Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Sabine Baer
On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 04:49:16AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: [SNAFU] That's the situation with Flash. And as I have experienced it, I can honestly say that I'm fine without Flash. I may review my opinion, if given some reason to do so. But as it has already been mentioned, that's a very

Re: Calculating kernel/user/idle time

2010-03-06 Thread Ian Smith
In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 300, Issue 11, Message: 8 On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:58:20 -0600 Dan Nelson dnel...@allantgroup.com wrote: In the last episode (Mar 05), Peter Steele said: What's the proper way to calculate kernel/user/idle time? I know the raw values come from sysctl

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:03:58 +0100, Sabine Baer bae...@t-online.de wrote: Well, it is, indeed. Me I am very glad beeing able to do eg linux-opera -display :0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhmf4l4OxNw since I live in a Windows free zone at home. Well, there's always youtube-dl -a for that. Just

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 08:46:16 -, Graham Bentley ad...@cpcnw.co.uk wrote: Points very well made. In fact shouldn't we be campaigning against such closed source perversion of our Open Standards Internet, not complaining that one company doesn't make a media content viewer for us? In fact, if

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread perryh
Pongthep Kulkrisada ptkris...@gmail.com wrote: * Warren Block (wbl...@wonkity.com) wrote: When you upgrade from 7.x to 8.x, it's necessary to rebuild *all* ports. ... Some people only use console, they should rebuild all ports relating to their work. They do not have to rebuild KDE or

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Graham Bentley
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 23:02:36 -, Graham Bentley ad...@cpcnw.co.uk wrote: It looks very bad for browsing web without flash viewer. I think it looks great - no ads !!! Hurray !!! I may politely add that exactly this is the reason I removed a working Flash support from my system. I

Re: can't bring ath0 up

2010-03-06 Thread Colin Brace
Leslie Jensen wrote: If it's a wireless you need to set wlan0 as described in the handbook. This is new from version 8. The handbook hasn't been updated yet, but the man page for ath has all the details: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ath These commands work for me: ifconfig

Re: freebsd install from floppy

2010-03-06 Thread perryh
Piotr Lukawski plukaw...@googlemail.com wrote: ... I really cannot understand why nobody can change just one parameter and put the file in a proper place in ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/8.0-RELEASE/floppies/ I seem to remember something about the floppy images being dropped

Re: Thousands of ssh probes

2010-03-06 Thread Matthew Seaman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/03/2010 06:33:53, Ian Smith wrote: In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 300, Issue 10, Message: 6 On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:07:29 + Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote: On 05/03/2010 15:51:52, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:

Re: freebsd install from floppy

2010-03-06 Thread Matthew Seaman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/03/2010 09:26:22, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: I seem to remember something about the floppy images being dropped because few current (or even recent) systems have a floppy drive at all, much less a bootable one. Yeah, but the floppy disk

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Jerry ges...@yahoo.com wrote: Adobe, a commercial entity, obviously feels that the cost of supporting the FreeBSD community is not a financially prudent business venture. Well, that's their decision, of course. However, Linux and FreeBSD aren't so far apart

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:03:58 +0100, Sabine Baer bae...@t-online.de wrote: Well, it is, indeed. Me I am very glad beeing able to do eg linux-opera -display :0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhmf4l4OxNw since I live in a Windows

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: If they don't want to make one, there's no way to convince them. Since the majority of free and standardized operating systems isn't oriented at market share, there is no reason for Adobe to follow a crying Please! :-) There

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:07:25 +0100, C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote: That's true. I love youtube-dl too, as it helps me keep a local .flv copy, even for videos that have been removed for one reason or another. A very useful feature, especially for offline operations. However, there are

Re: freebsd install from floppy

2010-03-06 Thread Piotr Lukawski
In many situations, especially for and old or non standard equipment floppies are the best or even the only solution. Actually if I haven't found the solution to use floppy to install FreeBSD, I would be forced to use another system eg. OpenBSD instead, even if I prefer FreeBSD. The decision to

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:15:37 +0100, C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote: On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: If they don't want to make one, there's no way to convince them. Since the majority of free and standardized operating systems isn't oriented at

Pinnacle nanostick 73e on FreeBSD, possible?

