Re: AMD64 and NPX

2006-02-28 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 05:35:27PM -0300, cdsinf wrote: Is device npx not needed on a kernel built for FreeBSD 6 AMD64? That is correct. It's an i386 thing. Kris pgpemQyHRusB1.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: amd64 + RAID freezing system

2005-12-23 Thread Daniel Rench
On 12/22/05, Georg Auernhammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! i have an amd64 with Sata 80Gig Hardisk and extra RAID: [...] newfs and mounting ar0 works. but as sonn as i am trying to write data on the RAID, the system freezes. i had some problems writing the label to ar0s1d but after

Re: amd64 + RAID freezing system

2005-12-23 Thread Georg Auernhammer
i have an amd64 with Sata 80Gig Hardisk and extra RAID: [...] newfs and mounting ar0 works. but as sonn as i am trying to write data on the RAID, the system freezes. i had some problems writing the label to ar0s1d but after some reboots he managed to write the label on ar0. only

Re: amd64 + RAID freezing system

2005-12-23 Thread Daniel Rench
On 12/23/05, Georg Auernhammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] But it shouldnt freeze. Its a RAID 10, or do you think there are more than 1 disks broken? I know it shouldn't freeze, but in my case I had a bad drive and as far as the Promise controller was concerned, the drive was good. Through trial and

Re: AMD64 vs i386 on a Dual Opteron Box

2005-10-12 Thread Andrew P.
On 10/12/05, Nathan Vidican [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've been encountering some difficulty between OpenLDAP/nss/pam/FreeBSD/samba over the past few months and really since inception. After countless recompiles of samba, working with samba and openldap code, we've traced it to being an issue

Re: AMD64 vs i386 on a Dual Opteron Box

2005-10-12 Thread Nathan Vidican
Thanks, I did not realize that there was an RC1 out for 6.0 already. Any ideas how far off 6.0-RELEASE may be? Realistically the O/S has become the least important issue on these servers; they're basically ldap/nss clients sharing data via samba from UFS file systems... a drop-in replacement

Re: AMD64 vs i386 on a Dual Opteron Box

2005-10-12 Thread Andrew P.
On 10/12/05, Nathan Vidican [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, I did not realize that there was an RC1 out for 6.0 already. Any ideas how far off 6.0-RELEASE may be? Realistically the O/S has become the least important issue on these servers; they're basically ldap/nss clients sharing data via

Re: AMD64 question

2005-09-26 Thread Helge Preuss
Eric Murphy wrote: [...] however if i run make buildkernel kernconf=GREED it runs but uses the GENERIC kernel This sets the variable ${kernconf}, which is ignored, because make looks for ${KERNCONF}. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing

Re: AMD64 question

2005-09-25 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 01:05:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Eric Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: AMD64 question To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Hey guys im having trouble complieing a custem kernel for this version of BSD I mkae a copy of the GENERIC

Re: AMD64 vs. i386

2005-08-06 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Fri, 5 Aug 2005 19:46:48 -0500 Joseph Sniderman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can I install the i386 version of FreeBSD on an AMD64(athelon64) based computer? Yes! Best of luck, Andrew Gould ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: AMD64 vs. i386

2005-08-06 Thread Garrett Cooper
Joseph Sniderman wrote: Can I install the i386 version of FreeBSD on an AMD64(athelon64) based computer? Yes, but what what libs and programs you may install that are i386 based as opposed to 64-bit. You can seriously 'screw' up your system by having several programs be unrunnable if

Re: AMD64 vs. i386

2005-08-06 Thread RW
On Saturday 06 August 2005 21:37, Garrett Cooper wrote: Joseph Sniderman wrote: Can I install the i386 version of FreeBSD on an AMD64(athelon64) based computer? Yes, but what what libs and programs you may install that are i386 based as opposed to 64-bit. You can seriously 'screw' up

Re: amd64 status

2005-06-02 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Thursday 02 June 2005 03:36 pm, Miguel Miranda wrote: Hi list, i have heard a lot of good things about opteron servers, im going to upgrade several old production servers (thinking on hp dl145 or sun v20z, sugestions?), is the amd64 port stable enough to use it on production?, what about

