On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:12:05AM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> What is it that this Debian GNU/kFreeBSD ships in those 7 DVDs?
Please ask that on one of their mailing lists; it's out of scope for
the two mailing lists you posted to.
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On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Chad Perrin wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 07:12:08PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> >
> > I fail to understand why manufacturers would let people install SSDs on
> > machines when their life is so much in question.
>
> I fail to see why a manufacturer wou
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On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Mark Linimon wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:12:05AM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> > What is it that this Debian GNU/kFreeBSD ships in those 7 DVDs?
>
> Please ask that on one of their mailing lists; it's out of scope for
> the two mailing lists you pos
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:53:18AM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Chad Perrin wrote:
> >
> > You'd surely be happier with a better OS on it, though -- right?
>
> Chad, on the "Desktop", I'd rather run the ratware from Redmond than try
> FreeBSD! The second c
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 02:23:53 -0700
Chad Perrin articulated:
> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:53:18AM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Chad Perrin
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > You'd surely be happier with a better OS on it, though -- right?
> >
> > Chad, on the "Desk
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 07:38:01 -0500
Jerry wrote:
> Despite all of the rubbish the FOSS community
> has spewed for over 10 years, OpenOffice is nothing more than a poor
> clone of Office 97. The newly released "libreoffice" might be usable
> someday; however, it is now only in its infancy. There is
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 07:38:01 -0500, Jerry wrote:
> "Bloat" is a purely subjective term.
It's not.
> What one user considers bloat
> could very well be a requirement for another use. For example, while
> you might consider it bloat to have drivers for modern wireless "N"
> protocol cards, many
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 13:10:51 +, Bruce Cran wrote:
> For some, Office is unusable due to the new Ribbon interface and
> libreoffice is the usable office suite due to its familiar menus.
Users who have already used PCs are familiar with the menu
technique of functionality presentation. Scanning
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 13:10:51 +
Bruce Cran articulated:
> On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 07:38:01 -0500
> Jerry wrote:
>
> > Despite all of the rubbish the FOSS community
> > has spewed for over 10 years, OpenOffice is nothing more than a poor
> > clone of Office 97. The newly released "libreoffice" mi
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 08:58:05 -0500, Jerry wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 13:10:51 +
> Bruce Cran articulated:
>
> > On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 07:38:01 -0500
> > Jerry wrote:
> >
> > > Despite all of the rubbish the FOSS community
> > > has spewed for over 10 years, OpenOffice is nothing more than
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 08:58:05 -0500
Jerry wrote:
> New, as in four years old? That is one of the worst straw man
> arguments I have heard in a while. In any case, In 2008
> OpenOffice.org started the project Renaissance to improve the user
> interface of OpenOffice. So far the prototypes of the pr
This is a new one for me. I decided to do a manual update on my 8.1
box, starting with csup. Buildworld went fine, as did buildkernel.
However, when I tried to install the new kernel installkernel choked
with an error message telling me that it could not proceed because the
root partition wa
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 07:38:01AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
>
> "Bloat" is a purely subjective term. What one user considers bloat
> could very well be a requirement for another use. For example, while
> you might consider it bloat to have drivers for modern wireless "N"
> protocol cards, many other us
So... how about those solid state drives... yup.
-Modulok-
On 2/13/11, Chad Perrin wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 07:38:01AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
>>
>> "Bloat" is a purely subjective term. What one user considers bloat
>> could very well be a requirement for another use. For example, while
>> y
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 08:58:05AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 13:10:51 +
> Bruce Cran articulated:
>
> > On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 07:38:01 -0500
> > Jerry wrote:
> >
> > > Despite all of the rubbish the FOSS community
> > > has spewed for over 10 years, OpenOffice is nothing more
Rem Roberti writes:
> This is a new one for me. I decided to do a manual update on my
> 8.1 box, starting with csup. Buildworld went fine, as did
> buildkernel. However, when I tried to install the new kernel
> installkernel choked with an error message telling me that it
> could not proc
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Chad Perrin wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 08:58:05AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
>> On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 13:10:51 +
>> Bruce Cran articulated:
>>
>> > On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 07:38:01 -0500
>> > Jerry wrote:
>> >
>> > > Despite all of the rubbish the FOSS community
>>
On 13 February 2011 16:51, Rem Roberti wrote:
> This is a new one for me. I decided to do a manual update on my 8.1 box,
> starting with csup. Buildworld went fine, as did buildkernel. However,
> when I tried to install the new kernel installkernel choked with an error
> message telling me that
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 08:51:12 -0800, Rem Roberti wrote:
> This is a new one for me. I decided to do a manual update on my 8.1
> box, starting with csup. Buildworld went fine, as did buildkernel.
