On 25 May 2013 15:24, Chris Rees cr...@freebsd.org wrote:
On 25 May 2013 11:54, Niclas Zeising zeising+free...@daemonic.se wrote:
On 05/25/13 10:50, Chris Rees wrote:
Alternatively, perhaps we need an editors/vim-options port
Just for the record, editors/vim was (and shells/bash)
On 06/07/2013 12:56 PM, David O'Brien wrote:
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 09:50:50AM +0100, Chris Rees wrote:
For years, people have been begging him to get over his fear of
OPTIONS, and he sits in the way of progress against almost everyone's
wishes.
It's funny -- it's not just my fear of
On 7 June 2013 19:56, David O'Brien obr...@freebsd.org wrote:
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 09:50:50AM +0100, Chris Rees wrote:
For years, people have been begging him to get over his fear of
OPTIONS, and he sits in the way of progress against almost everyone's
wishes.
It's funny -- it's not just
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 09:50:50AM +0100, Chris Rees wrote:
For years, people have been begging him to get over his fear of
OPTIONS, and he sits in the way of progress against almost everyone's
wishes.
It's funny -- it's not just my fear of options -- every FreeBSD using
co-worker I talk to
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 05:23:18PM -0400, Kenta Suzumoto wrote:
- It fetches almost 700 patches from what seems like a dial-up
connection in AUSTRALIA.
You might as well be downloading a 1080p movie from a rock in the north
pole, because that's about how fast it is.
This can be very easily
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:05 AM, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Mon, 27 May 2013 22:33:53 +0200
John Marino wrote:
On 5/27/2013 22:09, RW wrote:
On Mon, 27 May 2013 20:38:11 +0200
John Marino wrote:
No, that's something you just made up. It is however vague and
anecdotal.
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote:
On 28 May 2013 06:08, Jeremy Messenger mezz.free...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 3:50 AM, Chris Rees cr...@freebsd.org wrote:
On 24 May 2013 22:23, Kenta Suzumoto ken...@hush.com wrote:
Hello all. The
On 5/29/2013 21:28, Jeremy Messenger wrote:
Fix the OPTIONS first and I will accept it in my ports. Pretty simple.
Since I don't like OPTIONS, so I am not required to fix it. If you do
really want OPTIONS to be added in my port then please fix it.
Although, I have lost in track of which bugs
On 5/28/2013 02:44, Martin Wilke wrote:
On the first note, complain about the patches to the upstream, not to us. This
patches problem has been around since forever and so long the upstream
is not changing anything about it, nor do we.
Hi Martin,
This statement is hand-waives the entire
On Fri, 24 May 2013 16:23:18 -0500, Kenta Suzumoto ken...@hush.com wrote:
- It fetches almost 700 patches from what seems like a dial-up
connection in AUSTRALIA.
Australia's deploying fiber, so joke's on you!
But honestly this is horrible. I'm sitting at my desk at a well-peered ISP
with
On 5/28/2013 14:09, Mark Felder wrote:
On Fri, 24 May 2013 16:23:18 -0500, Kenta Suzumoto ken...@hush.com wrote:
- It fetches almost 700 patches from what seems like a dial-up
connection in AUSTRALIA.
Australia's deploying fiber, so joke's on you!
But honestly this is horrible. I'm sitting
On Tue, 28 May 2013 15:14:52 +0200
John Marino wrote:
All
patches only take 74 seconds to download[2] so there is no sympathy
for your obviously single data point anecdote,
Well at the point you provided one data-point there was only one data
point. And it was like pulling teeth to get you
On Tue, 28 May 2013 15:16:00 +0100
RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Tue, 28 May 2013 15:14:52 +0200
John Marino wrote:
All
patches only take 74 seconds to download[2] so there is no sympathy
for your obviously single data point anecdote,
Well at the point you provided one
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 07:51:37PM +0200, Michael Gmelin wrote:
On Tue, 28 May 2013 15:16:00 +0100
RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Tue, 28 May 2013 15:14:52 +0200
John Marino wrote:
All
patches only take 74 seconds to download[2] so there is no sympathy
for your
Am 28.05.2013 19:51, schrieb Michael Gmelin:
On Tue, 28 May 2013 15:16:00 +0100
RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Tue, 28 May 2013 15:14:52 +0200
John Marino wrote:
All
patches only take 74 seconds to download[2] so there is no sympathy
for your obviously single data point
On 28 May 2013 06:08, Jeremy Messenger mezz.free...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 3:50 AM, Chris Rees cr...@freebsd.org wrote:
On 24 May 2013 22:23, Kenta Suzumoto ken...@hush.com wrote:
Hello all. The editors/vim port is currently a mess and needs some
changes.
