good for today and future ladmins that cannot type a command.
Any USEFUL proposals that add some real functionality?
Since this will enable more people to run FreeBSD that otherwise
wouldn't give it a second glance, I would say it is VERY useful.
Really? How useful is FreeBSD going to be
[ This topic is better discussed in -multimedia@, suggest that followups
drop -hackers@ ]
i am out of current knowledge about common TV for about 10 years.
Currently in Poland there is aerial TV broadcasted in DVB-T standard.
There are TVs with builtin decoder/demodulator or separate
Wojciech writes:
after reading quite recent topics about disabling/enabling write cache, i
tried to test in on desktop 3.5 drive
kern.cam.ada.write_cache: 1
kern.cam.ada.read_ahead: 1
kern.cam.ada.0.read_ahead: -1
kern.cam.ada.0.write_cache: -1
i tried writing 1 or 0 to
Stefan writes:
I seem to remember, that drives of that time required the write cache
to be enabled to get any speed-up from tagged commands. This was no
risk with SCSI drives, since the cache did not make the drives lye
about command completion (i.e. the status for the write was only
returned
Wojciech writes:
If computer have UPS then write caching is fine. even if FreeBSD crash,
disk would write data
That is incorrect. A UPS reduces the risk, but does not eliminate it.
It is impossible to completely eliminate the risk of having the
write cache on. If you care about your data you
successfully modified a BSD based device
driver in the past giving major performance improvement. If I were
a C-level exec of a Fortune 500 company I'd just hire some device driver
wizard.
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Matthew writes:
There is also no information in the original email as to which direction
the I/O was being sent.
In one of the followups, Karim reported:
# dd if=/dev/zero of=foo count=10 bs=1024000
10+0 records in
10+0 records out
1024 bytes transferred in 19.615134 secs (522046
, and queuing should get you more than that.
Your SATA drive is getting the expected performance, which means that NCQ
must be working.
Please let me know if there is anything you would like me to run on the
BSD 9.1 system to help diagnose this issue?
Looking at the mpt driver, a verbose boot may give more
Karim writes:
dd to the
raw drive and no compression/encryption or some other features, just a
naive boot off a live 9.1 CD then dd (see below). The following results
have been gathered on the FreeBSD 9.1 system:
# dd if=/dev/zero of=toto count=100
100+0 records in
100+0 records out
51200
I wrote:
The kernel must be doing write-behind even to a raw disk, otherwise
waiting for write(2) to return before issuing the next write would
slow it down as Matthew suggests.
And a minute after hitting send, I remembered that FreeBSD does not
provide the traditional raw disk devices, e.g.
25.9 MB/s
Even Linux is pretty slow.
Transfer rates:
outside: 102400 kbytes in 0.685483 sec = 149384 kbytes/sec
middle:102400 kbytes in 0.747424 sec = 137004 kbytes/sec
inside:102400 kbytes in 1.051036 sec = 97428 kbytes/sec
That's more
Karim writes:
It is quite obvious that something is awfully slow on SAS drives,
whatever it is and regardless of OS comparison. We swapped the SAS
drives for SATA and we're seeing much higher speeds. Basically on par
with what we were expecting (roughly 300 to 400 times faster then what
we
Domagoj writes:
I've attempted to grep '/usr/ports/*/*/pkg-plist' for 'bin/lynx'
and shot myself in a foot! :P
Even if it did returned sane amount of matches, speed was atrocious.
time find /usr/ports/ -name pkg-plist | xargs grep bin/lynx$
/usr/ports/finance/ledgersmb/pkg-plist:@dirrm
of any of them. Back before FreeBSD existed, I
did manage to make a significant improvement to a driver in a
BSD-derived system, so I'm not a complete idiot.
Several different drivers cause the same problem. Are they all
making the same mistake? Or is there a problem in something
they all use? Whether
Which device drivers? We can't fix problems we don't know about.
ata(4) completely hung the system for 19 minutes (at which point
I manually intervened, see the PR), probably an infinite loop.
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=170675
Siis(4) and ahci(4) have also caused data loss,
Domagoj writes:
MBR supports max of 4 slices/partitions.
4 primary partitions, there are the extended/logical partitions,
which allow more.
