RE: Fwd: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anthony Atkielski Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 9:02 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD? Daniel writes: would not these things be worthy of implementing in FreeBSD? this way other big companies would use it, pay you guys for it and FreeBSD will grow stronger... There are other obstacles to deployment of FreeBSD in large organizations. The main one is a lack of formal, guaranteed support. This afflicts Linux, also, to some extent, depending on the distribution. Even for supported Linux distributions, the support is often very limited in comparison to that available for systems such as Solaris, Windows, or even Mac OS X. Not for Red Hat, at least not anymore. The entire reason for making Red Hat commercial was to emulate as closely as possible the same type of $upport $tructure and co$ts that Microsoft provides. The problem is that the largest companies need more than just a technically superior operating system. That's why they are still buying Solaris and Windows. This is a gross simplification of the realities. The reality is they are still buying Solaris because the back end apps they run on it - big company apps that is, like Peoplesoft and SAP - require it. And they are still buying Microsoft Windows because they don't have a choice - because the low-end desktop computers that business purchase all come with Windows preloaded on it. And they are still buying Microsoft Office because their users are demanding it. But if you think that support is the reason for large companies buying Windows, I have a bridge to sell you. Every large company admin I've ever talked to with a Microsoft support contract all say that their paid support sucks. The only good thing I've ever heard about Microsoft support was the per-incident Developer support, which is $250 per incident, and is handled by a completely separate group than the regular paid support. Microsoft understood years ago that if you want to lock in the business market, the key is to lock in the application developers to your platform. Businesses if given a choice would go for Linux - but they aren't given a choice because the applications they want to run don't run on Linux - because Microsoft has in many cases told those application developers that if they offer Linux versions of their products, they won't get the same level of support from Microsoft than if they remain loyal. (this is one of the behaviors that was stopped by the antitrust trial - however, many ISV's still to this day will tell you that they believe they get better support from Microsoft if they don't support Linux) Years ago I worked for Symantec, and it is this very reason why for years no Symantec applications were offered for Linux. At the time the CEO, Gordon Eubanks (who was apparently pushed out of or got tired of Symantec around 2000 or thereabouts) prohibited development along those lines. (Eubanks was asked in 1999 by Bill Gates to testify in support of Microsoft at the antitrust trial) This was done solely to enable the Symantec development team to get inside information about Windows from Microsoft. This also is why Microsoft fought the idea of divestiture of Office applications which was proposed as a remedy for the trial. (indeed, it's the only remedy that made any sense at all) With Office apps supplied by a different company post-trial, it would be illegal for them to give special data to the Office company in exchange for preventing a port of Office to Linux. Since they own Office and have succeeded in killing off all other business office suite vendors, they can prevent new ones from getting a foothold by using their inside information tricks, and they can refuse to port to Linux. None of these dirty tricks are needed by businesses, contrary to your assertions. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD?
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 11:48:05 -0500 (EST), Jerry McAllister wrote: would not these things be worthy of implementing in FreeBSD? this way other big companies would use it, pay you guys for it and FreeBSD will grow stronger... making a good OS that runs on cheap, low-end machines is nice, but the real money come from companies... Maybe. But the initial intent of FreeBSD was not making money. It was having an OS that the people creating it liked so they didn't have to muck around with the rest of the junk out there. by making money i did not meant necessarily big bank acocunts for the its developers but money that would allow developers to allocate more time to FreeBSD, enhancing it so that when someone, sys admin/company/ would want to setup a internet-aware (mail, web, fw, gw) server and at the same time keep the peace of mind, would think Of course!, we'll use FreeBSD, you'll see, it's awesome But, there is no reason that someone could not make such a system out of FreeBSD and charge for it - and probably make some significant money. I don't know if that should be the direction of the FreeBSD project per se though. Maybe, if those people who made the big system contributed their work back to FreeBSD it would be interesting. i hardly think that companies that use and enhance FreeBSD adding features that they (and maybe others) need, would submit back those enhacements - BSD license... Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LDAP/SASL/POSTFIX setup?
Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: Has anybody attempted to create Postfix installation with SASL authenticated via LDAP? Is it possible to do via the ports collection? Or do I need a patch? We are using cyrus-sasl2-saslauthd here with good results. LDAP is a build option in the port. HTH Per olof ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD?
On Feb 25, 2005, at 1:01 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: And they are still buying Microsoft Office because their users are demanding it. I don't believe this. I believe that a few users demand it, and by default everyone else gets it. Some manager or IT VP or someone decides that is the new corp standard and that is it. Chad ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Forcing upgrade of port
On Feb 25 at 18:39, Jeffery Fernandez said: I am trying to upgrade phpMyAdmin to the latest release 2.6.1-pl2 which has a few bugs fixed (One of them being critical for my usage). I have updated the ports tree with cvsup but it has not picked up the newer release (or maybe its not time to be updated in the ports tree.. not sure). So how do I go about updating my phpMyAdmin port to the latest release ? Is it just a matter of editing the MakeFile under /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin with the proper release number before make install clean ? Any suggestions welcome. I've never had any success with a phpmyadmin installation from ports. In your place I'd uninstall your existing port, and go grab the latest/greatest from http://www.phpmyadmin.net/home_page/index.php. There are a few apps I have gotten into the habit of getting directly, this is one of 'em. Another is php, and finally MySQL. Since I'm on the announce lists for all three, if another version comes along I can read the release notes in some detail, rather than trusting blindly and attempting to upgrade via ports...not that there's anything wrong with ports I *hasten* to add!! Everyone has their pet apps they want to know about in greater detailthose stated above are mine...YMMV of course. I know there are those with a liking for debate who will say; well surely that applies to every application, wouldn't you want to read the detailed release notes/changelog for foo-9.x.x before installing it, I mean why use the ports collection at all? I'm not going down that road. I'm just saying to you that there are likely many people who do the same with their own chosen apps and nothing beyond that. Don't anyone take this as being an invitation to emit/return a three month rambling series of non-sequiturs on the ports collection which inevitably leads to light switches and good environmental pracctices in pig farming. As always, just my $0.02 worth. Regards, -Colin -- Colin J. Raven FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE - http://www.FreeBSD.org - There can be only ONE Fri Feb 25 09:11:00 CET 2005 9:11AM up 5 days, 16:21, 7 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Fwd: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Daniel Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 12:04 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD? by making money i did not meant necessarily big bank acocunts for the its developers but money that would allow developers to allocate more time to FreeBSD, enhancing it so that when someone, sys admin/company/ would want to setup a internet-aware (mail, web, fw, gw) server and at the same time keep the peace of mind, would think Of course!, we'll use FreeBSD, you'll see, it's awesome Daniel, if I'm running a big company and I pay a developer a chunk of change for a distributed FreeBSD server manager program, or some such thing like that, I am not going to pay them if they are going to take the money and run out and work on their own projects. i hardly think that companies that use and enhance FreeBSD adding features that they (and maybe others) need, would submit back those enhacements - BSD license... Your wrong. There's lots of code and features that are in FreeBSD right now today that came from companies that used and enhanced FreeBSD. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD?
On Friday 25 February 2005 12:04 am, Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i hardly think that companies that use and enhance FreeBSD adding features that they (and maybe others) need, would submit back those enhacements - BSD license... Happens all the time - the goodwill is stronger than the license, or maybe it's because submitting improvements helps create a better OS for that company, as well as everyone else. Apple and Yahoo! are two notable examples. - jt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD?
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 18:02:20 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: would not these things be worthy of implementing in FreeBSD? this way other big companies would use it, pay you guys for it and FreeBSD will grow stronger... There are other obstacles to deployment of FreeBSD in large organizations. The main one is a lack of formal, guaranteed support. This afflicts Linux, also, to some extent, depending on the distribution. Even for supported Linux distributions, the support is often very limited in comparison to that available for systems such as Solaris, Windows, or even Mac OS X. making a good OS that runs on cheap, low-end machines is nice, but the real money come from companies... The problem is that the largest companies need more than just a technically superior operating system. That's why they are still buying Solaris and Windows. well, if a big company pays for support, those money would allow FreeBSD to have some more people (developers or not) focus on giving the support (fixing/answering) while the developers do their job...i believe this is quite natural course of action the reason for the above comments is that i think FreeBSD should come out in light and become more popular, not only in sys admin world, maybe just like Linux; yes, we know that it is used in many critical systems, that it is there, serving, provinding certainty; true, FreeBSD is like real things just happen, the press doesn't have to talk about it. Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 12:11 AM To: List Free Bsd Subject: Re: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD? On Feb 25, 2005, at 1:01 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: And they are still buying Microsoft Office because their users are demanding it. I don't believe this. I believe that a few users demand it, and by default everyone else gets it. Some manager or IT VP or someone decides that is the new corp standard and that is it. I think either you wern't paying attention in the big companies that you worked in or you haven't worked in big companies. Big companies have a longstanding personnel problem in that they tend to attract, for want of a better word, lazy bastards. That is not to say all big company employees are lazy, far far from it. Big companies also attract many very talented people. But there's a certain percentage of the workforce out there who are simply lazy bastards - these are people who do the absolute minimum amount of effort to get by. These folks don't want to work for small companies, where they are easily detected and fired. They want to work for big companies where they can hide. As a result of this despite the best pruning efforts, there's a large percentage of lazy bastards in any big company. Big company managers and personnel people are well aware of this problem, of course, but there's little they can do short of the periodic mass layoff, to combat it. What happens when you as a manager tell your lazy bastard employee to do a job, is they will find every conceivable excuse to avoid doing it. My computer is screwed up is a favorite one. Another one is I need training on that and I can't do the work until you give it to me It's not in my job description is another favorite. I'm sure any managers reading have heard all of these. If you put anything other than Microsoft Office in front of those people they will spend endless hours complaining about how much better a job they can do (as if they are capabable of doing anything better than their normal half-assed job of anything) if they have Microsoft office, because they know that better (translation, they are too lazy to learn something different) blah blah blah. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SCO file system mounting
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 01:13:06AM -0600, Aftab Jahan Subedar typed: Hauan David A wrote: -Original Message- From: Aftab Jahan Subedar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 2:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SCO file system mounting Hello to all. Would 'mount' mount the SCO file system ? Does any body know ? I presume the SCO system as partition type 2 or partition type 3 or partition type 0x63. If SCO is running... How about mount -t nfs? I used to do this all the time six/seven years ago with 3.2-RELEASE, I think that's what it was. dave Good idea . but the bad thing is its only running the serial terminals. no nic ! No problem. Use SLIP or PPP. Ruben ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where are the Xorg config files ?
