On Sat, 25 Sep 1999, Chris Costello wrote:
:On Fri, Sep 24, 1999, Nate Williams wrote:
: Unfortunately, as with all 'slick' products we've talked about, it still
: requires a working X setup in order to run. You could do one as a CUI,
: but doing it in Java would be just as hard as anything
If memory serves me right, "Andrew Reilly" wrote:
On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 08:09:13AM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote:
On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 10:22:34AM +1000, Andrew Reilly wrote:
What I'd like is a little weekly crontab script that runs after
my weekly ports cvsup, and tells me which of the
On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Wes Peters wrote:
Ben Rosengart wrote:
Well, I for one would like a command that fetches a package without
installing it. I don't see any option to pkg_add for that.
See fetch(1). ;^)
(Sorry, catching up after a weekend of the flu.)
But pkg_add knows where
On Mon 1999-09-27 (10:22), Andrew Reilly wrote:
I've longed for a mechanism to keep the ports that I use as
up-to-date as the rest of my FreeBSD system. Unfortunately,
some ports I don't use very often, and so forget that they're
there.
Unfortunately (again), the port name-version_number
On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 10:22:34AM +1000, Andrew Reilly wrote:
What I'd like is a little weekly crontab script that runs after
my weekly ports cvsup, and tells me which of the ports that I
"subscribe to" has changed, so that I can think about rebuilding it.
ports/sysutils/pkg_version.
Then
On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 08:09:13AM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote:
On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 10:22:34AM +1000, Andrew Reilly wrote:
What I'd like is a little weekly crontab script that runs after
my weekly ports cvsup, and tells me which of the ports that I
"subscribe to" has changed, so that I
At 26/09/99, you wrote:
The second script is called "pkg_rm"; it can be used to delete
packages like pkg_delete, but you can use arguments in the same
way as for pkg_ls above (i.e. "pkg_rm lynx"). Think of it like
pkg_info | grep | pkg_delete.
It might more sense to implement these features in
Erm, I must admit, I've never actually tried it or Debian Linux. It
merely seemed reasonable humor-fodder. :)
- Jordan
On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 12:54:32PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
Most of what you've shown can be accomplished with 'pkg_add -r' and
some enviromental variables.
"Daniel C. Sobral" wrote:
That's because you are not a loser. Losers want plug-and-play. This
pkg_get is plug and play, pkg_add isn't. It doesn't, for instance,
automatically retrives a list of the packages available fromt he net
and show them to you.
I meant luser, of course. With this,
On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 09:05:20AM +0200, Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote:
What about to extend the pkg_delete to use a syntax like :
pkg_delete /var/db/pkg/netscape-communicator-4.61/
it can help so much everyone that can automagically complete file/path
names with the shell :-)
zsh users
Wes Peters wrote:
"Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote:
Boy, we're having fun asking you to rewrite your program. It's good training
for you, though, this is what it's like to be a programmer in "The Real
World". ;^)
You bet! And we haven't even gotten to the topic of the interactive
On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 09:05:20AM +0200, Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote:
What about to extend the pkg_delete to use a syntax like :
pkg_delete /var/db/pkg/netscape-communicator-4.61/
it can help so much everyone that can automagically complete file/path
names with the shell :-)
If you use
Tony Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Rajappa Iyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1. It does a terrible job at tracking dependencies, IMHO. If you
install packages A, B and C at the same time and A depends on C,
it's not smart enough to install C first. pkg_order | tsort should
do the
Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote:
At 26/09/99, you wrote:
The second script is called "pkg_rm"; it can be used to delete
packages like pkg_delete, but you can use arguments in the same
way as for pkg_ls above (i.e. "pkg_rm lynx"). Think of it like
pkg_info | grep | pkg_delete.
