Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-09 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:37 PM, David Jackson djackson...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote: On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Da Rock freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au wrote: On 01/03/12 12:06, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote:

Re: FreeBSD on kvm

2012-01-06 Thread Damien Fleuriot
On 1/6/12 11:43 AM, Alessandro Baggi wrote: Hi list, i've a problem running freebsd as a guest on linux+kvm. The only problem is that sometimes, when I boot the system it dies and this happens also if I run the vm with and without -nographic option. Using the qemu GUI I can see the it stops

Re: FreeBSD on kvm

2012-01-06 Thread Alessandro Baggi
On 01/06/2012 12:50 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: On 1/6/12 11:43 AM, Alessandro Baggi wrote: Hi list, i've a problem running freebsd as a guest on linux+kvm. The only problem is that sometimes, when I boot the system it dies and this happens also if I run the vm with and without -nographic

Re: FreeBSD on kvm

2012-01-06 Thread Damien Fleuriot
On 1/6/12 4:18 PM, Alessandro Baggi wrote: On 01/06/2012 12:50 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: On 1/6/12 11:43 AM, Alessandro Baggi wrote: Hi list, i've a problem running freebsd as a guest on linux+kvm. The only problem is that sometimes, when I boot the system it dies and this happens also if

Re: FreeBSD on kvm

2012-01-06 Thread Alessandro Baggi
On 01/06/2012 05:40 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: On 1/6/12 4:18 PM, Alessandro Baggi wrote: On 01/06/2012 12:50 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: On 1/6/12 11:43 AM, Alessandro Baggi wrote: Hi list, i've a problem running freebsd as a guest on linux+kvm. The only problem is that sometimes, when I

Re: FreeBSD on kvm

2012-01-06 Thread Damien Fleuriot
On 1/6/12 5:50 PM, Alessandro Baggi wrote: On 01/06/2012 05:40 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: On 1/6/12 4:18 PM, Alessandro Baggi wrote: On 01/06/2012 12:50 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: On 1/6/12 11:43 AM, Alessandro Baggi wrote: Hi list, i've a problem running freebsd as a guest on linux+kvm.

Re: FreeBSD on kvm

2012-01-06 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 17:50:41 +0100, Alessandro Baggi wrote: Leaving delay boot to 10 sec, always block. Set delay boot to 1, it give me some crash. There is a possibility to run directly the system instead print the menu? I must install lilo/grub? Let's first assume that you did not install

Re: FreeBSD on kvm

2012-01-06 Thread Alessandro Baggi
On 01/06/2012 06:12 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: On 1/6/12 5:50 PM, Alessandro Baggi wrote: On 01/06/2012 05:40 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: On 1/6/12 4:18 PM, Alessandro Baggi wrote: On 01/06/2012 12:50 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: On 1/6/12 11:43 AM, Alessandro Baggi wrote: Hi list, i've a

Re: FreeBSD on kvm

2012-01-06 Thread Damien Fleuriot
On 1/6/12 6:20 PM, Alessandro Baggi wrote: On 01/06/2012 06:12 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: On 1/6/12 5:50 PM, Alessandro Baggi wrote: On 01/06/2012 05:40 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: On 1/6/12 4:18 PM, Alessandro Baggi wrote: On 01/06/2012 12:50 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: On 1/6/12 11:43 AM,

Re: FreeBSD on kvm

2012-01-06 Thread Alessandro Baggi
On 01/06/2012 06:24 PM, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 17:50:41 +0100, Alessandro Baggi wrote: Leaving delay boot to 10 sec, always block. Set delay boot to 1, it give me some crash. There is a possibility to run directly the system instead print the menu? I must install lilo/grub?

