Re: Is pkg quarterly really needed?

2017-04-20 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi! > >> I understand that the main problem with quarterly branches is that they > >> start from an unstable edge and mature with time, then after three > >> months at the most mature point they are being deleted and replaced with > >> a new unstable edge. So, there is no good point of reference

Re: manpath change for ports ?

2017-04-20 Thread Mathieu Arnold
Le 21/04/2017 à 00:21, Baptiste Daroussin a écrit : > On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 12:18:53AM +0200, Mathieu Arnold wrote: >> Le 21/04/2017 à 00:16, Baptiste Daroussin a écrit : >>> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 12:13:52AM +0200, Mathieu Arnold wrote: Le 20/04/2017 à 23:21, Baptiste Daroussin a écrit :

Re: manpath change for ports ?

2017-04-20 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 12:18:53AM +0200, Mathieu Arnold wrote: > Le 21/04/2017 à 00:16, Baptiste Daroussin a écrit : > > On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 12:13:52AM +0200, Mathieu Arnold wrote: > >> Le 20/04/2017 à 23:21, Baptiste Daroussin a écrit : > >>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 11:18:14PM +0200, Koop

Re: manpath change for ports ?

2017-04-20 Thread Mathieu Arnold
Le 21/04/2017 à 00:16, Baptiste Daroussin a écrit : > On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 12:13:52AM +0200, Mathieu Arnold wrote: >> Le 20/04/2017 à 23:21, Baptiste Daroussin a écrit : >>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 11:18:14PM +0200, Koop Mast wrote: On Tue, 2017-03-07 at 00:56 +0100, Baptiste Daroussin

Re: manpath change for ports ?

2017-04-20 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 12:13:52AM +0200, Mathieu Arnold wrote: > Le 20/04/2017 à 23:21, Baptiste Daroussin a écrit : > > On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 11:18:14PM +0200, Koop Mast wrote: > >> On Tue, 2017-03-07 at 00:56 +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> I would like to propose a

Re: manpath change for ports ?

2017-04-20 Thread Mathieu Arnold
Le 20/04/2017 à 23:21, Baptiste Daroussin a écrit : > On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 11:18:14PM +0200, Koop Mast wrote: >> On Tue, 2017-03-07 at 00:56 +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I would like to propose a change in the localbase hier for ports >>> >>> I think we should add

Re: manpath change for ports ?

2017-04-20 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 11:18:14PM +0200, Koop Mast wrote: > On Tue, 2017-03-07 at 00:56 +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I would like to propose a change in the localbase hier for ports > > > > I think we should add /usr/local/share/man in the manpath along with > > at first

Re: How to use cached packages

2017-04-20 Thread Miroslav Lachman
Freddie Cash wrote on 2017/04/20 22:39: On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Miroslav Lachman <000.f...@quip.cz >wrote: Freddie Cash wrote on 2017/04/20 22:17: On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Patrick Powell

Re: Is pkg quarterly really needed?

2017-04-20 Thread Grzegorz Junka
Hi :) On 20/04/2017 19:57, Kurt Jaeger wrote: Hi! I understand that the main problem with quarterly branches is that they start from an unstable edge and mature with time, then after three months at the most mature point they are being deleted and replaced with a new unstable edge. So, there

Re: manpath change for ports ?

2017-04-20 Thread Koop Mast
On Tue, 2017-03-07 at 00:56 +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > Hi all, > > I would like to propose a change in the localbase hier for ports > > I think we should add /usr/local/share/man in the manpath along with > at first > and maybe instead of in long term. > > The reason is: > -

Re: How to use cached packages

2017-04-20 Thread Freddie Cash
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Miroslav Lachman <000.f...@quip.cz> wrote: > Freddie Cash wrote on 2017/04/20 22:17: > >> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Patrick Powell >> wrote: >> >> I ran into a problem where I needed to reinstall a package. However, I >>> did not

Re: How to use cached packages

2017-04-20 Thread Miroslav Lachman
Freddie Cash wrote on 2017/04/20 22:17: On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Patrick Powell wrote: I ran into a problem where I needed to reinstall a package. However, I did not have network access to the pkg repository. I did have a system which had all of the pkgs which