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 05:58:46PM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: On Thursday, 24 February 2005 at 22:26:52 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 10:01:27AM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: On Thursday, 24 February 2005 at 22:59:54 +0100, Edward Lichtner wrote: Hi all, I installed FreeBSD 5.3 along with Xorg 6.7.0-9 and KDE 3.3.0-4. I started KDE by creating an .xinitrc file in my home directory containing the line : exec startkde I then run startx and KDE starts up and works fine. However, there is no xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 or in /usr/X11R6/etc/X11, and a ³find² search reveals no xorg.conf file anywhere. Since KDE seems to work out of the box, I assume there is a config file that has been generated for Xorg somewhere. Any idea where I can find it ? Look in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log. You should see something like: ... (==) Using config file: /etc/XF86Config (etc). You'll note in this case that it fell back to the XF86Config. This may be what's happening to you. You gave me a clue, but looking ikn in log at my Xorg.0.log file, doesn't help me much. It helps me a lot: (EE) Unable to locate/open config file ... (==) Using default built-in configuration (53 lines) (==) --- Start of built-in configuration --- Section Module You need to look at this config file. The first dozen+ lines make sense, but not much more. xdm only works without any config file. It works at 1600x1200 but everything quivers, so my guess is that I'm driving the tube to its max. Or beyond. Possibly. Any idea how I can get xorg.conf that runs things at 1280x1024? I've tried xorgcfg so far without success. What happened when you tried? Strangr things: xdm eventually brings up the gray stippled bg with the X cursor; then the CRT clicks, screen goes black, and after several seconds it retries. Seems to be in an infinite loop. Not even ctlaltFn gets me to an alt vtty long enough to log in and shutdown. I've had to power down to get out. Both xorgcfg and xorgconfig have the same results. gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: Compile FreeBSD RELENG_5 on FreeBSD 4-STABLE
I've did that two days ago.;-) Just cvsup everything and go to /usr/src Give the 'make buildworld' command. After that is finished: make buildkernel make installkernel reboot boot in single user mode then. mergemaster -p ( for etc files ) make installworld mergemaster reboot (now you have upgraded your system to a 5) Wouter van Rooij ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Daniel Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 8:35 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Fwd: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD? sorry, i should have sent this to entire list... On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 01:43:32 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote among others... FreeBSD does not have some of the things - such as distributed management of hundreds to thousands of FreeBSD servers over a large enterprise - that are a requirement for big companies. would not these things be worthy of implementing in FreeBSD? It isn't a question if they would be worthy. There's worth in implementing anything in FreeBSD of some level. It is much more a question that these sorts of tools are -very- complex if they are any good, complex to build, complex to maintain, and complex to operate. We are talking a tool that might take a few months of experience by someone already experienced in FreeBSD to become proficient with. Or a tool that might take a year for someone not already familiar with FreeBSD to become proficient with. Furthermore your only talking a very limited market for them. The model for this kind of tool is one where you have a handful of really experienced developers who are constantly working on them, and selling into a market of perhaps a couple hundred experienced admins in the world, if even that. Between them these tools control thousands of servers and desktops. That means, unfortunately, you have to extract a fairly hefty amount of money every year from that group of couple hundred experienced admins. You do that by licensing on a per-server basis, per-desktop basis, etc. Since the big companies can well afford this, it works out fine, but only as a commercial software offering. You cannot build these kinds of tools as a one-shot thing, or build to solve a specific problem, and have them last. making a good OS that runs on cheap, low-end machines is nice, but the real money come from companies... As has been said countless times in the past, the ideal Free Software model is one where you have a commons of core operating systems and general purpose applications that are open source, and companies then contract with developers to customize those applications to their specific needs. The commercial software approach has always been for the commercial companies to come out with a product that tries to do everything for everybody, and as a result does not do any one thing that well, and companies then modify their business processes to fit the software. Both approaches cost roughly the same money - with the Free Software model you spend it in labor, with the commercial software model you spend it in licensing. But with the Free Software model, you end up with customers getting exactly what they need. With the commercial model you end up with customers all working the same way their competitors are. another idea, a study of what features big companies want from an OS should be conducted...by you, maybe or some other people interested and these features be prioritized for FreeBSD... On the surface that seems like a reasonable way to get FreeBSD's usage increased. But there are some major reasons this wouldn't work. First, such a survey assumes that big companies know what features they want. The reality is often a big company will see a new feature they have never heard of before, never knew could even be implemented, and once they now know about it, they want it. In other words, your better off with a small team of people who are gurus, have a huge amount of experience in these environments, getting together and brainstorming. Second, this approach assumes that if you presented a big company with a OS that had every exact thing they wanted, that they would indeed switch to it. In reality they may still not switch, for example they may not believe your OS could do it, or the implementation problems would be too difficult. Kind of like dangling a lollypop in front of a kid who is on the other side of a 4 inch thick piece of glass - he would love to have it, he would be jealous that it's there and he can't get to it, but he still isn't going to be getting that lollypop. Third, this takes the does everything for everybody and not any one thing well approach. For example, you get 3 respondents, one wants item a, item b, item c, one wants item a, item c, item d, one wants item a and item e. You prioritize this and produce item a first, then item c. But after all that labor still nobody wants it - the first respondent can't use it because it's lacking item b, the second can't use it because it's lacking item d, the third can't use it because it's lacking item e. Another way of saying this is that while people can be statistically profiled, nobody ever exactly matches the profile, and thus in a situation where only an exact profile match will do, your statistical analysis of the
Re: time -l date == bash: -l: command not found Bug?
in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote Kris Kennaway thusly... On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 04:00:49AM +0200, P. B. S. wrote: PBS, Do wrap lines around 69 or so characters to give me no incentive to ignore your mail otherwise. time doesn't seem to accept any options. The first thing on the line after time is taken as the utility to execute. I need the -l option. Am I misusing time or what? Your shell (apparently bash) provides a builtin time function. If you want to use FreeBSD's time(1) binary, call it by absolute path (/usr/bin/time) Look also in bash(1) man page which states somewhere to use '\' in order to use the real command (as it appears in $PATH of course) and avoid built-in/alias. - Parv -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sempron
Please tell me if I can install freebsd in a Sempron 2400 machine. Thanks, Renato ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sempron
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005, Dr Renato Barrios wrote: Please tell me if I can install freebsd in a Sempron 2400 machine. Thanks, Yes it will install fine Rus -- e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : t: 01635 281120 http://www.vaserv.com - Now Open http://www.storemypic.com - Free Image Hosting http://www.vpsforums.com - Talk for VPS users and Providers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
nfsiod on FreeBSD 4.11
I'm running a FreeBSD 5.3-p5 server and several FreeBSD 4.11 clients. The clients run high levels of concurrency (web servers running several hundred processes at a time). The clients NFS connection tend to lockup when running nfsiod but (so far) appear not to when not running nfsiod. When the lockup occurs the send-q and recv-q on both ends tends to have somewhere around 33000 bytes. Even when the sendspace and recvspace is set to 65536. Any idea what each side is waiting for? If there's something I can do to help debug the issue let me know. -- Michael Conlen ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Julien Gabel Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 8:54 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD? Yes, i do. This is one of the aim of this initial fork of the FreeBSD ports collection (pkgsrc) to be used on multiple plateform and operating system (NetBSD, Solaris, Linux, AIX, etc.: a list of all the supported OSes can be found at http://www.pkgsrc.org/). Sure, it is not perfect, but it is a valuable tool. Interesting, I wasn't aware that pkgsrc was aiming to be cross-platform. Because sunfreeware.com provide binary only packages for Solaris, it is very convenient to be able to compile our own set of packages from source (and use our particular settings) or be able to install a software not provided on sunfreeware.com or not yet updated. It can then be possible to track and keep a real personalized third party software baseline on multiple release versions of one or more OSes (for example, have the same version of compilation tools or web server on Solaris 2.6, Solaris 9 and Linux). I don't think _one_ tool can solve of all problems, but use both the native and non-native (pkgsrc) tools/package manager can be a good compromise. The advantages i think of (at least :-)) - As with the FreeBSD ports collection, we can use an existing base of packages building from source (generally well up-to-date) with our own settings; - Management of software (or tools) dependancies; - Automatic checking for security vulnerabilities in installed packages; - Can generate binary package from our own sets, either manually or automatically using the bulk builds (for deployment for example); - Although compiled from source, you can managed installed packages via the pkg_* tools which is more convenient than from hands in /usr/local; - Don't interfer with supported native packages (from Sun) or non- supported packages (from sunfreeware.com, etc.). As a side note, it is interesting to note that although not considered part of Solaris 10 you can found a _reference_ to the The NetBSD Packages Collection on the Compagnion CD provided by Sun[1], among others. It would seems furthermore than there exists a specialized group in the NetBSD Project to handle specific PRs on this plateform (solaris-pkg-people) and that Sun will be using some form of pkgsrc for its contrib packages extras in Solaris[2] (i have not yet verify this). Last, Sun has contributed some hardware to help making bulk builds of pkgsrc on Solaris OS[3]. I don't say i disagree with your global point of view, just that the last two points may be slightly... moderated :) Solaris 2.6, 8, 9, 10 don't run on EISA. They also got rid of the alt-F keys for the multiple consoles. Yes, right :( 2.6 also included it's own perl, and I think later versions did too. Blech on that if you needed a later version of perl on the system. On Solaris 10 plateform, you can found Perl 5.8.4 and Perl 5.6.1. The default is to place Perl 5.8.4 as /usr/bin/perl. These Solaris versions were fine for big companies with lots of money to buy brand new Sun boxes (which ran them well). They were hideous for not so big companies that didn't want to have to throw perfectly good quad Pentium 200 servers with EISA hardware raid controllers and big SCSI arrays on them in the garbage. Maybe we can hope this will change in near future, with Solaris 10+. Oh, it's going to change eventually. Despite all Intel's work there is a practical limit to CPU speeds. Ultimately the desktop PC architecture is going to come to a halt in terms of speed increases, and will remain there unless the entire architecture is chucked out and replaced with something else (optical, perhaps?) Once that happens, software vendors will not be able to count on the increasing hardware speed making up for the shortcomings of their 4GL tools or scripts, or whatever quick hacked tools are that spew forth such bloated code. At that time, even throwing money into new hardware won't speed up the next version of whatever application is sold. Customers are going to force the ISV's into hand optimization, better yacc's, etc. And try building something like ImageMagik on Solaris 10 I will bet that at least 1 of the collection of libraries that this conglomerate program requires will not build without tweaks. Certainly. (FYI: currently, it breaks on the graphics/jasper dependancy on the 2004-Q4 branch) Hmm - jasper builds on my solaris box Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
growfs
Any idea why a growfs to this size works growfs: 493962.0MB (1011634176 sectors) block size 16384, fragment size 2048 using 2688 cylinder groups of 183.77MB, 11761 blks, 23552 inodes. with soft updates super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at: 1010881632, 1011257984 but a growfs to server# growfs -s 101222 /dev/da1s1d We strongly recommend you to make a backup before growing the Filesystem Did you backup your data (Yes/No) ? Yes new file systemsize is: 253055000 frags Warning: 209472 sector(s) cannot be allocated. growfs: 494145.8MB (1012010528 sectors) block size 16384, fragment size 2048 using 2689 cylinder groups of 183.77MB, 11761 blks, 23552 inodes. with soft updates super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at: 1011634336 growfs: rdfs: seek error: 237231962044550260: Unknown error: 0 fails while there is plenty of disk space available. The error doesn't seem to make sense and I'm thinking there's some value that's flipped out. -- Michael Conlen ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Forcing upgrade of port
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 06:39:52PM +1100, Jeffery Fernandez wrote:
I am trying to upgrade phpMyAdmin to the latest release 2.6.1-pl2 which
has a few bugs fixed (One of them being critical for my usage).
I have updated the ports tree with cvsup but it has not picked up the
newer release (or maybe its not time to be updated in the ports tree..
not sure). So how do I go about updating my phpMyAdmin port to the
latest release ? Is it just a matter of editing the MakeFile under
/usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin with the proper release number before
make install clean ? Any suggestions welcome.
Yikes. Give us a chance please. The pl2 release only happened last
night, and I've just submitted a PR to update the port. I'll attach
the diff from the PR (against the current ports tree) which you can
apply yourself if you're desperate for the new version before it all
gets processed.
Cheers,
Matthew
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diff -Nur /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin/Makefile phpmyadmin/Makefile
--- /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin/MakefileWed Jan 26 14:37:43 2005
+++ phpmyadmin/Makefile Fri Feb 25 10:50:33 2005
@@ -6,10 +6,12 @@
#
PORTNAME= phpMyAdmin
-DISTVERSION= 2.6.1
+PORTVERSION= 2.6.1.2
+#DISTVERSION= 2.6.1-pl2
CATEGORIES=databases www
MASTER_SITES= ${MASTER_SITE_SOURCEFORGE}
MASTER_SITE_SUBDIR=phpmyadmin
+DISTNAME= ${PORTNAME}-${PORTVERSION:C/\.(.)$/-pl\1/}
MAINTAINER=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
COMMENT= A set of PHP-scripts to manage MySQL over the web
diff -Nur /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin/Makefile~ phpmyadmin/Makefile~
--- /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin/Makefile~ Thu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970
+++ phpmyadmin/Makefile~Fri Feb 25 10:50:05 2005
@@ -0,0 +1,154 @@
+# New ports collection makefile for: phpMyAdmin
+# Date created:19 Jan 2001
+# Whom:nbm
+#
+# $FreeBSD: ports/databases/phpmyadmin/Makefile,v 1.25 2005/01/25 20:12:33 pav
Exp $
+#
+
+PORTNAME= phpMyAdmin
+PORTVERSION= 2.6.1.2
+DISTNAME= ${PORTNAME}-${PORTVERSION:C/\.(.)$/-pl\1/}
+#DISTVERSION= 2.6.1-pl2
+CATEGORIES=databases www
+MASTER_SITES= ${MASTER_SITE_SOURCEFORGE}
+MASTER_SITE_SUBDIR=phpmyadmin
+
+MAINTAINER=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
+COMMENT= A set of PHP-scripts to manage MySQL over the web
+
+USE_BZIP2= yes
+NO_BUILD= yes
+USE_PHP= mysql pcre
+
+# Unfortunately can't make WITH_SUPHP part of the OPTIONS selection,
+# since it has to be processed before just about anything else.