Re: FreeBSD on kvm

2012-01-06 Thread Alessandro Baggi
On 01/06/2012 06:28 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: On 1/6/12 6:20 PM, Alessandro Baggi wrote: On 01/06/2012 06:12 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: On 1/6/12 5:50 PM, Alessandro Baggi wrote: On 01/06/2012 05:40 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: On 1/6/12 4:18 PM, Alessandro Baggi wrote: On 01/06/2012 12:50

Re: FreeBSD on kvm

2012-01-06 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 18:49:41 +0100, Alessandro Baggi wrote: On 01/06/2012 06:24 PM, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 17:50:41 +0100, Alessandro Baggi wrote: Leaving delay boot to 10 sec, always block. Set delay boot to 1, it give me some crash. There is a possibility to run directly

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-04 Thread Walter Alejandro Iglesias
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 09:55:04PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 02:07:36PM -0800, Chip Camden wrote: Quoth Chad Perrin on Tuesday, 03 January 2012: So . . . please start with the denotative meanings of words, consider your audience, and use words accordingly. If

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-04 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 12:33:28PM +0100, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote: On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 09:55:04PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 02:07:36PM -0800, Chip Camden wrote: Quoth Chad Perrin on Tuesday, 03 January 2012: So . . . please start with the

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-04 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 06:17:55AM -0500, Jerry wrote: On Tue, 3 Jan 2012 18:16:30 -0600 (CST) Robert Bonomi articulated: He did *NOT* ask the prior poster to explain why it _would_be_ morally correct...HE demanded that they explain why it *IS* morally correct... quote Would you

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-04 Thread Walter Alejandro Iglesias
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 08:50:45AM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 12:33:28PM +0100, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote: On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 09:55:04PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 02:07:36PM -0800, Chip Camden wrote: Quoth Chad Perrin on Tuesday,

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-04 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Walter Alejandro Iglesias roque...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 08:50:45AM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 12:33:28PM +0100, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote: On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 09:55:04PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: On Tue,

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-04 Thread Jerry
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 09:00:12 -0700 Chad Perrin articulated: You just ignored the salient point of what Robert Bonomi said, in favor of trivialities. If you prefer, pretend he said: HE asked that they explain why it *IS* morally correct... The point he was making is no less present and

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-04 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 06:02:23PM +0100, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote: Confuse and annoy people? Oh boy, confuse and annoy mature people is not so easy. Flame wars? I am not an adolescent, I have real problems in my life. Don't be stupid. On that ironic note, I will cease trying to

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-04 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 12:34:52PM -0500, Jerry wrote: On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 09:00:12 -0700 Chad Perrin articulated: You just ignored the salient point of what Robert Bonomi said, in favor of trivialities. If you prefer, pretend he said: HE asked that they explain why it *IS* morally

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-04 Thread Lyubomir Grigorov
Mainly to Jerry and Chad, but anyone contributing to the flame and OT fest, How I feel whenever I see people argue on the internet http://i.imgur.com/biopQ.gif -- Lyubomir Grigorov (bgalakazam) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-04 Thread Robert Bonomi
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 06:17:55AM -0500, Jerry wrote: On Tue, 3 Jan 2012 18:16:30 -0600 (CST) Robert Bonomi articulated: He did *NOT* ask the prior poster to explain why it _would_be_ morally correct...HE demanded that they explain why it *IS* morally correct... quote Would you

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-04 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 12:47:52PM -0800, Lyubomir Grigorov wrote: Mainly to Jerry and Chad, but anyone contributing to the flame and OT fest, Note that there are more than one persons using the name Jerry. Where I might dip in to an argument a bit, especially if I see humor in it, I never

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-04 Thread Jerry
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 13:13:55 -0700 Chad Perrin articulated: Serious Chad, I could not care less what you think. Why the heck did you ask for it, then? Fair enough, because in your post dated: On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 23:55:26 -0700, you make this remark: I think the statement was more like Someone

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-04 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 04:16:15PM -0500, Jerry wrote: On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 13:13:55 -0700 Chad Perrin articulated: Why the heck did you ask for it, then? Fair enough, because in your post dated: On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 23:55:26 -0700, you make this remark: I think the statement was more like

