RE: -current grinds exceeding slow

2000-10-12 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver

I use 0.85, I had some wierd problems with it in -CURRENT. I've moved down
to 4.1.1-STABLE till some of this stuff in -CURRENT cools down.


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On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Daniel O'Connor wrote:

> 
> On 12-Oct-00 Bob Bishop wrote:
> > >It's not.  My current box that is having problems has an fxp0 card.
> > >BTW, what speed is your processor?  I'm curious because the PPro 200
> > >I have here is having problems, but the PIII-700 isn't very affected.
> >  Try removing SMP_DEBUG from your config (see
> >  Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  from Jason Evans on this thread).
> 
> That worked for me...
> 
> Does anyone here run the really new version of Licq?
> 
> I know it sounds dumb, but it seems that if I run it and do some reasonably
> heavy disk, processes start getting stuck in things like vnlock, inode and
> ffsvgt...
> 
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RE: -current grinds exceeding slow

2000-10-12 Thread Daniel O'Connor


On 12-Oct-00 Bob Bishop wrote:
> >It's not.  My current box that is having problems has an fxp0 card.
> >BTW, what speed is your processor?  I'm curious because the PPro 200
> >I have here is having problems, but the PIII-700 isn't very affected.
>  Try removing SMP_DEBUG from your config (see
>  Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  from Jason Evans on this thread).

That worked for me...

Does anyone here run the really new version of Licq?

I know it sounds dumb, but it seems that if I run it and do some reasonably
heavy disk, processes start getting stuck in things like vnlock, inode and
ffsvgt...

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RE: -current grinds exceeding slow

2000-10-12 Thread Bob Bishop

Hi,

At 10:17 -0700 12/10/00, John Baldwin wrote:
[...]
>It's not.  My current box that is having problems has an fxp0 card.
>BTW, what speed is your processor?  I'm curious because the PPro 200
>I have here is having problems, but the PIII-700 isn't very affected.

Try removing SMP_DEBUG from your config (see
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
from Jason Evans on this thread).


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RE: -current grinds exceeding slow

2000-10-12 Thread John Baldwin


On 12-Oct-00 Bob Bishop wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> At 11:42 -0700 11/10/00, John Baldwin wrote:
>>On 10-Oct-00 Bob Bishop wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> What's happened recently to make -current so slow?
>>> [etc]
>>
>>I don't know.  Can you try to narrow down the date by cvsupping or
>>cvs updating with date tags to see when it started slowing down?
> 
> More data: it's networking that's doing it, not NFS per se. I'm doing a
> build with local sources on one of the affected boxes, on first impression
> looks like that is up to speed.
> 
> Both my affected boxes have ed NICs, I'll see if I can scare up a different
> card to try in case it's the ed driver. Watch this space...

It's not.  My current box that is having problems has an fxp0 card.
BTW, what speed is your processor?  I'm curious because the PPro 200
I have here is having problems, but the PIII-700 isn't very affected.

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RE: -current grinds exceeding slow

2000-10-12 Thread Bob Bishop

Hi,

At 11:42 -0700 11/10/00, John Baldwin wrote:
>On 10-Oct-00 Bob Bishop wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> What's happened recently to make -current so slow?
>> [etc]
>
>I don't know.  Can you try to narrow down the date by cvsupping or
>cvs updating with date tags to see when it started slowing down?

More data: it's networking that's doing it, not NFS per se. I'm doing a
build with local sources on one of the affected boxes, on first impression
looks like that is up to speed.

Both my affected boxes have ed NICs, I'll see if I can scare up a different
card to try in case it's the ed driver. Watch this space...


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Re: -current grinds exceeding slow

2000-10-11 Thread Jun Kuriyama

At 12 Oct 2000 04:08:04 GMT,
Jason Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Do you have the SMP_DEBUG kernel option enabled?

Yes, I had SMP_DEBUG in my kernel configuration.

> My changes added lots of mutexes to the kernel, and mtx_validate() iterates
> through all mutexes for mtx_init() and mtx_destroy() calls if SMP_DEBUG is
> enabled.  I'm working on a change that will use a pool of mutexes that are
> allocated at boot time, which will make this slow down go away, but it may
> be a while before it gets checked in.

