Re: libcompat proposition

1999-08-13 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:16:09 -0400, Jamie Howard wrote: I saw someone say that anything NetBSD did in the name of portability must be right (in the test thread). :) Close, but what I said was more along the lines that following NetBSD's footsteps on issues relating to portability is

Re: libcompat proposition

1999-08-13 Thread Jamie Howard
On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Sheldon Hearn wrote: Close, but what I said was more along the lines that following NetBSD's footsteps on issues relating to portability is _seldom_ a bad idea. I was close enough that you know the exact quote so I think I did alright. Back to the point, just stick it in

Re: libcompat proposition

1999-08-13 Thread Brian F. Feldman
On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Jamie Howard wrote: On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Sheldon Hearn wrote: Close, but what I said was more along the lines that following NetBSD's footsteps on issues relating to portability is _seldom_ a bad idea. I was close enough that you know the exact quote so I think I

Re: libcompat proposition

1999-08-13 Thread Jamie Howard
On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Jamie Howard wrote: How would those functions which also exist in libc (or possibly other libraries, I don't know) be handled? Just following up to myself here, NetBSD has a getopt_long() in libc ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-current/src/lib/libc/stdlib/ I saw

Re: libcompat proposition

1999-08-13 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:16:09 -0400, Jamie Howard wrote: I saw someone say that anything NetBSD did in the name of portability must be right (in the test thread). :) Close, but what I said was more along the lines that following NetBSD's footsteps on issues relating to portability is

Re: libcompat proposition

1999-08-13 Thread Jamie Howard
On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Sheldon Hearn wrote: Close, but what I said was more along the lines that following NetBSD's footsteps on issues relating to portability is _seldom_ a bad idea. I was close enough that you know the exact quote so I think I did alright. Back to the point, just stick it in

Re: libcompat proposition

1999-08-13 Thread Brian F. Feldman
On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Jamie Howard wrote: On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Sheldon Hearn wrote: Close, but what I said was more along the lines that following NetBSD's footsteps on issues relating to portability is _seldom_ a bad idea. I was close enough that you know the exact quote so I think I

Re: libcompat proposition

1999-08-13 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Fri, 13 Aug 1999 12:52:05 -0400, Brian F. Feldman wrote: Direct veto by core member (Jordan) prevents this. I really think it should be in libcompat, the more I consider every option. Regardless of what Jordan says, you should do your best to put it where most other folks put it.

Re: libcompat proposition

1999-08-12 Thread Brian F. Feldman
On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Brian F. Feldman" writes: : What do you all think about growing a gnu subdirectory in src/lib/libcompat? : Things like a getopt_long implementation (yes, if it will be accepted, : I am volunteering to write it...) would

Re: libcompat proposition

1999-08-12 Thread Steve Kargl
Brian F. Feldman wrote: On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Brian F. Feldman" writes: : What do you all think about growing a gnu subdirectory in src/lib/libcompat? : Things like a getopt_long implementation (yes, if it will be accepted, : I am

Re: libcompat proposition

1999-08-12 Thread Brian F. Feldman
On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Steve Kargl wrote: If you're writing unencumbered code, placing it under libcompat/gnu may lead to confusion because all other directory paths containing gnu contain GPL'd code. Just stick it into libcompat. That doesn't fit with the current organization. Choose:

Re: libcompat proposition

1999-08-12 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve Kargl writes: : If you're writing unencumbered code, placing it under : libcompat/gnu may lead to confusion because all other : directory paths containing gnu contain GPL'd code. : Just stick it into libcompat. Or libiberty :-) That way we can have a GPL-free

Re: libcompat proposition

1999-08-12 Thread Steve Kargl
Brian F. Feldman wrote: On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Steve Kargl wrote: If you're writing unencumbered code, placing it under libcompat/gnu may lead to confusion because all other directory paths containing gnu contain GPL'd code. Just stick it into libcompat. That doesn't fit with the

Re: libcompat proposition

1999-08-12 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Brian F. Feldman" writes: : There : is simply no reason to assume that anything under a gnu directory is GPLd, : or that anything GPLd is going to be under a gnu directory (which it's not.) I'm afraid there is. It has been stated many times in the past that all

Re: libcompat proposition

1999-08-12 Thread Ben Rosengart
On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Steve Kargl wrote: Brian F. Feldman wrote: If you're writing unencumbered code, placing it under libcompat/gnu may lead to confusion because all other directory paths containing gnu contain GPL'd code. Just stick it into libcompat. How about libcompat/gnuish?

