On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 05:13:48PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote:
Gnumeric I use more frequently (for spreadsheets). I hate having to
start up that monolithic libreoffice just to do a spreadsheet, but that
would be a HAL-free alternative.
When I'm creating something from scratch that some people
On Mon, 16 May 2011 17:13:48 -0700, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com
wrote:
I don't use dia very often (it's for diagrams).
So maybe gnuplot is an alternative (if we have the same
kind of diagrams in mind)?
Gnumeric I use more
frequently (for spreadsheets). I hate having to start
On Tue, 17 May 2011 01:27:50 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 05:13:48PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote:
Gnumeric I use more frequently (for spreadsheets). I hate having to
start up that monolithic libreoffice just to do a spreadsheet, but that
would be a
Quoth Warren Block on Monday, 16 May 2011:
On Mon, 16 May 2011, Chip Camden wrote:
Looks like cinepaint doesn't have any GNOME dependencies, and also no HAL
dependency. Now if I can just learn how to do everything I know how to
do in GIMP, I'll be set for that piece.
I don't use dia very
Quoth Warren Block on Monday, 16 May 2011:
On Mon, 16 May 2011, Chip Camden wrote:
Looks like cinepaint doesn't have any GNOME dependencies, and also no HAL
dependency. Now if I can just learn how to do everything I know how to
do in GIMP, I'll be set for that piece.
I don't use dia very
On Sun, 15 May 2011 12:18:28 -0700, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com
wrote:
I wish I could figure
out what dependency wanted HAL to be installed so I could remove it.
I would assume that the HAL dependency may be required by
some deeper-inside Gnome part that is used by Gimp, maybe
a
--As of May 16, 2011 10:00:38 AM +0200, Polytropon is alleged to have said:
On Sun, 15 May 2011 12:18:28 -0700, Chip Camden
sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote:
I wish I could figure
out what dependency wanted HAL to be installed so I could remove it.
I would assume that the HAL dependency may
On Mon, 16 May 2011, Daniel Staal wrote:
--As of May 16, 2011 10:00:38 AM +0200, Polytropon is alleged to have said:
On Sun, 15 May 2011 12:18:28 -0700, Chip Camden
sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote:
I wish I could figure
out what dependency wanted HAL to be installed so I could remove it.
Quoth Daniel Staal on Monday, 16 May 2011:
--As of May 16, 2011 10:00:38 AM +0200, Polytropon is alleged to have said:
On Sun, 15 May 2011 12:18:28 -0700, Chip Camden
sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote:
I wish I could figure
out what dependency wanted HAL to be installed so I could remove
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 4:00 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
On Sun, 15 May 2011 12:18:28 -0700, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com
wrote:
I wish I could figure
out what dependency wanted HAL to be installed so I could remove it.
I would assume that the HAL dependency may be
Quoth Warren Block on Monday, 16 May 2011:
On Mon, 16 May 2011, Daniel Staal wrote:
--As of May 16, 2011 10:00:38 AM +0200, Polytropon is alleged to have said:
On Sun, 15 May 2011 12:18:28 -0700, Chip Camden
sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote:
I wish I could figure
out what dependency
On Mon, 16 May 2011 11:14:49 -0700, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com
wrote:
Quoth Warren Block on Monday, 16 May 2011:
One problem with getting rid of hal entirely is libgnomeui, which
depends on gvfs, which depends on gnome-mount, which depends on hal.
That's what I did assume.
On Mon, 16 May 2011, Polytropon wrote:
Maybe, just MAYBE, the gnome-mount dependency can be installed
without requiring HAL. I don't know much about the details, but
HAL has been said to be the means for automounting local media,
and maybe is in conjuction with Samba. If you can disable such
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:14:49AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote:
Yes, that seems to be the sticking point. The only option appears to be
doing without gimp, gnumeric, and dia, which all depend upon libgnomeui.
Any Gnome-free alternatives out there?
I don't use anything like gnumeric or dia,
Quoth Chad Perrin on Monday, 16 May 2011:
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:14:49AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote:
Yes, that seems to be the sticking point. The only option appears to be
doing without gimp, gnumeric, and dia, which all depend upon libgnomeui.
Any Gnome-free alternatives out there?
Quoth Chad Perrin on Monday, 16 May 2011:
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:14:49AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote:
Yes, that seems to be the sticking point. The only option appears to be
doing without gimp, gnumeric, and dia, which all depend upon libgnomeui.
Any Gnome-free alternatives out there?
On Mon, 16 May 2011, Chip Camden wrote:
Looks like cinepaint doesn't have any GNOME dependencies, and also no HAL
dependency. Now if I can just learn how to do everything I know how to
do in GIMP, I'll be set for that piece.
I don't use dia very often (it's for diagrams). Gnumeric I use more
Please allow me a technical sidenote:
On Sat, 14 May 2011 20:53:27 -0700 (PDT), Rob Clark rpcl...@ymail.com wrote:
Trying the obvious first, I unplugged the keyboard and plugged it
back in the ps2 port, and keyboard worked immediately -- this
was repeatable.
Do _NOT_ hotplug the PS/2 port!
On Sat, 14 May 2011, Rob Clark wrote:
After restarting X, prior to any reboot, I lost the mouse in X.
So I figured a reboot was in order.
This is almost certainly HAL. If you do not know you need HAL for
something, mark the hal and hal-info ports FORBIDDEN (set FORBIDDEN to any
value in the
Quoth Lars Eighner on Sunday, 15 May 2011:
On Sat, 14 May 2011, Rob Clark wrote:
After restarting X, prior to any reboot, I lost the mouse in X.
So I figured a reboot was in order.
This is almost certainly HAL. If you do not know you need HAL for
something, mark the hal and hal-info
Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
Do _NOT_ hotplug the PS/2 port! It's not capable of that!
I've seen myself in the past that trying so caused a mainboard
to fly into the garbage can - as hotplugging the keyboard
seemed to have damaged the PS/2 port (it didn't work anymore,
with no
--As of May 15, 2011 8:03:29 PM -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com is alleged to
have said:
The AT and PS/2 keyboard interfaces are electrically identical --
only the physical connector is different. (I have seen, and used,
adapters to connect either type of keyboard to the other type of
system.
Daniel Staal dst...@usa.net wrote:
--As of May 15, 2011 8:03:29 PM -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com is
alleged to have said:
The AT and PS/2 keyboard interfaces are electrically identical
-- only the physical connector is different.
--As for the rest, it is mine.
The physical connector is
System Info: 8.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #0: Tue Aug 10 11:43:36 EDT 2010,
and xorg-server-1.7.7_1,1 X.Org X server and related programs
Not having updated my ports in nearly 1 year, I did a sledgehammer approach with
portmaster as follows:
portmaster -D -R -f -m BATCH=yes -a
This took a
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