Re: When did pkg(8) drop support for 12-STABLE?

2021-02-24 Thread Chris

On 2021-02-24 00:56, @lbutlr wrote:

On 23 Feb 2021, at 16:31, Chris  wrote:
It was from a 12-STABLE usb stick (probably 12.1). Is there no way forward, 
save

building up to 12.2?


It sounds like the version you want is -RELEASE, not -STABLE.

Yep.


Think of -STABLE as "We are still working on this, but we THINK it's stable" 
as

opposed to RELEASE "this is ready for general release."

Yes. Seems my understanding became inverted somewhere along the line.
I was _really_ looking to install RELEASE.

Thank you very much for taking the time to reply! :-)

--Chris


Matthius included the steps needed to get to the current supported version.

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Re: When did pkg(8) drop support for 12-STABLE?

2021-02-24 Thread @lbutlr
On 23 Feb 2021, at 16:31, Chris  wrote:
> It was from a 12-STABLE usb stick (probably 12.1). Is there no way forward, 
> save
> building up to 12.2?

It sounds like the version you want is -RELEASE, not -STABLE.

Think of -STABLE as "We are still working on this, but we THINK it's stable" as 
opposed to RELEASE "this is ready for general release."

Matthius included the steps needed to get to the current supported version.

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Re: When did pkg(8) drop support for 12-STABLE?

2021-02-23 Thread Matthias Fechner

Am 24.02.2021 um 00:31 schrieb Chris:
It was from a 12-STABLE usb stick (probably 12.1). Is there no way 
forward, save
building up to 12.2? 


yes:

freebsd-update upgrade -r 12.2-RELEASE
freebsd-update install
# nextboot -k GENERIC
reboot
freebsd-update install
# check that config files in etc are correct!
reboot
# Make sure you point pkg repo definition to correct FreeBSD version
pkg update -f
pkg-static install -f pkg
pkg-static upgrade -F -y
pkg upgrade -f -y
freebsd-update install
reboot

Check for more details the documentation:
https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html

Gruß
Matthias

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Re: When did pkg(8) drop support for 12-STABLE?

2021-02-23 Thread Tatsuki Makino
Mark Millard wrote on 2021/02/24 12:43:
> On 2021-Feb-23, at 19:26, Tatsuki Makino  wrote:
> 
>> By the way, now 12.x-STABLE needs to bring the source with the following git 
>> command.
>> Is there an announcement about it anywhere?
>>
>> git clone -b stable/12 "https://git.FreeBSD.org/src.git; /usr/src
>> git -C /usr/src/ fetch -- origin stable/12
>> git -C /usr/src/ merge --
>> git -C /usr/src/ reset --hard HEAD --
> 
> For only getting 12's source (not for committing source)
> . . .
> 

Thank you.
I was able to get r368787 and later with svnlite update :)

It's a pain to delete /usr/src every time, so I switch it with nullfs.
mount -t nullfs /home/svn/FreeBSD/base/stable/12 /usr/src
mount -t nullfs /home/git/FreeBSD/src/stable/12 /usr/src

Regards.

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Re: When did pkg(8) drop support for 12-STABLE?

2021-02-23 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-ports



On 2021-Feb-23, at 19:26, Tatsuki Makino  wrote:

> Hello.
> 
> Jonathan Chen wrote on 2021/02/24 11:25:
>> 
>> You're running 12.1, and not -STABLE. The EOL for 12.1 was Nov-2019.
>> 
>> You need to get a later version or run -STABLE (ie: build from source
>> off the stable/12 branch).
> 
> No, it's the 12.x-STABLE. But it's older than 12.2-RELEASE.
> 
> By the way, now 12.x-STABLE needs to bring the source with the following git 
> command.
> Is there an announcement about it anywhere?
> 
> git clone -b stable/12 "https://git.FreeBSD.org/src.git; /usr/src
> git -C /usr/src/ fetch -- origin stable/12
> git -C /usr/src/ merge --
> git -C /usr/src/ reset --hard HEAD --

For only getting 12's source (not for committing source)
. . .