Thank you for your information.  I've disabled SMP_DEBUG and it works
with usual speed!  I'll keep disabled until your modification will
come.


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Re: -current grinds exceeding slow

2000-10-11 Thread Jason Evans

On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 12:41:29PM +0900, Jun Kuriyama wrote:
> At 11 Oct 2000 18:43:14 GMT,
> John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I don't know.  Can you try to narrow down the date by cvsupping or
> > cvs updating with date tags to see when it started slowing down?
> 
> I've checked with -D '2000-10-03 00:00:00 GMT' and -D '2000-10-04
> 12:00:00 GMT'.  With previous kernel, "time find /usr/obj" returns 65
> seconds, but with later kernel, it returns 547 seconds (/usr/obj is
> NFS mounted from localhost).
> 
> Top command shows many processes locked with MUTEX status.  It seems
> this is caused by jasone's commit at 3rd Oct...

Do you have the SMP_DEBUG kernel option enabled?

My changes added lots of mutexes to the kernel, and mtx_validate() iterates
through all mutexes for mtx_init() and mtx_destroy() calls if SMP_DEBUG is
enabled.  I'm working on a change that will use a pool of mutexes that are
allocated at boot time, which will make this slow down go away, but it may
be a while before it gets checked in.

Jason


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RE: -current grinds exceeding slow

2000-10-11 Thread Jun Kuriyama

At 11 Oct 2000 18:43:14 GMT,
John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't know.  Can you try to narrow down the date by cvsupping or
> cvs updating with date tags to see when it started slowing down?

I've checked with -D '2000-10-03 00:00:00 GMT' and -D '2000-10-04
12:00:00 GMT'.  With previous kernel, "time find /usr/obj" returns 65
seconds, but with later kernel, it returns 547 seconds (/usr/obj is
NFS mounted from localhost).

Top command shows many processes locked with MUTEX status.  It seems
this is caused by jasone's commit at 3rd Oct...


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RE: -current grinds exceeding slow

2000-10-11 Thread John Baldwin


On 10-Oct-00 Bob Bishop wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> What's happened recently to make -current so slow?
> 
> make world kernel FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #11: Sat Sep 30 15:07:06 BST 2000
 elf make world started on Fri Oct  6 08:33:20 BST 2000
 elf make world completed on Fri Oct  6 13:30:13 BST 2000
> 
> ...just under 5hrs
> 
> 
> make world kernel FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Sun Oct 8 13:37:48 BST 2000
 elf make world started on Sun Oct  8 15:09:39 BST 2000
 elf make world completed on Mon Oct  9 16:35:00 BST 2000
> 
> ...over 25hrs
> 
> The machine feels very sluggish too, and the snake sometimes wiggles to a
> standstill.

I don't know.  Can you try to narrow down the date by cvsupping or
cvs updating with date tags to see when it started slowing down?

> This is a UP box, I've got an SMP box with the same symptoms.

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RE: -current grinds exceeding slow

2000-10-10 Thread Daniel O'Connor


On 10-Oct-00 Bob Bishop wrote:
>  make world kernel FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #11: Sat Sep 30 15:07:06 BST 2000
> >>> elf make world started on Fri Oct  6 08:33:20 BST 2000
> >>> elf make world completed on Fri Oct  6 13:30:13 BST 2000
>  
>  ...just under 5hrs
>  
>  
>  make world kernel FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Sun Oct 8 13:37:48 BST 2000
> >>> elf make world started on Sun Oct  8 15:09:39 BST 2000
> >>> elf make world completed on Mon Oct  9 16:35:00 BST 2000
>  
>  ...over 25hrs
>  
>  The machine feels very sluggish too, and the snake sometimes wiggles to a
>  standstill.
>  
>  This is a UP box, I've got an SMP box with the same symptoms.

'Me too'.
I notice it gets MUCH worse when using NFS, and just bad when using UFS (don't
know if it is FS specific or just the fact that NFS is networked though).

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