
On 8 Apr 2010, at 13:49, John Baldwin wrote:
On Thursday 08 April 2010 5:05:34 am Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
Alexander Leidinger alexan...@leidinger.net writes:
Please consider using SVN instead. A lot more users will be able to
check out from there.
We don't grant non-committers access to
Alexander Leidinger alexan...@leidinger.net writes:
Dag-Erling Smørgrav d...@des.no writes:
There have been at least three or four attempts to do this in the
past. One of them was even fully funded by the FreeBSD Foundation.
They all failed.
I was told a lot of people tried to make the
John Baldwin j...@freebsd.org writes:
Dag-Erling Smørgrav d...@des.no writes:
My suggestion is to add a sysinstall mode to sade where it
operates under certain (minor) constraints and reports what it did
in a format that sysinstall can parse, so sysinstall can just
fork-exec sade instead
Quoting Dag-Erling Smørgrav d...@des.no (from Thu, 08 Apr 2010
16:15:27 +0200):
Alexander Leidinger alexan...@leidinger.net writes:
Dag-Erling Smørgrav d...@des.no writes:
There have been at least three or four attempts to do this in the
past. One of them was even fully funded by the
Alexander Leidinger alexan...@leidinger.net writes:
I did not suggest to run the same program and get different
interfaces. My suggestion was to have a backend-lib and a frontend.
The backend containing the business-logic, and the frontend being
the presentation layer.
What you call the
On 04/08/2010 14:39, Alexander Leidinger wrote:
Quoting Dag-Erling Smørgrav d...@des.no (from Thu, 08 Apr 2010
16:15:27 +0200):
Alexander Leidinger alexan...@leidinger.net writes:
Dag-Erling Smørgrav d...@des.no writes:
There have been at least three or four attempts to do this in the
On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 10:53:48 +, Kris Moore k...@pcbsd.org wrote:
It's not nice to hijack a topic, but this is way to interesting for me, so
I do it anway :)
This has a few advantages, in that the backend can be used stand-alone
for scripted installations and also provide great flexibility
On 04/08/2010 16:30, Marian Hettwer wrote:
On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 10:53:48 +, Kris Moorek...@pcbsd.org wrote:
It's not nice to hijack a topic, but this is way to interesting for me, so
I do it anway :)
:) I didn't mean to hijack either, was trying to discuss advantage of
having backend
I too love the idea of generalizing (abstracting) the dirty-work to a
set of libraries and leaving the user interface up to the userland
applications. Thusly, an app in /usr/X11R6/bin can use said libraries in
plugging in functionality to an X11 GUI application, meanwhile an app
in /bin or /sbin
(( wishing that I hadn't un-CC'd the group on earlier e-mails ))
Some concerns that I have with separating the code into a back-end
versus front-end...
1. Is it currently the idea that -- when it comes down to the crunchgen
stuff -- we are going to re-work the code that generates the non-shared
Randi and I were discussion the possibility of having sysinstall
remember what you did and then able to write out a suitable
`install.cfg' file that could be subsequently used to perform a human-
less automated install with the same settings.
To expand a little on that...
I'd like to draw a
2010/4/8 Dag-Erling Smørgrav d...@des.no:
John Baldwin j...@freebsd.org writes:
Dag-Erling Smørgrav d...@des.no writes:
My suggestion is to add a sysinstall mode to sade where it
operates under certain (minor) constraints and reports what it did
in a format that sysinstall can parse, so
Garrett Cooper yanef...@gmail.com writes:
If the user shoots him or herself in the foot, that's their own
problem.
That kind of attitude is why people choose Linux over FreeBSD...
DES
--
Dag-Erling Smørgrav - d...@des.no
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On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote:
Randi and I were discussion the possibility of having sysinstall
remember what you did and then able to write out a suitable
`install.cfg' file that could be subsequently used to perform a human-
less automated install with
2010/4/8 Dag-Erling Smørgrav d...@des.no:
Garrett Cooper yanef...@gmail.com writes:
If the user shoots him or herself in the foot, that's their own
problem.
That kind of attitude is why people choose Linux over FreeBSD...
Where do you draw the line though? /media, /libexec, /proc, /sys,
2010/4/8 Garrett Cooper yanef...@gmail.com:
2010/4/8 Dag-Erling Smørgrav d...@des.no:
Garrett Cooper yanef...@gmail.com writes:
If the user shoots him or herself in the foot, that's their own
problem.
That kind of attitude is why people choose Linux over FreeBSD...
Where do you draw the
On 04/08/2010 18:15, Garrett Cooper wrote:
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Devin Teskedte...@vicor.com wrote:
Randi and I were discussion the possibility of having sysinstall
remember what you did and then able to write out a suitable
`install.cfg' file that could be subsequently used to
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Garrett Cooper yanef...@gmail.com wrote:
2. install.cfg is just a hacky / non-style(9) compliant way of
specifying how to do an install. If you could separate out sysinstall
into separate utilities and have each of the pieces execute as shell
commands with
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Andrey V. Elsukov bu7c...@yandex.ru wrote:
Hi, All.
Some days ago i begun rewriting sade(8) to libgeom(3). Just for fun :-)
Today i have progress and you can see some screenshoots here:
http://butcher.heavennet.ru/sade/
What is done:
1. It's fully rewritten,
On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 10:49:35AM -0700, Randi Harper wrote:
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Andrey V. Elsukov bu7c...@yandex.ru wrote:
Hi, All.
Some days ago i begun rewriting sade(8) to libgeom(3). Just for fun :-)
Today i have progress and you can see some screenshoots here:
On 07.04.2010 21:49, Randi Harper wrote:
Wow. This is awesome. patches? :D
:)
I'm not ready yet to publish code. I planned to announce this RFC
a bit later, when code will be finished. But Konstantin (kib@) suggested
do it before finishing.
I've been working on moving sysinstall from libdisk
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