Re: libcompat proposition

1999-08-12 Thread Jamie Howard
On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Tim Vanderhoek wrote: src/lib/libgnucompat seems to be the best suggestion so far. I wonder where the line between libgnucompat and libfreebsdextension is, though. I've only been active here a few weeks but I've grown used to the "go ahead and do it" I know I'm about to

Re: libcompat proposition

1999-08-12 Thread Brian F. Feldman
On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Tim Vanderhoek wrote: On Thu, Aug 12, 1999 at 02:21:11PM -0400, Brian F. Feldman wrote: I don't care if most of the directories called "gnu" in the current tree contain GPLd code. How I had to read your message about 4

Re: libcompat proposition

1999-08-12 Thread Ville-Pertti Keinonen
ch...@calldei.com (Chris Costello) writes: I'm in favor of a libgnucompat rather than gnu functions in libcompat. And how would a libgnucompat be different from libiberty? Except of course that it would be maintained by the FreeBSD folks... Or that it would be maintained at all. ;--)

Re: libcompat proposition

1999-08-12 Thread Brian F. Feldman
On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, Warner Losh wrote: In message pine.bsf.4.10.9908112337400.81521-100...@janus.syracuse.net Brian F. Feldman writes: : What do you all think about growing a gnu subdirectory in src/lib/libcompat? : Things like a getopt_long implementation (yes, if it will be accepted, : I

Re: libcompat proposition

1999-08-12 Thread Steve Kargl
Brian F. Feldman wrote: On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, Warner Losh wrote: In message pine.bsf.4.10.9908112337400.81521-100...@janus.syracuse.net Brian F. Feldman writes: : What do you all think about growing a gnu subdirectory in src/lib/libcompat? : Things like a getopt_long implementation

Re: libcompat proposition

1999-08-12 Thread Brian F. Feldman
On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Steve Kargl wrote: If you're writing unencumbered code, placing it under libcompat/gnu may lead to confusion because all other directory paths containing gnu contain GPL'd code. Just stick it into libcompat. That doesn't fit with the current organization. Choose:

Re: libcompat proposition

1999-08-12 Thread Warner Losh
In message 199908121632.jaa26...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu Steve Kargl writes: : If you're writing unencumbered code, placing it under : libcompat/gnu may lead to confusion because all other : directory paths containing gnu contain GPL'd code. : Just stick it into libcompat. Or libiberty :-)

Re: libcompat proposition

1999-08-12 Thread Bill Fumerola
On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Warner Losh wrote: I hate the GPL. It has too many different interpretations. Look at the currentsituation with Linux: Linus says loadable drivers in Linux aren't covered by the GPL, while Stallman insists that they are. Its interpretation is open to too many variables

Re: libcompat proposition

1999-08-12 Thread Steve Kargl
Brian F. Feldman wrote: On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Steve Kargl wrote: If you're writing unencumbered code, placing it under libcompat/gnu may lead to confusion because all other directory paths containing gnu contain GPL'd code. Just stick it into libcompat. That doesn't fit with the

Re: libcompat proposition

1999-08-12 Thread Brian F. Feldman
On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Steve Kargl wrote: That doesn't fit with the current organization. Choose: a. fsf b. gnu c. glibc d. other src/lib/libcompat/{fsf,gnu,glibc} connotes GPL code. src/lib/libcompat/other allows SysV, Solaris, Linux, etc. compatibility

Re: libcompat proposition

1999-08-12 Thread Warner Losh
In message pine.bsf.4.10.9908121417340.94208-100...@janus.syracuse.net Brian F. Feldman writes: : There : is simply no reason to assume that anything under a gnu directory is GPLd, : or that anything GPLd is going to be under a gnu directory (which it's not.) I'm afraid there is. It has been