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-04 Thread Mario Lobo
On Wednesday 04 January 2012 17:47:52 Lyubomir Grigorov wrote: Mainly to Jerry and Chad, but anyone contributing to the flame and OT fest, How I feel whenever I see people argue on the internet http://i.imgur.com/biopQ.gif -- Lyubomir Grigorov (bgalakazam) Yes! humor. I think open-sore

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-04 Thread Robert Bonomi
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Wed Jan 4 11:39:20 2012 Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 12:34:52 -0500 From: Jerry je...@seibercom.net To: FreeBSD freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 09:00:12 -0700 Chad Perrin articulated

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-04 Thread Michael Ross
Am 04.01.2012, 23:00 Uhr, schrieb Mario Lobo l...@bsd.com.br: On Wednesday 04 January 2012 17:47:52 Lyubomir Grigorov wrote: Mainly to Jerry and Chad, but anyone contributing to the flame and OT fest, How I feel whenever I see people argue on the internet http://i.imgur.com/biopQ.gif --

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-04 Thread Jerry
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 14:47:44 -0700 Chad Perrin articulated: On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 04:16:15PM -0500, Jerry wrote: On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 13:13:55 -0700 Chad Perrin articulated: Why the heck did you ask for it, then? Fair enough, because in your post dated: On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 23:55:26

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-04 Thread Da Rock
On 01/05/12 06:47, Lyubomir Grigorov wrote: Mainly to Jerry and Chad, but anyone contributing to the flame and OT fest, How I feel whenever I see people argue on the internet http://i.imgur.com/biopQ.gif LOL ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-04 Thread Da Rock
On 01/05/12 08:25, Michael Ross wrote: Am 04.01.2012, 23:00 Uhr, schrieb Mario Lobo l...@bsd.com.br: On Wednesday 04 January 2012 17:47:52 Lyubomir Grigorov wrote: Mainly to Jerry and Chad, but anyone contributing to the flame and OT fest, How I feel whenever I see people argue on the

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-04 Thread Da Rock
On 01/05/12 08:39, Jerry wrote: I have noticed that somehow you have managed to piss off at least two other posters in the past 48 hours. In every case, you claim to have been basically misunderstood. I wonder, could a pattern be emerging? And you, Jerry, have successfully managed to piss off a

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-03 Thread Walter Alejandro Iglesias
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 04:41:10PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: New users are nearly always dismayed at the apparent difficulty of things, and should be warned that they will need to do some work under the hood in order to get what they want. The honesty can start immediately, it doesn't

Re: freebsd server limits question

2012-01-03 Thread Ross Cameron
Hi there Huhammet What are the contents of the following files on you're CentOS 6.x shards ? /etc/security/limits.confand /etc/security/limits.d/90-nproc.conf What version of MongoDB are you running, is it from packages (if so who's) or is it self compiled? Have you tried running the

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-03 Thread Da Rock
On 01/03/12 22:12, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote: On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 04:41:10PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: New users are nearly always dismayed at the apparent difficulty of things, and should be warned that they will need to do some work under the hood in order to get what they want. The

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-03 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Da Rock freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au wrote: On 01/03/12 12:06, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote: On Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 12:33:20PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: Ubuntu, actually, has thrown out the baby with the bathwater.  In its zeal to make

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-03 Thread Mark Felder
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 08:46:54 -0600, Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote: I would just like to add that is FreeBSD was so crappy open sour software, why does it run half the Internet? This must be a mistake. I was just assured this weekend that FreeBSD is a niche OS.

