Re: Why not gzip iso images?

2000-03-18 Thread Oliver Fromme
Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in list.freebsd-hackers: At this point, I'd just like to see the iso available, I don't care if it is compressed or not. :P If you can't wait for the "official" one, you can download the ISO that I've built for the local university. It's available from

Re: Why not gzip iso images?

2000-03-17 Thread Andy
"Daniel C. Sobral" wrote: At this point, I'd just like to see the iso available, I don't care if it is compressed or not. :P To ALL PEOPLE complaining about the size: -- | Andy | e-mail | web | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.lewman.com | You will

Re: Why not gzip iso images?

2000-03-16 Thread Paul Robinson
On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Sheldon Hearn wrote: No, you're not reading the thread properly. Someone else (who doesn't have the same bandwidth limitations that you and I do) said it doesn't compress well. Ok, fair enough. My stance was that some compression was better than no compression, but I'll

Why not gzip iso images?

2000-03-15 Thread Arnout Boer
After reading the announcement... Congratulations to the FreeBSD community another milestone! A great OS... But for the ISO images... IS it a problem to gzip them They take less space on the master site and the mirror sites and they take less bandwidth! Shouldn't be a problem I think!

Re: Why not gzip iso images?

2000-03-15 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:42:11 +0100, Arnout Boer wrote: But for the ISO images... IS it a problem to gzip them Well, I can think of at least one problem. Think of the extra disk space folks would need for the gunzip step. :-) They take less space on the master site and the mirror

Re: Why not gzip iso images?

2000-03-15 Thread Luigi Rizzo
On Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:42:11 +0100, Arnout Boer wrote: But for the ISO images... IS it a problem to gzip them Well, I can think of at least one problem. Think of the extra disk space folks would need for the gunzip step. :-) and compression ratio would not be that much. The

Re: Why not gzip iso images?

2000-03-15 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Luigi Rizzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [000315 05:34] wrote: On Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:42:11 +0100, Arnout Boer wrote: But for the ISO images... IS it a problem to gzip them Well, I can think of at least one problem. Think of the extra disk space folks would need for the gunzip

Re: Why not gzip iso images?

2000-03-15 Thread Paul Robinson
On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Alfred Perlstein wrote: And not that much even with that: -rw-r--r-- 1 bright staff 647815168 Dec 28 19:23 3.4-install.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 bright staff 625839147 Dec 28 19:23 3.4-install.iso.gz I never thought I'd see the day that when considering sizes of downloads

Re: Why not gzip iso images?

2000-03-15 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:43:27 GMT, Paul Robinson wrote: If you save 20Mb, over a reliable 56Kb modem, you've saved them somewhere in the region of one and a half hours... I think you guys are too used to your broadband... :) And you're forgetting that, as I said in my original reply, people

Re: Why not gzip iso images?

2000-03-15 Thread Paul Robinson
On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Sheldon Hearn wrote: And you're forgetting that, as I said in my original reply, people with 56K modems usually benefit from hardware compression over their link anyway. But you're defeated by your own argument, as according to you the image doesn't compress very well,

Re: Why not gzip iso images?

2000-03-15 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:55:14 GMT, Paul Robinson wrote: But you're defeated by your own argument, as according to you the image doesn't compress very well No, you're not reading the thread properly. Someone else (who doesn't have the same bandwidth limitations that you and I do) said it

Re: Why not gzip iso images?

2000-03-15 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Paul Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [000315 06:14] wrote: On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Alfred Perlstein wrote: And not that much even with that: -rw-r--r-- 1 bright staff 647815168 Dec 28 19:23 3.4-install.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 bright staff 625839147 Dec 28 19:23 3.4-install.iso.gz I never

RE: Why not gzip iso images?

2000-03-15 Thread Wood, Richard
-Original Message- From: Paul Robinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 March 2000 14:55 you're still leaving the guy with the modem sat there for around 45 minutes... But given that he has probably been sat there for 2.5 days already, is that a major problem? Rich -- Rich

Re: Why not gzip iso images?

2000-03-15 Thread andrew
On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Alfred Perlstein wrote: Seriously though, there's no reason not to have the ISOs up in compressed format though. I guess given a choice between _only_ compressed or _only_ uncompressed I think uncompressed is better, but if the space is available it would be nice to

Re: Why not gzip iso images?

2000-03-15 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven
-On [2315 15:35], [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Alfred Perlstein wrote: Seriously though, there's no reason not to have the ISOs up in compressed format though. I guess given a choice between _only_ compressed or _only_ uncompressed I think

Re: Why not gzip iso images?

2000-03-15 Thread Peter Edwards
Paul Robinson wrote: I think this saving shows a little respect and concern for the less fortunate home user stuck with a 56K modem paying $x/hour where x can be anywhere between 0.5 and 5... Sorry, can't resist. Given (my) local call rates, if I started downloading the 3.4 ISO image and did

Re: Why not gzip iso images?

2000-03-15 Thread Victor Ivanov
On Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:43:27 GMT, Paul Robinson wrote: If you save 20Mb, over a reliable 56Kb modem, you've saved them somewhere in the region of one and a half hours... I think you guys are too used to your broadband... :) And you're forgetting that, as I said in my original

That's why [Re: Why not gzip iso images?]

2000-03-15 Thread Victor Ivanov
* Paul Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [000315 06:14] wrote: [snip snip] ~ % ftp ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/release/i386/ISO-IMAGES/ Connected to wizard.freesoftware.com. ... ftp get 3.4-install.iso local: 3.4-install.iso remote: 3.4-install.iso 227 Entering Passive Mode

Re: Why not gzip iso images?

2000-03-15 Thread Donn Miller
Arnout Boer wrote: But for the ISO images... IS it a problem to gzip them They take less space on the master site and the mirror sites and they take less bandwidth! But, how much would the ISO be able to be compressed? The source is already a split, compressed tarball, for example...

Re: Why not gzip iso images?

2000-03-15 Thread Eric D. Futch
I think people are forgetting that you do not necessarily need to download the entire ISO image in order to make a fresh install of FreeBSD. Back when I started using FreeBSD somewhere around version 2.1, I remember donwloading the boot floppies, then installing the whole deal over FTP, all on a

Re: Why not gzip iso images?

2000-03-15 Thread Leif Neland
- Original Message - From: "Eric D. Futch" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 8:58 PM Subject: Re: Why not gzip iso images? I think people are forgetting that you do not necessarily need to download the entire ISO image in order to ma

Re: Why not gzip iso images?

2000-03-15 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
Can I step in here for a moment? I'm not going to gzip the ISO images. Please just live with it. End of discussion. :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: Why not gzip iso images?

2000-03-15 Thread Patryk Zadarnowski
On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Sheldon Hearn wrote: And you're forgetting that, as I said in my original reply, people with 56K modems usually benefit from hardware compression over their link anyway. But you're defeated by your own argument, as according to you the image doesn't compress very