Re: net-mgmt/prometheus update to 1.6.0, comitter requested

2017-04-20 Thread Jev Björsell
Great, thank you! Any feedback on port structure is welcome by me :) -Jev On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 11:43 AM Larry Rosenman wrote: > Indeed. I’m working with my Mentor (adamw@, and swills@(of portmgr@)) > and they had the issue with unknown. > > > > I’ll get this done. ☺ > > >

Re: How to use cached packages

2017-04-20 Thread Freddie Cash
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Patrick Powell wrote: > I ran into a problem where I needed to reinstall a package. However, I > did not have network access to the pkg repository. I did have a system > which had all of the pkgs which I needed in the pkg cache. I can

Re: Is pkg quarterly really needed?

2017-04-20 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi! > I understand that the main problem with quarterly branches is that they > start from an unstable edge and mature with time, then after three > months at the most mature point they are being deleted and replaced with > a new unstable edge. So, there is no good point of reference to use as

64-bit inodes (ino64) Status Update and Call for Testing

2017-04-20 Thread Konstantin Belousov
Inodes are data structures corresponding to objects in a file system, such as files and directories. FreeBSD has historically used 32-bit values to identify inodes, which limits file systems to somewhat under 2^32 objects. Many modern file systems internally use 64-bit identifiers and FreeBSD

How to use cached packages

2017-04-20 Thread Patrick Powell
I ran into a problem where I needed to reinstall a package. However, I did not have network access to the pkg repository. I did have a system which had all of the pkgs which I needed in the pkg cache. I can easily copy these to the system, as well as the pkg database, etc. So: is there a

Re: Is pkg quarterly really needed?

2017-04-20 Thread Grzegorz Junka
On 20/04/2017 17:11, Kurt Jaeger wrote: Hi! Fine, but would that be a good approach? Doesn't it look more like a process change than a code change? For me, it does not look like a process-change only. I haven't thought through all the details, I'm going with my intuition here (because

Re: net-mgmt/prometheus update to 1.6.0, comitter requested

2017-04-20 Thread Larry Rosenman
Indeed.  I’m working with my Mentor (adamw@, and swills@(of portmgr@)) and they had the issue with unknown. I’ll get this done. ☺ -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 214-642-9640 E-Mail: l...@lerctr.org US Mail: 17716 Limpia

Re: Is pkg quarterly really needed?

2017-04-20 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 02:13:52PM -0400, qjail1 wrote: > I maintain a port and I have users complaining that the pkg system takes > many months before the updated version of my port shows up in the pkg > system. > > My response is I tell them to change a line in their > /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf

Re: Re: net-mgmt/prometheus update to 1.6.0, comitter requested

2017-04-20 Thread Jev Björsell
Hi Larry, I presume you are referring the the strings 'unknown' that appear in the do-build: portion of the Makefile. These are set to 'unknown' on purpose, because we do not have a way of finding out that information unless we do it dynamically at build time. Doing dynamically is not

Is pkg quarterly really needed?

2017-04-20 Thread qjail1
I maintain a port and I have users complaining that the pkg system takes many months before the updated version of my port shows up in the pkg system. My response is I tell them to change a line in their /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf file from url: "pkg+http://pkg.Freebsd.org/${ABI}/quarterly;, to

Re: Is pkg quarterly really needed?

2017-04-20 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi! > Fine, but would that be a good approach? Doesn't it look more like a > process change than a code change? For me, it does not look like a process-change only. I haven't thought through all the details, I'm going with my intuition here (because thinking it through takes a long time). One

Re: Any hope of compiling firefox port on ARM?

2017-04-20 Thread bob prohaska
On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 12:49:37PM +0200, Dimitry Andric wrote: > How is that even possible? I committed the fix on Oct 12, 2016: > > Maybe you are seeing a different problem altogether? Perhaps. Along that line, I've submitted Bug 218782. Hope it was done correctlythe diagnostic files

Re: Is pkg quarterly really needed?

2017-04-20 Thread Grzegorz Junka
Fine, but would that be a good approach? Doesn't it look more like a process change than a code change? Surely, some code would need to be changed but then again, wouldn't that be mostly configuration? Grzegorz On 20/04/2017 08:44, Kurt Jaeger wrote: Hi! I am not sure if this is a rant in

Re: Is pkg quarterly really needed?