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-03 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 09:01:47AM -0600, Mark Felder wrote: On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 08:46:54 -0600, Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote: I would just like to add that is FreeBSD was so crappy open sour software, why does it run half the Internet? This must be a mistake. I was just assured

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-03 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 3 Jan 2012 09:01:47 -0600, Mark Felder wrote: On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 08:46:54 -0600, Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote: I would just like to add that is FreeBSD was so crappy open sour software, why does it run half the Internet? This must be a mistake. I was just assured this

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-03 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Tue, 3 Jan 2012 09:01:47 -0600, Mark Felder wrote: On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 08:46:54 -0600, Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote: I would just like to add that is FreeBSD was so crappy open sour software, why does it run half

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-03 Thread Mark Felder
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 09:14:52 -0600, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: Maybe consider the chance that a FreeBSD OS can be turned into closed source (which the license explicitely allows) and put into some embedded device, a router, a DSL modem, a managed switch... In parts like this, you won't

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-03 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Polytropon wrote: Maybe consider the chance that a FreeBSD OS can be turned into closed source (which the license explicitely allows) and put into some embedded device, a router, a DSL modem, a managed switch... In parts like this, you won't recognize FreeBSD anymore. If you consider such

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-03 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 03:06:11AM +0100, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote: On Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 12:33:20PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: Ubuntu, actually, has thrown out the baby with the bathwater. In its zeal to make things just work in a particular manner, it seems hell-bent on ignoring

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-03 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 01:12:11PM +0100, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote: On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 04:41:10PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: New users are nearly always dismayed at the apparent difficulty of things, and should be warned that they will need to do some work under the hood in order

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-03 Thread Walter Alejandro Iglesias
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 11:14:01AM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 01:12:11PM +0100, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote: On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 04:41:10PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: New users are nearly always dismayed at the apparent difficulty of things, and should be warned

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-03 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Chad Perrin on Tuesday, 03 January 2012: On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 01:12:11PM +0100, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote: On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 04:41:10PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: New users are nearly always dismayed at the apparent difficulty of things, and should be warned that they

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-03 Thread Jerry
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 12:33:20 -0700 Chad Perrin articulated: Now you have really peaked my interest. On any given day, on a Windows based forum, the terms: FreePiss, open-sore, Lsuck etcetera are freely thrown around. On Linux based forums, terms like: Winblows, Microsucks, etcetera are

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-03 Thread Jeffrey McFadden
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Jerry je...@seibercom.net wrote: On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 12:33:20 -0700 Chad Perrin articulated: Now you have really peaked Piqued. Although it is misused here.

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-03 Thread Robert Bonomi
Jerry je...@seibercom.net wrote: Chad Perrin articulated: Now you have really peaked my interest. On any given day, on a Windows based forum, the terms: FreePiss, open-sore, Lsuck etcetera are freely thrown around. On Linux based forums, terms like: Winblows, Microsucks, etcetera

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-03 Thread Kevin Zheng
Jerry, FreeBSD Questions isn't the place to argue about how all OSes should use a universal API, and how Ubuntu is doing such a good job. In an ideal world, everyone would speak the same language, use the same currency, and have identical power outlets. Unfortunately, the last time I checked, we

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-03 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 02:07:36PM -0800, Chip Camden wrote: Quoth Chad Perrin on Tuesday, 03 January 2012: So . . . please start with the denotative meanings of words, consider your audience, and use words accordingly. If you wish to use a term differently than how it is understood,

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-02 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 11:55:26PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 09:14:20AM -0500, Jerry wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 22:56:45 +1000 Da Rock articulated: If you want to verify, then by all means parouse this list and others (even in the linux community) over the past

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-02 Thread Jerry
On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 23:55:26 -0700 Chad Perrin articulated: On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 09:14:20AM -0500, Jerry wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 22:56:45 +1000 Da Rock articulated: If you want to verify, then by all means parouse this list and others (even in the linux community) over the past

Re: Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-02 Thread sykadul
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Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-02 Thread Da Rock
On 01/02/12 23:31, Jerry wrote: On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 23:55:26 -0700 Chad Perrin articulated: On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 09:14:20AM -0500, Jerry wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 22:56:45 +1000 Da Rock articulated: If you want to verify, then by all means parouse this list and others (even in the linux