Re: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install)

2005-04-13 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 01:10:42AM -0500, Edgar Martinez wrote: All, I cant begin to tell you how horrible of a time I have had trying to get this system installed and running. Sysinstall kept throwing up a privilege fault kernel error randomly (7sed...4m.7m..etc), and after I go fast

RE: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install)

2005-04-13 Thread Edgar Martinez
: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 5:23 AM To: Edgar Martinez Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install) On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 01:10:42AM -0500, Edgar Martinez wrote: All, I cant begin to tell you how horrible

RE: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install)

2005-04-13 Thread Edgar Martinez
Its using the default bios settings and nothing is overclocked at all.. -Original Message- From: Trevor Sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 9:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post

RE: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install)

2005-04-13 Thread Edgar Martinez
New error before death Panic: page fault -Original Message- From: Trevor Sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 9:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install) Edgar Martinez

RE: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install)

2005-04-13 Thread Edgar Martinez
, 2005 9:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install) Edgar Martinez wrote: New error before death Panic: page fault -Original Message- From: Trevor Sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April

RE: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install)

2005-04-13 Thread Edgar Martinez
Message- From: Alex Zbyslaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 9:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install) Edgar Martinez wrote: OK, removed all misc cards, devices, recabled...attempting

Re: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install)

2005-04-13 Thread NMH
--- Edgar Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, I cant begin to tell you how horrible of a time I have had trying to get this system installed and running. Sysinstall kept throwing up a privilege fault kernel error randomly (7sed...4m.7m..etc), and after I go fast enough to get

RE: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install)

2005-04-13 Thread Edgar Martinez
PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 2:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; questions Subject: Re: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install) --- Edgar Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, I cant begin to tell you how horrible of a time I have had

Re: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install)

2005-04-13 Thread jason henson
Edgar Martinez wrote: All, I cant begin to tell you how horrible of a time I have had trying to get this system installed and running. Sysinstall kept throwing up a privilege fault kernel error randomly (7sed...4m.7m..etc), and after I go fast enough to get lucky to an install complete..the

Re: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install)

2005-04-13 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 08:20:23PM -0400, jason henson wrote: snip MSI K8T Neo AMD64 3000 w/1MB I was just reading the archives this week at freebsd.org and it leads me to believe msi make crap boards. They can not handle tough loads or lots of ram. I think it was in the amd64 list

RE: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install)

2005-04-13 Thread Edgar Martinez
-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install) Edgar Martinez wrote: All, I cant begin to tell you how horrible of a time I have had trying to get this system installed and running. Sysinstall kept throwing up a privilege fault

Re: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install)

2005-04-13 Thread jason henson
] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD64 (former i386 convert)+ FreeBSD various issues in 5.3, 5.4 (pre+post install) Edgar Martinez DTR stands for desktop replacement notebook. You have a cpu for a powerful notebook, but I think it would still be a low powered desktop cpu

Re: AMD64 optimization on FreeBSD 5.4 i386

2005-04-05 Thread Bachelier Vincent
: From: Conrad J. Sabatier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org To: Bachelier Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 06:54:00 -0500 Subject: Re: AMD64 optimization on FreeBSD 5.4 i386 On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 09:35:32 +0200, Bachelier Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi

Re: AMD64 optimization on FreeBSD 5.4 i386

2005-04-04 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
On 04 Apr Bachelier Vincent wrote: Does I compile with march=k8 under cflags ? for example: CFLAGS=-O2 -march=k8 -pipe CXXFLAGS=$CFLAGS Well, what do you think ? could I optimize more than CPUTYPE=k8 ? ok see ya Don't have an answer to /your/ question, but mine is related (I

Re: AMD64 optimization on FreeBSD 5.4 i386

2005-04-04 Thread Andrew P.
Dick Hoogendijk wrote: On 04 Apr Bachelier Vincent wrote: Does I compile with march=k8 under cflags ? for example: CFLAGS=-O2 -march=k8 -pipe CXXFLAGS=$CFLAGS Well, what do you think ? could I optimize more than CPUTYPE=k8 ? Don't have an answer to /your/ question, but mine is

