Re: CFT: pkgng support for tinderbox

2012-02-17 Thread Doug Barton
On 02/15/2012 15:23, Chuck Swiger wrote: especially if you consider packages/ports to be external to the FreeBSD operating system itself. Good thing the ports are an integral part of the operating SYSTEM. :) -- It's always a long day; 86400 doesn't fit into a short.

recent portrevision bump for libvpx

2012-02-17 Thread Andriy Gapon
Speaking about FreeBSD ports' current way of recording dependencies and overzealous portrevision bumping. On my system: - with libchk's help: Binaries that are linked with: /usr/local/lib/libvpx.so.0 /usr/local/bin/mencoder /usr/local/bin/mplayer /usr/local/bin/vpxdec

Re: recent portrevision bump for libvpx

2012-02-17 Thread Doug Barton
On 02/17/2012 02:14, Andriy Gapon wrote: Speaking about FreeBSD ports' current way of recording dependencies and overzealous portrevision bumping. We're way to aggressive about recording grandchild dependencies. Repeated calls for this to be addressed have been ignored. Meanwhile you can put

Re: recent portrevision bump for libvpx

2012-02-17 Thread Alex Dupre
Andriy Gapon wrote: Needless to say that all these ports got their port revisions bumped. Was there a good reason for that? I don't know. I just know that now I need to needlessly reinstall/rebuild about a hundred ports, many of which are not quite light-weight. It's time to experiment

Re: recent portrevision bump for libvpx

2012-02-17 Thread Alex Dupre
Alex Dupre wrote: Ideally a port should include in LIB_DEPENDS all the direct dependencies. And consequentially it should be bumped *only if* a direct dependency has a library version bump. With the current link to all attitude, we are never sure what need to be bumped, because of hidden

Re: recent portrevision bump for libvpx

2012-02-17 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 17/02/2012 12:23 Doug Barton said the following: Meanwhile you can put EXPLICIT_PACKAGE_DEPENDS= true in make.conf which helps quite a bit for keeping your local /var/db/pkg tidy. Thank you for this good advice! Unfortunately, it can't help with the gratuitous revision bumps, but it should

tinderbox question (Was: Re: recent portrevision bump for libvpx)

2012-02-17 Thread Alex Dupre
Alex Dupre wrote: And consequentially it should be bumped *only if* a direct dependency has a library version bump. This doesn't solve the fact that in 3 days my tinderbox has rebuilt nearly all ports 4 times. Is there a way to say tinderbox to not rebuild every ports (without portrevision

Re: recent portrevision bump for libvpx

2012-02-17 Thread Olivier Smedts
2012/2/17 Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org: On 02/17/2012 02:14, Andriy Gapon wrote: Speaking about FreeBSD ports' current way of recording dependencies and overzealous portrevision bumping. We're way to aggressive about recording grandchild dependencies. Repeated calls for this to be addressed

Re: recent portrevision bump for libvpx

2012-02-17 Thread Alex Dupre
Alexander Leidinger wrote: When I made the EXPLICIT_PACKAGE_DEPENDS patch, I noticed that there is not only libtool at fault (reaction of the libtool developers was IIRC: it's not trivial to fix known problems for the cross-building case (for libtool-1.x?)), but also pkg-config and similar

Re: recent portrevision bump for libvpx

2012-02-17 Thread Jakub Lach
Speaking of recent libvpx update, some ports explicitly look for libvpx.so.0, and fail to update trying to install again libvpx which is already installed. e.g. multimedia/gstreamer-plugins-vp8 -- View this message in context:

Re: recent portrevision bump for libvpx

2012-02-17 Thread Carmel
On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 02:23:24 -0800 Doug Barton articulated: Meanwhile you can put EXPLICIT_PACKAGE_DEPENDS= true in make.conf which helps quite a bit for keeping your local /var/db/pkg tidy. Where is that knob documented? I have not come across it before. Is it localized to portmaster or does

Re: recent portrevision bump for libvpx

2012-02-17 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 17/02/2012 10:38, Alex Dupre wrote: Alex Dupre wrote: Ideally a port should include in LIB_DEPENDS all the direct dependencies. And consequentially it should be bumped *only if* a direct dependency has a library version bump. With the current link to all attitude, we are never sure what

Re: recent portrevision bump for libvpx

2012-02-17 Thread Alexander Leidinger
Quoting Alex Dupre a...@freebsd.org (from Fri, 17 Feb 2012 11:33:17 +0100): Andriy Gapon wrote: Needless to say that all these ports got their port revisions bumped. Was there a good reason for that? I don't know. I just know that now I need to needlessly reinstall/rebuild about a hundred