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-02 Thread Joe Gain
Jerry, What you're saying is that, 'you guys think that FreeBSD is a great desktop workstation, but it's not and anyone who says it is, is wrong. Anyone who says FreeBSD's not a great workstation because it doesn't have some particular feature is right and any discussion which questions the value

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-02 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 08:31:14AM -0500, Jerry wrote: On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 23:55:26 -0700 Chad Perrin articulated: On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 09:14:20AM -0500, Jerry wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 22:56:45 +1000 Da Rock articulated: If you want to verify, then by all means parouse this list

RE: freebsd server limits question

2012-01-02 Thread Devin Teske
-Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Muhammet S. AYDIN Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 11:13 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: freebsd server limits question Hello everyone. My first

Re: freebsd server limits question

2012-01-02 Thread Sergio de Almeida Lenzi
hello... I supose you are using 64bits version of FreeBSD and at least 8.2 version... What happens is that you have exhausted the thread limit of your appplication your systeam is unable to create more threads for that appplication a command: sysctl -a | grep thread will show how they are setted

Re: freebsd server limits question

2012-01-02 Thread Eduardo Morras
At 20:12 02/01/2012, Muhammet S. AYDIN wrote: Hello everyone. My first post here and I'd like to thank everyone who's involved within the FreeBSD project. We are using FreeBSD on our web servers and we are very happy with it. We have an online messaging application that is using mongodb. Our

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-02 Thread Nikola Pavlović
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 03:32:17PM -0500, David Jackson wrote: An OS should strive to be a better platform for many people, including techies and non-techies. A good software design philosophy is that good software works out of the box without configuration using reasonable defaults, but,

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-02 Thread Nikola Pavlović
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 02:59:20PM -0500, David Jackson wrote: FreeBSD is very well documented! I guess a lot of people can't cope with how structured and professional it is. They are used to chaos, fear, uncertainty and doubt and feel comfortable that way. My experience is that

Re: freebsd server limits question

2012-01-02 Thread Robert Boyer
To deal with this kind of traffic you will most likely need to set up a mongo db cluster of more than a few instances… much better. There should be A LOT of info on how to scale mongo to the level you are looking for but most likely you will find that on ruby forums NOT on *NIX boards…. The OS

Re: freebsd server limits question

2012-01-02 Thread mikel king
On Jan 2, 2012, at 4:21 PM, Robert Boyer wrote: To deal with this kind of traffic you will most likely need to set up a mongo db cluster of more than a few instances… much better. There should be A LOT of info on how to scale mongo to the level you are looking for but most likely you will

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-02 Thread Mario Lobo
On Monday 02 January 2012 18:42:44 Nikola Pavlović wrote: On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 03:32:17PM -0500, David Jackson wrote: [troll snipper] . perhaps could be a porting of the IOKit driver system from Darwin, perhaps even allowing Darwin drivers to be used on FreeBSD. All of this can go

Re: freebsd server limits question

2012-01-02 Thread Robert Boyer
Sorry one more thought and a clarification…. I have found that it is best to run mongos with each app server instance most of the mongo interface libraries aren't intelligent about the way that they distribute requests to available mongos processes. mongos processes are also relatively

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-02 Thread Walter Alejandro Iglesias
On Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 12:33:20PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: Ubuntu, actually, has thrown out the baby with the bathwater. In its zeal to make things just work in a particular manner, it seems hell-bent on ignoring all but one way to do things, even as it tries to dominate its entire market

Re: freebsd server limits question

2012-01-02 Thread Robert Boyer
Just realized that the MongoDB site now has some recipes up for what you really need to do to make sure you can handle a lot of incoming new documents concurrently…. Boy you had to figure this stuff out yourself just last year - I guess the mongo community has come a very long way…. Splitting

