On Thu, Aug 23, 2001 at 09:50:27AM +1000, Andrew Kenneth Milton wrote:
I guess we can summarize now? :-)
1) If you are the author of software, it's a bad idea to simply release code
into the Public Domain, mainly because you can't protect your self from
litigation by placing
+---[ Crist J. Clark ]--
|
| As an analogy, take the example of BSD-licensed code where someone
| else owns the copyright (like anything in FreeBSD). Provided I follow
| the limited restrictions of the BSD-license, I can pile additional
| licensing terms on top of that. I
On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 09:23:58 +1000, Andrew Kenneth Milton wrote:
Once it's in the Public Domain you have abandoned your claim to copyright.
That is the point of the Public Domain. If you still wish to retain the
copyright and the associated rights you cannot release it into the Public
Andrew Kenneth Milton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Once it's in the Public Domain you have abandoned your claim to copyright.
Actually, that is not possible, at least in some countries
(including Germany, for example).
If you're the author of some piece of software, you're the
holder of the
On Wed, 22 Aug 2001 20:04:46 +0400, Andrey A. Chernov [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I mean common part of international copyright law.
There is no such thing as ``international copyright law''. There is
only national copyright law. Parties to the various international
copyright conventions agree
On Wed, 22 Aug 2001 10:35:11 +0400, Andrey A. Chernov [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
No, author part of copyright can't be deattached, unless fraud happens.
Only if you live in a country whose legal system recognizes ``moral
rights''.
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On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 11:48:52 -0400, Garrett Wollman wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2001 10:35:11 +0400, Andrey A. Chernov [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
No, author part of copyright can't be deattached, unless fraud happens.
Only if you live in a country whose legal system recognizes ``moral
From: Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Copyright Contradiction in libalias
Date: Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 12:24:56AM -0600
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nate Williams writes:
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: Once it's in the Public Domain you have abandoned your claim to copyright.
:
: On that released version
From: Crist J. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Copyright Contradiction in libalias
Date: Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 04:29:13PM -0700
On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 04:46:07PM -0600, Nate Williams wrote:
However, I can't retroactively take away the rights of anyone who has
gotten my 'public domain
:Yes, and no. Distributing the exact same sources (with an extra
:copyright part) that says somebody should not copy and distribute it,
:as if it were in the public domain, a few weeks after is probably
:fraud. Arguments like but I put extra work in this second
:distribution, since I made this
I guess we can summarize now? :-)
1) If you are the author of software, it's a bad idea to simply release code
into the Public Domain, mainly because you can't protect your self from
litigation by placing disclaimers in your code.
2) Public Domain means you relinquish your copyright
On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Crist J. Clark wrote:
It is now written policy, and I
believe it was the understood, unwritten policy in the past, that any
patches and additions to a file in FreeBSD are governed by the
existing licensing of the file unless otherwise stated. This would
indicate to me that
Well since copyright was abandoned (being placed into the public domain is
abandonment of copyright), the changed file can be copyrighted by whomever
makes changes. The new file is then covered by the license from that point
forward.
Copyright is certainly not abaondoned when you place
On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 08:14:59AM -0500, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
Well since copyright was abandoned (being placed into the public domain is
abandonment of copyright), the changed file can be copyrighted by whomever
makes changes. The new file is then covered by the license from that
From: Crist J. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Copyright Contradiction in libalias
Date: Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 11:40:20AM -0700
On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 08:14:59AM -0500, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
So, if Microsoft
decides they want your software without the existing license (public
On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 11:18:41PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
From: Crist J. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Copyright Contradiction in libalias
Date: Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 11:40:20AM -0700
On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 08:14:59AM -0500, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
So, if Microsoft
If you ever claimed to hold the copyright to software that has been
released into the public domain, you would be commiting fraud.
Not if I'm the author of the software.
I can release my software under as many licenses as I'd like, including
putting it into the public domain.
However, I
+---[ Nate Williams ]--
| If you ever claimed to hold the copyright to software that has been
| released into the public domain, you would be commiting fraud.
|
| Not if I'm the author of the software.
|
| I can release my software under as many licenses as I'd like,
On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 04:46:07PM -0600, Nate Williams wrote:
If you ever claimed to hold the copyright to software that has been
released into the public domain, you would be commiting fraud.
Not if I'm the author of the software.
I can release my software under as many licenses as
| If you ever claimed to hold the copyright to software that has been
| released into the public domain, you would be commiting fraud.
|
| Not if I'm the author of the software.
|
| I can release my software under as many licenses as I'd like, including
| putting it into the public
+---[ Nate Williams ]--
| | If you ever claimed to hold the copyright to software that has been
| | released into the public domain, you would be commiting fraud.
| |
| | Not if I'm the author of the software.
| |
| | I can release my software under as many
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nate Williams writes:
: | If you ever claimed to hold the copyright to software that has been
: | released into the public domain, you would be commiting fraud.
: |
: | Not if I'm the author of the software.
: |
: | I can release my software under as many
This is my fault. Charles gave me permission to change these files
to a BSD license a while ago. It looks like I got it wrong :-/
I'll fix it now.
I was doing some things in libalias when something caught my eye,
$ cat alias.c
/* -*- mode: c; tab-width: 8; c-basic-indent: 4; -*- */
+---[ Brian Somers ]--
| This is my fault. Charles gave me permission to change these files
| to a BSD license a while ago. It looks like I got it wrong :-/
|
| I'll fix it now.
Well since copyright was abandoned (being placed into the public domain is
abandonment of
Check with Charles to see if he really wants to abandon copyright claims
to his code, or whether he was really implying some really liberal open source
license.
With the BSD Copyright (only) he keeps the intellectual copyright on
the original. That's what I've changed it to (as per his
+---[ Brian Somers ]--
| Check with Charles to see if he really wants to abandon copyright claims
| to his code, or whether he was really implying some really liberal open source
| license.
|
| With the BSD Copyright (only) he keeps the intellectual copyright on
|
+---[ Brian Somers ]--
| Check with Charles to see if he really wants to abandon copyright claims
| to his code, or whether he was really implying some really liberal open source
| license.
|
| With the BSD Copyright (only) he keeps the intellectual copyright on
On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 02:10:42AM +0100, Brian Somers wrote:
+---[ Brian Somers ]--
| Check with Charles to see if he really wants to abandon copyright claims
| to his code, or whether he was really implying some really liberal open source
| license.
|
|
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