It might more
On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 01:52:36AM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote:
While we're talking about making package handling easier for
newbies, I'd like to present two simple shell scripts that I
wrote quite some time ago. Yeah, I know I could send-pr this,
but I'm not sure if they're really worth it
"Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote:
Boy, we're having fun asking you to rewrite your program. It's good training
for you, though, this is what it's like to be a programmer in "The Real
World". ;^)
You bet! And we haven't even gotten to the topic of the interactive
package selection menu
On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 06:08:15PM -0400, Rajappa Iyer wrote:
4. The number of times that I've had a random bug in the
{pre|post}{install|remove} scripts essentially render the system
unupgradeable is not funny. I have had to go and physically remove
some files and edit the package
On 25-Sep-99 Nik Clayton wrote:
On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 06:08:15PM -0400, Rajappa Iyer wrote:
4. The number of times that I've had a random bug in the
{pre|post}{install|remove} scripts essentially render the system
unupgradeable is not funny. I have had to go and physically
Hi, I'm back and boy, this has became a long thread.
Most of what you've shown can be accomplished with 'pkg_add -r' and
some enviromental variables.
I don't see the huge benefit.
That's because you are not a loser. Losers want plug-and-play. This
pkg_get is plug and play, pkg_add
While we're talking about making package handling easier for
newbies, I'd like to present two simple shell scripts that I
wrote quite some time ago. Yeah, I know I could send-pr this,
but I'm not sure if they're really worth it (if someone thinks
they are, then I'll send-pr them).
The first one
On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 12:32:16PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote:
Re-read the first para of his message:
- I completely agree!! Debian's package manager is one of the most
- infuriatingly buggy piece of software that I've ever used.
He's complaining about Debian's stuff, not the Ports
On Sun, 26 Sep 1999, Daniel C. Sobral wrote:
I don't see the huge benefit.
That's because you are not a loser. Losers want plug-and-play. This
pkg_get is plug and play, pkg_add isn't. It doesn't, for instance,
automatically retrives a list of the packages available fromt he net
and show
On Sat, 25 Sep 1999, Ben Rosengart wrote:
Well, I for one would like a command that fetches a package without
installing it. I don't see any option to pkg_add for that.
Patches to do this would be trivial. It would have to be a flag you'd
use with '-r' otherwise we'd have to call the program
On Sat, Sep 25, 1999, Bill Fumerola wrote:
Patches to do this would be trivial. It would have to be a flag you'd
use with '-r' otherwise we'd have to call the program 'fetch'.
What about the graphical interface and Java versions? Any
plans for that in pkg_install?
--
|Chris Costello
On Fri, Sep 24, 1999, Nate Williams wrote:
Unfortunately, as with all 'slick' products we've talked about, it still
requires a working X setup in order to run. You could do one as a CUI,
but doing it in Java would be just as hard as anything else at this
point. :(
There's nothing keeping
Jaakko Salomaa wrote:
Well, I wouldn't use the word 'loser'. A 'newbie' would be more
I meant luser, actually. :-)
politically correct. And what's wrong with it if it's easy to use?
That depends on your definition of "easy". I can use pkg_add faster,
not having to go through menus, thus I
On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
I had the idea from Debian Linux's atp-get utility, which my friend
praised a lot. The source tarball can be fetched from the following URL:
http://www.saunalahti.fi/~jsalomaa/pkg_get.tar.gz
This is quite interesting and I'm looking at it
"Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote:
I had the idea from Debian Linux's atp-get utility, which my friend
praised a lot. The source tarball can be fetched from the following URL:
http://www.saunalahti.fi/~jsalomaa/pkg_get.tar.gz
This is quite interesting and I'm looking at it now. Just one quick
On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Daniel C. Sobral wrote:
This is quite interesting and I'm looking at it now. Just one quick
question though - why did you "roll your own" ftp I/O handling instead
of simply using fetch(3) or ftpio(3)?
Alas, it also seems to have a "default" ftp site. I don't think
Jaakko Salomaa wrote:
It's designed to be easy to use, so it first checks -s parameter, then
PKGSERVER environment variable, then the machine's toplevel domain. If the
toplevel domain contains only two letters it attemps to use
ftp.tld.freebsd.org, else it defaults to ftp.freebsd.org and
Jaakko Salomaa wrote:
On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Daniel C. Sobral wrote:
This is quite interesting and I'm looking at it now. Just one quick
question though - why did you "roll your own" ftp I/O handling instead
of simply using fetch(3) or ftpio(3)?