+
+.if defined(WITH_SUPHP) !defined(WITHOUT_SUPHP)
+
+PKGNAMESUFFIX= -suphp
+RUN_DEPENDS+= ${LOCALBASE}/sbin/suphp:${PORTSDIR}/www/suphp
+WANT_PHP_CGI= yes
+PKGINST_SKEL= ${PKGDIR}/pkg-install${PKGNAMESUFFIX}
+PKGINSTALL=${WRKDIR}/pkg-install${PKGNAMESUFFIX}
+PKGDEINST_SKEL=${PKGDIR}/pkg-deinstall${PKGNAMESUFFIX}
+PKGDEINSTALL= ${WRKDIR}/pkg-deinstall${PKGNAMESUFFIX}
+
+MYADMUSR?= phpmyadm
+
+SED_SCRIPT=-e 's,%%PREFIX%%,${PREFIX},g' \
+ -e 's,%%MYADMDIR%%,${MYADMDIR},g' \
+ -e 's,%%MYADMUSR%%,${MYADMUSR},g' \
+ -e 's,%%MYADMGRP%%,${MYADMGRP},g'
+
+.else
+
+WANT_PHP_WEB= yes
+
+.endif
+
+# Copy the way lang/php{4,5}-extensions deals with its OPTIONS -- avoids
+# problems with include of bsd.port.pre.mk
+
+OPTIONS= BZ2 bzip2 library support on \
+ GD GD library support on \
+ MYSQLI Improved MySQL support (PHP5, MySQL 4.1 only) off \
+ OPENSSL OpenSSL support on \
+ PDF PDFlib support (implies GD) on \
+ ZLIBZLIB support on
+
+PORT_DBDIR?= /var/db/ports
+LATEST_LINK= ${PORTNAME}${PKGNAMESUFFIX}
+OPTIONSFILE?= ${PORT_DBDIR}/${LATEST_LINK}/options
+
+.if exists(${OPTIONSFILE})
+.include ${OPTIONSFILE}
+.endif
+
+# Options that default to on:
+.for opt in BZ2 GD OPENSSL PDF ZLIB
+.if !defined(WITHOUT_${opt}) || defined(WITH_${opt})
+USE_PHP+= ${opt:L}
+.endif
+.endfor
+
+# Options that default to off:
+.for opt in MYSQLI
+.if defined(WITH_${opt}) !defined(WITHOUT_${opt})
+USE_PHP+= ${opt:L}
+.endif
+.endfor
+
+MSG_SKEL= ${PKGDIR}/pkg-message
+PKGMESSAGE=${WRKDIR}/pkg-message
+
+# MYADMUSR is only used WITH_SUPHP
+MYADMDIR?= www/phpMyAdmin
+MYADMGRP?= ${WWWGRP}
+CFGFILE= config.inc.php
+
+PLIST= ${WRKDIR}/plist
+PLIST_SUB+=MYADMDIR=${MYADMDIR} MYADMGRP=${MYADMGRP}
+
+.SILENT:
+
+do-build:
+ @${DO_NADA}
+
+pre-everything::
+ ${ECHO_MSG}
+ ${ECHO_MSG} You may use the following additional build option:
+ ${ECHO_MSG}
+ ${ECHO_MSG} WITH_SUPHP=yes Install appropriately for use with
+ ${ECHO_MSG}
I killed my system with grep
Hello FreeBSD friends: I am running a FreeBSD 5.3 system with 64MB RAM and 150 MB swap. Yesterday I entered the command: # grep -R something / and after a while, my system did not respond. I do not remember the exact messages as I am on a winbugs at the University. The error was about swapping. I could switch among terminals but the system was dead. I needed to reboot. I rebooted and tried again watching top output and I could see as swap usage was incresing very quickly until it ran out of swap space and the swap pager failed. Was my sytem dead? or, is it possible to recover from that state without rebooting? How is it possible that a simple command like this could auto-kill the machine? What is the recomended fix for this?: a- Asigning more swap. b- Not executing that command anymore. Thank you very much for your advices and help. Ramiro ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Forcing upgrade of port
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 09:12:03AM +0100, Colin J. Raven wrote: On Feb 25 at 18:39, Jeffery Fernandez said: I am trying to upgrade phpMyAdmin to the latest release 2.6.1-pl2 which has a few bugs fixed (One of them being critical for my usage). I've never had any success with a phpmyadmin installation from ports. In your place I'd uninstall your existing port, and go grab the latest/greatest from http://www.phpmyadmin.net/home_page/index.php. Speaking as the maintainer of the phpmyadmin port, what exactly is the problem you have been experiencing when installing phpmyadmin from ports? I can't say that I remember ever seeing a bug report from you -- and as far as I can tell from the testing I and the ports committers do, the port is working as it should. If you have discovered a problem, please do report it, as there's no way I can fix things if I don't know they're broken. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 8 Dane Court Manor School Rd PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Tilmanstone Tel: +44 1304 617253 Kent, CT14 0JL UK pgpWHDyXHcd5A.pgp Description: PGP signature
cd copy
What is the easiest way to copy a complete cdrom with freebsd-4.11? Normally I use burncd to burn an iso file to a new cdr, but I never copied a complete cdrom to cdr under freebsd. My windows machines are down and I need the copy soon. So please forgive me if I'm ignorant. Hope the answer is easy ;-) -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11 ++ FreeBSD 5.3 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Forcing upgrade of port
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 11:10:07AM +, Matthew Seaman wrote: Yikes. Give us a chance please. The pl2 release only happened last night, and I've just submitted a PR to update the port. I'll attach the diff from the PR (against the current ports tree) which you can apply yourself if you're desperate for the new version before it all gets processed. D'Oh! How to make yourself look like a complete wally in one easy step. Please remove the Makefile~ emacs backup file that managed to sneak into that diff. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 8 Dane Court Manor School Rd PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Tilmanstone Tel: +44 1304 617253 Kent, CT14 0JL UK pgpP64gi7SRou.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: get local sendmail to use MX records
Since everybody was sure that the problem was with my fault and something had to be wrong with my files, I feel that I have to post the solution, that I was send to me to a member from the comp.mail.sendmail newsgroup. It's really very easy when you know it (as always). As I was sure about, it didn't have anything to do with my local-host-names file(s) or another place where I accidentilly had left the domain name in. The solution was to put the following line in sendmail.cf: O DontProbeInterfaces=True As I said, very easy, but not if you don't know it. I hope it will become of someone someday. Thanks a lot to everybody who replied to my thread! Gerard - Original Message - From: Gerard Meijer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Greg Barniskis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 9:07 AM Subject: Re: get local sendmail to use MX records I'm 100% sure this is not the case and here is why. I figured something out. All my servers do the same thing. It has something to do with the reverse DNS pointers of some domains. For example. I have (another) server running with 20 domains under 4 ip addresses where I never ever touched sendmail or its configuration files. 4 of the domains have a reverse DNS pointer to one of the 4 ips. Sendmail handles 16 domains well (= looks up MX records and delegates the mail to the right server) and tries to handle the mail of 4 domains itself. Needles to say that those 4 domains are the ones that have reverse pointers to the 4 ips attached to that particular server. I tested this on 5 servers and its the same everywhere. I hope one of you knows what to do with this information. I spotted the problem now, but I don't know how to solve it. Clearly sendmail prefers a reverse pointer to a domain above looking up the MX records and using them, but how can I let it stop doing that? Thanks! - Original Message - From: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gerard Meijer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Greg Barniskis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 8:49 AM Subject: RE: get local sendmail to use MX records -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gerard Meijer Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 2:08 PM To: Greg Barniskis Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: get local sendmail to use MX records I really don't understand it at all now. I emptied my virtusertable and local-host-names files. I really don't know why this happens. Did you look in your mailertable file? You have domain.com listed in one of your sendmail config files, that is the only explanation. Or you have it in /etc/hosts. or in /etc/rc.conf. it's somewhere. It is problems like this is why when your running commercial servers that you create build sheets for each server. That is, you record on a separate document EVERY configuration step of any significance that you or anyone else does. Sorry you had to find this out the hard way. You probably have domain.com secreted in some hack you forgot that you did. Maybe one of these days when you do a nuke and repave you will remember to start a build sheet. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cd copy
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 12:27:26 +0100 Dick Hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the easiest way to copy a complete cdrom with freebsd-4.11? Normally I use burncd to burn an iso file to a new cdr, but I never copied a complete cdrom to cdr under freebsd. My windows machines are down and I need the copy soon. So please forgive me if I'm ignorant. Hope the answer is easy ;-) you could try : dd if=/dev/acd0 of=~/my_cd_image and then use burncd to burn that onto cdrom but also installing and using k3b is an idea (i'm starting to like k3b more and more, but i guess you need to have at least a part of KDE installed) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cd copy
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 12:49:31 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 12:27:26 +0100 Dick Hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the easiest way to copy a complete cdrom with freebsd-4.11? Normally I use burncd to burn an iso file to a new cdr, but I never copied a complete cdrom to cdr under freebsd. My windows machines are down and I need the copy soon. So please forgive me if I'm ignorant. Hope the answer is easy ;-) you could try : dd if=/dev/acd0 of=~/my_cd_image and then use burncd to burn that onto cdrom Try dd if=/dev/acd0 of=~/my_cd_image bs=2048 for data CDs, it helps :) -- Simon Dick ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SCO file system mounting
[EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev: Hello to all. Would 'mount' mount the SCO file system ? Does any body know ? I presume the SCO system as partition type 2 or partition type 3 or partition type 0x63. If SCO is running... How about mount -t nfs? Good idea . but the bad thing is its only running the serial terminals. no nic ! No problem. Use SLIP or PPP. As far as I remember some SCO versions have no networking support at all - you had to pay extra for that. Best regards, Mikkel C. Simonsen ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD?
Ted Mittelstaedt writes: Daniel, if I'm running a big company and I pay a developer a chunk of change for a distributed FreeBSD server manager program, or some such thing like that, I am not going to pay them if they are going to take the money and run out and work on their own projects. Nor will most companies pay them to write anything that they are going to release as free software. -- Anthony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD?
Daniel writes: well, if a big company pays for support, those money would allow FreeBSD to have some more people (developers or not) focus on giving the support (fixing/answering) while the developers do their job...i believe this is quite natural course of action Paying for support would rapidly generate a conflict of interest, in that it would encourage the production of buggy software in order to increase support revenues (the only revenues the software generates). -- Anthony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD?
Ted Mittelstaedt writes: If you put anything other than Microsoft Office in front of those people they will spend endless hours complaining about how much better a job they can do (as if they are capabable of doing anything better than their normal half-assed job of anything) if they have Microsoft office, because they know that better ... They're right. Why train them on something different when they already know how to use Office? It makes no economic sense. ... they are too lazy to learn something different ... It's not cost-effective to train them on anything different. They already know Office, so put Office in front of them. It's cheaper to buy them a copy of Office than it is to train them on something else, even if the something-else is free. -- Anthony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD?
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 13:22:00 +0100 Anthony Atkielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... they are too lazy to learn something different ... It's not cost-effective to train them on anything different. They already know Office, so put Office in front of them. It's cheaper to buy them a copy of Office than it is to train them on something else, even if the something-else is free. it's this short-term thinking which will be fatal for this planet after all is it so hard to think about the future, and not be dependent on a ruthless monopoly like Microsoft, not be dependent on a fossile fuel like oil etc. ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD?