- It fetches
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Am 28.05.2013 22:24, schrieb Lars Engels:
Someone in this thread proposed to change the port to use phttpget, so I
gave it a try using a German mirror nearby with 6 Mbit/s downlink:
$ time /usr/libexec/phttpget ftp.vim.ossmirror.de $(eval echo
On Fri, 24 May 2013 17:23:18 -0400
Kenta Suzumoto wrote:
- It fetches almost 700 patches from what seems like a dial-up
connection in AUSTRALIA.
You might as well be downloading a 1080p movie from a rock in the
north pole, because that's about how fast it is. This can be very
easily
RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com writes:
On Fri, 24 May 2013 17:23:18 -0400
Kenta Suzumoto wrote:
- It fetches almost 700 patches from what seems like a dial-up
connection in AUSTRALIA.
You might as well be downloading a 1080p movie from a rock in the
north pole, because that's about how
On Mon, 27 May 2013 09:36:20 -0400
Lowell Gilbert wrote:
RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com writes:
I prefer it the way it is; those patch files are cached in the
distfiles directory, so only new patches need be downloaded. I can't
say I've ever noticed it being slow. If you roll them up into
On 5/27/2013 16:34, RW wrote:
It would hurt people with a slow connections who would end-up having to
download most of the patches twice. I've a lot more sympathy with people
in that situation than with someone who doesn't cache and then
complains it's slow.
Trust me.
If you get the wrong
On Mon, 27 May 2013 17:19:40 +0200
John Marino wrote:
On 5/27/2013 16:34, RW wrote:
It would hurt people with a slow connections who would end-up
having to download most of the patches twice. I've a lot more
sympathy with people in that situation than with someone who
doesn't cache and
On 5/27/2013 18:36, RW wrote:
Like 4 patches
per minute slow. You have no sympathy for somebody that has to
download all 900+ patches from the beginning?
A little if it's the first time they've ever built vim on FreeBSD,
and they have have genuine good reason for not being able to wait an
On Mon, 27 May 2013 18:44:55 +0200
John Marino wrote:
Great. With the previous mirror I had it would have taken well over
an hour back when the patch count was 700.
By default it should be the same mirror if you tested it this year.
Slow and dead mirrors were removed at the beginning of
On 5/27/2013 19:36, RW wrote:
On Mon, 27 May 2013 18:44:55 +0200
John Marino wrote:
Great. With the previous mirror I had it would have taken well over
an hour back when the patch count was 700.
By default it should be the same mirror if you tested it this year.
Slow and dead mirrors were
On Mon, 27 May 2013 20:38:11 +0200
John Marino wrote:
It's obviously true since multiple users are seeing it. (the whole
1080 movie analogy, remember?)
It not obviously true that you aren't all either making this problem
with your make.conf settings or referring to a problem that
On 5/27/2013 22:09, RW wrote:
On Mon, 27 May 2013 20:38:11 +0200
John Marino wrote:
No, that's something you just made up. It is however vague and
anecdotal. We have only one data point that we know is from this year
and not self-inflicted, even if the others are, for all we know it
could
On Mon, 27 May 2013 22:33:53 +0200
John Marino wrote:
On 5/27/2013 22:09, RW wrote:
On Mon, 27 May 2013 20:38:11 +0200
John Marino wrote:
No, that's something you just made up. It is however vague and
anecdotal. We have only one data point that we know is from this
year and not
On 5/28/2013 01:05, RW wrote:
On Mon, 27 May 2013 22:33:53 +0200
John Marino wrote:
On 5/27/2013 22:09, RW wrote:
On Mon, 27 May 2013 20:38:11 +0200
John Marino wrote:
No, that's something you just made up. It is however vague and
anecdotal. We have only one data point that we know is from
On Tue, 28 May 2013 01:13:43 +0200
John Marino wrote:
On 5/28/2013 01:05, RW wrote:
On Mon, 27 May 2013 22:33:53 +0200
John Marino wrote:
In other words downloading every patch twice.
No. That's not what those words mean.