Re: AMD64 optimization on FreeBSD 5.4 i386

2005-04-04 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 09:35:32 +0200, Bachelier Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have a AMD64 and use FreeBSD 5.4 i386. Why aren't you using the amd64 version of FreeBSD? I have set CPUTYPE=k8 to optimize a little for my computer. I have seen they set march=athlon-mp when it compile

Re: AMD64 optimization on FreeBSD 5.4 i386

2005-04-04 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:13:51 +0200, Dick Hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't have an answer to /your/ question, but mine is related (I think). Is it still advisable to have -O -pipe in /etc/make.conf? I have a duron 800. Does the -O2 flag give more errors or is it better than using the

RE: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre

2005-03-25 Thread Boris Spirialitious
--- Subhro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 20:53 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD64 much slower than i386

Re: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre

2005-03-24 Thread em1897
- From: Nick Pavlica [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Boris Spirialitious [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:05:59 -0700 Subject: Re: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre Hi Boris, I haven't had an opportunity to work with any AMD64 hardware yet

Re: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre

2005-03-24 Thread em1897
of this propaganda. The cluelessness in the performance list is a good indication. -Original Message- From: jason henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 00:57:58 -0500 Subject: Re: AMD64 much slower than i386

RE: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre

2005-03-24 Thread Subhro
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 20:53 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre I think that warning people

Re: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre

2005-03-24 Thread em1897
Maybe you shouldn't prejudge. Its clear than no one with their own addresses has any answers. -Original Message- From: Subhro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:37:12 +0530 Subject: RE: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4

Re: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre

2005-03-24 Thread em1897
I think the point of a list is so that someone can say oh yes, I had problems with the em driver in amd64 also; try card X. But instead you get a lot of people with no real idea trying to explain away the problem, as if there is no chance that the amd64 implementant just plain sucks wind. If

Re: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre

2005-03-24 Thread Boris Spirialitious
--- jason henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The answer, Boris, is that the team has no idea what they're doing. Check out some of the threads on performance testing. They tune little pieces here and there, and break 10 other things in the process.

Re: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre

2005-03-24 Thread Boris Spirialitious
I think you may be right. I try Broadcom gigE card with same results. Very slow for amd64 build. With same hardware, very good results with 4.9/i386, not too bad with 5.4-pre/i386, and very, very poor with 5.4-pre/amd64. Boris --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the point of a list is so that

Re: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre

2005-03-23 Thread em1897
The answer, Boris, is that the team has no idea what they're doing. Check out some of the threads on performance testing. They tune little pieces here and there, and break 10 other things in the process. Matt Dillon determined that 10,000 ints/second was optimal. Of course if you're passing 10Kpps

Re: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre

2005-03-23 Thread jason henson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The answer, Boris, is that the team has no idea what they're doing. Check out some of the threads on performance testing. They tune little pieces here and there, and break 10 other things in the process. Matt Dillon determined that 10,000 ints/second was optimal. Of course

Re: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre

2005-03-23 Thread em1897
  The answer, Boris, is that the team has no idea what  they're doing. Check out some of the threads on  performance testing. They tune little pieces here  and there, and break 10 other things in the process.  Matt Dillon determined that 10,000 ints/second  was optimal. Of course if you're passing

Re: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre

2005-03-23 Thread Nick Pavlica
Hi Boris, I haven't had an opportunity to work with any AMD64 hardware yet, but have had good results with 5.4.? on i686. I can relate to your frustration, but can say that I was able to greatly improve 5.x performance with some effort. For example I went from a maximum sustained disk write of

Re: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre

2005-03-23 Thread jason henson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The answer, Boris, is that the team has no idea what they're doing. Check out some of the threads on performance testing. They tune little pieces here and there, and break 10 other things in the process. Matt Dillon determined that 10,000 ints/second was optimal.

Re: AMD64 very slow!

2005-03-22 Thread Emanuel Strobl
Am Mittwoch, 23. März 2005 00:38 schrieb Boris Spirialitious: I have opteron 246 system with 2 port intel em card. We have test bed with about 200Kbs traffic and we route through 5.3/i386 system. Load is about 50%. With same settings, amd64 system run with 85% load. How could be so slow?