2010-03-06 Thread Leslie Jensen
I'm curious if it's possible to get a pinnacle nanostick 73e to work with Freebsd. When inserted /var/log/messages repports the following root: Unknown USB device: vendor 0x2304 product 0x0237 bus uhub7 kernel: ugen7.2: Pinnacle at usbus7 /Leslie

Re: freebsd install from floppy

2010-03-06 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:24:30 +0100, Piotr Lukawski plukaw...@googlemail.com wrote: In many situations, especially for and old or non standard equipment floppies are the best or even the only solution. [...] The decision to make floppies obsolete is very bad, because it is still needed by many

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Harald Weis
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 12:14:15PM +0700, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote: Hi all, I have been using FBSD since 5.4 until now 8.0. Mostly, I use it as a server and coding C (as my hobby). All the time I stay in console without fancy of any GUI. For GUI applications, I mostly use Windows. Now I

Re: Booting MFS from Secondary Partition

2010-03-06 Thread Martin McCormick
Fbsd1 writes: just dd the image to what ever drive you want That is the goal. The challenge is to launch a script that detects when the boot device has been unmounted as dd will not work on an active file system. Memory disk images apparently survive until reboot so there is a

Re: amd64 won't install on Core Duo

2010-03-06 Thread Ross Cameron
What system board revision does you're Thinkpad have? You can use CPU-Z (http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php) to check on this. The revision 3 and above system boards can run 64bit OS's. Also if you're CPU is one of the following a a BIOS upgrade/setting may enable the full set of processor

Re: xorg, xdm, desktop env

2010-03-06 Thread Robert Huff
Polytropon writes: A small addition: In order to be able to use X with an initialisation file even when not using XDM (i. e. starting X by startx) AND not having to maintain two startup files (.xsession and .xinitrc) AND furthermore incorporating shell settings for the shell of choice

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Mar 5, 2010, at 11:35 PM, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote: * Warren Block (wbl...@wonkity.com) wrote: When you upgrade from 7.x to 8.x, it's necessary to rebuild *all* ports. Thanks for your suggestion, but it does not seem likely. All operating systems can always distinguish the system and

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Robert Huff
Polytropon writes: And remember, youtube-dl is a hack. It can break anytime YT changes its embedding. That's what make update is used for. :-) More importantly, it's about the author (and maintainer, if they're different) fixing things promptly after a change, My experience

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-STABLE vs security branches, was: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Mar 6, 2010, at 1:57 AM, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote: So your system is approx. 4 months old, despite you cvsup-ping? I don't know what do you mean. Normally, FBSD issues new STABLE RELEASE once a year (approx). Whenever new release or new branch is available, I shall do either wget iso

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Robert Huff
Chuck Swiger writes: For all practical purposes, if you upgrade to a new major version, then you must rebuild all installed ports. And if you have the time and knowledge to not have to do this ... you're probably not involved in the discussion to begin with. :-)

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Robert Huff roberth...@rcn.com wrote:   And remember, youtube-dl is a hack. It can break anytime   YT changes its embedding.  That's what make update is used for. :-)        More importantly, it's about the author (and maintainer, if they're different) fixing

Re: Thousands of ssh probes

2010-03-06 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Mar 6, 2010, at 4:36 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: Having an IPv6-only high-mx seems to terminally confuse most spambots... I understand why IPv6 would confuse them, but don't follow why higher numbered MXs would be more attractive to them in the first place? Are they assuming a 'secondary'

Re: Thousands of ssh probes

2010-03-06 Thread Ian Smith
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 06/03/2010 06:33:53, Ian Smith wrote: In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 300, Issue 10, Message: 6 On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:07:29 + Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote: On 05/03/2010 15:51:52, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:

Re: Can't install octave

2010-03-06 Thread Zbigniew Komarnicki
On Friday 05 of March 2010 17:09:56 Pietro Cerutti wrote: On 2010-Mar-05, 16:47, Jan Henrik Sylvester wrote: There has been one more commit on that port: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/x11-toolkits/fltk/files/patch -src_filename_list.cxx.diff?r1=1.4;r2=1.5;f=h That one

Debug still in kernel

2010-03-06 Thread Jason Garrett
Hello all, I am currently tracking RELENG_8_0. I did a csup last night and noticed that debug is still enabled in the GENERIC kernel. I thought debugging was supposed to be left out once the 8 branch went RELEASE? Can anyone shed light on this subject?