2017-04-20 Thread Baho Utot
On 04/20/17 07:29, Mathieu Arnold wrote: Le 20/04/2017 à 13:04, Julian Elischer a écrit : On 20/4/17 5:15 pm, Mathieu Arnold wrote: Le 20/04/2017 à 10:49, Torfinn Ingolfsen a écrit : On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 8:00 AM, Kurt Jaeger wrote: Hi! On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 1:30 AM,

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Re: iocage port

2017-04-20 Thread Vick Khera
Actually, it is not so much a suitable drop-in replacement since I would have to re-create every one of my jails within the iocell structure. I guess I'll just reproduce the old iocage port in my own local section of the ports tree. On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 8:34 AM, Vick Khera

Re: Is pkg quarterly really needed?

2017-04-20 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Miroslav Lachman wrote: It is not just about updates but about new installs too - if you have dozens of machines for customers and you need them all in the same version. Then some customer need some package not installed on his machine and you cannot run "pkg install somepackage" because

Re: iocage port

2017-04-20 Thread Vick Khera
On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 12:41 PM, Sebastian Schwarz wrote: > On 2017-04-19, Vick Khera wrote: > > Can the original iocage port be restored? > > I believe the old code has been forked and preserved under the > name iocell (https://github.com/bartekrutkowski/iocell) and is >

Re: Is pkg quarterly really needed?

2017-04-20 Thread Miroslav Lachman
Mathieu Arnold wrote on 2017/04/20 13:29: Le 20/04/2017 à 13:04, Julian Elischer a écrit : On 20/4/17 5:15 pm, Mathieu Arnold wrote: Le 20/04/2017 à 10:49, Torfinn Ingolfsen a écrit : I am not exactly sure what you are asking for, to keep the previous, not updated, quarterly package

Re: Is pkg quarterly really needed?

2017-04-20 Thread Mathieu Arnold
Le 20/04/2017 à 13:04, Julian Elischer a écrit : > On 20/4/17 5:15 pm, Mathieu Arnold wrote: >> Le 20/04/2017 à 10:49, Torfinn Ingolfsen a écrit : >>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 8:00 AM, Kurt Jaeger wrote: Hi! > On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 1:30 AM, Julian Elischer >

Re: Is pkg quarterly really needed?

2017-04-20 Thread Julian Elischer
On 20/4/17 5:18 pm, Mathieu Arnold wrote: Le 20/04/2017 à 11:15, Mathieu Arnold a écrit : Le 20/04/2017 à 10:49, Torfinn Ingolfsen a écrit : On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 8:00 AM, Kurt Jaeger wrote: Hi! On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 1:30 AM, Julian Elischer wrote:

Re: Is pkg quarterly really needed?

2017-04-20 Thread Julian Elischer
On 20/4/17 5:15 pm, Mathieu Arnold wrote: Le 20/04/2017 à 10:49, Torfinn Ingolfsen a écrit : On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 8:00 AM, Kurt Jaeger wrote: Hi! On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 1:30 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: quarterly however is broken because the pkg

Re: Writing a port that needs to download a large number of files

2017-04-20 Thread Xavi Garcia
Hi, This can be the plan B if we cannot host the builds. I will discuss with the colleagues. My concern is accessing old builds, in case we are tracking a quarterly branch for stability, because the developer is only offering builds for the latest version. Regarding the software we want to

Re: Is pkg quarterly really needed?

2017-04-20 Thread Mathieu Arnold
Le 20/04/2017 à 11:15, Mathieu Arnold a écrit : > Le 20/04/2017 à 10:49, Torfinn Ingolfsen a écrit : >> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 8:00 AM, Kurt Jaeger wrote: >>> Hi! >>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 1:30 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: > quarterly however

Re: Is pkg quarterly really needed?

2017-04-20 Thread Mathieu Arnold
Le 20/04/2017 à 10:49, Torfinn Ingolfsen a écrit : > On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 8:00 AM, Kurt Jaeger wrote: >> Hi! >> >>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 1:30 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: quarterly however is broken because the pkg mirors discard it all at the

Re: Writing a port that needs to download a large number of files

2017-04-20 Thread Dmytro Bilokha
On 20.04.2017 11:02, Xavi Garcia wrote: Hi, Hi! I'd definitely download a compiled version but the developer is hosting the builds in Amazon S3 and you need to receive a token via e-mail in order to download the files, which is awful in my opinion. I agree with you, its awful. But, I saw

Re: Is pkg quarterly really needed?