BTW, I'm now utilizing ftpio(3)
On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Jaakko Salomaa wrote:
It's designed to be easy to use, so it first checks -s parameter, then
PKGSERVER environment variable, then the machine's toplevel domain. If the
toplevel domain contains only two letters it attemps to use
ftp.tld.freebsd.org, else it defaults to
Jaakko Salomaa wrote:
BTW, I'm now utilizing ftpio(3) instead of my own kludge, I'll probably
send a new message to -hackers when the new version is ready. (I'm going
to spend a few days somewhere else.)
fetch(3) is a better choice because it allows http downloads too. Passing
a URL is now
Boy, we're having fun asking you to rewrite your program. It's good training
for you, though, this is what it's like to be a programmer in "The Real
World". ;^)
You bet! And we haven't even gotten to the topic of the interactive
package selection menu yet! :-)
- Jordan
To Unsubscribe:
On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Jaakko Salomaa wrote:
And yes, I know what ports are. But fetching and installing packages is
much faster than fetching the bigger source tarball and compiling it. And
yes, I know about the remote fetching ability of pkg_add, but it is pretty
poor in my opinion. I think
On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
You bet! And we haven't even gotten to the topic of the interactive
package selection menu yet! :-)
A friend of mine is working on an X/Java version of that. I have no idea
how far he has gotten. I reviewed his notes, it looks like a great
On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
Most of what you've shown can be accomplished with 'pkg_add -r' and
some enviromental variables.
In its current incarnation, that's pretty much true. However, we also
intend to throw feature upon feature request onto his pile until
Jaakko
Most of what you've shown can be accomplished with 'pkg_add -r' and
some enviromental variables.
In its current incarnation, that's pretty much true. However, we also
intend to throw feature upon feature request onto his pile until
Jaakko ends up reproducing the Debian package manager for us!
Daniel C. Sobral wrote in list.freebsd-hackers:
Jaakko Salomaa wrote:
It's designed to be easy to use, so it first checks -s parameter, then
PKGSERVER environment variable, then the machine's toplevel domain. If the
toplevel domain contains only two letters it attemps to use
Chris Piazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 12:54:32PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
Most of what you've shown can be accomplished with 'pkg_add -r' and
some enviromental variables.
In its current incarnation, that's pretty much true. However, we also
intend
"Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote:
Boy, we're having fun asking you to rewrite your program. It's good training
for you, though, this is what it's like to be a programmer in "The Real
World". ;^)
You bet! And we haven't even gotten to the topic of the interactive
package selection menu
You bet! And we haven't even gotten to the topic of the interactive
package selection menu yet! :-)
Let alone the Java-based GUI.
In all seriousness, given the stability of the JDK on FreeBSD *plus* the
ability to ship a FreeBSD with the JRE legally (although we don't ship
anything at
Hello,
I have made this little program named pkg_get. It's decided to ease
fetching and installing of FreeBSD (and why not Open- or NetBSD) binary
packages, by making a database out of packages at a ftp server's packages
directory.
I had the idea from Debian Linux's atp-get utility, which my
On 23 Sep 1999, Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami wrote:
* % ** ./pkg_get -i gtk **
* Current server is the main distribution site, ftp.freebsd.org.
* Do you want to use it? (Y/N) ** n **
:
* Receiving glib-1.2.3.tgz (166214 bytes): 100%
* 166214 bytes transferred in 21.9 seconds (7.40
I had the idea from Debian Linux's atp-get utility, which my friend
praised a lot. The source tarball can be fetched from the following URL:
http://www.saunalahti.fi/~jsalomaa/pkg_get.tar.gz
This is quite interesting and I'm looking at it now. Just one quick
question though - why did you
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