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 13:10:57 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: well, if a big company pays for support, those money would allow FreeBSD to have some more people (developers or not) focus on giving the support (fixing/answering) while the developers do their job...i believe this is quite natural course of action Paying for support would rapidly generate a conflict of interest, in that it would encourage the production of buggy software in order to increase support revenues (the only revenues the software generates). my scenario was this: i'm a big company and i use FreeBSD coz it suites best for my needs; let's say among others that my/a programming team built something on top of it ; because i want the system to work as flawless as possible i pay a monthly fee for support - say some 4 to 6 figures of dollars; would i care what you do with the money? i think not; i'm only interested that you'll be there (in place) whenever i need, whenever i get some freaky error the more companies will pay, FreeBSD will have some more guys for support and some more guys for developing... this may be a rather crude view but it could serve as a starting point... Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Forcing upgrade of port
Matthew Seaman wrote:
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 06:39:52PM +1100, Jeffery Fernandez wrote:
I am trying to upgrade phpMyAdmin to the latest release 2.6.1-pl2 which
has a few bugs fixed (One of them being critical for my usage).
I have updated the ports tree with cvsup but it has not picked up the
newer release (or maybe its not time to be updated in the ports tree..
not sure). So how do I go about updating my phpMyAdmin port to the
latest release ? Is it just a matter of editing the MakeFile under
/usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin with the proper release number before
make install clean ? Any suggestions welcome.
Yikes. Give us a chance please. The pl2 release only happened last
night, and I've just submitted a PR to update the port. I'll attach
the diff from the PR (against the current ports tree) which you can
apply yourself if you're desperate for the new version before it all
gets processed.
Cheers,
Matthew
Sorry mate... I was having problem with logging into phpmyadmin when I
was using cookie authentication. Just Found out through a bug reported
at sourceforge that the blowfish pass-phrase has to be less than 50
characters or so. All fixed on my end now.. sorry for the confusion.
cheers,
Jeffery
diff -Nur /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin/Makefile phpmyadmin/Makefile
--- /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin/MakefileWed Jan 26 14:37:43 2005
+++ phpmyadmin/Makefile Fri Feb 25 10:50:33 2005
@@ -6,10 +6,12 @@
#
PORTNAME= phpMyAdmin
-DISTVERSION= 2.6.1
+PORTVERSION= 2.6.1.2
+#DISTVERSION= 2.6.1-pl2
CATEGORIES= databases www
MASTER_SITES= ${MASTER_SITE_SOURCEFORGE}
MASTER_SITE_SUBDIR= phpmyadmin
+DISTNAME= ${PORTNAME}-${PORTVERSION:C/\.(.)$/-pl\1/}
MAINTAINER= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
COMMENT= A set of PHP-scripts to manage MySQL over the web
diff -Nur /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin/Makefile~ phpmyadmin/Makefile~
--- /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin/Makefile~ Thu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970
+++ phpmyadmin/Makefile~ Fri Feb 25 10:50:05 2005
@@ -0,0 +1,154 @@
+# New ports collection makefile for: phpMyAdmin
+# Date created: 19 Jan 2001
+# Whom: nbm
+#
+# $FreeBSD: ports/databases/phpmyadmin/Makefile,v 1.25 2005/01/25 20:12:33 pav Exp $
+#
+
+PORTNAME= phpMyAdmin
+PORTVERSION= 2.6.1.2
+DISTNAME= ${PORTNAME}-${PORTVERSION:C/\.(.)$/-pl\1/}
+#DISTVERSION= 2.6.1-pl2
+CATEGORIES= databases www
+MASTER_SITES= ${MASTER_SITE_SOURCEFORGE}
+MASTER_SITE_SUBDIR= phpmyadmin
+
+MAINTAINER= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
+COMMENT= A set of PHP-scripts to manage MySQL over the web
+
+USE_BZIP2= yes
+NO_BUILD= yes
+USE_PHP= mysql pcre
+
+# Unfortunately can't make WITH_SUPHP part of the OPTIONS selection,
+# since it has to be processed before just about anything else.
+
+.if defined(WITH_SUPHP) !defined(WITHOUT_SUPHP)
+
+PKGNAMESUFFIX= -suphp
+RUN_DEPENDS+= ${LOCALBASE}/sbin/suphp:${PORTSDIR}/www/suphp
+WANT_PHP_CGI= yes
+PKGINST_SKEL= ${PKGDIR}/pkg-install${PKGNAMESUFFIX}
+PKGINSTALL= ${WRKDIR}/pkg-install${PKGNAMESUFFIX}
+PKGDEINST_SKEL= ${PKGDIR}/pkg-deinstall${PKGNAMESUFFIX}
+PKGDEINSTALL= ${WRKDIR}/pkg-deinstall${PKGNAMESUFFIX}
+
+MYADMUSR?= phpmyadm
+
+SED_SCRIPT= -e 's,%%PREFIX%%,${PREFIX},g' \
+ -e 's,%%MYADMDIR%%,${MYADMDIR},g' \
+ -e 's,%%MYADMUSR%%,${MYADMUSR},g' \
+ -e 's,%%MYADMGRP%%,${MYADMGRP},g'
+
+.else
+
+WANT_PHP_WEB= yes
+
+.endif
+
+# Copy the way lang/php{4,5}-extensions deals with its OPTIONS -- avoids
+# problems with include of bsd.port.pre.mk
+
+OPTIONS= BZ2 bzip2 library support on \
+ GD GD library support on \
+ MYSQLI Improved MySQL support (PHP5, MySQL 4.1 only) off \
+ OPENSSL OpenSSL support on \
+ PDF PDFlib support (implies GD) on \
+ ZLIB ZLIB support on
+
+PORT_DBDIR?= /var/db/ports
+LATEST_LINK= ${PORTNAME}${PKGNAMESUFFIX}
+OPTIONSFILE?= ${PORT_DBDIR}/${LATEST_LINK}/options
+
+.if exists(${OPTIONSFILE})
+.include ${OPTIONSFILE}
+.endif
+
+# Options that default to on:
+.for opt in BZ2 GD OPENSSL PDF ZLIB
+.if !defined(WITHOUT_${opt}) || defined(WITH_${opt})
+USE_PHP+= ${opt:L}
+.endif
+.endfor
+
+# Options that default to off:
+.for opt in MYSQLI
+.if defined(WITH_${opt}) !defined(WITHOUT_${opt})
+USE_PHP+= ${opt:L}
+.endif
+.endfor
+
+MSG_SKEL= ${PKGDIR}/pkg-message
+PKGMESSAGE= ${WRKDIR}/pkg-message
+
+# MYADMUSR is only used WITH_SUPHP
+MYADMDIR?= www/phpMyAdmin
+MYADMGRP?= ${WWWGRP}
+CFGFILE= config.inc.php
+
+PLIST= ${WRKDIR}/plist
+PLIST_SUB+= MYADMDIR=${MYADMDIR} MYADMGRP=${MYADMGRP}
+
+.SILENT:
+
+do-build:
+ @${DO_NADA}
+
+pre-everything::
+ ${ECHO_MSG}
+ ${ECHO_MSG} You may use the following additional build option:
+ ${ECHO_MSG}
+ ${ECHO_MSG} WITH_SUPHP=yes Install appropriately for use with
+ ${ECHO_MSG} the www/suphp port [default: no]
+ ${ECHO_MSG}
+
+post-patch:
+ ${MV} ${WRKSRC}/${CFGFILE} ${WRKSRC}/${CFGFILE}.sample
+ cd ${WRKSRC} ; \
+ ${FIND} . ! -type d ! -name ${CFGFILE}.sample | ${SORT} | \
+ ${SED}
Re: cd copy
On Friday 25 February 2005 05:27 am, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: What is the easiest way to copy a complete cdrom with freebsd-4.11? Normally I use burncd to burn an iso file to a new cdr, but I never copied a complete cdrom to cdr under freebsd. My windows machines are down and I need the copy soon. So please forgive me if I'm ignorant. Hope the answer is easy ;-) There's some good information in the online handbook, including instructions for copying both data and audio CD's: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-cds.html Andrew Gould ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD?
Daniel writes: my scenario was this: i'm a big company and i use FreeBSD coz it suites best for my needs; let's say among others that my/a programming team built something on top of it ; because i want the system to work as flawless as possible i pay a monthly fee for support - say some 4 to 6 figures of dollars; would i care what you do with the money? i think not; i'm only interested that you'll be there (in place) whenever i need, whenever i get some freaky error Maybe, but for the company providing the support, it has an interest in creating as many bugs as possible, in order to generate more support revenue. Some companies have actually fallen into this trap. They try to convert support functions into profit centers instead of cost centers, and in so doing they create serious conflicts of interest. The same problem exists for companies that provide both free/low-cost support and highly-paid consulting services. There's a tendency to push support issues off to the consultants and try to bill the customer for consulting fees in order to fix what is actually a bug. It's not very ethical but I've seen it happen often enough. -- Anthony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: it's this short-term thinking which will be fatal for this planet after all I'll agree that it's not very intelligent thinking for the long term, but that's the way most businesses reason these days. They think only about the next fiscal quarter, and never beyond. is it so hard to think about the future, and not be dependent on a ruthless monopoly like Microsoft, not be dependent on a fossile fuel like oil etc. ? Actually it is. It takes more intelligence to see and evaluate long-term consequences than it does to deal with immediate, short-term consequences. And intelligence is in short supply in today's corporate world. -- Anthony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why can't I access my floppy disk?
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 05:11:37PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: Loren M. Lang writes: Do you mean install a 1440k floppy image onto a disk or just copy a file smaller than 1440k onto the msdos fs of an already formatted floppy. Specifically, I was trying to generate an installation boot floppy for FreeBSD, in order to install it on my other machine (which is too old to boot from CD). If you were using one of the pre-fabbed floppy images provided by freebsd like kern.flp then you would want to write it raw to disk, not mount it, and this is forbidden at securelevel 3. The latter should be ok even at securelevel 3, but the former can't because that would mean open /dev/fd0 for writing other than a mount. I got the error just trying to mount the diskette. I tried all different formats of the mount and mount_msdosfs commands and they all either generated a syntax error or told me that the operation was not permitted. I don't know why this is, it should still be possible, especially since you can mount cdroms. /dev/fd0 is read/write by root right? And the disk already had a formatted filesystem on it before you tried mounting it? -- Anthony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kernel Log Message
I keep getting the following kernel log messages in my daily security run output. xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx kernel log messages: Limiting closed port RST response from 283 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 283 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 235 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 256 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 275 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 256 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 284 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 262 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 254 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 277 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 254 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 286 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 254 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 221 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 263 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 262 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 264 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 234 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 233 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 256 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 283 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 254 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 233 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 262 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 283 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 283 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 254 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 233 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 262 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 253 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 262 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 276 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 253 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 283 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 257 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 254 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 236 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 234 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 262 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 260 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 253 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 253 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 283 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 254 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 234 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 257 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 283 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 235 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 283 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 238 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 283 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 256 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 263 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 286 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 256 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 284 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 265 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 256 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 275 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 253 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 233 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 262 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 234 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 260 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 285 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 254 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 233 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 262 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 276 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 253 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 262 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 286 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 233 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 275 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 233 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 288 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed
Re: Where are the Xorg config files ?
Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Strangr things: xdm eventually brings up the gray stippled bg with the X cursor; then the CRT clicks, screen goes black, and after several seconds it retries. Seems to be in an infinite loop. Not even ctlaltFn gets me to an alt vtty long enough to log in and shutdown. I've had to power down to get out. Both xorgcfg and xorgconfig have the same results. Sounds more like your user doesn't have a working .xsession file... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Directory not empty
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 11:29:17AM +0800, T.F. Cheng wrote: man, you are right, I now recall there was a crash during the last portupgrade. And there is /dev/ad0s1f: UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. in my /var/log. Guess the mystery is solved. Then why do I have to reboot first then run bgfsck? Can I run this myself without rebooting? kill -TERM 1 will send your system into single user mode without rebooting. Assuming you haven't done system like increase the securelevel, you should be able to fsck the drive from here. I believe just typing exit will go back for multi-user mode. thanks! --- Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?g?D?G In the last episode (Feb 25), T.F. Cheng said: yeah, it's weird. I found that I can rename it (to tmp) then I tried to del it: rm -fr tmp rm: tmp/qt-x11-free-3.3.4/doc: Directory not empty rm: tmp/qt-x11-free-3.3.4/src: Directory not empty Do you use softupdates, and did your system happen to crash after a portupgrade? I bet if you cd into tmp/qt-x11-free-3.3.4/doc and run ls -la, you'll see something like: $ ls -la total 2 drwx-- 4 dan dan 512 Feb 22 11:00 ./ drwxr-xr-x 3 dan dan 512 Feb 22 11:00 ../ The . entry should have 2 links in an empty directory (one here, and one in the parent directory). That's caused be a failed background fsck, which is supposed to reset bad link counts after a crash. If you check /var/log/messages, you might see something like this: PARTIALLY TRUNCATED INODE I=316179 UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. Try rebooting and letting the bgfsck run again, or boot into single-user mode and run fsck -p on the filesystem. -- Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Best Regards, Tsu-Fan Cheng _ Do You Yahoo!? ?n?O?K?O?? @yahoo.com ?q?l?l?? @ http://chinese.mail.yahoo.com Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://chinese.mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Qlogic ISP 2200, DL-380 and EVA 5000 SAN; how?