> However, when I tried to install the new kernel installkernel choked
> with an error message tel
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 09:42:54 -0700
Chad Perrin wrote:
> There's no use pretending MS Windows never has issues with the
> efficacy of its autoconfiguration. Most of us have used that OS
> quite a lot, and know that problems arise -- and that, unlike with
> open source OSes, it's actually fairly c
Odhiambo Washington writes:
> My question is: WHY need 7 DVDs??? DVDs?? Even M$ does not do such a crazy
> thing with its bloat-ware!! FreeBSD ships 1 DVD.
> What is it that this Debian GNU/kFreeBSD ships in those 7 DVDs?
They contain all packages for that architecture. They are the
equivalent
On 02/13/11 09:01, Robert Huff wrote:
Rem Roberti writes:
This is a new one for me. I decided to do a manual update on my
8.1 box, starting with csup. Buildworld went fine, as did
buildkernel. However, when I tried to install the new kernel
installkernel choked with an error message
On 13 February 2011 13:53, Rem P Roberti wrote:
> On 02/13/11 09:01, Robert Huff wrote:
>>
>> Rem Roberti writes:
>>
>>> This is a new one for me. I decided to do a manual update on my
>>> 8.1 box, starting with csup. Buildworld went fine, as did
>>> buildkernel. However, when I tried to ins
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:05:51PM -0500, Maxim Khitrov wrote:
>
>
> Can you guys please take Microsoft bashing elsewhere? This thread is
> about FreeBSD and SSDs - a topic I'd like to hear more about from
> people with first-hand experience in running such setup.
>
> - Max
Agreed. I posted my s
Rem Roberti writes:
This is a new one for me. I decided to do a manual update on my
8.1 box, starting with csup. Buildworld went fine, as did
buildkernel. However, when I tried to install the new kernel
installkernel choked with an error message telling me that it
could not procee
Quoth ill...@gmail.com on Sunday, 13 February 2011:
> On 13 February 2011 13:53, Rem P Roberti wrote:
> > On 02/13/11 09:01, Robert Huff wrote:
> >>
> >> Rem Roberti writes:
> >>
> >>> This is a new one for me. I decided to do a manual update on my
> >>> 8.1 box, starting with csup. Buildworld
Remove all the *.symbols files (if you're not going
to be debugging).
Build with "makeoptions DEBUG=-g" commented out
of your kernel config.
(my root filesystem has 70M used. On amd64, no less)
I knew that I asked a dumb question when I asked where to find the
kernel config. OK...I commen
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 10:31:24 -0800, Rem P Roberti wrote:
> Getting rid of all those .symbols files made a big difference. Where do
> I locate the kernel config file?
It is /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/ or /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/
depending on your architecture; GENERIC is the name of the default
ker
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 10:53:09 -0800, Rem P Roberti wrote:
> I completely misspoke, having confused the hard drive in question with
> another box. This drive is a 40G drive, of which 500MB was allotted for
> root.
For a current FreeBSD system, this is a bit too small
(although sufficient under c
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Frank Shute wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:05:51PM -0500, Maxim Khitrov wrote:
> >
> >
> > Can you guys please take Microsoft bashing elsewhere? This thread is
> > about FreeBSD and SSDs - a topic I'd like to hear more about from
> > people with first-hand e
On 13.02.2011 19:50, Adam Vande More wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Frank Shute wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:05:51PM -0500, Maxim Khitrov wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Can you guys please take Microsoft bashing elsewhere? This thread is
>>> about FreeBSD and SSDs - a topic I'd like to
Quoth Chad Perrin on Sunday, 13 February 2011:
>
> OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice offer functionality MS Office does not,
> just as MS Office offers functionality they do not. Different people
> have different needs, and those office suites serve slightly different
> needs. On the other hand, Op
I'm back in business, and the update finished without any more
problems. However...the output of df is now really strange:
root@ /etc: df
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail
Capacity Mounted on
/dev/label/rootfs0 507630326732 140288
Quoth Bruce Cran on Sunday, 13 February 2011:
> On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 09:42:54 -0700
> Chad Perrin wrote:
>
> > There's no use pretending MS Windows never has issues with the
> > efficacy of its autoconfiguration. Most of us have used that OS
> > quite a lot, and know that problems arise -- and th
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:05:51PM -0500, Maxim Khitrov wrote:
>
> Can you guys please take Microsoft bashing elsewhere? This thread is
> about FreeBSD and SSDs - a topic I'd like to hear more about from
> people with first-hand experience in running such setup.