Re: libcompat proposition

1999-08-12 Thread Nate Williams
: There : is simply no reason to assume that anything under a gnu directory is GPLd, : or that anything GPLd is going to be under a gnu directory (which it's not.) I'm afraid there is. It has been stated many times in the past that all GPL'd software resides under gnu. This is true in the

Re: libcompat proposition

1999-08-12 Thread Ben Rosengart
On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Steve Kargl wrote: Brian F. Feldman wrote: If you're writing unencumbered code, placing it under libcompat/gnu may lead to confusion because all other directory paths containing gnu contain GPL'd code. Just stick it into libcompat. How about libcompat/gnuish? (Funny,

Re: libcompat proposition

1999-08-12 Thread Tim Vanderhoek
On Thu, Aug 12, 1999 at 02:21:11PM -0400, Brian F. Feldman wrote: I don't care if most of the directories called gnu in the current tree contain GPLd code. How I had to read your message about 4 or 5 times before I realized that Oh, the ``gnu'' in

Re: libcompat proposition

1999-08-12 Thread Jamie Howard
On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Tim Vanderhoek wrote: src/lib/libgnucompat seems to be the best suggestion so far. I wonder where the line between libgnucompat and libfreebsdextension is, though. I've only been active here a few weeks but I've grown used to the go ahead and do it I know I'm about to

Re: libcompat proposition

1999-08-12 Thread Brian F. Feldman
On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Tim Vanderhoek wrote: On Thu, Aug 12, 1999 at 02:21:11PM -0400, Brian F. Feldman wrote: I don't care if most of the directories called gnu in the current tree contain GPLd code. How I had to read your message about 4 or 5

libcompat proposition

1999-08-11 Thread Brian F. Feldman
What do you all think about growing a gnu subdirectory in src/lib/libcompat? Things like a getopt_long implementation (yes, if it will be accepted, I am volunteering to write it...) would go there, and all sorts of lame GNU libc cruft that we can try to be more compatible with. Brian

RE: libcompat proposition

1999-08-11 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On 12-Aug-99 Brian F. Feldman wrote: What do you all think about growing a gnu subdirectory in src/lib/libcompat? Things like a getopt_long implementation (yes, if it will be accepted, I am volunteering to write it...) would go there, and all sorts of lame GNU libc cruft that we can try

Re: libcompat proposition

1999-08-11 Thread Chris Costello
On Wed, Aug 11, 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote: What do you all think about growing a gnu subdirectory in src/lib/libcompat? Things like a getopt_long implementation (yes, if it will be accepted, I am volunteering to write it...) would go there, and all sorts of lame GNU libc cruft that we can

Re: libcompat proposition

1999-08-11 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Brian F. Feldman" writes: : What do you all think about growing a gnu subdirectory in src/lib/libcompat? : Things like a getopt_long implementation (yes, if it will be accepted, : I am volunteering to write it...) would go there, and all sorts of lame : GNU libc

libcompat proposition

1999-08-11 Thread Brian F. Feldman
What do you all think about growing a gnu subdirectory in src/lib/libcompat? Things like a getopt_long implementation (yes, if it will be accepted, I am volunteering to write it...) would go there, and all sorts of lame GNU libc cruft that we can try to be more compatible with. Brian Fundakowski

RE: libcompat proposition

1999-08-11 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On 12-Aug-99 Brian F. Feldman wrote: What do you all think about growing a gnu subdirectory in src/lib/libcompat? Things like a getopt_long implementation (yes, if it will be accepted, I am volunteering to write it...) would go there, and all sorts of lame GNU libc cruft that we can try

Re: libcompat proposition

1999-08-11 Thread Chris Costello
On Wed, Aug 11, 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote: What do you all think about growing a gnu subdirectory in src/lib/libcompat? Things like a getopt_long implementation (yes, if it will be accepted, I am volunteering to write it...) would go there, and all sorts of lame GNU libc cruft that we can

Re: libcompat proposition

1999-08-11 Thread Warner Losh
In message pine.bsf.4.10.9908112337400.81521-100...@janus.syracuse.net Brian F. Feldman writes: : What do you all think about growing a gnu subdirectory in src/lib/libcompat? : Things like a getopt_long implementation (yes, if it will be accepted, : I am volunteering to write it...) would go