On 2005-02-24 12:49:48 -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: Or give us a /proc/scsi/scsi output dump? No such file. (And yes, /proc is mounted). I meant from the linux box. $ cat /proc/scsi/scsi Attached devices: Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00 Vendor: COMPAQ Model: HSV110 (C)COMPAQ Rev: 3010 Type: Unknown ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00 Vendor: COMPAQ Model: HSV110 (C)COMPAQ Rev: 3020 Type: Unknown ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 01 Vendor: COMPAQ Model: HSV110 (C)COMPAQ Rev: 3020 Type: Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02 Can you tell us the connection topology other than same SAN? A fiber goes straight from the SAN, a HP StorageWorks HSV 110 box, to a HP StorageWorks SAN Switch 2/8-EL, to which the Qlogic HBA is connected. Have you tried direct connect? Can't be done, it's our production environment and there's no ports free. Have a nice day Morten -- http://m.mongers.org/weblog/ __END__ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I killed my system with grep
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 12:14:04PM +0100, Ramiro Aceves wrote: Hello FreeBSD friends: I am running a FreeBSD 5.3 system with 64MB RAM and 150 MB swap. Yesterday I entered the command: # grep -R something / Running a grep on an entire system as root is a bad idea. At least limit to certain filesystems. You probably hit a file under /dev/ and caused grep to hang. It's possible that as root, certain device files might hang the system, but nothing comes to mind at the moment unless /dev/io could do it. Also, think about what happens when grep hit's /dev/zero. It will never finish. and after a while, my system did not respond. I do not remember the exact messages as I am on a winbugs at the University. The error was about swapping. I could switch among terminals but the system was dead. I needed to reboot. I rebooted and tried again watching top output and I could see as swap usage was incresing very quickly until it ran out of swap space and the swap pager failed. Was my sytem dead? or, is it possible to recover from that state without rebooting? How is it possible that a simple command like this could auto-kill the machine? What is the recomended fix for this?: a- Asigning more swap. b- Not executing that command anymore. Thank you very much for your advices and help. Ramiro ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I killed my system with grep
Ramiro Aceves [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello FreeBSD friends: I am running a FreeBSD 5.3 system with 64MB RAM and 150 MB swap. Yesterday I entered the command: # grep -R something / and after a while, my system did not respond. I do not remember the exact messages as I am on a winbugs at the University. The error was about swapping. I could switch among terminals but the system was dead. I needed to reboot. I rebooted and tried again watching top output and I could see as swap usage was incresing very quickly until it ran out of swap space and the swap pager failed. Was my sytem dead? or, is it possible to recover from that state without rebooting? How is it possible that a simple command like this could auto-kill the machine? What is the recomended fix for this?: a- Asigning more swap. b- Not executing that command anymore. c- Setting user limits in login.conf(5). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Directory not empty
Loren M. Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 11:29:17AM +0800, T.F. Cheng wrote: man, you are right, I now recall there was a crash during the last portupgrade. And there is /dev/ad0s1f: UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. in my /var/log. Guess the mystery is solved. Then why do I have to reboot first then run bgfsck? Can I run this myself without rebooting? kill -TERM 1 will send your system into single user mode without rebooting. Assuming you haven't done system like increase the securelevel, you should be able to fsck the drive from here. The disk will still be mounted read-write. It would be good to umount(8) it before using fsck(8) on it. Then, mounting it again before returning to multi-user mode will be necessary. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: recommended trouble ticketing system
(redirecting back to the list) I've not used specialized bug tracking software before, so I'm not sure what kind of bug tracking specific features they might offer, but RT is, as the name suggests, just a generic request tracking system, and I don't see why it couldn't also be used for bug tracking. Normal usage typically involves a user sending an email to an RT address (of your choice) to make a request (of any type). RT then sends an email to a list of people who are set to respond to that RT queue, one of them will then respond and take (ownership of) the ticket and when done, change the status to resolved (there are other allowable statuses, as well). When necessary, multiple people can get involved with a given ticket, and/or it can be redirected to someone else as needed. Tom dave wrote: Hi, Question on rt, is it a general bug tracking software package as well? I'm looking for something like gnats which i have not been able to get working or bugzilla which i do not like because it puts email cleartext on the page. I've heard good things about rt, but don't know if it'll suit my situation. Thanks. Dave. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel Log Message
Your machine is getting hit with a lot of SYN packets, and sending RST packets in return (lots of them) this is usually dude to a portscan, but may be different in your situation. To stop it, add the following lines to /etc/sysctl.conf net.inet.tcp.blackhole=2 net.inet.udp.blackhole=1 Regards, stevenrh Cody Holland wrote: I keep getting the following kernel log messages in my daily security run output. xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx kernel log messages: Limiting closed port RST response from 283 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 283 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 235 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 256 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 275 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 256 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 284 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 262 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 254 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 277 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 254 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 286 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 254 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 221 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 263 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 262 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 264 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 234 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 233 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 256 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 283 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 254 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 233 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 262 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 283 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 283 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 254 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 233 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 262 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 253 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 262 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 276 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 253 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 283 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 257 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 254 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 236 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 234 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 262 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 260 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 253 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 253 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 283 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 254 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 234 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 257 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 283 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 235 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 283 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 238 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 283 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 256 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 263 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 286 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 256 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 284 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 265 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 256 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 275 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 253 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 233 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 262 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 234 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 260 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 285 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 254 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 233 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 262 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 276 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 253 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 262 to 200 packets/sec Limiting closed port RST response from 286 to 200
Apache won't talk to the world
Hi, I installed Apache 2 but it won't talk to the world. KDE works fine on the internet through my WRT54G router, but Apache gives this config error: [alert] (EAI 8)hostname nor servname provided, or not known: mod_unique_id: unable to find IPv4 address of .comcast.net Configuration Failed = I'm using ddclient to sync www.zonedit.com for dynamic DNS using my Comcast cable internet connection. I want to use virtual hosts to host several websites, but can't even get the basic config to work. Here is my rc.conf: = hostname=www.torva.com ifconfig_bge0=inet 192.168.1.40 netmask 255.255.255.0 defaultrouter=192.168.1.1 == Here are the relevant lines in httpd.conf the Apache config file: === Listen 192.168.1.40:80 User www Group www ServerName www.torva.com:80 UseCanonicalName Off DocumentRoot /usr/local/www/data What's wrong? Thanx, Jeff __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Qlogic ISP 2200, DL-380 and EVA 5000 SAN; how?
And just reconfirming- a 'camcontrol rescan 3:0:1' does *not* see the disk? On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:52:12 +0100, Morten Liebach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2005-02-24 12:49:48 -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: Or give us a /proc/scsi/scsi output dump? No such file. (And yes, /proc is mounted). I meant from the linux box. $ cat /proc/scsi/scsi Attached devices: Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00 Vendor: COMPAQ Model: HSV110 (C)COMPAQ Rev: 3010 Type: Unknown ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00 Vendor: COMPAQ Model: HSV110 (C)COMPAQ Rev: 3020 Type: Unknown ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 01 Vendor: COMPAQ Model: HSV110 (C)COMPAQ Rev: 3020 Type: Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02 Can you tell us the connection topology other than same SAN? A fiber goes straight from the SAN, a HP StorageWorks HSV 110 box, to a HP StorageWorks SAN Switch 2/8-EL, to which the Qlogic HBA is connected. Have you tried direct connect? Can't be done, it's our production environment and there's no ports free. Have a nice day Morten -- http://m.mongers.org/weblog/ __END__ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pflog's format
Hello when reading pf's log the messages usually have the following format: 189977 rule 0/0(match): block out on ste0: IP (tos 0x0, ttl 63, id 38539, offse t 0, flags [DF], length: 40) Instead of xx number rule how can I get date and time displayed/logged ? Thank you ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pflog's format
On 2005-02-25 16:28, kilim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when reading pf's log the messages usually have the following format: 189977 rule 0/0(match): block out on ste0: IP (tos 0x0, ttl 63, id 38539, offse t 0, flags [DF], length: 40) Instead of xx number rule how can I get date and time displayed/logged ? Try using tcpdump with the proper options on `/var/log/pflog': # Wrapped under 80 columns output... orion:/root# tcpdump - -n -v -r /var/log/pflog | head -5 reading from file /var/log/pflog, link-type PFLOG (OpenBSD pflog file) 2005-01-10 16:32:54.010282 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 1, id 17146, offset 0, flags [none], length: 40, optlength: 4 ( RA )) 10.6.0.201 224.0.0.22: igmp v3 report, 1 group record(s) [gaddr 224.0.0.252 to_ex, 0 source(s)] 2005-01-10 16:32:54.687811 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 1, id 17156, offset 0, flags [none], length: 40, optlength: 4 ( RA )) 10.6.0.201 224.0.0.22: igmp v3 report, 1 group record(s) [gaddr 224.0.0.252 to_ex, 0 source(s)] 2005-01-10 16:33:24.011554 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 1, id 17218, offset 0, flags [none], length: 40, optlength: 4 ( RA )) 10.6.0.201 224.0.0.22: igmp v3 report, 1 group record(s) [gaddr 224.0.0.252 to_in, 0 source(s)] 2005-01-10 16:33:24.723533 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 1, id 17219, offset 0, flags [none], length: 40, optlength: 4 ( RA )) 10.6.0.201 224.0.0.22: igmp v3 report, 1 group record(s) [gaddr 224.0.0.252 to_in, 0 source(s)] 2005-01-19 11:05:24.429801 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 1, id 22604, offset 0, flags [none], length: 40, optlength: 4 ( RA )) 10.6.0.202 224.0.0.22: igmp v3 report, 1 group record(s) [gaddr 224.0.0.252 to_in, 0 source(s)] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Compiling linux_base in jail fails
Hello. I am trying to install linux_base inside a jail and it fails with the following: #make === Extracting for linux_base-rh-7.3 = Checksum OK for rpm/rh-7.3/glibc-common-2.2.5-44.legacy.3.i386.rpm. = Checksum OK for rpm/rh-7.3/glibc-2.2.5-44.legacy.3.i386.rpm. = Checksum OK for rpm/rh-7.3/redhat-release-7.3-1.noarch.rpm. = Checksum OK for rpm/rh-7.3/setup-2.5.12-1.noarch.rpm. = Checksum OK for rpm/rh-7.3/filesystem-2.1.6-2.noarch.rpm. = Checksum OK for rpm/rh-7.3/basesystem-7.0-2.noarch.rpm. = Checksum OK for rpm/rh-7.3/termcap-11.0.1-10.noarch.rpm. = Checksum OK for rpm/rh-7.3/db1-1.85-8.i386.rpm. = Checksum OK for rpm/rh-7.3/db3-3.3.11-6.i386.rpm. = Checksum OK for rpm/rh-7.3/gdbm-1.8.0-14.i386.rpm. = Checksum OK for rpm/rh-7.3/glib-1.2.10-5.i386.rpm. = Checksum OK for rpm/rh-7.3/glib2-2.0.1-2.i386.rpm. = Checksum OK for rpm/rh-7.3/libtermcap-2.0.8-28.i386.rpm. = Checksum OK for rpm/rh-7.3/bash-2.05a-13.i386.rpm. = Checksum OK for rpm/rh-7.3/bzip2-libs-1.0.2-2.i386.rpm. = Checksum OK for rpm/rh-7.3/bzip2-1.0.2-2.i386.rpm. = Checksum OK for rpm/rh-7.3/libstdc++-2.96-110.i386.rpm. = Checksum OK for rpm/rh-7.3/compat-libstdc++-6.2-2.9.0.16.i386.rpm. = Checksum OK for rpm/rh-7.3/ncurses-5.2-26.i386.rpm. = Checksum OK for rpm/rh-7.3/info-4.1-1.i386.rpm. = Checksum OK for rpm/rh-7.3/fileutils-4.1-10.i386.rpm. = Checksum OK for rpm/rh-7.3/grep-2.5.1-1.i386.rpm. = Checksum OK for rpm/rh-7.3/popt-1.6.4-7x.18.i386.rpm. = Checksum OK for rpm/rh-7.3/readline-4.2a-4.i386.rpm. = Checksum OK for rpm/rh-7.3/setserial-2.17-5.i386.rpm. = Checksum OK for rpm/rh-7.3/slang-1.4.5-2.i386.rpm. = Checksum OK for rpm/rh-7.3/sh-utils-2.0.11-14.i386.rpm. = Checksum OK for rpm/rh-7.3/rpm-4.0.4-7x.18.i386.rpm. = Checksum OK for rpm/rh-7.3/zlib-1.1.3-25.7.i386.rpm. = Checksum OK for rpm/rh-7.3/XFree86-libs-4.3.0-78.EL.tj.i386.rpm. === linux_base-rh-7.3 depends on executable: rpm - found LC_ALL=C rpm --initdb --root /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base/work/linux_base-rh-7.3 --dbpath /var/lib/rpm kern.fallback_elf_brand: -1 sysctl: kern.fallback_elf_brand: Operation not permitted ELF binary type 0 not known. execution of glibc-2.2.5-44.legacy.3 script failed, exit status 255 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base. Any ideas on how to get linux emulator running inside a jail? Thanks. -- Viren Patel Chemistry Biochemistry University of Texas at Austin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GEOM mirror question using single slice method