Perhaps responding to the "FreeBSD
On 02/13/11 10:44, Polytropon wrote:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 10:31:24 -0800, Rem P Roberti wrote:
Getting rid of all those .symbols files made a big difference. Where do
I locate the kernel config file?
It is /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/ or /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/
depending on your architecture; GEN
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:29:15AM -0800, Chip Camden wrote:
>
> But for users who do not wish to learn anything and who want to use
> their computer the same way they use their DVD player or their electric
> toothbrush, the Microsoft Way fits the bill.
I think you're being too kind to the obviou
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:10:26AM -0800, Chip Camden wrote:
>
> Hey, I just found out that libreoffice can open all those old .WRI files
> that MS Office no longer recognizes! Thanks for the tip!
My pleasure.
I bet it doesn't have the old Windows Write memory leak, either -- which,
by the way,
I'm writing a C program which, for various reasons, has the
warning level turned _way_ up.
I'm now getting this:
/usr/include/readline/readline.h:336: warning: redundant redeclaration of
'rl_make_bare_keymap'
/usr/include/readline/keymaps.h:74: warning: previous declaration of
'
Quoth Robert Huff on Sunday, 13 February 2011:
> I'm writing a C program which, for various reasons, has the
> warning level turned _way_ up.
> I'm now getting this:
>
> /usr/include/readline/readline.h:336: warning: redundant redeclaration of
> 'rl_make_bare_keymap'
> /usr/include/re
Chip Camden writes:
> >I'm writing a C program which, for various reasons, has the
> > warning level turned _way_ up.
> >I'm now getting this:
> >
> > /usr/include/readline/readline.h:336: warning: redundant redeclaration of
> 'rl_make_bare_keymap'
> > /usr/include/readline/keymap
Hi;
I am following 8-CURRENT AMD64. I have a Phenom II 955. Up to the 3rd week of
January, I had 8-STABLE. Idle CPU temp was 42~44 C (which is already not
excellent, i know) and full load would never go above 60 C (compiling VBox
from KDE, for instance).
After updating to 8.2-PRERELEASE, my t
Quoth Robert Huff on Sunday, 13 February 2011:
> Chip Camden writes:
>
> > > I'm writing a C program which, for various reasons, has the
> > > warning level turned _way_ up.
> > > I'm now getting this:
> > >
> > > /usr/include/readline/readline.h:336: warning: redundant redeclaration
> >
People "usually" suspend their laptop, so that they can continue their work
when they open the laptop. OK!
Two choices [GNOME]:
1 - Menu -> Shut Down -> Suspend
in this case, the gnome-screensaver locks the PC. but the gnome-screensaver is
just a "normal process", and it could be killed e.
> From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Sun Feb 13 17:00:08 2011
> From: Robert Huff
> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 17:56:12 -0500
> To: Chip Camden
> Cc: questi...@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: problem when including readline.h
>
>
> Chip Camden writes:
>
> > > I'm writing a C program which, for va
Yo guys,
First something offtopic. Even tho it was thanks to help from
members of this list that i was able to publish my novel about a
disabled computer nerd, nobody here bit. i thought at least many of
y'all would buy and share ... but nope. I'd be much obliged for
feedback--OFFLIST. If I
Can you use windows programs in freebsd?
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If you install wine, yes.
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Dieter wrote:
> Can you use windows programs in freebsd?
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On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Jack L. wrote:
> If you install wine, yes.
Uhmm good luck with that, I think maybe we should ask him to define
"programs"
> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Dieter wrote:
> > Can you use windows programs in freebsd?
> > _
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Outback Dingo wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Jack L. wrote:
>>
>> If you install wine, yes.
If all else fails, you can always install virtualbox and install
windows to run windows apps on freebsd. That works great for my needs
:)
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On July 24, 2010 08:04AM, Paul B Mahol wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Gautham Ganapathy wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I have an Alienware m11x with a Dell 1520 wireless minicard (Broadcom
>> BCM4353 chipset). It comes with only Windows 7 drivers, but I was able to
>> download Windows XP drivers se
"Jack L." wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Dieter wrote:
> > Can you use windows programs in freebsd?
>
> If you install wine, yes.
_and_ if the windows programs you want to run _work_ in wine.
Wine intends to become a complete win32 implementation, but:
1. It's not there yet. Many
Chip Camden wrote:
> But for users who do not wish to learn anything ...
> the Microsoft Way fits the bill.
^
Of course. It's his company. But does it fit anyone else?
>;-)
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