Re: AMD64 very slow!

2005-03-22 Thread Boris Spirialitious
-- Emanuel Strobl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Mittwoch, 23. März 2005 00:38 schrieb Boris Spirialitious: I have opteron 246 system with 2 port intel em card. We have test bed with about 200Kbs traffic and we route through 5.3/i386 system. Load is about 50%. With same settings, amd64

Re: AMD64 very slow!

2005-03-22 Thread Emanuel Strobl
Am Mittwoch, 23. März 2005 01:19 schrieb Boris Spirialitious: -- Emanuel Strobl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Mittwoch, 23. März 2005 00:38 schrieb Boris Spirialitious: I have opteron 246 system with 2 port intel em card. We have test bed with about 200Kbs traffic and we route through

Re: amd64

2004-09-08 Thread Toni Schmidbauer
On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 12:50:55PM -0700, ann kok wrote: I can't install cvsup-without-gui and said it doesn't support amd64 http://people.freebsd.org/~peter/cvsup-without-gui-16.1h.tbz a simple google query would have revealed that link hth, toni -- Wer es einmal so weit gebracht hat, dass

Re: AMD64 Woes

2004-07-28 Thread Andre Guibert de Bruet
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004, Remi wrote: I just got a new AMD64 laptop(I8254) and it appears to be running at 800MHz on 5.2.1-R CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ (800.03-MHz K8-class CPU) I have no idea how to fix this! Would upgrading to -CURRENT help at all? First, you could start by not

Re: AMD64 Woes

2004-07-28 Thread Phil Brennan
Just force the cpu speed to high in your bios setup. On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 19:46:22 -0700, Remi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just got a new AMD64 laptop(I8254) and it appears to be running at 800MHz on 5.2.1-R CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ (800.03-MHz K8-class CPU) I have no idea how

RE: AMD64 Woes

2004-07-28 Thread Remi
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AMD64 Woes Just force the cpu speed to high in your bios setup. On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 19:46:22 -0700, Remi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just got a new AMD64 laptop(I8254) and it appears to be running at 800MHz on 5.2.1-R CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64

Re: AMD64 support: FreeBSD v.s. Gentoo

2004-07-26 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Does Gentoo or FreeBSD have better support for the AMD64 architecture at this point? what is gentoo? is it some new OS or linux distro? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe,

Re: AMD64 support: FreeBSD v.s. Gentoo

2004-07-26 Thread Björn Lindström
Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does Gentoo or FreeBSD have better support for the AMD64 architecture at this point? what is gentoo? is it some new OS or linux distro? It's a Linux distribution, so I assume the question was meant to be: Does Linux or FreeBSD for the AMD64

Re: AMD64 support: FreeBSD v.s. Gentoo

2004-07-26 Thread jam man
--- Björn_Lindström [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does Gentoo or FreeBSD have better support for the AMD64 architecture at this point? what is gentoo? is it some new OS or linux distro? It's a Linux distribution, so I assume the question was

Re: AMD64 support: FreeBSD v.s. Gentoo

2004-07-26 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Does Linux or FreeBSD for the AMD64 architecture at this point? It doesn't really matter...yes gentoo is a linux distro. and its the only linux distro I would consider with the AMD64 architecture. I was looking to see if one moment. distribution is distribution, linux is a kernel. CPU

[Half OT]Re: AMD64 support: FreeBSD v.s. Gentoo

2004-07-26 Thread Jorn Argelo
On Monday 26 July 2004 20:41, jam man wrote: --- Björn_Lindström [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does Gentoo or FreeBSD have better support for the AMD64 architecture at this point? what is gentoo? is it some new OS or linux distro?