For stable/12/ and releng/12.*/ and release/12.*.*/
svn can still be used: git use is and will be optional,
although svn is somewhat delayed from git for when
commits appear. (There was a recent problem that
made for a huge delay for svn to have the commits
appear. That has been fixed and the delays are back
to the normal timescale as I understand.)

For stable/13/ and releng/13.*/ and relelase/13.*/
and main (14) and later: snv can no longer be used
to get source.

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Re: When did pkg(8) drop support for 12-STABLE?

2021-02-23 Thread Tatsuki Makino
Hello.

Jonathan Chen wrote on 2021/02/24 11:25:
> 
> You're running 12.1, and not -STABLE. The EOL for 12.1 was Nov-2019.
> 
> You need to get a later version or run -STABLE (ie: build from source
> off the stable/12 branch).

No, it's the 12.x-STABLE. But it's older than 12.2-RELEASE.

By the way, now 12.x-STABLE needs to bring the source with the following git 
command.
Is there an announcement about it anywhere?

git clone -b stable/12 "https://git.FreeBSD.org/src.git; /usr/src
git -C /usr/src/ fetch -- origin stable/12
git -C /usr/src/ merge --
git -C /usr/src/ reset --hard HEAD --

Regards.

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Re: When did pkg(8) drop support for 12-STABLE?

2021-02-23 Thread Chris

On 2021-02-23 18:25, Jonathan Chen wrote:

On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 at 15:00, Chris  wrote:


On 2021-02-23 16:04, Mark Millard wrote:
> Chris portmaster at bsdforge.com wrote on
> Tue Feb 23 23:31:09 UTC 2021 :
>
>> On 2021-02-23 14:58, @lbutlr wrote:
>> > On 23 Feb 2021, at 13:26, Chris  wrote:
>> >> OK On a virgin 12 stable install.
>> >
>> > The current release is 12.2-RELEASE. 12.0-RELEASE was EOLed last February. 
I
>> > am
>> > not sure what build you mean by "12-STABLE"
>> It was from a 12-STABLE usb stick (probably 12.1). Is there no way forward,
>> save
>> building up to 12.2?
>
>
> You might want to report the output of:
>
> # uname -apKU
>
> if you can still run it in the environment in question.
Thank you for your thoughtful suggestion, Mark.
It returns:
FreeBSD fbsd12dev 12.1-STABLE FreeBSD 12.1-STABLE r363918 GENERIC  amd64
amd64 1201522 1201522

Is that bad?



Thanks for the reply, Jonathan.

You're running 12.1, and not -STABLE. The EOL for 12.1 was Nov-2019.

Odd. It _says_ it's the STABLE branch.


You need to get a later version or run -STABLE (ie: build from source
off the stable/12 branch).

It _was_ built from the stable/12 branch. All be it a good while ago.
I guess I've somehow lost my understanding of what tracking STABLE really
means. Or maybe it's changed. But I installed from a 12-STABLE medium.
uname(1) reports it's 12-STABLE (12.1-STABLE). But it's _not_ 12-STABLE.
See my confusion? :-)

Thanks again.

--Chris


Cheers.
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Re: When did pkg(8) drop support for 12-STABLE?

2021-02-23 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 at 15:00, Chris  wrote:
>
> On 2021-02-23 16:04, Mark Millard wrote:
> > Chris portmaster at bsdforge.com wrote on
> > Tue Feb 23 23:31:09 UTC 2021 :
> >
> >> On 2021-02-23 14:58, @lbutlr wrote:
> >> > On 23 Feb 2021, at 13:26, Chris  wrote:
> >> >> OK On a virgin 12 stable install.
> >> >
> >> > The current release is 12.2-RELEASE. 12.0-RELEASE was EOLed last 
> >> > February. I
> >> > am
> >> > not sure what build you mean by "12-STABLE"
> >> It was from a 12-STABLE usb stick (probably 12.1). Is there no way forward,
> >> save
> >> building up to 12.2?
> >
> >
> > You might want to report the output of:
> >
> > # uname -apKU
> >
> > if you can still run it in the environment in question.
> Thank you for your thoughtful suggestion, Mark.
> It returns:
> FreeBSD fbsd12dev 12.1-STABLE FreeBSD 12.1-STABLE r363918 GENERIC  amd64
> amd64 1201522 1201522
>
> Is that bad?