I am following Approach 2: Single Slice exactly from this howto: http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/ Everything was done up to the first reboot, and it booted into the degraded mirror perfectly. BUT, for some reason, the mirror automatically added the first disk without me placing a new PC MBR onto the first disk and switching GEOM mirror to auto-synchronization and adding the first disk. Why? Also, why are the consumers ad0 and ad2 instead of ad0s1 and ad2s1? So after first reboot, it is doing the syncing on its own and I get this: bash-2.05b# gmirror list Geom name: gm0s1 State: DEGRADED Components: 2 Balance: round-robin Slice: 4096 Flags: NONE GenID: 0 SyncID: 2 ID: 1399192993 Providers: 1. Name: mirror/gm0s1 Mediasize: 80026329088 (75G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r5w4e1 Consumers: 1. Name: ad0 Mediasize: 80026361856 (75G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 State: SYNCHRONIZING Priority: 0 Flags: DIRTY, SYNCHRONIZING GenID: 0 SyncID: 2 Synchronized: 6% ID: 483524358 2. Name: ad2 Mediasize: 80026361856 (75G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 State: ACTIVE Priority: 0 Flags: DIRTY GenID: 0 SyncID: 2 ID: 1568645277 Geom name: gm0s1.sync Consumers: 1. Name: mirror/gm0s1 Mediasize: 80026329088 (75G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w0e0 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
complete rookie sendmail question
first thank you all for the invaluable amount of info and resorses that flow through this mail list.. I hope to one day contribute more than I take away. that said This is what is happening. I have a webserver 'web1.foo.com' that is not the mailserver for foo.com (that is mail.foo.com). /var/log/maillog has errors like: Feb 25 07:34:09 web1 sm-mta[98913]: j1PDTdTd098790: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (1002/1002), delay=00:04:30, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=120427, relay=mail.foo.com. [64.73.41.34], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by mail.foo.com. as well I am seeing: Feb 25 00:10:56 web1 sm-mta[88984]: j1P1HLV8081785: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (80/80), delay=04:53:35, xd elay=00:00:06, mailer=esmtp, pri=930762, relay=somedomain.com. [216.166.63.26], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: 451 4.1.8 Domain of sender addre ss [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not resolve I beleive this is because the ctladdr should be [EMAIL PROTECTED] and not [EMAIL PROTECTED] how can i configure sendmail for send out mail as foo.com and NOT web1.foo.com? is this possible? am I barking up the wrong tree here to find out why I am not able to send mail out... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 12:11 AM To: List Free Bsd Subject: Re: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD? On Feb 25, 2005, at 1:01 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: And they are still buying Microsoft Office because their users are demanding it. I don't believe this. I believe that a few users demand it, and by default everyone else gets it. Some manager or IT VP or someone decides that is the new corp standard and that is it. I think either you wern't paying attention in the big companies that you worked in or you haven't worked in big companies. Big companies have a longstanding personnel problem in that they tend to attract, for want of a better word, lazy bastards. That is not to say all big company employees are lazy, far far from it. Big companies also attract many very talented people. ... Stuff nuked What happens when you as a manager tell your lazy bastard employee to do a job, is they will find every conceivable excuse to avoid doing it. My computer is screwed up is a favorite one. Another one is I need training on that and I can't do the work until you give it to me It's not in my job description is another favorite. I'm sure any managers reading have heard all of these. If you put anything other than Microsoft Office in front of those people they will spend endless hours complaining about how much better a job they can do (as if they are capabable of doing anything better than their normal half-assed job of anything) if they have Microsoft office, because they know that better (translation, they are too lazy to learn something different) blah blah blah. I think both things happen. Sometimes it is the manager who is either lazy or scared to make a decision and imposes solutions on the company. I see that a lot with our clients. Do you remember the very popular IBM selling point (especially in the mainframe world) - IBM sales people will come in and, if things seem to be getting close to leaning toward a different vendor, would start throwing around the phrase 'no-one ever got fired for choosing IBM' to try and scare people in the decision making position. I have heard them quote that in presentations many times. MS might not use that same quote, but they try and leave that same feeling. They both have gleefully traded on that weight in the marketplace. Unfortunately, it is sort of true. If someone chose something other than IBM and something screwed up, the chooser would get wailed upon for making a dumb choice. If then chose IBM and something screwed up as it most often did, they could say, well that is just the way it is in the computer field. It ain't my fault. Then IBM is just grinning and rubbing their hands at all the additional stuff they will then get to sell to fix up their own screwups. Well, that same odor seems to come on those winds from the northwest as well.If you are a middle manager, you don't have to justify paying scads of money to buy an MS solution and any screwups are just the way life is. But your neck is on the line if you buy anything else - even if it is free. You have to justify it first and defend it every day regardless of how much better it might perform. So, managers cave. They want to keep their salaries and get their bosses off their backs. The fact that they have to deal with lazy employees in the manner described in your post just makes that whole symdrome worse. jerry Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: complete rookie sendmail question
On 2005-02-25 11:03, Ken Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: first thank you all for the invaluable amount of info and resorses that flow through this mail list.. I hope to one day contribute more than I take away. that said This is what is happening. I have a webserver 'web1.foo.com' that is not the mailserver for foo.com (that is mail.foo.com). /var/log/maillog has errors like: Feb 25 07:34:09 web1 sm-mta[98913]: j1PDTdTd098790: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (1002/1002), delay=00:04:30, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=120427, relay=mail.foo.com. [64.73.41.34], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by mail.foo.com. Is mail.foo.com running an MTA? Does the setup of the MTA, the firewall, whatever else runs on mail.foo.com allow connections from your web1.foo.com host? how can i configure sendmail for send out mail as foo.com and NOT web1.foo.com? is this possible? This is probably a job of the MTA running on mail.foo.com, which should probably have the option: MASQUERADE_AS(`foo.com') MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(`foo.com') If it doesn't already, that is. Handling the masquerading of outgoing email in one central place (the MTA setup of mail.foo.com) is much preferable, since you only have to update ONE place whenever you feel like changing the MASQUERADE_AS option. - Giorgos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cdrom image to cdr
What is the easiest way to copy a complete cdrom with freebsd-4.11? Normally I use burncd to burn an iso file to a new cdr, but I never copied a complete cdrom to cdr under freebsd. My windows machines are down and I need the copy soon. So please forgive me if I'm ignorant. Hope the answer is easy ;-) -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11 ++ FreeBSD 5.3 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Qlogic ISP 2200, DL-380 and EVA 5000 SAN; how?
On 2005-02-25 07:19:58 -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: And just reconfirming- a 'camcontrol rescan 3:0:1' does *not* see the disk? # camcontrol rescan 3:0:1 Re-scan of 3:0:1 was successful # camcontrol devlist -v scbus0 on ciss0 bus 0: COMPAQ RAID 1 VOLUME reco at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,da0) scbus1 on ciss0 bus 32: scbus2 on ciss0 bus 33: scbus3 on isp0 bus 0: COMPAQ HSV110 (C)COMPAQ 3020 at scbus3 target 0 lun 0 (pass1) at scbus3 target -1 lun -1 () scbus-1 on xpt0 bus 0: at scbus-1 target -1 lun -1 (xpt0) Nope. Still no da1 device... Morten -- http://m.mongers.org/weblog/ __END__ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cdrom image to cdr
On Friday 25 February 2005 10:13, dick hoogendijk wrote: What is the easiest way to copy a complete cdrom with freebsd-4.11? Normally I use burncd to burn an iso file to a new cdr, but I never copied a complete cdrom to cdr under freebsd. My windows machines are down and I need the copy soon. So please forgive me if I'm ignorant. Hope the answer is easy ;-) This is covered in the handbook, but the basic idea is that you mount the CD, use mkisofs to create an iso of it and then burn the iso with burncd. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-cds.html -- Thanks, Josh Paetzel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions
How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. === Last update $Date: 2004/09/19 02:40:48 $ This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list. If you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your message: - You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate. - You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read. - You asked more than one unrelated question in one message. - You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone. - You sent out the same message more than once. - You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions. If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you will get more than one copy of this message from different people. Read on, and your next message will be more successful. This document is also available on the web at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html. = Contents: I:Introduction II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions III: Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers? IV: How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions V:How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions I: Introduction === This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the newcomers), and also those who answer the questions (the hackers). Note that the term hacker has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for the latter activity is cracker, but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. In the following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that, we'll look at how to answer one. II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions == When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] In this message, amongst other things, it told you how to unsubscribe. Here's a typical message: Welcome to the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list! If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your subscription page at: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions/[EMAIL PROTECTED] (obviously, substitute your mail address for [EMAIL PROTECTED]). You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word 'help' in the subject or body (don't include the quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. You must know your password to change your options (including changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. Normally, Mailman will remind you of your freebsd.org mailing list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you prefer. This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or change your account options. There is also a button on your options page that will email your current password to you. Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send how to questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one which you specified when you subscribed. If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on the list, this may mean one of two things: 1. You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed. That's where keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy. For example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Since then, I have changed it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I were to try to remove [EMAIL PROTECTED] from the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with which I joined. 2. You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to
The Complete FreeBSD: errata and addenda
The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception. Inevitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. The Complete FreeBSD has been through a total of five editions, including its predecessor Installing and Running FreeBSD. Two of these have been reprinted with corrections. I maintain a series of errata pages. Start at http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata information. Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing? Please let me know: I'm constantly updating it. Greg ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cdrom image to cdr
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 11:02:14AM -0600, Josh Paetzel wrote: On Friday 25 February 2005 10:13, dick hoogendijk wrote: What is the easiest way to copy a complete cdrom with freebsd-4.11? Normally I use burncd to burn an iso file to a new cdr, but I never copied a complete cdrom to cdr under freebsd. My windows machines are down and I need the copy soon. So please forgive me if I'm ignorant. Hope the answer is easy ;-) This is covered in the handbook, but the basic idea is that you mount the CD, use mkisofs to create an iso of it and then burn the iso with burncd. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-cds.html No, the basic idea mentioned at the above URL is to recover the .iso file using dd. This usually works. Doesn't work for multisession discs. I've found some drives report EOM while reading the last block while others wait until an attempt to read past the last block. Result is that dd may read some one block short. May be good enough for everything but verify after write. /usr/ports/sysutils/cdrdao/ can handle arbitrary disc duplication, altho I haven't tried it in quite a while. -- David Kelly N4HHE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why can't I access my floppy disk?