The '/usr/mdec/mbr_bootsel', which you've mentioned, is equivalent
to FreeBSD's '/boot/boot0', which is tuned via 'boot0cfg' util.
It will also show
[ from the FreeBSD for serious performance? thread ]
So I use NetBSD's MBR for disks I want
to boot from.
Can I have a CMD sequence?
First would be ...
# fetch ...
Read NetBSD's fdisk(8) and mbr(8).
The MBR is only 512 bytes, and must contain the code and data.
This is very limiting,
(or grub2) can do it.
Back when I was triple-booting FreeBSD, NetBSD and Linux I used
grub (rev number forgotten). It was supposed to be able to boot
BSD from a partition but I never got that to work. I had to have it
boot the MBR of a different disk which then booted BSD. I wrote
3 little shell scripts
NCQ, but neither attach to the nforce4-ultra,
which does support NCQ. I knew that NCQ would be required for acceptable
performance and gave up other useful features to get it. Silly me,
assuming that the performance orientated version of BSD would
support such an essential performance feature
[ lack of SATA NCQ support for nforce4-ultra ]
Adrian writes:
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git;a=commitdiff;h=e2e031eb09760c36099ac127eeb175e06d257aef
which is:
The mcp61 has bug with ncq.
- { PCI_VDEVICE(NVIDIA, PCI_DEVICE_ID_NVIDIA_NFORCE_MCP61_SATA), SWNCQ },
- {
hardware where
people are often trying to squeeze out that last drop of performance,
Linux is certainly a steaming pile of crap. BSD is orders of magnitude
better, but hey, that doesn't take much.
But don't brag about high-end hardware. But FreeBSD has dropped support
for even semi-high-end hardware
Julian writes:
it is however a good way to get mismatching kernel and userland
but that's not what we are discussing.
The method recommended on
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html
# make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL
is also a good way to get
Alan writes:
In conclusion, I think it's time that we change M_NOWAIT so that it doesn't
dig any deeper into the cache/free page queues than M_WAITOK does and
reintroduce a M_USE_RESERVE-like flag that says dig deep into the
cache/free page queues. The trouble is that we then need to identify
In the last 72 hours, we've had two different systems freeze; they don't
apparently recognize any interrupts, they won't respond to ping, and
they require a powercycle to reboot. We can't easily generate an NMI on
these boxes.
Just on the off chance, does this sound like a familiar -- and
Yuri writes:
Anything else I can try?
One thing of importance here is that there is an older graphics card
9400 GT on this system and current nvidia-driver-295.71 has an issue
with 9400 GT: it makes graphics to malfunction (unpainted windows, long
delays switching to terminal mode) or
Adrian writes:
the cycle over a short period may not be the driver writing the same
crap to the card. I've seen similar failure modes in windows where
during playback, if the system hangs for whatever reason, the card
plays the last sample over and over in a loop.
Ok, that makes sense. So it
Yuri writes:
One of my 9.1-BETA1 systems periodically freezes. If sound was playing,
it would usually cycle with a very short period. And system stops being
sensitive to keyboard/mouse. Also ping of this system doesn't get a
response.
So the sound continues, on and off, while everything else
da0: 3.300MB/s transfers
da0: Command Queueing enabled
root@freebsd:/root # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da1 bs=16384 count=262144
4294967296 bytes transferred in 615.840721 secs (6974153 bytes/sec)
1) Does a larger block size (bs=1m) help?
2) That's roughly the speed I'd expect without
Why not create a command wtf(1)?
there are really lot of good features that can be made in FreeBSD.
actually good, instead of that crap
While this is certainly not the most important improvement that could
be made (Fix the PRs!), the proposed wtf command could be useful.
And, importantly,
As long as it can be toggled off system-wide, persistently (sysctl?), I
can't see the harm in bringing that in.
It violates the Unix Philosophy.
Make each program do one thing well. To do a new job, build afresh
rather than complicate old programs by adding new features.
These schemes to just put the metadata in some special location
and have all the tools know about it create a lot of problems.
There is always some tool that doesn't know. There is always
some human that doesn't know. Telling the difference between
real metadata and some other data that happens to
Robert writes:
3) the box is responsive to hitting enter at the console (it produces
another login: prompt)
Getty is in memory and can run.
