Re: Looking for a Text on ZFS

2008-02-05 Thread Drew Tomlinson
Wojciech Puchar wrote: [snip] mirror. that's all. Which doesn't really address the issue of what happens if a drive that is part of a big ZFS is removed (because it's broken). it will say "read error" on all files and directories that happened to be placed on that disk! Just to be cl

Re: Looking for a Text on ZFS

2008-02-04 Thread Wojciech Puchar
did you ever got your UFS filesystem broken not because your drive failed? That is not the point here. I have been using FreeBSD sind version 3.3, which was released in 1999. Before that I used Linux. So I can't even look while i was using linux - crashed filesystem was quite common without an

Re: Looking for a Text on ZFS

2008-02-04 Thread Christian Baer
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:39:52 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > did you ever got your UFS filesystem broken not because your drive failed? That is not the point here. I have been using FreeBSD sind version 3.3, which was released in 1999. Before that I used Linux. So I can't even look back on 10

Re: Looking for a Text on ZFS

2008-02-04 Thread Wojciech Puchar
/usr to spread the load while making worlds and I mount /usr/obj asynchronously to increase write speed. With several filesystems I can spread to load the way I want it and decide where the data goes. And one broken fs doesn't screw up the others in the process. did you ever got your UFS filesys

Re: Looking for a Text on ZFS

2008-02-04 Thread Christian Baer
On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 17:55:12 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > that's like 64-bit soundcards that have to be "better" than 32-bit, while > most of them was unable to actually get past 13-14 bit (most past 12) with > it's signal to noise ratio. Maybe that's not quite the same thing. :-) Howev

Re: Looking for a Text on ZFS

2008-02-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 03/02/2008, Christian Baer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 21:38:49 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Well, the best, I think. > > I take ist, you don't approve of ZFS? :-) > It is not a panacaea. The optimisation and sharing of r/w, Load balancing, And redundant data verifica

Re: Looking for a Text on ZFS

2008-02-03 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I already read that before I posted my question. Neither by this text, nor by the one in the Wikipedia could I participate in the exitement around ZFS. Ok, so it's a 128Bit FS. Big fat, hairy deal! I couldn't see that's like 64-bit soundcards that have to be "better" than 32-bit, while most of

Re: Looking for a Text on ZFS

2008-02-03 Thread Christian Baer
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 21:38:49 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ZFS ends the microsotf monopoly over our disks. And this monopoly is founded on ... what? > ZFS begins the world as a 128bit dadaspace. > Using ZFS fixes allocations and massaging your NAS. > The inode is now the wenode. > Usaging ZFS

Re: Looking for a Text on ZFS

2008-02-03 Thread Christian Baer
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 21:11:21 +0100 Mel wrote: > If you review the "Not done" items @ http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFS and still > are > doubting, then http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/whatis/ describes > what the features *can* be. I got a good impression from that text what the > advanta

Re: Looking for a Text on ZFS

2008-02-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 02/02/2008, Christian Baer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello people! > > Can anyone give me a link to a text on ZFS that tells me why I might want > to use that instead of FFS? I don't want to start a discussion which is > better, just a comparison, as I assume that the two are not designed to

Re: Looking for a Text on ZFS

2008-02-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar
If you review the "Not done" items @ http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFS and still are doubting, then http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/whatis/ describes what the features *can* be. I got a good impression from that text what the advantages are, but I'm too conservative to migrate myself. YMMV.

Re: Looking for a Text on ZFS

2008-02-02 Thread Mel
On Saturday 02 February 2008 20:07:50 Christian Baer wrote: > Can anyone give me a link to a text on ZFS that tells me why I might want > to use that instead of FFS? I don't want to start a discussion which is > better, just a comparison, as I assume that the two are not designed to do > the same

Looking for a Text on ZFS

2008-02-02 Thread Christian Baer
Hello people! Can anyone give me a link to a text on ZFS that tells me why I might want to use that instead of FFS? I don't want to start a discussion which is better, just a comparison, as I assume that the two are not designed to do the same things. And if possible one that is understandable to