Re: Proposal: do not show up the dialog(1) by default?

2013-05-27 Thread Matthias Andree
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 23.05.2013 07:45, schrieb Baptiste Daroussin: hi, A lot of people seems to be complaining about the configuration dialog popping up all the time. What if we change the default behaviour to not pop up the dialog each time there is a

Re: Proposal: do not show up the dialog(1) by default?

2013-05-27 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Matthias Andree mand...@freebsd.orgwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 23.05.2013 07:45, schrieb Baptiste Daroussin: hi, A lot of people seems to be complaining about the configuration dialog popping up all the time. What if

Re: Proposal: do not show up the dialog(1) by default?

2013-05-26 Thread Mark Linimon
We should step back and define the problem. The problem IMHO is that we have optimized for users who wish to save the maximum space on their systems, at the expense of users who want to install and upgrade ports with the minimum fuss. IMHO we should do the opposite. I think the number of users

Re: Proposal: do not show up the dialog(1) by default?

2013-05-26 Thread Jos Backus
Hi, On May 23, 2013 2:06 AM, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote: On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 05:21:35PM +0900, Hiroki Sato wrote: Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote in 20130523054541.gh96...@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net: ba hi, ba ba A lot of people seems to be complaining

Re: Proposal: do not show up the dialog(1) by default?

2013-05-23 Thread Chris Rees
On 23 May 2013 06:55, Alex Dupre a...@freebsd.org wrote: Baptiste Daroussin ha scritto: A lot of people seems to be complaining about the configuration dialog popping up all the time. Probably because now every ports that list DOCS/EXAMPLES/NLS pop up the dialog? What if we change the

Re: Proposal: do not show up the dialog(1) by default?

2013-05-23 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Thu, 23 May 2013 07:45:42 +0200 Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote: hi, A lot of people seems to be complaining about the configuration dialog popping up all the time. What if we change the default behaviour to not pop up the dialog each time there is a changed option but

Re: Proposal: do not show up the dialog(1) by default?

2013-05-23 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 01:04:21PM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On Thu, 23 May 2013 07:45:42 +0200 Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote: hi, A lot of people seems to be complaining about the configuration dialog popping up all the time. What if we change the default

Re: Proposal: do not show up the dialog(1) by default?

2013-05-23 Thread Alex Dupre
Chris Rees ha scritto: I find such behavior very useful, I find annoying the above behavior. If the dialog will not pop-up if the only options are the global ones it'd be much better, IMO. The correct solution to this is to not add those to DEFINE. *If* this is the correct solution, why for

Re: Proposal: do not show up the dialog(1) by default?

2013-05-23 Thread Xin Li
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 5/22/13 10:45 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: hi, A lot of people seems to be complaining about the configuration dialog popping up all the time. What if we change the default behaviour to not pop up the dialog each time there is a changed

Re: Proposal: do not show up the dialog(1) by default?

2013-05-23 Thread Hiroki Sato
Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote in 20130523054541.gh96...@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net: ba hi, ba ba A lot of people seems to be complaining about the configuration dialog popping ba up all the time. ba ba What if we change the default behaviour to not pop up the dialog each time there ba

Re: Proposal: do not show up the dialog(1) by default?

2013-05-23 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 05:21:35PM +0900, Hiroki Sato wrote: Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote in 20130523054541.gh96...@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net: ba hi, ba ba A lot of people seems to be complaining about the configuration dialog popping ba up all the time. ba ba What if we

Re: Proposal: do not show up the dialog(1) by default?

2013-05-23 Thread Ilya A . Arkhipov
23.05.2013, 09:48, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org: hi, A lot of people seems to be complaining about the configuration dialog popping up all the time. What if we change the default behaviour to not pop up the dialog each time there is a changed option but only when the user

Re: Proposal: do not show up the dialog(1) by default?

2013-05-23 Thread John Marino
On 5/23/2013 11:10, Ilya A. Arkhipov wrote: I think it is not good idea, because if user don't know regarding options in ports he should do a make config and if it not exist should do a make install in this case we have two action.. Maybe other way for fix these frequent popping add needed

Re: Proposal: do not show up the dialog(1) by default?

2013-05-23 Thread Vitaly Magerya
I think it is not good idea, because if user don't know regarding options in ports he should do a make config and if it not exist should do a make install in this case we have two action.. Maybe other way for fix these frequent popping add needed options to make.conf I like the suggestion

Re: Proposal: do not show up the dialog(1) by default?

2013-05-23 Thread John Marino
On 5/23/2013 11:25, Vitaly Magerya wrote: I think it is not good idea, because if user don't know regarding options in ports he should do a make config and if it not exist should do a make install in this case we have two action.. Maybe other way for fix these frequent popping add needed options

Re: Proposal: do not show up the dialog(1) by default?

2013-05-23 Thread Vitaly Magerya
John Marino wrote: I like the suggestion that if the dialog consists only of globally set options (NLS, DOC, etc) then it shouldn't appear by default. Except the cases when those options pull in additional dependencies. In those cases either the dialog should be shown, or the options should

Re: Proposal: do not show up the dialog(1) by default?

2013-05-23 Thread Thomas Mueller
A lot of people seems to be complaining about the configuration dialog popping up all the time. What if we change the default behaviour to not pop up the dialog each time there is a changed option but only when the user explicitly type make config? Just a proposal, please give your

Re: Proposal: do not show up the dialog(1) by default?