5) if I try to login to the console, it lets me enter a username then
locks up totally, it does not present me with a password: prompt.
Login(1) is
Robert writes:
3) the box is responsive to hitting enter at the console (it produces
another login: prompt)
Getty is in memory and can run.
5) if I try to login to the console, it lets me enter a username then
locks up totally, it does not present me with a password: prompt.
Login(1) is
Robert writes:
3) the box is responsive to hitting enter at the console (it produces
another login: prompt)
Getty is in memory and can run.
5) if I try to login to the console, it lets me enter a username then
locks up totally, it does not present me with a password: prompt.
Login(1) is not
Wojciech writes:
1) i know for a friend that on some motherboards (it was embedded VIA
based CPU) geli doesn't work at typing password.
2) in my case (as well as his case) problems happen everytime kernel
function cngets is used, it maybe after being unable to mount root in
a kernel prompt.
user.vdr writes:
As long as there remain some NTSC broadcasts, there might be some
that you wish to watch. That's why I wrote:
Yes, technically there are still some that exist, for now. However,
their death certificate is signed and they're so few that it's not
worth mentioning.
If you
user.vdr writes:
Tuners do NOT provide raw audio/video to the system in any case.
http://corona.homeunix.net/cx88wiki/Overview/RawVideo
While that's technically possible in _some_ cases, and assuming it's
fully implemented and functional, I'm unaware of any software that
actually provides
user.vdr writes:
Recording doesn't require any compression unless you are transcoding
in real-time. There's no difference between recording ATSC, NTSC, PAL,
etc, and it's actually irrelevant what the stream is.
This is incorrect. ATSC is compressed before broadcast, so
you receive the data
user.vdr writes:
Recording doesn't require any compression unless you are transcoding
in real-time. There's no difference between recording ATSC, NTSC, PAL,
etc, and it's actually irrelevant what the stream is.
This is incorrect. ATSC is compressed before broadcast, so
you receive the data
This is a known issue, and had been around for a long time.
You can't reliably build 32 bit binaries (what the -m32 flag specifies)
on a 64 bit system. The header files (and possibly other things) are wrong.
People build 32 bit binaries on 64 bit systems all the time.
It is called
[ Added multimedia@ as that is a more appropriate list than hackers ]
I just moved into a very cramped apartment
we are using a broadcast signal only [current US {NYC} standards]
You'll need to know if you have any NTSC (analog) stations you
care about or if everything is ATSC (digital).
Brandon writes:
Booting into Ubuntu minimal or my own custom Linux distro,
literally takes 0.5-2 seconds to boot up to shell
0.5-2 seconds from power-on to a shell prompt? How do you
get through the firmware that fast, much less firmware plus
an OS?
Which reminds me, back when I was
on, and which are the most useful.
Replacing perfectly good components simply because they
are GPL. The purpose of BSD is supposed to be creating a
great OS, not providing software hoarders with a supply
of free code to abuse.
Sending people to conferences. Nice, but clearly a luxury.
Meanwhile
1) tar up files
2) encrypt tarball
3) copy encrypted tarball with rcp, ftp, uucp, ...
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Robert writes:
I want this:
# echo test\ttest test
# cat test
test test
I have given up on using echo for anything the least bit fancy,
in favor of printf(1) which gives much better control.
printf test\ttest\n
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*WHY* is Linux so much more popular than the BSDs?
GPL vs BSDL ? (Create a GPLed BSD and see if it takes off.)
the obese cartoon penguin?
Do most people actually prefer the lower quality product?
Popularity is inversly proportional to quality in many
areas, not just OSes.
marketing
Konstantin Belousov wrote:
My opinion is that such tool should be imported into the base.
Why?
Don't optional tools belong in ports?
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Andrey writes:
Wired memory: kernel memory and yes, application may get wired memory
through mlock()/mlockall(), but I haven't seen any real application
which calls mlock().
Apps with real time considerations may need to lock memory to prevent
having to wait for page/swap.
Brandon writes:
I'm still avidly trying to work on this idea, but right now the issue
seems to be with AMD and NVIDIA not documenting their protocols. Intel
does a good job, but I don't have any Intel chips with graphics laying
around.
I thought that AMD had documented most of it by now, with
mlock(2) says:
A single process can mlock() the minimum of a system-wide
``wired pages'' limit and the per-process RLIMIT_MEMLOCK
resource limit.