Loren M. Lang writes: If you were using one of the pre-fabbed floppy images provided by freebsd like kern.flp then you would want to write it raw to disk, not mount it, and this is forbidden at securelevel 3. I was trying to do it with dd. I tried the same on my other system (the one on which I'm trying to install FreeBSD for experimentation), and it worked, but that system is at the default level of securelevel=-1. That's fine, though, since it gives me a machine that can do the job, which is all I need. I trust a UNIX command a bit more than I trust a Windows command (especially since the one supplied on the FreeBSD CD is a bit weird). I don't know why this is, it should still be possible, especially since you can mount cdroms. /dev/fd0 is read/write by root right? And the disk already had a formatted filesystem on it before you tried mounting it? Yes to both questions. But it must be securelevel, because it works on the test machine. The man page doesn't say anything about this restriction, though, nor is it obvious from what the page does say. -- Anthony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD?
Jerry McAllister writes: Unfortunately, it is sort of true. If someone chose something other than IBM and something screwed up, the chooser would get wailed upon for making a dumb choice. If then chose IBM and something screwed up as it most often did, they could say, well that is just the way it is in the computer field. It ain't my fault. Then IBM is just grinning and rubbing their hands at all the additional stuff they will then get to sell to fix up their own screwups. Well, that same odor seems to come on those winds from the northwest as well.If you are a middle manager, you don't have to justify paying scads of money to buy an MS solution and any screwups are just the way life is. But your neck is on the line if you buy anything else - even if it is free. You have to justify it first and defend it every day regardless of how much better it might perform. So, managers cave. They want to keep their salaries and get their bosses off their backs. It's a bit more complex than that. Companies like IBM and Microsoft will assist managers in justifying their respective software or hardware solutions. The manager is not alone in arguing in favor of these solutions. If the manager chooses something like open source, or any unsupported solution, he's on his own, and often he loses. -- Anthony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Fwd: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ted Mittelstaedt writes: Daniel, if I'm running a big company and I pay a developer a chunk of change for a distributed FreeBSD server manager program, or some such thing like that, I am not going to pay them if they are going to take the money and run out and work on their own projects. Nor will most companies pay them to write anything that they are going to release as free software. No, not true at all! The vast majority of businesses that employ contractors to customize software for them are actually paying companies for the labor, and the developer is an employee of that contracting company. In those cases the code ownership is that of the contracting company, and you as a business owner won't see a line of code written for you until you sign a contract that formalizes this. What the contracting company then does with the code is their own business. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ted Mittelstaedt writes: If you put anything other than Microsoft Office in front of those people they will spend endless hours complaining about how much better a job they can do (as if they are capabable of doing anything better than their normal half-assed job of anything) if they have Microsoft office, because they know that better ... They're right. Why train them on something different when they already know how to use Office? It makes no economic sense. ... they are too lazy to learn something different ... It's not cost-effective to train them on anything different. They already know Office, so put Office in front of them. It's cheaper to buy them a copy of Office than it is to train them on something else, even if the something-else is free. Your missing the point. It's far more cost-effective for a business to not hire a bunch of whiners in the first place. I expect the above behavior out of the chewinggummy girl I hire to sit at the reception desk for $7 an hour and present a set of nice boobs to the customers when they walk in the door. If I can keep her off the phone to her boyfriend all day long I consider myself lucky, if I can actually get some real work out of her other than answering the phone and serving as eye candy, I'm in seventh heaven. But I don't expect this kind of whining from someone I hire at $30K a year to actually do some real clerical work that requires some responsibility, and I am not going to stand for it for the $60K and above grown up adult that I hire for a managerial or ops position or some such. Unfortunately, there's still too many upper managers in business today who came of age before the computer became integrated into business, and chose to be lazy and not learn how to use them, and as a result today cannot themselves operate the things, so it is not possible for them to hold their employees to any kind of standard in this area. All throughout our businesses careers, we will be faced with this problem of having to unlearn the old way of doing things and learn new, better ways. Everyone that works in a job faces this. Unfortunately, many people choose to refuse to unlearn old ways, and a larger percentage of them get like this when they have been doing the old way for a long time. It isn't impossible. I've seen many older managers very skilled in applying computer technology to their jobs, and this is a joy to behold as you get a meld of experience in the industry to the technology that produces some amazing things. I would not want to compete in any way with these folks! Unfortunately, call me cynical or what, but these managers appear to be in the minority. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jerry McAllister writes: Well, that same odor seems to come on those winds from the northwest as well.If you are a middle manager, you don't have to justify paying scads of money to buy an MS solution and any screwups are just the way life is. But your neck is on the line if you buy anything else - even if it is free. You have to justify it first and defend it every day regardless of how much better it might perform. So, managers cave. They want to keep their salaries and get their bosses off their backs. It's a bit more complex than that. Companies like IBM and Microsoft will assist managers in justifying their respective software or hardware solutions. The manager is not alone in arguing in favor of these solutions. If the manager chooses something like open source, or any unsupported solution, he's on his own, and often he loses. That might be true but what is also true is that when such managers win, they win very very big. So big that in the sum total of things, their wins bring in far more money to the company than anything that the conservative managers do. CEO's of companies generally don't get to be in that position until they recognize this, with banking and a few other fields the notable exceptions. Most of them would love to see more of their middle managers stick their necks out more and take some risks. Many of the largest companies regularly hire consulting companies and send their people off to seminars in an effort to promote this. All of this gets down to basic risk reward. Nobody ever got big rewards by playing it safe. Nor did anybody make it for long taking reckless risks. Open Source/FreeBSD isn't playing it safe, but it isn't a reckless risk either. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
trouble booting 5.3 on i386 IBM
I created a bug report and nothing was entered,so I thought I would ask the group again if anyone has seen this?? Brand new drives...brand new full install: Using 5.3 release is when I 1st noticed this. CVSup to 5.3-STABLE does not fix this trouble. If both IDE channels are enabled and they are all set to AUTO/AUTO for master/slave and there is no drive (yet) installed to IDE channel2, the machine hangs at boot. If I install a drive to IDE channel2, the machine boots. If I disable IDE channel2, the machine will boot as well. When it hangs, all I see on the console is: FreeBSD/i386 BOOT Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/loader boot: ..if I hit return at this point, the beastie menu comes up. The machine will NOT boot on it's own. -- J.D. Bronson Aurora Health Care // Information Services // Milwaukee, WI USA Office: 414.978.8282 // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Pager: 414.314.8282 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD?
Jerry McAllister writes: Unfortunately, it is sort of true. If someone chose something other than IBM and something screwed up, the chooser would get wailed upon for making a dumb choice. If then chose IBM and something screwed up as it most often did, they could say, well that is just the way it is in the computer field. It ain't my fault. Then IBM is just grinning and rubbing their hands at all the additional stuff they will then get to sell to fix up their own screwups. Well, that same odor seems to come on those winds from the northwest as well.If you are a middle manager, you don't have to justify paying scads of money to buy an MS solution and any screwups are just the way life is. But your neck is on the line if you buy anything else - even if it is free. You have to justify it first and defend it every day regardless of how much better it might perform. So, managers cave. They want to keep their salaries and get their bosses off their backs. It's a bit more complex than that. Companies like IBM and Microsoft will assist managers in justifying their respective software or hardware solutions. The manager is not alone in arguing in favor of these solutions. If the manager chooses something like open source, or any unsupported solution, he's on his own, and often he loses. Roughly what I said in the piece you cut off only you use softer language here. I have been in numerous bid battles (as customer) and IBM used to heavily employ that 'no one ever got fired for buying IBM' line especially if the choice seemed close.I haven't heard MS people actually say it, but strongly imply the same sort of thing. They both also like to feed managers lines to use in rationalizing choosing their own stuff. Everyone does that. It just makes sense. But it is the implied threat stated in reverse that characterizes their attitude. The managers in the cases I participated in, were not wishing to choose IBM or MS, but were being threatened in a sense. jerry -- Anthony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PPP Connection.
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 12:11:34PM -0500, Peterhin wrote:
I have 5.3 installed, and am trying to get my dial-up going.
In the handbook under 21.2.1.2 when I try to do a
'cd /dev'
'sh MAKEDEV tun0'
I get can't open makedev: No such file or directory
The 5.x series uses a devfs filesystem which creates devices on the
fly. You don't have to make the devices manually anymore.
I also tried using G. Lehey instructions from his book, I get to the
point where the external modem dials at reboot, but no connection. I
have looked in the log files and it looks like Authentication failure
is my problem.
Username and password is incorrect? Post us the actual contents of the
logs and your ppp.conf (with the username/password blanked out) and we
will have a better idea just what is going wrong with your system.
--
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RE: PPP Connection.
-Original Message- From: Jonathan Chen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 11:09 AM To: Peterhin Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPP Connection. On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 12:11:34PM -0500, Peterhin wrote: I have 5.3 installed, and am trying to get my dial-up going. In the handbook under 21.2.1.2 when I try to do a 'cd /dev' 'sh MAKEDEV tun0' I get can't open makedev: No such file or directory The 5.x series uses a devfs filesystem which creates devices on the fly. You don't have to make the devices manually anymore. I also tried using G. Lehey instructions from his book, I get to the point where the external modem dials at reboot, but no connection. I have looked in the log files and it looks like Authentication failure is my problem. Username and password is incorrect? Post us the actual contents of the logs and your ppp.conf (with the username/password blanked out) and we will have a better idea just what is going wrong with your system. -- Note, if you have special characters in the username or password you need o escape them i.e., [EMAIL PROTECTED] would be [EMAIL PROTECTED] However, this is not always the case depending on the isp. Good luck. dave ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD?
Ted Mittelstaedt writes: What the contracting company then does with the code is their own business. It's not giving it away for free. Contractors are even worse than their clients. -- Anthony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ntpd core dump
Lowell Gilbert wrote: Richard Danter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi all, I have 5.3-RELEASE installed. I'm trying to run ntpd but I get a message in /var/log/messages that it exited on signal 11 (core dumped). Is there a known problem with this version or is there somethig wrong with my config file (below)? This file is based on one I use on a Linux host with no problems. Thanks Rich -- server ntp.maths.tcd.ie server bear.zoo.bt.co.uk server ntp.cis.strath.ac.uk server 127.127.1.0 # local clock fudge 127.127.1.0 stratum 10 broadcastdelay 0.008 restrict 192.168.1.0 mask 255.255.255.0 nomodify notrap Hard to say. Try subsets of that config file in order to isolate a portion of the file that produces the problem. Thanks Lowell, I tried commenting out everything and then adding in 1 line at a time. Turns out it is a problem with the very first server in the list. If I remove it then ntpd starts perfectly. This is rather odd as I still have a Linux box using the original file with no problems. It is also add that the result is a core dump rather than a nice error message in the syslog. But such is life. Thanks again, Rich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RELENG_5 installworld fails
Hello, a freshly cvsup-ed to RELENG_5 i386 machine failed during 'make installworld' today with reason 'uuencode: can not find uuencode' in the share/syscons/scrnmaps directory. I changed the Makefile in /usr/src/share/syscons/scrnmaps, specifying the absolute path to the uuencode executable - /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/uuencode/uuencode and the installation finished without errors. I'm not very familiar with the build system, so I'm wondering if I did some mistake to get this error, and can I expect the system to work well after my intervention, or is it better to cvsup again and reinstall? If I get to this, I will cvsup to RELENG_5_3, I wouldn't update to RELENG_5 if I knew it was 5.4-PRERELEASE - my mistake. Regards, Velko Ivanov ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD?
Ted Mittelstaedt writes: Your missing the point. It's far more cost-effective for a business to not hire a bunch of whiners in the first place. They aren't whiners. It's perfectly logical for them to want to work with software for which they are already trained, and it's equally logical for a company to let them work with software for which they are already trained. There's no reason at all to retrain them on something completely different. But I don't expect this kind of whining from someone I hire at $30K a year to actually do some real clerical work that requires some responsibility, and I am not going to stand for it for the $60K and above grown up adult that I hire for a managerial or ops position or some such. I guess you can spend another $60K on training them to use something else and hope they don't leave until you amortize that additional expense (if you ever do). But that doesn't seem to make very good business sense. Unfortunately, there's still too many upper managers in business today who came of age before the computer became integrated into business, and chose to be lazy and not learn how to use them, and as a result today cannot themselves operate the things, so it is not possible for them to hold their employees to any kind of standard in this area. They already _know_ how to use computers; they just aren't familiar with the software that you personally prefer. They know the most popular software on the market and how to use it; they can get their work done with that software alone, without any need for anything else. There is no reason for them to look elsewhere for software, nor is there any reason for them to waste time and money learning other, more obscure software packages that just do nothing more than Office already does. Managers don't have an emotional attachment to any type of computer software. They run Office because everyone knows how to use Office. And employees want Office because that's what they know how to use. It's perfectly rational, and fully cost-effective, and it has nothing to do with laziness or the age at which someone was first exposed to computers. All throughout our businesses careers, we will be faced with this problem of having to unlearn the old way of doing things and learn new, better ways. Not necessarily. When something works well enough, there's no reason to learn anything else. Everyone that works in a job faces this. Not necessarily. Even in jobs that require the use of a computer, it isn't necessary to relearn things over and over. Microsoft Word and Excel haven't changed significantly in ages. Unfortunately, many people choose to refuse to unlearn old ways, and a larger percentage of them get like this when they have been doing the old way for a long time. They have to have a good reason to learn new ways, and because someone in the IT department hates Microsoft isn't a good reason. -- Anthony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD?
