Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 10:32:23PM -0800, Dima Dorfman wrote: Peter Wemm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The version of the patch for -current uses the softdep mount option only. If you remove the mount option, you dont get softupdates. In this case, it might be better to just turn it on by

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-12 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], "David O'Brien" writes: On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 10:32:23PM -0800, Dima Dorfman wrote: Peter Wemm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The version of the patch for -current uses the softdep mount option only. If you remove the mount option, you dont get softupdates. In

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-12 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:33:59 +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Problem is many still feel it should not be used on / . Why not ? Because a small root partition fills up artificially during "make installworld" and/or "make installkernel". Everybody understands _why_ it happens, but that

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-12 Thread David Wolfskill
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:33:59 +0100 From: Poul-Henning Kamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], "David O'Brien" writes: On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 10:32:23PM -0800, Dima Dorfman wrote: Peter Wemm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The version of the patch for -current uses the softdep mount

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-12 Thread Dima Dorfman
"David O'Brien" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 10:32:23PM -0800, Dima Dorfman wrote: Peter Wemm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The version of the patch for -current uses the softdep mount option only. If you remove the mount option, you dont get softupdates. In this

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 05:12:13PM -0800, Dima Dorfman wrote: There's always the 'nosoftdep' mount option. It's also possible to enable it by default on everything except the root filesystem, but that's a [minor] POLA violation. I fail to see what is wrong with defaulting to `off'. -- --

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-12 Thread Dima Dorfman
"David O'Brien" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 05:12:13PM -0800, Dima Dorfman wrote: There's always the 'nosoftdep' mount option. It's also possible to enable it by default on everything except the root filesystem, but that's a [minor] POLA violation. I fail to see

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-10 Thread Jordan Hubbard
From: James FitzGibbon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: sysinstall option for softupdates Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 04:19:51 -0500 Are there any issues/plans to let users enable softupdates from inside of sysinstall ? No "plans", but it's certainly something which could be done. If this is a good

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-10 Thread James FitzGibbon
* Jordan Hubbard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010310 14:52]: H. OK, you intrigued me enough by this that I just went ahead and did it in -current. :) Let me know what you think, come tomorrow's snapshot. And that, in a nutshell, is why I love FreeBSD I've got a box that is in desperate

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-10 Thread David O'Brien
On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 11:51:54AM -0800, Jordan Hubbard wrote: I think this is really the only place to do it, just to ease confusion. You also wouldn't need to put superblock-frobbing code into sysinstall, just bundle tunefs into the mfsroot. Why not add the softupdates option to newfs?

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-10 Thread Dima Dorfman
"David O'Brien" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why not add the softupdates option to newfs? Since newfs contains every tunefs option other than softupdates, I consider it a bug that newfs didn't gain that functionality when it was added to tunefs. I wrote a patch to do this some time back.

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-10 Thread Jordan Hubbard
From: "David O'Brien" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: sysinstall option for softupdates Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:43:52 -0800 Why not add the softupdates option to newfs? Since newfs contains every tunefs option other than softupdates, I consider it a bug that newfs d

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-10 Thread Peter Wemm
Jordan Hubbard wrote: From: "David O'Brien" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: sysinstall option for softupdates Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:43:52 -0800 Why not add the softupdates option to newfs? Since newfs contains every tunefs option other than softupdates, I consider it a bug

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-10 Thread David O'Brien
On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 09:06:20PM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: I seem to recall Paul Saab has a set for both -current and -stable. Someone else also just posted a URL to a set of patches. Is Paul going to commit his, or can I take this on and commit the ones posted? -- -- David ([EMAIL

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-10 Thread Dima Dorfman
"David O'Brien" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 09:06:20PM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: I seem to recall Paul Saab has a set for both -current and -stable. Someone else also just posted a URL to a set of patches. Is Paul going to commit his, or can I take this on and commit

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-10 Thread Peter Wemm
Dima Dorfman wrote: "David O'Brien" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 09:06:20PM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: I seem to recall Paul Saab has a set for both -current and -stable. Someone else also just posted a URL to a set of patches. Is Paul going to commit his, or can I

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-10 Thread Dima Dorfman
Peter Wemm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The version of the patch for -current uses the softdep mount option only. If you remove the mount option, you dont get softupdates. In this case, it might be better to just turn it on by default and let those who don't want it somewhere use "nosoftdep";

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-10 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 11:51 AM -0800 3/10/01, Jordan Hubbard wrote: H. OK, you intrigued me enough by this that I just went ahead and did it in -current. :) Let me know what you think, come tomorrow's snapshot. Ooo. Might this be MFC-able before 4.3 goes out the door? -- Garance Alistair Drosehn

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-10 Thread David O'Brien
On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 09:51:46PM -0800, Dima Dorfman wrote: Are you talking about se's patches to make softdep a mount option, yes The former isn't something you can just drop in. You'd have to decide if softdep should be the default. It defaults to what tunefs sets it to -- POLA. If