Shouldn't this say maximum rather than minimum?
I don't think so. The minimum of the two would be the limit that you
will hit first, and
Subsequent inspection suggested that it was happening during the
periodic daily, though we never managed to get it to happen by manually
forcing periodic daily, so that's only a theory.
Perhaps due to a bunch of VMs all running periodic daily at the same time?
We had a perfectly functional,
mlock(2) says:
A single process can mlock() the minimum of a system-wide
``wired pages'' limit and the per-process RLIMIT_MEMLOCK
resource limit.
Shouldn't this say maximum rather than minimum?
[EAGAIN] Locking the indicated range would exceed either the
system or per-process limit for
FreeBSD ?? - 7.4 never crash
FreeBSD 8.0 - 8.2 crashes
Obvious short term workaround is to run production on 7.4 (assuming you can)
until you figure out what is wrong with 8.x.
What filesystem(s) are you running? UFS? ZFS? other?
started randomly disconnecting people every morning
Due to
amd64
4 GiB
nVidia nForce CK804 (aka nforce4-ultra), SiI3132, JMB363
sata disks
FreeBSD 8.2
FFS/SU
Problem: I/O to one disk can fill up the disk buffer cache,
starving other processes of disk I/O. If the other processes
are logging real time data (from a closed source black box),
then data is
Brandon writes:
(If you haven't noticed, I'm going to keep finding excuses to
write this as I really am kindof excited to learn/work on it)
ideas:
Display PostScript
rio (from Plan 9)
If you're mainly looking for a low-level graphics project,
maybe reverse engineer something on the GPU (e.g.
The problem then is how to feed both machines the same inputs, and
compare the outputs. Do we need a third machine to supervise?
Can we have each machine keep an eye on the other, avoiding the
need for a third machine?
A pair would work as long as the only failures are obvious (e.g.
Rayson writes:
The question is, are we planning to handle 95% of the errors for 99%
of the hardware we run on, or are we really planning to spend years
trying to design something that would require special hardware
support?
I assume this started as: Oh look, most CPUs have multiple cores
Igor writes:
You mean something like: http://people.freebsd.org/~edwin/gnats/ ?
Daniel writes:
http://www.oook.cz/bsd/prstats/
Yes, something like these.
Stephen writes:
You should get extra points for difficult PR's. One way to measure this
would be to give more points for fixing older
The original goal for 5.0 was to completely remove the Giant lock (and
do other cool SMP-related stuff). Eventually it was realized that this
was too big a goal to fully accomplish in 5.0 (albeit too late in the
process) and the goal was changed to do the basic framework for the new
SMP
John writes:
- EOL 7
- mark 8 as legacy
- mark 9 as the _only_ production release
- release 10.0 in January 2017
Until a few days ago 8 was the latest, shinest release.
So you want to suddenly demote it all the way down to legacy?
I thought the goal was to have releases that can be used for a
The original goal for 5.0 was to completely remove the Giant lock (and
do other cool SMP-related stuff). Eventually it was realized that this
was too big a goal to fully accomplish in 5.0 (albeit too late in the
process) and the goal was changed to do the basic framework for the new
SMP
Andriy writes:
And dealing with PRs is not always exciting.
Neither is brushing your teeth or cleaning the kitchen, but most of us
manage to do them at least occasionally. Part of being a grown up.
Instead of looking for a stick to hold over developers to get them
to fix PRs, let's look for
Atom writes:
i bought myself a LENOVO T510 when it first came out, around early 2010.
it's got an i5 CPU and Arrandale GPU. it's two years old and on freeBSD i
STILL can't run xorg properly with it.
I have a machine from 2005-08 that FreeBSD still doesn't support properly
in 2012. After much
I have kde4 on 8.2 with translucency windows effect enabled and nvidia
graphics driver.
Every time I switch an active window or maximize some window, sound
played by mplayer interrupts for ~0.5 sec. Very annoying effect. Problem
disappears when windows effects in kde4 are turned off.
Is this
The system doesn't go multiuser until the rc jobs complete,
even if you attempt to background them with ''. This can be
a problem with long running jobs. I started using cron @reboot
for this reason.