Re: recent portrevision bump for libvpx

2012-02-17 Thread Alex Dupre
Matthew Seaman wrote: Adding code to run ldd(1) against the files installed by the port and processing the results shouldn't be too hard. This could be an idea for ports maintainers, to verify if LIB_DEPENDS is set correctly, but cannot be used as its generic replacement. -- Alex Dupre

Re: recent portrevision bump for libvpx

2012-02-17 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 17/02/2012 13:05, Alex Dupre wrote: Matthew Seaman wrote: Adding code to run ldd(1) against the files installed by the port and processing the results shouldn't be too hard. This could be an idea for ports maintainers, to verify if LIB_DEPENDS is set correctly, but cannot be used as its

Re: recent portrevision bump for libvpx

2012-02-17 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 17/02/2012 13:04 Olivier Smedts said the following: 2012/2/17 Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org: On 02/17/2012 02:14, Andriy Gapon wrote: Speaking about FreeBSD ports' current way of recording dependencies and overzealous portrevision bumping. We're way to aggressive about recording

Viewing port changelogs

2012-02-17 Thread APseudoUtopia
Hello, Before upgrading ports, I have made it a habit to check the changes in the ports Makefile from the previous version. I've been using the web-interface located at www.freebsd.org/ports/ For example, this page shows the change commit message,

Re: recent portrevision bump for libvpx

2012-02-17 Thread Olivier Smedts
2012/2/17 Andriy Gapon a...@freebsd.org: on 17/02/2012 13:04 Olivier Smedts said the following: 2012/2/17 Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org: On 02/17/2012 02:14, Andriy Gapon wrote: Speaking about FreeBSD ports' current way of recording dependencies and overzealous portrevision bumping. We're

Re: recent portrevision bump for libvpx

2012-02-17 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 17/02/2012 18:02 Olivier Smedts said the following: I report what I had to do to have a working system, with working software and an up-to-date libvpx. I didn't update all the ports that were bumped (54 for me, and they're all quite big, mostly kde-related). But now I can't portmaster -a if

Re: Re: recent portrevision bump for libvpx

2012-02-17 Thread Mikhail T.
On -10.01.-28163 14:59, Jakub Lach wrote: Speaking of recent libvpx update, some ports explicitly look for libvpx.so.0, and fail to update trying to install again libvpx which is already installed. e.g. multimedia/gstreamer-plugins-vp8 Yet again I'd like to point out, that -- contrary to the

Re: nspluginwrapper (was Re: linux-f10-flashplugin11 not works for 9-stable (Linuxulator?))

2012-02-17 Thread Jung-uk Kim
On Thursday 16 February 2012 04:26 pm, Andrey Chernov wrote: It seems part of the bug is already noticed by maintainer (Jung-uk Kim) but nothing is done to fix it: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2011-September/06 4067.html BTW, the bug is in native FreeBSD code (rpc.c), not

Re: Re: recent portrevision bump for libvpx

2012-02-17 Thread Chris Rees
On 17 February 2012 13:59, Mikhail T. mi+t...@aldan.algebra.com wrote: On -10.01.-28163 14:59, Jakub Lach wrote: Speaking of recent libvpx update, some ports explicitly look for libvpx.so.0, and fail to update trying to install again libvpx which is already installed. e.g.

Re: Viewing port changelogs

2012-02-17 Thread Lowell Gilbert
APseudoUtopia apseudouto...@gmail.com writes: Before upgrading ports, I have made it a habit to check the changes in the ports Makefile from the previous version. I've been using the web-interface located at www.freebsd.org/ports/ For example, this page shows the change commit message,

Re: Please test your commits

2012-02-17 Thread Mark Linimon
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 08:35:05PM +, Michael Scheidell wrote: Public flogging seems to be more enjoyable than a private email to the developer, the maintainer, and a committer. I know we are all a little frustrated with some of the local commits, but remember: praise in public,

Re: Please test your commits

2012-02-17 Thread Mark Linimon
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 03:22:38PM -0600, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: Also, if everyone starts using [redports], isn't the backlog going to become huge? We're working on getting more hardware. Having something become too successful is a problem we should be happy to have :) mcl

Re: Duplicate INDEX entries of long standing

2012-02-17 Thread Mark Linimon
Normally duplicate INDEX entries in the default config annoy one of us portmgrs and we go try to figure them out. On my own system I usually see this as a result of previously installed dependencies e.g. cvsup_without_gui IIRC. mcl ___

Re: linux-f10-flashplugin11 not works for 9-stable (Linuxulator?)