2017-04-20 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi! > >> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 1:30 AM, Julian Elischer > >> wrote: > >> > quarterly however is broken because the pkg mirors discard it all at the > >> > time of update. > >> Do they have to? > >> Why couldn't pkg mirrors keep say, the four latest quarterly sets > >> all

Re: Is pkg quarterly really needed?

2017-04-20 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 8:00 AM, Kurt Jaeger wrote: > Hi! > >> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 1:30 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: >> > quarterly however is broken because the pkg mirors discard it all at the >> > time of update. > >> Do they have to? >> Why couldn't pkg

Re: Is pkg quarterly really needed?

2017-04-20 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi! > I am not sure if this is a rant in favour or against quarterly branches. > And this discussion comes up again and again quite regularly. I wonder > why ports don't follow the development model of the FreeBSD kernel? - lack of developer time We have bapt who develops pkg. bdrewery, who

FreeBSD ports you maintain which are out of date

2017-04-20 Thread portscout
Dear port maintainer, The portscout new distfile checker has detected that one or more of your ports appears to be out of date. Please take the opportunity to check each of the ports listed below, and if possible and appropriate, submit/commit an update. If any ports have already been updated,

Re: Is pkg quarterly really needed?

2017-04-20 Thread Grzegorz Junka
On 20/04/2017 05:37, Mark Linimon wrote: I understand that having the quarterlies is not meeting your use case. You've said that. We get it. So you want some kind of running -quarterly branch. But where are the N hours of work per week to QA all the patches to the -quarterly branch, or a

Re: databases/mariadb101-client upgraded in wrong order, resulted in missing files

2017-04-20 Thread Miroslav Lachman
Bernard Spil wrote on 2017/04/19 21:32: On 2017-04-18 21:45, Miroslav Lachman wrote: Miroslav Lachman wrote on 2017/03/31 15:31: I don't know if it was "pkg" fault or mariadb101-server and mariadb101-client conflict. I did standard "pkg upgrade" and at the end I have half files of

Re: databases/mariadb101-client upgraded in wrong order, resulted in missing files

2017-04-20 Thread Miroslav Lachman
scratch65...@att.net wrote on 2017/04/19 17:55: [Default] On Wed, 19 Apr 2017 14:52:56 +0200, Miroslav Lachman <000.f...@quip.cz> wrote: I tried it on next machine with pkg upgrade -f but the result is the same: pkg check -Ba Checking all packages (p5-DBD-mysql-4.042)

Re: Writing a port that needs to download a large number of files

2017-04-20 Thread Xavi Garcia
Hi, I'd definitely download a compiled version but the developer is hosting the builds in Amazon S3 and you need to receive a token via e-mail in order to download the files, which is awful in my opinion. The other option is to compile my own builds and host them somewhere in the Internet.

Re: Is pkg quarterly really needed?

2017-04-20 Thread Michael Gmelin
On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 00:37:22 -0500 Mark Linimon wrote: > I understand that having the quarterlies is not meeting your use case. > You've said that. We get it. > > So you want some kind of running -quarterly branch. > > But where are the N hours of work per week to QA all

Re: Is pkg quarterly really needed?

2017-04-20 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017, at 06:22 AM, Mark Linimon wrote: > On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 04:37:05PM -0400, scratch65...@att.net wrote: > > (Right now, it's quite hard to resist the paranoid suspicion that > > maybe this crazy, anti-real-user behavior is a subtle way to kill > > freebsd altogether by

Re: Is pkg quarterly really needed?

2017-04-20 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On Tue, Apr 18, 2017, at 02:54 PM, qjail1 wrote: > I maintain a port and I have users complaining that the pkg system takes > many months before the updated version of my port shows up in the pkg > system. > > My response is I tell them to change a line in their > /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf file >

Re: Is pkg quarterly really needed?

2017-04-20 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi! > On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 1:30 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: > > quarterly however is broken because the pkg mirors discard it all at the > > time of update. > Do they have to? > Why couldn't pkg mirrors keep say, the four latest quarterly sets > all the time? Because the