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-02 Thread Da Rock
On 01/03/12 12:06, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote: On Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 12:33:20PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: Ubuntu, actually, has thrown out the baby with the bathwater. In its zeal to make things just work in a particular manner, it seems hell-bent on ignoring all but one way to do

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-01 Thread Jerry
On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 09:03:38 +1000 Da Rock articulated: Mac doesn't support all hardware from what I understand, and the only system with 100% hardware support is Winblows. Given the design philosophy of Winblows, how well written do you think the hardware drivers are coded? For that

Re: Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-01 Thread sykadul
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Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-01 Thread Da Rock
On 01/01/12 21:42, Jerry wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 09:03:38 +1000 Da Rock articulated: Mac doesn't support all hardware from what I understand, and the only system with 100% hardware support is Winblows. Given the design philosophy of Winblows, how well written do you think the hardware

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-01 Thread Jerry
On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 22:56:45 +1000 Da Rock articulated: On 01/01/12 21:42, Jerry wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 09:03:38 +1000 Da Rock articulated: Mac doesn't support all hardware from what I understand, and the only system with 100% hardware support is Winblows. Given the design

Re: Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-01 Thread sykadul
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Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 395, Issue 10

2012-01-01 Thread Jeffrey McFadden
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 6:00 AM, freebsd-questions-requ...@freebsd.orgwrote: Send freebsd-questions mailing list submissions to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Matthew Seaman wrote: Message: 9 Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 09:34:02 + From: Matthew Seaman

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-01 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 09:14:20AM -0500, Jerry wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 22:56:45 +1000 Da Rock articulated: If you want to verify, then by all means parouse this list and others (even in the linux community) over the past _five_ (thats 5) years. I am not sure what parouse means.

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2011-12-31 Thread Joe Gain
Writers who rely on ideological positions such as (socialism || fascism || jedi-knight == good | bad) really need to go visit a social science mailing list. It's not like political/ religious mailing lists don't exist. My positivist take on things: 1. Nobody is stopping anybody from changing

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2011-12-31 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 12/31/2011 01:02 PM, Joe Gain wrote: Writers who rely on ideological positions such as (socialism || fascism || jedi-knight == good | bad) really need to go visit a social science mailing list. It's not like political/ religious mailing lists don't exist. My positivist take on things: 1.

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2011-12-31 Thread David Jackson
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Bas Smeelen b.smee...@ose.nl wrote: On 12/31/2011 01:02 PM, Joe Gain wrote: Writers who rely on ideological positions such as (socialism || fascism || jedi-knight == good | bad) really need to go visit a social science mailing list. It's not like political/

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2011-12-31 Thread David Jackson
An OS should strive to be a better platform for many people, including techies and non-techies. A good software design philosophy is that good software works out of the box without configuration using reasonable defaults, but, that that the software should be flexible, very configurable, the

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2011-12-31 Thread Da Rock
On 01/01/12 06:32, David Jackson wrote: An OS should strive to be a better platform for many people, including techies and non-techies. A good software design philosophy is that good software works out of the box without configuration using reasonable defaults, but, that that the software

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2011-12-30 Thread Da Rock
On 12/30/11 16:39, Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:43:16 -0500, David Jackson wrote: However, My finding is that due to poor documentation, [...] That kind of statement doesn't fit well to FreeBSD which is known for its excellent documentation, often considered superior to other open

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2011-12-30 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 30/12/2011 11:52, Da Rock wrote: I haven't looked, but it would be good to have some irc channels handled by the team though. http://wiki.freebsd.org/IrcChannels Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2011-12-30 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 07:39:58 +0100 Polytropon articulated: However, there are differences in how you judge documentation to be _good_. Talk to a mainframer, and he will tell you a different story. Then talk to a Windows person and explain what documentation is, and he'll tell you that you

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2011-12-30 Thread Da Rock
On 12/30/11 22:15, Jerry wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 07:39:58 +0100 Polytropon articulated: However, there are differences in how you judge documentation to be _good_. Talk to a mainframer, and he will tell you a different story. Then talk to a Windows person and explain what documentation is,

