Re: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?

2002-06-18 Thread Morsal Rodbay
On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 08:38:23PM -0400, Chad Leigh -- Shire. Net LLC wrote: On Thursday, May 30, 2002, at 08:31 , Morsal Rodbay wrote: I recenetly bought an Athlon XP 1800+... and it turned out that it wouldnt run XFree. Everything worked well besides X. Since a workstation

Re: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?

2002-06-18 Thread Morsal Rodbay
Someone mentioned this MTRR problem earlier, I even tried a patch but it was unsuccessful. I think I'll make a new try with FreeBSD 4.6, maybe things will be more successful then. On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 05:53:07PM -0700, Jordan K Hubbard wrote: I'll bet you wouldn't have any trouble running

Re: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?

2002-06-18 Thread Morsal Rodbay
On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 09:16:25PM -0400, Scott wrote: At 10:26 2002/05/31 +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: On Friday, 31 May 2002 at 2:31:32 +0200, Morsal Rodbay wrote: I recenetly bought an Athlon XP 1800+... and it turned out that it wouldnt run XFree. Everything worked well besides

Re: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?

2002-06-18 Thread Morsal Rodbay
On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 05:24:38PM -0400, Scott Robbins wrote: On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 10:17:57PM +0200, Morsal Rodbay wrote: Someone mentioned this MTRR problem earlier, I even tried a patch but it was unsuccessful. I think I'll make a new try with FreeBSD 4.6, maybe things will be more

Re: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?

2002-05-30 Thread Morsal Rodbay
I recenetly bought an Athlon XP 1800+... and it turned out that it wouldnt run XFree. Everything worked well besides X. Since a workstation without X is useless I was forced to switch to WinXP and it's very stable so there is nothing wrong with the hardware which means it's a FreeBSD issue. To

Re: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?

2002-05-30 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire . Net LLC
On Thursday, May 30, 2002, at 08:31 , Morsal Rodbay wrote: I recenetly bought an Athlon XP 1800+... and it turned out that it wouldnt run XFree. Everything worked well besides X. Since a workstation without X is useless I was forced to switch to WinXP and it's very stable so there is

Re: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?

2002-05-30 Thread Frank Mayhar
Morsal Rodbay wrote: I recenetly bought an Athlon XP 1800+... and it turned out that it wouldnt run XFree. Everything worked well besides X. Since a workstation without X is useless I was forced to switch to WinXP and it's very stable so there is nothing wrong with the hardware which means

Re: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?

2002-05-30 Thread Larry Rosenman
On Thu, 2002-05-30 at 19:31, Morsal Rodbay wrote: I recenetly bought an Athlon XP 1800+... and it turned out that it wouldnt run XFree. Everything worked well besides X. Since a workstation without X is useless I was forced to switch to WinXP and it's very stable so there is nothing wrong

Re: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?

2002-05-30 Thread Jordan K Hubbard
I'll bet you wouldn't have any trouble running -stable on it. There was a problem with MTRR support which still needs a little fixing in order to shut down properly but that's nowhere near as bad as X not running. Fix should be in FreeBSD 4.6 as well. - Jordan On Thursday, May 30, 2002, at

Re: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?

2002-05-30 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Friday, 31 May 2002 at 2:31:32 +0200, Morsal Rodbay wrote: I recenetly bought an Athlon XP 1800+... and it turned out that it wouldnt run XFree. Everything worked well besides X. Since a workstation without X is useless I was forced to switch to WinXP and it's very stable so there is

Re: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?

2002-05-30 Thread Terry Lambert
Morsal Rodbay wrote: I recenetly bought an Athlon XP 1800+... and it turned out that it wouldnt run XFree. Everything worked well besides X. Since a workstation without X is useless I was forced to switch to WinXP and it's very stable so there is nothing wrong with the hardware which means

Re: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?