Re: [OT]Re: AMD64 support: FreeBSD v.s. Gentoo

2004-07-26 Thread Simon Barner
One interesting point for desktop users is that Gentoo automatically compiles X.org as a dependency of KDE rather then XFree86. And I must say, my TFT is quite sharper then it was with XFree86. Since some days, -current defaults to X.org. Users of other FreeBSD version can update their ports

Re: [OT]Re: AMD64 support: FreeBSD v.s. Gentoo

2004-07-26 Thread Wojciech Puchar
quite sharper then it was with XFree86. Since some days, -current defaults to X.org. Users of other FreeBSD version can update their ports and have a look at /usr/ports/UPDATING howto switch from XFree to X.org i'm of of topic in X.org and XFree - what's the difference? any URL? thanks

Re: [OT]Re: AMD64 support: FreeBSD v.s. Gentoo

2004-07-26 Thread Radek Kozlowski
On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 11:28:02PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: quite sharper then it was with XFree86. Since some days, -current defaults to X.org. Users of other FreeBSD version can update their ports and have a look at /usr/ports/UPDATING howto switch from XFree to X.org i'm of

Re: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-07-02 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Jun 30, 2004 at 01:17:35AM -0400, Kenneth Culver wrote: Quoting Doug White [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Me either. -current actually supports running i386 binaries in amd64 mode. Thats one of the processor's features. :-) You can't run amd64 binaries when booted into an i386 OS, of course.

Re: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-07-02 Thread Kenneth Culver
Quoting David O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Jun 30, 2004 at 01:17:35AM -0400, Kenneth Culver wrote: Quoting Doug White [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Me either. -current actually supports running i386 binaries in amd64 mode. Thats one of the processor's features. :-) You can't run amd64 binaries when

RE: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-06-29 Thread Remi
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 6:29 AM To: Kenneth Culver Cc: Michal Pasternak; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Remi; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; David O'Brien Subject: Re: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD On Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 06:03:52PM -0400, Kenneth Culver wrote: So far my athlon 64 3200+ has

Re: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-06-29 Thread Daniel O'Connor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:58, Remi wrote: toward the 1.7GHz Centrino, but I hear a lot of problems with FreeBSD working right with Centrino, is this correct? What are the issues? Works fine here (Dell Inspiron 8600). - - Modem doesn't work (no

Re: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-06-29 Thread Arne Schwabe
Remi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well I just got an email back from the manufacturer of the AMD64 laptop I wanted to buy. Im not sure how it works when switching 64 to i386, but they say it's not supported in the BIOS(I assume this is where it is suppose to be changed) So now I come to a cross

RE: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-06-29 Thread Kenneth Culver
Quoting Remi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well I just got an email back from the manufacturer of the AMD64 laptop I wanted to buy. Im not sure how it works when switching 64 to i386, but they say it's not supported in the BIOS(I assume this is where it is suppose to be changed) So now I come to a cross

Re: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-06-29 Thread Bruce M Simpson
On Tue, Jun 29, 2004 at 02:36:27PM +0200, Arne Schwabe wrote: You can't change the cpu speed while running at the Moment, I don't see any other iusses at the Moment with my Notebook (IBM T40). I too have an IBM T40. It gives me much love, daily. BMS

RE: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-06-29 Thread Doug White
On Tue, 29 Jun 2004, Kenneth Culver wrote: It runs OK, with some minor nits compared to x86 version. I'm not sure what the laptop maker is talking about... but if you boot the x86 version of FreeBSD, it'll work. I think they meant you can't switch from amd64 to x86 after already booting an

RE: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-06-29 Thread Remi
: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 7:31 AM To: Remi Cc: 'Brooks Davis'; 'Michal Pasternak'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'David O'Brien' Subject: RE: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD Quoting Remi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well I just got an email back from the manufacturer of the AMD64 laptop I wanted to buy

RE: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-06-29 Thread Kenneth Culver
Quoting Doug White [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 29 Jun 2004, Kenneth Culver wrote: It runs OK, with some minor nits compared to x86 version. I'm not sure what the laptop maker is talking about... but if you boot the x86 version of FreeBSD, it'll work. I think they meant you can't switch from amd64

RE: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-06-29 Thread Kenneth Culver
Quoting Remi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just to clarify exactly what you mean. I can the x86 version of BSD with no changes to the BIOS, jumpers or anything on an AMD64? Sorry in advanced if this is a stupid question, Ive never dealt with anything but x86 Yeah, no changes anywhere. I have my machine set