I haven't run into the problem since I've never needed to run
/etc/rc.d/cron restart.
Add an
something like the following inside lseek() would take care of tape drives:
if (S_ISCHR(sb.st_mode) || S_ISBLK(sb.st_mode)) {
if (ioctl(io-fd, FIODTYPE, type) == -1)
err(1, %s, io-name);
if (type D_TAPE)
lseek() on a tape drive does not return an error, nor does it
actually do anything.
IIRC some tape drives can seek, while others cannot.
Vague memories that it is supposed to be possible to put a
filesystem on a DECtape and mount the filesystem.
It might be that FreeBSD doesn't currently
The data sheet for intel 82576 advertises IP TX/RX checksum offload
but the driver does not set CSUM_IP in ifp-if_hwassist. Does this mean
that driver (and chip) do not support IP TX checksum offload or the
support for TX is not yet included in the driver?
The first question is is checksum
The data sheet for intel 82576 advertises IP TX/RX checksum offload
but the driver does not set CSUM_IP in ifp-if_hwassist. Does this mean that
driver (and chip) do not support IP TX checksum offload or the support for
TX is not yet included in the driver?
The first question is is checksum
Firefox 5 and 6 has more gettimeofday call than 2 per second on my
amd64-8.2-stable box.
i don't see why chromium needs
to call gettimeofday(2) or any library function that triggers it more
than 3000 times a second.
What the BLEEP are web browsers doing that they need the clock
so
I guess formatting the filesystem for 4k sectors on a 512b drive would still
work but it would be suboptimal. What would the performance penalty be in
reality?
It would be suboptimal but only for the slight waste of space that would
have otherwise been reclaimed if the block or fragment
CONFDIR is for base, not ports
Perhaps ${BASE_CONF_DIR}, ${PORTS_CONF_DIR}, ...
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I've been working on fixing problems with printf(9), log(9) and
related functions. Today I tried converting printf(9) to write
to the log rather than directly to the console, unless the log is
not open, in which case the message is also sent to the console.
Printf(...) is now the same as
I've been working on fixing problems with printf(9), log(9) and
related functions. Today I tried converting printf(9) to write
to the log rather than directly to the console, unless the log is
not open, in which case the message is also sent to the console.
Printf(...) is now the same as
please keep in mind that -Wfoo does reflect the ideas of the GNU people
regarding *proper* code. the warnings themselves are sometimes wrong,
because they complain about perfectly correct code.
I attempted to get the gcc people to improve this:
http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=9072
Peter writes:
A better approach is to be able to boot whatever slice you
want without having to change the active slice.
NetBSD can do this. The MBR puts up a menu of the bootable
slices on the disk being booted. You can allow the timer
to time out and boot the default. Or you can enter the
I have i.e; 3 slices, of which first is active.
Now I wana set slice 2 active, but only for a one/next boot.
Once slice 2 is booted and system is shutdown or rebooted,
once again, first slice is active and booted, without user's intervention.
I think that setting the active slice is the wrong
maybe we find some nice -Wwarning options which are reasonable
to have
-Wmissing-declarations
-Wimplicit
FreeBSD's gcc doesn't seem to have -Wcoercion ???
Bugzilla indicates that it was added years ago (2006?).
It would be really really nice if -static worked on (nearly) everything.
and -
Chris writes:
Ports need attention. The warnings I get there are frightening.
I find it comforting that they're just that: warnings.
How do they frighten you?
High quality code does not have any warnings.
The most frightening thing is the attitute that They're just warnings,
so I'll ignore
There's really only room for one or two more menu items.
Perhaps some items could be moved to a 2nd level menu?
1) boot multiuser mode ( default )
2) boot single user mode
3) menu to set boot options
4) help
Would be nice: a fix for having to lean on a key autorepeating
for a couple seconds.
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works this time - grumble- ]
I hope that works for serial console. VT100 may be a reasonable
default in that case, but it would be good to make sure that menu
works even on a dumb terminal. Perhaps we should put 'key' letter
in
Already on the to-do list is to support ``loader_logo=...'' in
/boot/loader.conf
Including an option for no logo? (For consoles that are slow and/or
small, and for people that just don't like the logos.)
Putting brackets around letters (and numbers) sounds good.