2002-05-30 Thread Scott
At 10:26 2002/05/31 +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: On Friday, 31 May 2002 at 2:31:32 +0200, Morsal Rodbay wrote: I recenetly bought an Athlon XP 1800+... and it turned out that it wouldnt run XFree. Everything worked well besides X. Since a workstation without X is useless I was forced

Re: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?

2002-05-30 Thread Darren Pilgrim
Jordan K Hubbard wrote: I'll bet you wouldn't have any trouble running -stable on it. There was a problem with MTRR support which still needs a little fixing in order to shut down properly but that's nowhere near as bad as X not running. Fix should be in FreeBSD 4.6 as well. The MTRR

Re: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?

2002-05-30 Thread Jordan K Hubbard
I haven't read the AMD errata docs so I can't comment on that, but it appears to be an issue with AMD CPUs and certain support chipsets, I believe the early VIAs. Reading the cvs logs for the MTRR support code will certainly yield more detailed information (and author attribution) than I've

Re: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?

2002-05-30 Thread .
Frank Mayhar writes: Morsal Rodbay wrote: I recenetly bought an Athlon XP 1800+... and it turned out that it wouldnt run XFree. Everything worked well besides X. Since a workstation without X is useless I was forced to switch to WinXP and it's very stable so there is nothing wrong with

RE: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?

2002-01-05 Thread C J Michaels
Lehey Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 2:40 AM To: FreeBSD Questions; FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors? I've been using AMD processors almost exclusively in my main work machines for over 4 years, and I've been very happy with them. I'm currently running

Re: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?

2001-12-28 Thread Nils Holland
On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 06:10:09PM +1030, Greg Lehey stood up and spoke: I've been using AMD processors almost exclusively in my main work machines for over 4 years, and I've been very happy with them. I'm currently running a K6/233, a K6/333, an Athlon 750, a Duron 850 and an Athlon XP

Re: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?

2001-12-28 Thread Søren Schmidt
It seems Greg Lehey wrote: Information that could be interesting is (here my values): Processor:AMD Duron 850 Motherboard: ECS K7VZA Memory: 1 128 MB SIMM, 100 MHz. What FreeBSD version are you using ? I have put a fix for the 686b southbridge bug in -current, but it is

Re: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?

2001-12-28 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 06:10:09PM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: I've been using AMD processors almost exclusively in my main work machines for over 4 years, and I've been very happy with them. I'm currently running a K6/233, a K6/333, an Athlon 750, a Duron 850 and an Athlon XP 1700. Last

Re: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?

2001-12-28 Thread Doug Reynolds
On Fri, 28 Dec 2001 11:57:44 +0100, Nils Holland wrote: Now, I have found a lot of similar stories on the web. I guess some mainboard manufacturer's (and even VIA as a chipset manufacturer) seem to care very little about quality assurance. That's actually sad: AMD's best processors aren't worth

Re: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?

2001-12-28 Thread Keith Simonsen
Greg, Do not forget to check your power supply make/model. If you search on google for AMD's recommended hardware list, double check you're power supply is listed for your cpu. I had the unfortunate experience of having a power supply explode and catch on fire, because I read the model number

Re: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?

2001-12-28 Thread Glenn Johnson
On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 06:10:09PM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: I've been using AMD processors almost exclusively in my main work machines for over 4 years, and I've been very happy with them. I'm currently running a K6/233, a K6/333, an Athlon 750, a Duron 850 and an Athlon XP 1700. Last

Re: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?

2001-12-28 Thread Munish Chopra
On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 06:10:09PM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: I've been using AMD processors almost exclusively in my main work machines for over 4 years, and I've been very happy with them. I'm currently running a K6/233, a K6/333, an Athlon 750, a Duron 850 and an Athlon XP 1700. Last

Re: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?

2001-12-28 Thread Kent Stewart
Munish Chopra wrote: On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 06:10:09PM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: I've been using AMD processors almost exclusively in my main work machines for over 4 years, and I've been very happy with them. I'm currently running a K6/233, a K6/333, an Athlon 750, a Duron 850 and an

Re: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?

