Re: StrongARM support?

2001-01-07 Thread Jordan Hubbard
I'm definitely interested in both StrongARM and PPC. (and so are very many people) My understanding is that FreeBSD *wants* a FreeBSD/ARM, but lack the resources/man-power to do so. I'd prefer to see an official decision on the above by someone (hint hint -core :)) though. I don't think

Re: StrongARM support? (was also: Group for porting to other proccessor families)

2001-01-07 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 8 January 2001 at 0:22:01 +0800, Kathy Quinlan wrote: Hi all Is their a group of FreeBSD Enthusiasts that are working on porting free to embedded controllers that are not x86 I am in the process of developing a security / access / building management system, and am looking at

Re: StrongARM support?

2000-12-24 Thread Jonathan M. Bresler
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Re: StrongARM support?

2000-12-20 Thread Michael C . Wu
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 08:59:11AM +0100, Thomas Runge scribbled: | On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Michael C . Wu wrote: | | many people) My understanding is that FreeBSD *wants* a FreeBSD/ARM, | but lack the resources/man-power to do so. I'd prefer to see an | | There is a german saying "Schuster,

Re: StrongARM support?

2000-12-20 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 10:26:01PM -0800, Devin Butterfield wrote: I don't think that "everyone" had reached any such agreement. It would seem to me that there is sufficient interest in FreeBSD/StrongARM that There is more than sufficient *interest* in FreeBSD/sparc, but that hasn't gotten

Re: StrongARM support?

2000-12-20 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Michael C . Wu" writes: : It was my understanding from BSDCon2000 that we are targeting : more platforms. It is my sense of core that core would support new architectures if they make sense. To make sense, the architecutre must be widely deployed (or about to be

Re: StrongARM support?

2000-12-19 Thread Michael C . Wu
On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 04:14:10PM -0800, Devin Butterfield scribbled: | "Michael C . Wu" wrote: | The most important decision now would be: | Should we concentrate on the PPC port first? Or should we go at each | port simultaneously? | | Well, if there are enough people with PCC's that are

Re: StrongARM support?

2000-12-19 Thread Paul Becke
I have been working for several months to port NetBSD to a new StrongArm platform. I currently am using the Intel Assabet as my development platform. Based on my experience with NetBSD, I think that I could be of assistance in initiating a FreeBSD port. I actually do most of my development

Re: StrongARM support?

2000-12-19 Thread Patrick Gardella
"Michael C . Wu" wrote: On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 04:14:10PM -0800, Devin Butterfield scribbled: | "Michael C . Wu" wrote: | The most important decision now would be: | Should we concentrate on the PPC port first? Or should we go at each | port simultaneously? | | Well, if there are

Re: StrongARM support?

2000-12-19 Thread Patrick Gardella
Paul Becke wrote: What does it take to start up a new mailing list for proting to the Arm? (Who do I need to contact?) Jonathan Bressler is our postmaster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). I've added him to this message in hopes that he sees this. I haven't seen much of him lately... Course, it's

Re: StrongARM support?

2000-12-19 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 03:12:35PM -0600, Michael C . Wu wrote: I would be quite interested. But do we have the resouces and the man-hours to handle IA-64/KA-64/PPC/Alpha/StrongARM at the same time? Agreed. Perhaps the first step would be to start a [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list? Then

Re: StrongARM support?

2000-12-19 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 04:14:10PM -0800, Devin Butterfield wrote: Well, if there are enough people with PCC's that are interested in helping with the effort then perhaps pursuing the PPC port first would make more sense. I don't have a PPC so I couldn't help out there... There is a PowerPC

Re: StrongARM support?

2000-12-19 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 12:56:58PM -0600, Michael C . Wu wrote: many people) My understanding is that FreeBSD *wants* a FreeBSD/ARM, but lack the resources/man-power to do so. I'd prefer to see an official decision on the above by someone (hint hint -core :)) though. Why are you looking to

Re: StrongARM support?

2000-12-19 Thread Devin Butterfield
David O'Brien wrote: On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 03:12:35PM -0600, Michael C . Wu wrote: I would be quite interested. But do we have the resouces and the man-hours to handle IA-64/KA-64/PPC/Alpha/StrongARM at the same time? Agreed. Perhaps the first step would be to start a [EMAIL

Re: StrongARM support?

2000-12-19 Thread Thomas Runge
On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Michael C . Wu wrote: many people) My understanding is that FreeBSD *wants* a FreeBSD/ARM, but lack the resources/man-power to do so. I'd prefer to see an There is a german saying "Schuster, bleib bei Deinen Leisten", which means something like "Only do, what you are

Re: StrongARM support?