2013-05-23 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:08:58AM +, Thomas Mueller wrote: A lot of people seems to be complaining about the configuration dialog popping up all the time. What if we change the default behaviour to not pop up the dialog each time there is a changed option but only when the

Re: Proposal: do not show up the dialog(1) by default?

2013-05-23 Thread Lars Engels
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 07:45:42AM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: hi, A lot of people seems to be complaining about the configuration dialog popping up all the time. What if we change the default behaviour to not pop up the dialog each time there is a changed option but only when the

Re: Proposal: do not show up the dialog(1) by default?

2013-05-23 Thread Michael Gmelin
On Thu, 23 May 2013 15:58:52 +0200 Lars Engels lars.eng...@0x20.net wrote: On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 07:45:42AM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: hi, A lot of people seems to be complaining about the configuration dialog popping up all the time. What if we change the default behaviour

Re: Proposal: do not show up the dialog(1) by default?

2013-05-23 Thread Adam Vande More
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote: hi, A lot of people seems to be complaining about the configuration dialog popping up all the time. What if we change the default behaviour to not pop up the dialog each time there is a changed option but only

Re: Proposal: do not show up the dialog(1) by default?

2013-05-23 Thread Florent Peterschmitt
Le 23/05/2013 08:36, Xin Li a écrit : On 5/22/13 10:45 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: hi, A lot of people seems to be complaining about the configuration dialog popping up all the time. What if we change the default behaviour to not pop up the dialog each time there is a changed option

Re: Proposal: do not show up the dialog(1) by default?

2013-05-23 Thread Freddie Cash
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Lars Engels lars.eng...@0x20.net wrote: On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 07:45:42AM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: hi, A lot of people seems to be complaining about the configuration dialog popping up all the time. What if we change the default behaviour to

Re: Proposal: do not show up the dialog(1) by default?

2013-05-23 Thread Freddie Cash
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote: hi, A lot of people seems to be complaining about the configuration dialog popping up all the time. What if we change the

Re: Proposal: do not show up the dialog(1) by default?

2013-05-23 Thread Chris Rees
On 23 May 2013 16:32, Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Lars Engels lars.eng...@0x20.net wrote: On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 07:45:42AM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: hi, A lot of people seems to be complaining about the configuration dialog

Re: Proposal: do not show up the dialog(1) by default?

2013-05-23 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 08:32:20AM -0700, Freddie Cash wrote: On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Lars Engels lars.eng...@0x20.net wrote: On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 07:45:42AM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: hi, A lot of people seems to be complaining about the configuration dialog

Re: Proposal: do not show up the dialog(1) by default?

2013-05-23 Thread Freddie Cash
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote: Please read the docs before stating things that are incorrect. I've read the docs, I've installed ports, I've mangled my make.conf to make it work in The New World Order. We can still set things globally, and it's not a

Re: Proposal: do not show up the dialog(1) by default?

2013-05-23 Thread Michael Gmelin
On Thu, 23 May 2013 16:51:40 +0200 Florent Peterschmitt flor...@peterschmitt.fr wrote: Le 23/05/2013 08:36, Xin Li a écrit : On 5/22/13 10:45 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: hi, A lot of people seems to be complaining about the configuration dialog popping up all the time. What if

Re: Proposal: do not show up the dialog(1) by default?

2013-05-23 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 08:38:02AM -0700, Freddie Cash wrote: On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote: Please read the docs before stating things that are incorrect. I've read the docs, I've installed ports, I've mangled my make.conf to make it work in The

Re: Proposal: do not show up the dialog(1) by default?

2013-05-23 Thread Adam Vande More
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com wrote: There are already two native ways to do this: make config-recursive use a ports management tool like portmaster/portupgrade portmaster certainly does not do this, nor make config-recursive(although it faster than the

Re: Proposal: do not show up the dialog(1) by default?

2013-05-23 Thread Chris Rees
On 23 May 2013 16:38, Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote: Please read the docs before stating things that are incorrect. I've read the docs, I've installed ports, I've mangled my make.conf to make it work in The New

Re: Proposal: do not show up the dialog(1) by default?

2013-05-23 Thread Warren Block
On Thu, 23 May 2013, Adam Vande More wrote: On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com wrote: There are already two native ways to do this: make config-recursive use a ports management tool like portmaster/portupgrade portmaster certainly does not do this, nor make

Re: Proposal: do not show up the dialog(1) by default?

2013-05-22 Thread Leslie Jensen
2013-05-23 07:45, Baptiste Daroussin skrev: hi, A lot of people seems to be complaining about the configuration dialog popping up all the time. What if we change the default behaviour to not pop up the dialog each time there is a changed option but only when the user explicitly type make

Re: Proposal: do not show up the dialog(1) by default?

2013-05-22 Thread Alex Dupre
Baptiste Daroussin ha scritto: A lot of people seems to be complaining about the configuration dialog popping up all the time. Probably because now every ports that list DOCS/EXAMPLES/NLS pop up the dialog? What if we change the default behaviour to not pop up the dialog each time there is

Re: Proposal: do not show up the dialog(1) by default?

2013-05-22 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 07:55:24AM +0200, Alex Dupre wrote: Baptiste Daroussin ha scritto: A lot of people seems to be complaining about the configuration dialog popping up all the time. Probably because now every ports that list DOCS/EXAMPLES/NLS pop up the dialog? I'll see what I