You're running 12.1, and not -STABLE. The EOL for 12.1 was Nov-2019.

You need to get a later version or run -STABLE (ie: build from source
off the stable/12 branch).

Cheers.
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Re: When did pkg(8) drop support for 12-STABLE?

2021-02-23 Thread Chris

On 2021-02-23 16:04, Mark Millard wrote:

Chris portmaster at bsdforge.com wrote on
Tue Feb 23 23:31:09 UTC 2021 :


On 2021-02-23 14:58, @lbutlr wrote:
> On 23 Feb 2021, at 13:26, Chris  wrote:
>> OK On a virgin 12 stable install.
>
> The current release is 12.2-RELEASE. 12.0-RELEASE was EOLed last February. I
> am
> not sure what build you mean by "12-STABLE"
It was from a 12-STABLE usb stick (probably 12.1). Is there no way forward,
save
building up to 12.2?



You might want to report the output of:

# uname -apKU

if you can still run it in the environment in question.

Thank you for your thoughtful suggestion, Mark.
It returns:
FreeBSD fbsd12dev 12.1-STABLE FreeBSD 12.1-STABLE r363918 GENERIC  amd64 
amd64 1201522 1201522


Is that bad?

Thanks again.

--Chris


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Re: When did pkg(8) drop support for 12-STABLE?

2021-02-23 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-ports
Chris portmaster at bsdforge.com wrote on
Tue Feb 23 23:31:09 UTC 2021 :

> On 2021-02-23 14:58, @lbutlr wrote:
> > On 23 Feb 2021, at 13:26, Chris  wrote:
> >> OK On a virgin 12 stable install.
> > 
> > The current release is 12.2-RELEASE. 12.0-RELEASE was EOLed last February. 
> > I 
> > am
> > not sure what build you mean by "12-STABLE"
> It was from a 12-STABLE usb stick (probably 12.1). Is there no way forward, 
> save
> building up to 12.2?


You might want to report the output of:

# uname -apKU

if you can still run it in the environment in question.

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Re: When did pkg(8) drop support for 12-STABLE?

2021-02-23 Thread Chris

On 2021-02-23 14:58, @lbutlr wrote:

On 23 Feb 2021, at 13:26, Chris  wrote:

OK On a virgin 12 stable install.


The current release is 12.2-RELEASE. 12.0-RELEASE was EOLed last February. I 
am

not sure what build you mean by "12-STABLE"
It was from a 12-STABLE usb stick (probably 12.1). Is there no way forward, 
save

building up to 12.2?


Are you on the http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable 
mailing list?
Yep. But subscribed under a different email address. Guess I should look into 
it.


Thank you very much for taking the time to reply!

--Chris
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Re: When did pkg(8) drop support for 12-STABLE?

2021-02-23 Thread @lbutlr
On 23 Feb 2021, at 13:26, Chris  wrote:
> OK On a virgin 12 stable install.

The current release is 12.2-RELEASE. 12.0-RELEASE was EOLed last February. I am 
not sure what build you mean by "12-STABLE"

Are you on the http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable mailing 
list?


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When did pkg(8) drop support for 12-STABLE?

2021-02-23 Thread Chris

OK On a virgin 12 stable install. Followed by a
svnlite co svn://svn.freebsd.org/portd/head /usr/ports
and a /usr/src already populated.
A trip to /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg
followed by make install clean
returned:
/!\ ERROR: /!\

Ports Collection support for your FreeBSD version has ended, and no ports are
guaranteed to build on this system. Please upgrade to a supported release.

No support will be provided if you silence this message by defining
ALLOW_UNSUPPORTED_SYSTEM.

*** Error code 1

Stop.
While I could follow pkg's suggested alternative. This all just seems
very wrong.
Is there any way to disable pkg completely. So I can simply build
ports, rather than packages? maybe a
WITH_PKG=false
USE_PKG=false
or something else?

Thanks in advance for any enlightenment.

--Chris
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