2001-12-28 Thread Nils Holland
On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 02:46:12PM -0600, Glenn Johnson stood up and spoke: As far as I can tell though if I set the memory clock to 100MHz the problem goes away completely, or at least I have not observed it happen yet. So it's PC133 RAM but only works properly at 100 Mhz? Well, I guess I

Re: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?

2001-12-28 Thread Søren Schmidt
It seems Glenn Johnson wrote: I have had this exact problem. I have an Epox 8KTA board with a 1GHz Athlon (Thunderbird) with 256MB of PC-133 memory. I would consistently get random errors, usually during a compilation, using the default BIOS settings. After fiddling with some of the BIOS

Re: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?

2001-12-28 Thread Nils Holland
On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 11:12:40PM +0100, Søren Schmidt stood up and spoke: From what I can tell the newest Epox BIOS for the 8kta3 does *not* install the 686b fix when it doesn't detect a SBLive! sound card, nice but not good enough :/ There are many information on the 686B bug available

Re: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?

2001-12-28 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 02:46:12PM -0600, Glenn Johnson wrote: On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 06:10:09PM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: I've been using AMD processors almost exclusively in my main work machines for over 4 years, and I've been very happy with them. I'm currently running a K6/233, a

Re: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?

2001-12-28 Thread Glenn Johnson
On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 11:12:40PM +0100, Søren Schmidt wrote: It seems Glenn Johnson wrote: I have had this exact problem. I have an Epox 8KTA board with a 1GHz Athlon (Thunderbird) with 256MB of PC-133 memory. I would consistently get random errors, usually during a compilation,

Re: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?

2001-12-28 Thread Doug Reynolds
On Fri, 28 Dec 2001 22:47:58 +0100, Nils Holland wrote: On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 02:46:12PM -0600, Glenn Johnson stood up and spoke: As far as I can tell though if I set the memory clock to 100MHz the problem goes away completely, or at least I have not observed it happen yet. So it's PC133

Re: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?

2001-12-28 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 28 December 2001 at 13:23:50 +0100, Søren Schmidt wrote: It seems Greg Lehey wrote: Information that could be interesting is (here my values): Processor:AMD Duron 850 Motherboard: ECS K7VZA Memory:1 128 MB SIMM, 100 MHz. What FreeBSD version are you using ? I

Re: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?

2001-12-28 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 28 December 2001 at 6:21:04 -0800, Keith Simonsen wrote: Greg, Do not forget to check your power supply make/model. If you search on google for AMD's recommended hardware list, double check you're power supply is listed for your cpu. This wouldn't explain why it works fine under

Re: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?

2001-12-28 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 28 December 2001 at 14:46:12 -0600, Glenn Johnson wrote: On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 06:10:09PM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: I've been using AMD processors almost exclusively in my main work machines for over 4 years, and I've been very happy with them. I'm currently running a K6/233, a

Re: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?

2001-12-28 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 28 December 2001 at 23:12:40 +0100, Søren Schmidt wrote: It seems Glenn Johnson wrote: It is really hard for me to say if this is FreeBSD specific because I do not tend to stress the system much when I have Linux running. My wife has an identical system running Windows 98SE and

Re: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?

2001-12-28 Thread Mike Silbersack
On Sat, 29 Dec 2001, Greg Lehey wrote: This is a Duron, so it has a 100 MHz memory clock anyway. Greg Not necessarily; athlons durons use ddr clocking, so the processors are 200 or 266, effectively. Most motherboards let you set the memory bus to either 100 or 133, independent of

Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors?

2001-12-27 Thread Greg Lehey
I've been using AMD processors almost exclusively in my main work machines for over 4 years, and I've been very happy with them. I'm currently running a K6/233, a K6/333, an Athlon 750, a Duron 850 and an Athlon XP 1700. Last August, though, I bought a machine which gave me a lot of trouble,