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2011-12-30 Thread Da Rock
On 12/30/11 22:11, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 30/12/2011 11:52, Da Rock wrote: I haven't looked, but it would be good to have some irc channels handled by the team though. http://wiki.freebsd.org/IrcChannels Ha! There you go... I've only just been finding out about the value of irc in the

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2011-12-30 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 07:15:00 -0500, Jerry wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 07:39:58 +0100 Polytropon articulated: However, there are differences in how you judge documentation to be _good_. Talk to a mainframer, and he will tell you a different story. Then talk to a Windows person and explain

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2011-12-30 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 22:35:46 +1000 Da Rock articulated: Was this really necessary to post to the list? Publicly? Opinions are your own, but this does appear rather vindictive and not really wanted on a friendly list. For reference Polytropon has been rather helpful many times on this list

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2011-12-30 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 08:05:10 -0500, Jerry wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 22:35:46 +1000 Da Rock articulated: Was this really necessary to post to the list? Publicly? Opinions are your own, but this does appear rather vindictive and not really wanted on a friendly list. For reference

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2011-12-30 Thread Da Rock
On 12/30/11 23:05, Jerry wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 22:35:46 +1000 Da Rock articulated: Was this really necessary to post to the list? Publicly? Opinions are your own, but this does appear rather vindictive and not really wanted on a friendly list. For reference Polytropon has been rather

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2011-12-30 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 14:22:30 +0100 Polytropon articulated: From man iwn: Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965/1000/5000/5150/5300/6000/6050 IEEE 802.11n driver So they actually got support for one such device. I refer you to

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2011-12-30 Thread David Jackson
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 1:04 AM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.comwrote: From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Thu Dec 29 21:46:36 2011 Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:43:16 -0500 From: David Jackson djackson...@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Kernel

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2011-12-30 Thread Jason Lenthe
On 12/30/11 09:59, Jerry wrote: If FreeBSD really wanted to make a quality product they would hire competent programmers to create the drivers, etcetera that are seriously needed. They do. See this for a list of FreeBSD Foundation funded projects that have been completed:

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2011-12-30 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 09:59:14 -0500, Jerry wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 14:22:30 +0100 Polytropon articulated: From man iwn: Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965/1000/5000/5150/5300/6000/6050 IEEE 802.11n driver So they actually got support for one such device. I refer you to

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2011-12-30 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 10:22:31 -0500, David Jackson wrote: Of course, those best able to document are those who wrote it in the first place, since they already know how it works. A fact seems to be: Modern programmers don't bother with documenting, or coding guidelines, or style or other things

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2011-12-30 Thread doug
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 10:22:31 -0500, David Jackson wrote: Of course, those best able to document are those who wrote it in the first place, since they already know how it works. A fact seems to be: Modern programmers don't bother with documenting, or

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2011-12-30 Thread David Jackson
Again, as we did discuss (and agree upon) before, supporting FreeBSD is not in the scope of hardware manufacturers. Supporting more than the platform they get aliments for simply wouldn't pay. The unit sales for _this_ world of IT are simply to low to justify the work. That is the chicken

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2011-12-30 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 14:56:59 -0500, David Jackson wrote: Again, as we did discuss (and agree upon) before, supporting FreeBSD is not in the scope of hardware manufacturers. Supporting more than the platform they get aliments for simply wouldn't pay. The unit sales for _this_ world of

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2011-12-30 Thread Robert Bonomi
David Jackson djackson...@gmail.com wrte: Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.comwrote: David Jackson djackson...@gmail.com wrte: ... However, My finding is that due to poor documentation, ... [ sneck remaineder of ill-informed trolling ] Start with The Design and Implementation

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2011-12-29 Thread Robert Bonomi
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Thu Dec 29 21:46:36 2011 Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:43:16 -0500 From: David Jackson djackson...@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation I have had an interest in studying the FreeBSD kernel and

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