Re: Thousands of ssh probes

2010-03-06 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Matthew == Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk writes: Matthew On the whole, I don't see the value in having a high-numbered MX to Matthew dumbly accept, queue and forward messages like this. High-numbered MX came from a time where an internal machine could only be delivered from

Re: amd64 won't install on Core Duo

2010-03-06 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 03:19:31PM +0200, Ross Cameron wrote: What system board revision does you're Thinkpad have? You can use CPU-Z (http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php) to check on this. That looks like a handy tool. Is there a version that will run on FreeBSD? -- Chad Perrin [ original

Re: amd64 won't install on Core Duo

2010-03-06 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 03:19:31PM +0200, Ross Cameron wrote: What system board revision does you're Thinkpad have?     You can use CPU-Z (http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php) to check on this. That looks like a handy tool.  Is

Re: freebsd install from floppy

2010-03-06 Thread James Phillips
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:54:38 + From: Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: freebsd install from floppy To: per...@pluto.rain.com Cc: questi...@freebsd.org, plukaw...@gmail.com Message-ID: 4b92265e.5030...@infracaninophile.co.uk Content-Type: text/plain;

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Paul B Mahol
On 3/6/10, C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote: On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:03:58 +0100, Sabine Baer bae...@t-online.de wrote: Well, it is, indeed. Me I am very glad beeing able to do eg linux-opera -display :0

Re: freebsd install from floppy

2010-03-06 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Mar 6, 2010, at 12:44 PM, James Phillips wrote: Correction: Apple stopped selling computers with floppy drives about 10 years ago. The floppy drive is not obsolete because there is still no viable replacement that has the same (or better) functionality. While I think floppy drives are

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread George Liaskos
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 1:07 PM, C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote: And remember, youtube-dl is a hack. It can break anytime YT changes its embedding. I wished YouTube would switch to HTML5, or at least added this as an option. Actually this option exists http://www.youtube.com/html5 The

Re: Debug still in kernel

2010-03-06 Thread Tim Judd
On 3/6/10, Jason Garrett kinged...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I am currently tracking RELENG_8_0. I did a csup last night and noticed that debug is still enabled in the GENERIC kernel. I thought debugging was supposed to be left out once the 8 branch went RELEASE? Can anyone shed light on

Re: Debug still in kernel

2010-03-06 Thread Jason Garrett
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 13:51, Tim Judd taj...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/6/10, Jason Garrett kinged...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I am currently tracking RELENG_8_0. I did a csup last night and noticed that debug is still enabled in the GENERIC kernel. I thought debugging was supposed to

Re: Debug still in kernel

2010-03-06 Thread Tim Judd
On 3/6/10, Jason Garrett kinged...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 13:51, Tim Judd taj...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/6/10, Jason Garrett kinged...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I am currently tracking RELENG_8_0. I did a csup last night and noticed that debug is still enabled in the

Re: Suitable laptop for FreeBSD?

2010-03-06 Thread Jason Garrett
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 18:06, Aaron Lewis aaron.lewis1...@gmail.com wrote: Bas v.d. Wiel wrote: Aaron Lewis wrote: Umm... that's incorrect. Maybe you mean ATI doesn't supply closed drivers for FreeBSD (although they do have Linux drivers, I think). Well , the opensource ati driver

Java in FF3.6

2010-03-06 Thread Programmer In Training
According to /usr/ports/UPDATING the Java plugin does not work in FF3.6. Is this a Java issue, a FireFox issue or a FreeBSD issue? I just noticed this today as I was going through looking through it because of the thread about upgrading from perl5.8 to perl5.10 (the instructions in UPDATING don't

Re: Debug still in kernel

2010-03-06 Thread Jason Garrett
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 14:18, Jason Garrett kinged...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 14:12, Tim Judd taj...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/6/10, Jason Garrett kinged...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 13:51, Tim Judd taj...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/6/10, Jason Garrett