2000-12-18 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Michael C . Wu" writes: : IIRC, NetBSD doesn't have the newer StrongARM SA-11xx ports. : And that's why we have to work from ARM/Linux. In conversations that I had with an unnamed vendor a while ago, the newer parts should be just a few days of casual effort to

Re: StrongARM support?

2000-12-18 Thread Robert Swindells
Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Michael C . Wu" writes: : IIRC, NetBSD doesn't have the newer StrongARM SA-11xx ports. : And that's why we have to work from ARM/Linux. In conversations that I had with an unnamed vendor a while ago, the newer parts should be just a few days of

Re: StrongARM support?

2000-12-18 Thread Michael C . Wu
On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 02:19:02PM -0700, Warner Losh scribbled: | In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Michael C | . Wu" writes: | : IIRC, NetBSD doesn't have the newer StrongARM SA-11xx ports. | : And that's why we have to work from ARM/Linux. | | In conversations that I had with an unnamed vendor a

Re: StrongARM support?

2000-12-18 Thread Devin Butterfield
"Michael C . Wu" wrote: [sent to -small too] I would be quite interested. But do we have the resouces and the man-hours to handle IA-64/KA-64/PPC/Alpha/StrongARM at the same time? I am very interested in the PPC and StrongARM port, but there are so few of us on -ppc... Perhaps the

Re: StrongARM support?

2000-12-18 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Michael C . Wu" writes: : Do you use the gcc embedded optimizations? No. Not directly. My install script assumes that : | which lets you tweak things to year heart's delight. Every time I go : | to put this script up, I run into the "oh, but I want it to do X Y

Re: StrongARM support?

2000-12-18 Thread Michael C . Wu
On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 05:21:27PM -0700, Warner Losh scribbled: | In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Michael C . Wu" writes: | : Just an idea/question: | : Can we possibly use crunchgen to generate a big binary for userland tools | : only? Then we can drop in new binaries with ease. | | No. I

Re: StrongARM support?

2000-12-18 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Michael C . Wu" writes: : Would 20mb be a comfortable target for : "make buildsmallworld installsmallworld" ? The build would have to : be interactive. And the interactive build can record all the : options/choices done by the user for future builds. That :

Re: StrongARM support?

2000-12-14 Thread Robert Swindells
Devin Butterfield wrote: Is there any work in progress to support running FreeBSD on ARM processors? If not, are there any plans to? I would be very interested in helping out with such an effort. I would love to have FreeBSD running on my iPAQ PocketPC. :) There is a project to put NetBSD/arm32

Re: StrongARM support?

2000-12-14 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Robert Swindells writes: : As far as I can tell, the hpcmips kernel reuses the WinCE MMU : translations; all the arm32 ones rely on a bootloader to map RAM : to 0xf000. The hpcmips kernel doesn't do that. The hpcmips loader does that. Once the stuff is loaded

Re: StrongARM support?

2000-12-14 Thread Wes Peters
Devin Butterfield wrote: Hi all, Is there any work in progress to support running FreeBSD on ARM processors? If not, are there any plans to? I would be very interested in helping out with such an effort. I would love to have FreeBSD running on my iPAQ PocketPC. :) I know that linux is

Re: StrongARM support?

2000-12-14 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wes Peters writes: : NetBSD? They have existing ARM and "hpc" ports, this would be a merging : of the two... I didn't think that NetBSD had a hpc port. They have an hpcmips port in the tree, as well as other hpc ports not yet committed (hpcsh3 has been seen in the

Re: StrongARM support?

2000-12-13 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
There was somone looking at the NetBSD code with hungry eyes but I never heard anything more... check the archives. Pedro. Devin Butterfield wrote: Hi all, Is there any work in progress to support running FreeBSD on ARM processors? If not, are there any plans to? I would be very

Re: StrongARM support?

2000-12-13 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Pedro F. Giffuni" writes: : There was somone looking at the NetBSD code with hungry eyes but I : never heard anything more... check the archives. Last I heard, only the MIPS based PDAs were supported by NetBSD/hpcmips. I know that there are some efforts to make

Re: StrongARM support?

2000-12-13 Thread Jordan Hubbard
Is there any work in progress to support running FreeBSD on ARM processors? If not, are there any plans to? I would be very interested in helping out with such an effort. I would love to have FreeBSD running on my iPAQ PocketPC. :) No work in progress, no plans. Would you be interested in

Re: StrongARM support?

2000-12-13 Thread Devin Butterfield
Jordan Hubbard wrote: Is there any work in progress to support running FreeBSD on ARM processors? If not, are there any plans to? I would be very interested in helping out with such an effort. I would love to have FreeBSD running on my iPAQ PocketPC. :) No work in progress, no plans.