Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

On Thu, 7 Dec 2017, Jan Bramkamp wrote: [ Cogent explanation deleted ] Thanks for that clear explanation; I've been promised a much bigger server in return for some contract work, so I'll start planning for it. -- Dave Horsfall DTM (VK2KFU) "Those who don't understand security will suffer."

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

On 7 Dec, Jan Bramkamp wrote: > On 06.12.17 23:23, Dave Horsfall wrote: >> On Wed, 6 Dec 2017, Jan Bramkamp wrote: >> >>> Synth and poudriere are parallel build tools and as such are very >>> taxing on the system. I suspect your system is unstable under such >>> load, because of a

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

El día jueves, diciembre 07, 2017 a las 09:01:01a. m. -0800, Chris H escribió: > > You can in the port's directory you can run "pkg install -A `make missing`. > > That should install missing dependencies as packages. Sometimes there > > are no packages for a dependecy then you can skip those: > >

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

On Thu, 7 Dec 2017 14:33:08 +0100 "Lars Engels" said On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 02:14:44PM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > Sometimes I want to add some port which was not built with poudriere > directly compiling it on the target laptops and now, ofc, this > compilation is

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

From my experience poudriere doesn't support that workflow. Either build the port and create a package of it, then install that on your target machine or build everything in your laptop. Poudriere wants to be the build bot. On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 9:14 PM, Matthias Apitz wrote:

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 02:14:44PM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > Sometimes I want to add some port which was not built with poudriere > directly compiling it on the target laptops and now, ofc, this > compilation is missing some other packages the concrete port is > depending on and it tries to

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

El día jueves, diciembre 07, 2017 a las 01:40:28p. m. +0100, Jan Beich escribió: > Fernando Apesteguía writes: > > > Can poudriere prefetch packages too? > > No until https://github.com/freebsd/poudriere/issues/319 is fixed. I have a question which points in

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

On 12/07/2017 12:36 AM, Mel Pilgrim wrote: > As for those complaining about, it's a remarkably small number of very > loud people, Let's not jump to the conclusion that since only the vocal minority who complains, then they are the only ones affected. Plenty of us are just silently waiting for a

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

Fernando Apesteguía writes: > Can poudriere prefetch packages too? No until https://github.com/freebsd/poudriere/issues/319 is fixed. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

El 7 dic. 2017 12:00, "Jan Bramkamp" escribió: On 06.12.17 23:23, Dave Horsfall wrote: > On Wed, 6 Dec 2017, Jan Bramkamp wrote: > > Synth and poudriere are parallel build tools and as such are very taxing >> on the system. I suspect your system is unstable under such load,

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

On 06.12.17 23:23, Dave Horsfall wrote: On Wed, 6 Dec 2017, Jan Bramkamp wrote: Synth and poudriere are parallel build tools and as such are very taxing on the system. I suspect your system is unstable under such load, because of a configuration error or unreliable hardware. One such

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

> On 6 Dec, 2017, at 17:15, Chris H wrote: > > On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 15:40:27 -0800 "Mel Pilgrim" > said > >> On 12/5/2017 2:25 PM, Baho Utot wrote: >> > Thank you for taking a perfectly good system and breaking it as well as > >> > making

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

On 12/6/2017 6:36 PM, Mel Pilgrim wrote: On 12/5/2017 2:09 PM, Mathieu Arnold wrote: Le 05/12/2017 à 10:53, Aryeh Friedman a écrit : TL;DR; Flavors 'ed up ports and there are no good ways/alternates for how to use the ports collection for normal everyday users/maintainers Thank you for

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

On 12/6/2017 6:40 PM, Mel Pilgrim wrote: On 12/5/2017 2:25 PM, Baho Utot wrote: Thank you for taking a perfectly good system and breaking it as well as making it unusable, unstable. You just don't know of all the countless hours spent after running an update and taking a week to get it

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 15:40:27 -0800 "Mel Pilgrim" said On 12/5/2017 2:25 PM, Baho Utot wrote: > Thank you for taking a perfectly good system and breaking it as well as > making it unusable, unstable.  You just don't know of all the countless > hours spent after

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

On 12/6/2017 3:40 PM, Mel Pilgrim wrote: The last time I had a major stability problem with FreeBSD was when I had a brand new Nocona Xeon system that would get interrupt storms running 5.x and had to run 6-CURRENT on it for a while because 6.x introduced MSI support. Or was that 4.x

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

On 12/5/2017 2:25 PM, Baho Utot wrote: Thank you for taking a perfectly good system and breaking it as well as making it unusable, unstable.  You just don't know of all the countless hours spent after running an update and taking a week to get it working again. I manage (currently) 104

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

On 12/5/2017 2:09 PM, Mathieu Arnold wrote: Le 05/12/2017 à 10:53, Aryeh Friedman a écrit : TL;DR; Flavors 'ed up ports and there are no good ways/alternates for how to use the ports collection for normal everyday users/maintainers Thank you for supporting all the hard work and countless

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

On Wed, 6 Dec 2017, Jan Bramkamp wrote: Synth and poudriere are parallel build tools and as such are very taxing on the system. I suspect your system is unstable under such load, because of a configuration error or unreliable hardware. One such configuration error that bit me is tmpfs mounted

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

On Tue, Dec 05, 2017 at 04:09:06PM -0800, Ultima wrote: > I wonder if making a simple man page for general users would be wise and > referencing the fully featured man page in it for more experienced users? > It seems that many users want a simple route and the current man page is > simply too