Re: Debug still in kernel

2010-03-06 Thread Frank Steinborn
Tim Judd wrote: makeoptions DEBUG=-g# Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols options PREEMPTION # Enable kernel thread preemption why are these still in GENERIC after release? I can confirm debug symbols is still in the kernel, but that is most

Re: Java in FF3.6

2010-03-06 Thread Jerry
On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:30:28 -0600 Programmer In Training p...@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us articulated: According to /usr/ports/UPDATING the Java plugin does not work in FF3.6. Is this a Java issue, a FireFox issue or a FreeBSD issue? I just noticed this today as I was going through looking through it

[ANSWERED] Re: Java in FF3.6

2010-03-06 Thread Programmer In Training
On 03/06/10 16:57, Jerry wrote: snip Please check out this URL: http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/firefox_newplugin.xml I believer that the FreeBSD version of Java is several versions behind that. Therefore, it would appear to be a FreeBSD problem. I'll just wait for FreeBSD to update

Re: Debug still in kernel

2010-03-06 Thread Jason Garrett
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 17:06, Mikhail Goriachev mikha...@navalradio.clwrote: Jason Garrett wrote: On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 14:18, Jason Garrett kinged...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 14:12, Tim Judd taj...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/6/10, Jason Garrett kinged...@gmail.com

Non-maskable interrupt trap

2010-03-06 Thread Marco Beishuizen
Hi, Fot the first time in years I had a kernel panic in FreeBSD (8.0-ST). While playing a flash movie in Firefox (3.6), everything just locked up and only resetting helped. After the reboot it wrote a corefile in /var/crash/ which is unfortunately too big to read by any text editor. The trap

mailing list archive as mbox

2010-03-06 Thread Alexander Best
hi there, what are the steps i need to perform to get a copy of the entire mailingslist archive of lets say freebsd-current@ in mbox format? cheers. alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Non-maskable interrupt trap

2010-03-06 Thread perryh
Marco Beishuizen mb...@xs4all.nl wrote: Fot the first time in years I had a kernel panic in FreeBSD (8.0-ST). While playing a flash movie in Firefox (3.6), everything just locked up and only resetting helped. After the reboot it wrote a corefile in /var/crash/ which is unfortunately too big

Re: Updating ports was Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Pongthep Kulkrisada
* Chuck Swiger (cswi...@mac.com) wrote: Yes, it's not enough. When you upgrade the base OS to a new major version (ie, going from 7.x to 8.x), the system libraries get bumped to a new version, but any libraries coming from ports are still linked against the older version of the

Re: mailing list archive as mbox

2010-03-06 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Mar 07), Alexander Best said: hi there, what are the steps i need to perform to get a copy of the entire mailingslist archive of lets say freebsd-current@ in mbox format? Go to ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/mailing-lists/archive/ where you can download weekly

Re: Updating ports was Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 11:30:04 +0700, Pongthep Kulkrisada ptkris...@gmail.com wrote: But it takes very long time to rebuild all ports. Main problem is KDE, big big ports. Okay, I shall do it, when I have time. You can consider using pkgadd -r to install binary packages. Those are quite synchon

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Sabine Baer
On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 09:25:41AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:03:58 +0100, Sabine Baer bae...@t-online.de wrote: Well, it is, indeed. Me I am very glad beeing able to do eg linux-opera -display :0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhmf4l4OxNw since I live in a Windows free

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 07:29:48 +0100, Sabine Baer bae...@t-online.de wrote: OK, I really didn't know youtube_dl (and clive someone mentioned in the thread). So, thanks a lot. I youtube-dl-ed my puff pastry examle. It took me 5 minutes and 11.69M space on diks but then I was able to look at it

Re: Updating ports was Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Pongthep Kulkrisada
Hi Polytropon, Firstly, thanks for your suggestion. * Polytropon (free...@edvax.de) wrote: You can consider using pkgadd -r to install binary packages. Those are quite synchon with the ports tree (as they are centrally built from the ports tree). I checked /var/db/pkg; I have 464 ports

Re: Updating ports was Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 14:29:57 +0700, Pongthep Kulkrisada ptkris...@gmail.com wrote: I checked /var/db/pkg; I have 464 ports installed on my system (including X). I would probably not do so. The pkg_add utility is especially useful when building a new installation from scratch, because it