Re: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-06-28 Thread Jon Noack
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Remi; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 08:30, David O'Brien wrote: I have a choice between AMD64 3200+ and a P4 2.8GHz with HT. Which one would you

Re: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-06-28 Thread Kenneth Culver
Quoting Michal Pasternak [EMAIL PROTECTED]: David O'Brien [Sat, Jun 26, 2004 at 04:00:26PM -0700]: You do know you can run FreeBSD/i386 on the Athlon64 3200+ laptop, right? :-) A 3200+ running 32-bit FreeBSD will out-perform the P4 2.8GHz running the same OS. ... but will it outperform it also

Re: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-06-28 Thread Brooks Davis
On Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 06:03:52PM -0400, Kenneth Culver wrote: So far my athlon 64 3200+ has been one of the coolest running processors I've ever owned... although I've never used it in a laptop, my friend's p4 2.8 is running a lot hotter... Yes, current AMD64 CPUs are fairly lower power

RE: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-06-27 Thread Remi
PROTECTED] Cc: Remi; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 08:30, David O'Brien wrote: I have a choice between AMD64 3200+ and a P4 2.8GHz with HT. Which one would you guys recommend to run

Re: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-06-26 Thread David O'Brien
On Sat, Jun 26, 2004 at 02:37:54PM -0700, Remi wrote: Im in the market for a new laptop. Right now I'm looking at HyperSonic laptops. I have a choice between AMD64 3200+ and a P4 2.8GHz with HT. Which one would you guys recommend to run FreeBSD. Obviously the i386 would be easier to run,

Re: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-06-26 Thread Michal Pasternak
David O'Brien [Sat, Jun 26, 2004 at 04:00:26PM -0700]: You do know you can run FreeBSD/i386 on the Athlon64 3200+ laptop, right? :-) A 3200+ running 32-bit FreeBSD will out-perform the P4 2.8GHz running the same OS. ... but will it outperform it also by heat dissipation? -- m

Re: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD

2004-06-26 Thread Daniel O'Connor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 08:30, David O'Brien wrote: I have a choice between AMD64 3200+ and a P4 2.8GHz with HT. Which one would you guys recommend to run FreeBSD. Obviously the i386 would be easier to run, so I guess my question is what is the

Re: amd64 (Intern)

2004-05-25 Thread Jorn Argelo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I`m very close to byu a AMD64 system, but I`m not quite sure how it will work on FreeBSD. Is there something I should be aware about? Some mainboards maybe? And how about S-ATA on these boards? (I will probably run 5-CURRENT) -- Med vennlig hilsen Christer Solskogen

Re: amd64 -CURRENT: portinstall x11/kde3 fails, missing shared libraries

2004-03-18 Thread Burkard Meyendriesch
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 23:04:24 -0800 Kris Kennaway wrote: On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 07:58:35AM +0100, Burkard Meyendriesch wrote: Are there any differences in making ports between i386 STABLE and amd64 CURRENT? What is going wrong? What can I do to solve this? Compare the build logs of the

Re: amd64 -CURRENT: portinstall x11/kde3 fails, missing shared libraries

2004-03-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 07:58:35AM +0100, Burkard Meyendriesch wrote: Are there any differences in making ports between i386 STABLE and amd64 CURRENT? What is going wrong? What can I do to solve this? Compare the build logs of the openldap port from i386 and amd64; it's possible the build is

Re: AMD64

2004-02-09 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 10:16:49PM -0500, Shah Amit wrote: Hi all, I have an AMD-64 bit processor on my emachines laptop that I got from circuitcity. The model is emachines - 6805 - AMD64Bit, 15 WXGA ... It is a relatively new laptop just released on like 19th Jan. I already inquired

Re: Amd64 and FreeBSD performance

2003-09-27 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 04:18:31PM -0400, SKU wrote: Greetings! Can anyone using a Amd64 and FreeBSD comment on the performance times during buildworlds? I currently buildworld 2-3 times a day and am looking for a system that can complete these tasks much quicker. Ask on the amd64 mailing

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