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

On 12/06/17 08:59, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día miércoles, diciembre 06, 2017 a las 08:26:41a. m. -0500, Baho Utot escribió: For users of third party abandonware, well, they were warned that it was bound to happen at one point, and guess what, it happened. I don't really understand why you

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

El día miércoles, diciembre 06, 2017 a las 08:26:41a. m. -0500, Baho Utot escribió: > > For users of third party abandonware, well, they were warned that it was > > bound to happen at one point, and guess what, it happened. I don't > > really understand why you continue spending all this time

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

On 12/06/17 04:53, Mathieu Arnold wrote: Le 05/12/2017 à 23:25, Baho Utot a écrit : On 12/05/17 17:09, Mathieu Arnold wrote: Le 05/12/2017 à 10:53, Aryeh Friedman a écrit : TL;DR; Flavors 'ed up ports and there are no good ways/alternates for how to use the ports collection for normal

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 6:01 AM, Johan Hendriks wrote: > > > Op 06/12/2017 om 10:53 schreef Mathieu Arnold: > > Le 05/12/2017 à 23:25, Baho Utot a écrit : > >> > >> On 12/05/17 17:09, Mathieu Arnold wrote: > >>> Le 05/12/2017 à 10:53, Aryeh Friedman a écrit : > TL;DR;

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

Op 06/12/2017 om 10:53 schreef Mathieu Arnold: > Le 05/12/2017 à 23:25, Baho Utot a écrit : >> >> On 12/05/17 17:09, Mathieu Arnold wrote: >>> Le 05/12/2017 à 10:53, Aryeh Friedman a écrit : TL;DR; Flavors 'ed up ports and there are no good ways/alternates for how to use the

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

On 05.12.17 10:53, Aryeh Friedman wrote: First some background (my typical use cases for ports): 0. FreeBSD lilith 11.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE #0 r321664: Fri Jul 28 23:35:18 EDT 2017 root@lilith:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 1. Daily routine (current): cd /usr/src

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

On Tue, Dec 05, 2017 at 05:25:13PM -0500, Baho Utot wrote: > Thank you for taking a perfectly good system and breaking it as well as > making it unusable, unstable. You just don't know of all the countless > hours spent after running an update and taking a week to get it working > again.

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 1:22 PM, Jonathan Chen wrote: > On 5 December 2017 at 22:53, Aryeh Friedman > wrote: > [...] > > 2. I installed synth (2.00) and *ATTEMPTED* to do a upgrade-system with > the > > following results (still not a successful run): >

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

Le 05/12/2017 à 23:25, Baho Utot a écrit : > > > On 12/05/17 17:09, Mathieu Arnold wrote: >> Le 05/12/2017 à 10:53, Aryeh Friedman a écrit : >>> TL;DR; >>> Flavors 'ed up ports and there are no good ways/alternates >>> for how >>> to use the ports collection for normal everyday users/maintainers

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

I wonder if making a simple man page for general users would be wise and referencing the fully featured man page in it for more experienced users? It seems that many users want a simple route and the current man page is simply too intimidating for them to even consider attempting to use. A small

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

On 12/05/17 23:25, Baho Utot wrote: > Thank you for taking a perfectly good system and breaking it as well as > making it unusable, unstable.  You just don't know of all the countless > hours spent after running an update and taking a week to get it working > again. > > It really helps motivate

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

On Tue, Dec 05, 2017 at 05:25:13PM -0500, Baho Utot wrote: > Thank you for taking a perfectly good system and breaking it as well as > making it unusable, unstable. You made your point 10 posts ago. You are repeating yourself. Why??? mcl ___

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

On 12/05/17 17:09, Mathieu Arnold wrote: Le 05/12/2017 à 10:53, Aryeh Friedman a écrit : TL;DR; Flavors 'ed up ports and there are no good ways/alternates for how to use the ports collection for normal everyday users/maintainers Thank you for supporting all the hard work and countless

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

Le 05/12/2017 à 10:53, Aryeh Friedman a écrit : > TL;DR; > Flavors 'ed up ports and there are no good ways/alternates for how > to use the ports collection for normal everyday users/maintainers Thank you for supporting all the hard work and countless hours that so many volunteers put in making

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

On 12/5/2017 1:53 AM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > 1. I decide to try poudriere since it seems to what people are raving > about. What a 'ing confusing mess it is use After deciding it > is over kill I go to option 2 1 time setup: echo ZPOOL=zroot >> /usr/local/etc/poudriere.conf poudriere

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

On 12/05/17 04:53, Aryeh Friedman wrote: First some background (my typical use cases for ports): 0. FreeBSD lilith 11.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE #0 r321664: Fri Jul 28 23:35:18 EDT 2017 root@lilith:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 1. Daily routine (current): cd /usr/src

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

On 5 December 2017 at 22:53, Aryeh Friedman wrote: [...] > 2. I installed synth (2.00) and *ATTEMPTED* to do a upgrade-system with the > following results (still not a successful run): > > a. Hard freezes the machine (not even a kernel panic) 4 times in a row synth

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

On Tue, Dec 05, 2017 at 04:53:07AM -0500, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > First some background (my typical use cases for ports): > > 0. FreeBSD lilith 11.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE #0 r321664: Fri Jul 28 > 23:35:18 EDT 2017 root@lilith:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > 1. Daily routine

Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

First some background (my typical use cases for ports): 0. FreeBSD lilith 11.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE #0 r321664: Fri Jul 28 23:35:18 EDT 2017 root@lilith:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 1. Daily routine (current): cd /usr/src svn update (from 11.1-RELEASE) [make