Please stop assuming that somebody builds Vim repeatedly and
On 5/28/2013 01:48, RW wrote:
On Tue, 28 May 2013 01:13:43 +0200
No. That's not what those words mean.
Please stop assuming that somebody builds Vim repeatedly and start
assuming it's built for the very first time.
Why wouldn't I? Are you seriously suggesting that it's the norm to build
a
On the first note, complain about the patches to the upstream, not to us. This
patches problem has been around since forever and so long the upstream
is not changing anything about it, nor do we. About rolling your own distfile,
I completely disagree because we do not know what the maintaner
On Tue, 28 May 2013 02:02:00 +0200
John Marino wrote:
On 5/28/2013 01:48, RW wrote:
On Tue, 28 May 2013 01:13:43 +0200
No. That's not what those words mean.
Please stop assuming that somebody builds Vim repeatedly and start
assuming it's built for the very first time.
Why wouldn't
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 3:50 AM, Chris Rees cr...@freebsd.org wrote:
On 24 May 2013 22:23, Kenta Suzumoto ken...@hush.com wrote:
Hello all. The editors/vim port is currently a mess and needs some changes.
- It fetches almost 700 patches from what seems like a dial-up connection in
On 5/25/2013 03:32, Jimmy wrote:
Perhaps one might ask the VIM developers themselves to provide a
tarball/zip of the patches along with the individual patches in
their distributions, pointing out the huge number of patches that
piled up for this particular VIM release and the problems it caused
On 24 May 2013 22:23, Kenta Suzumoto ken...@hush.com wrote:
Hello all. The editors/vim port is currently a mess and needs some changes.
- It fetches almost 700 patches from what seems like a dial-up connection in
AUSTRALIA.
You might as well be downloading a 1080p movie from a rock in the
On 05/25/13 10:50, Chris Rees wrote:
Alternatively, perhaps we need an editors/vim-options port
Just for the record, editors/vim was (and shells/bash) was converted to
optionsNG not too long ago.
Regards!
--
Niclas
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On 25 May 2013 11:54, Niclas Zeising zeising+free...@daemonic.se wrote:
On 05/25/13 10:50, Chris Rees wrote:
Alternatively, perhaps we need an editors/vim-options port
Just for the record, editors/vim was (and shells/bash) was converted to
optionsNG not too long ago.
Ah, that's at least
On 5/25/2013 13:24, Chris Rees wrote:
On 25 May 2013 11:54, Niclas Zeisingzeising+free...@daemonic.se wrote:
On 05/25/13 10:50, Chris Rees wrote:
Alternatively, perhaps we need an editors/vim-options port
Just for the record, editors/vim was (and shells/bash) was converted to
optionsNG
Am 25.05.2013 13:28, schrieb John Marino:
On 5/25/2013 13:24, Chris Rees wrote:
On 25 May 2013 11:54, Niclas Zeisingzeising+free...@daemonic.se wrote:
On 05/25/13 10:50, Chris Rees wrote:
Alternatively, perhaps we need an editors/vim-options port
Just for the record, editors/vim was
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 12:23 AM, Kenta Suzumoto ken...@hush.com wrote:
Hello all. The editors/vim port is currently a mess and needs some changes.
- It fetches almost 700 patches from what seems like a dial-up connection in
AUSTRALIA.
You might as well be downloading a 1080p movie from a
On 5/25/2013 00:29, Kimmo Paasiala wrote:
P.S. we're now at 7.3.1011 - the port could use a normal update as well./minor
complaint
- kenta
As far as I know FreeBSD does not roll custom distfiles because of
very obvious issues with authenticity of the files. If you create a
custom distfile
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 1:29 AM, Kimmo Paasiala kpaas...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 12:23 AM, Kenta Suzumoto ken...@hush.com wrote:
Hello all. The editors/vim port is currently a mess and needs some changes.
- It fetches almost 700 patches from what seems like a dial-up
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 01:29:09AM +0300, Kimmo Paasiala wrote:
As far as I know FreeBSD does not roll custom distfiles because of
very obvious issues with authenticity of the files. If you create a
custom distfile from let's say editors/vim as you suggest then who is
going to trust you to
Perhaps one might ask the VIM developers themselves to provide a
tarball/zip of the patches along with the individual patches in
their distributions, pointing out the huge number of patches that
piled up for this particular VIM release and the problems it caused
trying to download them
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