2012-02-17 Thread Jung-uk Kim
On Wednesday 15 February 2012 11:47 am, Andrey Chernov wrote: Having 9-stable and ports from Feb 14, all builded from sources, I get this commonly looking error attempting to view flash in FF 10.0.1: *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** ERROR: failed to initialize plugin-side RPC client connection

Re: recent portrevision bump for libvpx

2012-02-17 Thread Mikhail T.
On 17.02.2012 12:36, Chris Rees wrote: Yet again I'd like to point out, that -- contrary to the wide-spread practice -- ports should not, by default, list a particular shlib major number in LIB_DEPENDS. Only in cases, when a wrong version of some libfoo is known to cause problems, should

Re: CUDA porting effort?

2012-02-17 Thread Super Bisquit
I'd be willing to try building it on the Power(PC) platform. On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Eric McCorkle e...@shadowsun.net wrote: Given that NVidia is releasing the CUDA platform source on a limited basis, is anyone actively working to port it to FreeBSD? The reason I ask is that to get

Re: Re: recent portrevision bump for libvpx

2012-02-17 Thread Zhihao Yuan
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:59 AM, Mikhail T. mi+t...@aldan.algebra.com wrote: On -10.01.-28163 14:59, Jakub Lach wrote: Speaking of recent libvpx update, some ports explicitly look for libvpx.so.0, and fail to update trying to install again libvpx which is already installed. e.g.

Re: recent portrevision bump for libvpx

2012-02-17 Thread Mikhail T.
On 17.02.2012 14:24, Zhihao Yuan wrote: I regard this as a wrong practice. Here is why: 1. The way you specify the version in LIB_DEPENDS has NO relation with how the port link to the lib. The port can link to the major version (pkg-config), or the .so, etc. I'm sorry, I can not parse the

Re: CUDA porting effort?

2012-02-17 Thread Oliver Pinter
CC: Oliver Hartmann On 2/15/12, Eric McCorkle e...@shadowsun.net wrote: Given that NVidia is releasing the CUDA platform source on a limited basis, is anyone actively working to port it to FreeBSD? The reason I ask is that to get access to the source, you have to submit a request explaining

Re: linux-f10-flashplugin11 not works for 9-stable (Linuxulator?)

2012-02-17 Thread Jung-uk Kim
On Friday 17 February 2012 01:32 pm, Jung-uk Kim wrote: This invalid in sockaddr looks familiar as for some time ago added sockaddr length checks our kernel, but as bz@ says this should be already fixed. Yes, it should be fixed *before* 9.0-RELEASE. I meant 9.0 was released with the fix.

Re: recent portrevision bump for libvpx

2012-02-17 Thread Zhihao Yuan
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Mikhail T. mi+t...@aldan.algebra.com wrote: On 17.02.2012 14:24, Zhihao Yuan wrote: I regard this as a wrong practice. Here is why: 1. The way you specify the version in LIB_DEPENDS has NO relation with how the port link to the lib. The port can link to the

Re: recent portrevision bump for libvpx

2012-02-17 Thread Mikhail T.
On 17.02.2012 17:05, Zhihao Yuan wrote: On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Mikhail T.mi+t...@aldan.algebra.com wrote: On 17.02.2012 14:24, Zhihao Yuan wrote: I regard this as a wrong practice. Here is why: 1. The way you specify the version in LIB_DEPENDS has NO relation with how the port link

Library numbers in LIB_DEPENDS considered harmful (Re: recent portrevision bump for libvpx)

2012-02-17 Thread Mikhail T.
On 17.02.2012 17:05, Zhihao Yuan wrote: LIB_DEPENDS= png.6: or =png: does not affect how the lib got linked. Allow me to rephrase my argument from a different perspective... The language used in our ports' Makefiles is, largely, /declarative/ -- various things are declared and then

Re: recent portrevision bump for libvpx

2012-02-17 Thread Zhihao Yuan
On Feb 17, 2012 5:17 PM, Mikhail T. mi+t...@aldan.algebra.com wrote: On 17.02.2012 17:05, Zhihao Yuan wrote: On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Mikhail T. mi+t...@aldan.algebra.com wrote: On 17.02.2012 14:24, Zhihao Yuan wrote: I regard this as a wrong practice. Here is why: 1. The way you

Re: Library numbers in LIB_DEPENDS considered harmful (Re: recent portrevision bump for libvpx)

2012-02-17 Thread Zhihao Yuan
On Feb 17, 2012 5:41 PM, Mikhail T. mi+t...@aldan.algebra.com wrote: On 17.02.2012 17:05, Zhihao Yuan wrote: LIB_DEPENDS= png.6: or =png: does not affect how the lib got linked. Allow me to rephrase my argument from a different perspective... The language used in our ports' Makefiles is,

Re: Viewing port changelogs

2012-02-17 Thread Raphael Kubo da Costa
APseudoUtopia apseudouto...@gmail.com writes: I was wondering if there is any method to doing this from command line? I often don't have a web-browser available to me when working on the console. I'd be willing to write a script to display a changelog, but I'm not even sure where to get it