If there is room, perhaps add
posted patches to this effect some months ago. they needed some
clean-up and validation but the also mapped correctly into an
RPC_NGROUPS_MAX and IPC_NGROUPS_MAX for consistent (and possibly
dynamic) mapping to those problem areas. they build and run but are
untested beyond that. i do not
On 25.03-05:31, David Schultz wrote:
[ ... ]
A person's Copyright doesn't go away just because they die,
disappear, or fail to respond. If you can't contact them, their
heirs, or whomever they transferred the Copyright to, you're stuck.
yeah but it's a little like finding something. if there
On 23.03-00:39, David Schultz wrote:
[ ... ]
There's already a kern.ngroups sysctl, but there are many places
where `ngroups' needs to be used in preference to NGROUPS in the
kernel. In userland, sysconf(_SC_NGROUPS_MAX) needs to be used in
preference to NGROUPS_MAX.
you will also note that,
On 22.03-22:33, Boris Kochergin wrote:
Ahoy. I got bitten by this today--a system I administer for someone had
users in more than 16 groups, so I had to bump the value, recompile the
kernel, and reboot. It seems desirable to (at the very least) make this
a read-only tunable that can be set
On 21.02-22:49, Julian Elischer wrote:
[ ... ]
this patch should remove the dependancy on the definition of
NGROUPS_MAX as a static constant and implement it as a writable
sysconf variable of the same. it should also make the necessary
changes to the codebase to support those.
[ ... ]
What
attached is the first in a series of patches that is intended to
remove the current limitation on group membership.
this patch should remove the dependancy on the definition of
NGROUPS_MAX as a static constant and implement it as a writable
sysconf variable of the same. it should also make the
Hi all,
I just upgraded from 6.0-RELEASE to -STABLE today (FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE
#0: Thu Nov 24 00:40:48 WET 2005). After the upgrade I couldn't login
anymore, so I thought I probably erased master.passwd by mistake with
mergemaster, and rebooted into single user mode. Here I reset both root
Hi,
I am working with the Kernel config file to optimize it and also to improve the
overall security of the system!
I have the following quetions:
(1) There are a few options that are not available in the default kernel... like the
IPFIREWALL options(and the like)... I basically need to
Hi,
I need the kernel GENERIC config file for freebsd 4.7. I am able to find only the
config file for freeBSD 5.2 online... can n'ybody either mail me the freeBSD 4.7
GENERIC file or gimme a link to it?
Thank you.
HKR
-
Do you
Hi,
I am building a custom kernel with FreeBSD 5.2... I need to disable ACPI (otherwise
the system fails to recognize the disk!!)
... so is it fine if I just do a make and then a make install of the new kernel and
then add hint.acpi.0.disabled to /boot/loader.conf ? or is anything to be
Hi All,
I have a few basic questions regarding building a custom Kernel:
(1) Once I configure, make and make install the custom kernel... it will get written
to /boot/kernel. Now I have already made a backup of the working kernel. what I need
to know is when I get the boot loader
On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 04:10:38PM -0600, Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 07:36:10AM -0800 I heard the voice of
Avleen Vig, and lo! it spake thus:
If I understand you right..
A floppy boot, which loads the absolutely basic stuff (network drivers,
and some easy way to
Hi ,
I am just testing jail on my FreeBSD4.8-stable box, i found i can not ssh to the jail
environment, but i can telnet to jail environment, the sshd is running both inside and
outside jail. What's the problem.
With following link is i ask in www.freebsdforums.org .
hi all,
as i install a lot package work together, such apache+php+mysql..
i always download the source code compile by myself, it just need to make with some
options such as ..
make --prefix=/usr/local/apache --enable-module=so
But i found someone said install by /usr/ports also can do that,
Hi all,
Is it there have IP Network Multipathing failover on FreeBSD..?? how to do so??
Thanks
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Dear Hackers,
I have experienced a system crash for the first time in 10 months (last year
in august I had a vinum issue which has been resolved with your help).
Fortunately I still have a kernel with debugging enabled running, and the
gdbmods script, so I can submit some useful data with
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dear Hackers,
I have experienced a system crash for the first time in 10 months (last
year in august I had a vinum issue which has been resolved with your
help).
Fortunately I still have a kernel with debugging enabled running, and the
gdbmods script, so I can
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