Ted Mittelstaedt writes: That might be true but what is also true is that when such managers win, they win very very big. Big risk, big potential return. But not everyone wants to gamble. So big that in the sum total of things, their wins bring in far more money to the company than anything that the conservative managers do. Sorry, but I really don't see how replacing Windows with an open-source solution or anything of that nature would bring in far more money to any company. Open Source/FreeBSD isn't playing it safe, but it isn't a reckless risk either. Technically it's not much of a risk, but politically and in business terms it can be a considerable risk. -- Anthony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
updating system version of OpenSSH
What is the procedure for patching/updating system version of OpenSSH on an FBSD 5.2.1 box? I used the excellent Rootkit Hunter security assessment tool: http://www.rootkit.nl/projects/rootkit_hunter.html and it found that I'm running OpenSSH 3.6.1p1, which has at least one vulnerability. I only know how to install/upgrade from ports. OpenSSH is part of the ports collection, but the build I'm running was included with the OS. What's the right way to proceed here? thanks /wsbs __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lexmark X1100 printer
On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 10:53:01PM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: The problem is that the cheap color inkjets on the market are all winprinters these days. So you have to go there if you want to print color. Over the years I've had a couple of inkjet printers, starting with a Deskjet 500. All of them had trouble with ink cartridges drying out after a couple of weeks non-use. And with that ink being rediculously expensive, I decided not to bother with inktjets anymore. I had a Laserjet 5L for about 6 years, I think. It was still on the original toner cassette when I gave it to a friend. Another department of a company I used to work for designed and manufactured parts for (consumer) inkjet printers for HP and others. According to the people who worked there, those printers were definitely not engineered to last. As for winprinters, I decided not to buy any printer if it doesn't understand postscript. Life's too short to go hunting after obscure drivers. And color laserprinters are coming down in price. I recently bought a Color Laserjet 2550L for ¤ 439,-. Installing it amounted to feeding the ppd file to CUPS. And it works every time. The colour output might not be up to six-colour inkjet with special photo paper, but It Works For Me. If it lasts as long and trouble-free as my old 6L, I consider it money well-spent. Roland -- R.F. Smith /\ASCII Ribbon Campaign r s m i t h @ x s 4 a l l . n l \ /No HTML/RTF in e-mail http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ X No Word docs in e-mail public key: http://www.keyserver.net / \Respect for open standards pgpZvvEM6StIY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ntpd core dump
Richard Danter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks Lowell, I tried commenting out everything and then adding in 1 line at a time. Turns out it is a problem with the very first server in the list. If I remove it then ntpd starts perfectly. This is rather odd as I still have a Linux box using the original file with no problems. It is also add that the result is a core dump rather than a nice error message in the syslog. But such is life. A newer version of ntpd has been imported since 5.2.1. Given that it was a technology preview release, maybe it's time to update the system. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: updating system version of OpenSSH
On 02/25/05 20:55, David Newman wrote: What is the procedure for patching/updating system version of OpenSSH on an FBSD 5.2.1 box? If you can't afford to upgrade the base OS and you do not want to install OpenSSH from the ports, then you'll need to specify what vulnerability you are talking about. I checked the FreeBSD security advisories which *could* apply to your problem and it seems that FreeBSD-SA-04:05.openssl is the one you might be talking about. A patch is included with the advisory along with instructions on how to apply the patch and fix the issue. ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/CERT/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-04:05.openssl.asc Regards, Phil. I used the excellent Rootkit Hunter security assessment tool: http://www.rootkit.nl/projects/rootkit_hunter.html and it found that I'm running OpenSSH 3.6.1p1, which has at least one vulnerability. I only know how to install/upgrade from ports. OpenSSH is part of the ports collection, but the build I'm running was included with the OS. What's the right way to proceed here? thanks /wsbs ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PPP Connection.
On February 25, 2005 14:09, you wrote: On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 12:11:34PM -0500, Peterhin wrote: I have 5.3 installed, and am trying to get my dial-up going. In the handbook under 21.2.1.2 when I try to do a 'cd /dev' 'sh MAKEDEV tun0' I get can't open makedev: No such file or directory The 5.x series uses a devfs filesystem which creates devices on the fly. You don't have to make the devices manually anymore. I also tried using G. Lehey instructions from his book, I get to the point where the external modem dials at reboot, but no connection. I have looked in the log files and it looks like Authentication failure is my problem. OK, finger trouble on my part I have a connection now. Username and password is incorrect? Post us the actual contents of the logs and your ppp.conf (with the username/password blanked out) and we will have a better idea just what is going wrong with your system. I have a good connection however if I try to disconnect by typing at the 'PPP ON localhost' close 'PPP ON Localhost or use the 'q' I get back to the # however the modem has not disconnected. I did a 'ping' to confirm on (ttyv1) -- Peter Civil Liberties are at the whim of those in power ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: updating system version of OpenSSH
David Newman wrote: What is the procedure for patching/updating system version of OpenSSH on an FBSD 5.2.1 box? I used the excellent Rootkit Hunter security assessment tool: http://www.rootkit.nl/projects/rootkit_hunter.html and it found that I'm running OpenSSH 3.6.1p1, which has at least one vulnerability. I only know how to install/upgrade from ports. OpenSSH is part of the ports collection, but the build I'm running was included with the OS. What's the right way to proceed here? thanks Someone please correct me if I'm wrong on this but I believe rkhunter is just checking the version 3.6.1 and doesn't account for the 'p1' part which refers to a FBSD patch that corrected the vulnerability rkhunter is referring to. IOW, I don't think you need to update ssh on 5.2.1 if your motive is merely that rkhunter flagged it. To be sure, check the older security advisories at freebsd.org and I bet you'll find a reference to it. G ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SCO file system mounting
David Bear wrote: On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 01:13:06AM -0600, Aftab Jahan Subedar wrote: Hauan David A wrote: -Original Message- From: Aftab Jahan Subedar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 2:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SCO file system mounting Hello to all. Would 'mount' mount the SCO file system ? Does any body know ? I presume the SCO system as partition type 2 or partition type 3 or partition type 0x63. If SCO is running... How about mount -t nfs? I used to do this all the time six/seven years ago with 3.2-RELEASE, I think that's what it was. dave Good idea . but the bad thing is its only running the serial terminals. no nic ! well, there's ckermit.. it works fine over serial lines since thats when it was designed. kermit file transfer may be what you want. Thanks Dave. Thanks. Aftab Jahan Subedar http://www.tucows.com/preview/379868.html - Kayoty ,my Spyware detector ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you very much. I will do that. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SCO file system mounting
Ruben de Groot wrote: On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 01:13:06AM -0600, Aftab Jahan Subedar typed: Hauan David A wrote: -Original Message- From: Aftab Jahan Subedar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 2:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SCO file system mounting Hello to all. Would 'mount' mount the SCO file system ? Does any body know ? I presume the SCO system as partition type 2 or partition type 3 or partition type 0x63. If SCO is running... How about mount -t nfs? I used to do this all the time six/seven years ago with 3.2-RELEASE, I think that's what it was. dave Good idea . but the bad thing is its only running the serial terminals. no nic ! No problem. Use SLIP or PPP. Ruben Thanks I will try that too. along with ckermit. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PPP Connection.
On Friday 25 February 2005 02:12 pm, Peterhin wrote:
On February 25, 2005 14:09, you wrote:
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 12:11:34PM -0500, Peterhin wrote:
I have 5.3 installed, and am trying to get my dial-up going.
In the handbook under 21.2.1.2 when I try to do a
'cd /dev'
'sh MAKEDEV tun0'
I get can't open makedev: No such file or directory
The 5.x series uses a devfs filesystem which creates devices on the
fly. You don't have to make the devices manually anymore.
I also tried using G. Lehey instructions from his book, I get to
the point where the external modem dials at reboot, but no
connection. I have looked in the log files and it looks like
Authentication failure is my problem.
OK, finger trouble on my part I have a connection now.
Username and password is incorrect? Post us the actual contents of
the logs and your ppp.conf (with the username/password blanked out)
and we will have a better idea just what is going wrong with your
system.
I have a good connection however if I try to disconnect by typing
at the 'PPP ON localhost' close
'PPP ON Localhost
or use the 'q'
I get back to the #
however the modem has not disconnected. I did a 'ping' to confirm on
(ttyv1)
Is ppp still active in the background? What does 'ps ax | grep ppp'
return?
I used to kill ppp using a hangup python script:
#!/usr/local/bin/python
# /usr/local/bin/hangup.py
import os, string, sys
a = 'ps ax | grep ppp'
b = os.popen(a).readlines()
c = b[0]
d = string.split(c)
os.popen('kill ' + d[0])
Best regards,
Andrew Gould
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Re: RELENG_5 installworld fails
On Friday 25 February 2005 11:46 am, Velko Ivanov wrote: Hello, a freshly cvsup-ed to RELENG_5 i386 machine failed during 'make installworld' today with reason 'uuencode: can not find uuencode' in the share/syscons/scrnmaps directory. I changed the Makefile in /usr/src/share/syscons/scrnmaps, specifying the absolute path to the uuencode executable - /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/uuencode/uuencode and the installation finished without errors. I'm not very familiar with the build system, so I'm wondering if I did some mistake to get this error, and can I expect the system to work well after my intervention, or is it better to cvsup again and reinstall? If I get to this, I will cvsup to RELENG_5_3, I wouldn't update to RELENG_5 if I knew it was 5.4-PRERELEASE - my mistake. Nothing has changed in those specific areas since 2/11 and I have successful builds on 2/11 and 2/24. A current cvsup also shows no changes. That makes it look like an error on your end. I log my cvsup runs and then convert it into HTML. That lets me browse the changes back to cvsweb.cgi. So, you need to supply more info. Are you setting any special parameters in /etc/make.conf? Did you follow UPDATING as far as the sequence of buildworld, [build/install]kernel, boot to single user mode and do the installworld? Before this build, when did you last update your system? Since I have done the cvsup of src-all, I am going to update my system but on 5-stable that takes awhile :). There were a number of changes and I might as well get up todate again. Look at what you have done and see if there may be areas that affect the builds and installs. Since you got it to install, another go at the whole process may produce a update that doesn't error off. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
windows
can i install freebsd on a compaq presario 5020 i have windows 2000 exec. on it now but would like to change if i can thank you james rhodes No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: windows
can i install freebsd on a compaq presario 5020 i have windows 2000 exec. on it now but would like to change if i can I am not familiar with the presario 5020 but I have had great success installing FBSD on a variety of older Compaq machines. /wsbs __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
correct cvsup for 5.3 snapshot
I am currently running a snapshot FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE-SNAP001 and I want to update this...I am presuming to 5.3-STABLE ? Is this the correct cvsup file? *default host=someserver.freebsd.org *default base=/var/db *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_3 *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress src-all Thanks- -- J.D. Bronson Aurora Health Care // Information Services // Milwaukee, WI USA Office: 414.978.8282 // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Pager: 414.314.8282 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ip addr changes on 5.3 but not on 4.8
I'm running both 4.8 and 5.3 on two different boxes in my office. Both have specified in rc.conf their hostname and default router (a win xp box with my dial up connection) and ifconfig_dc0=DHCP # 5.3 ifconfig_ep0=DHCP # 4.8 Also the 5.3 box has ipv6_enable=YES I don't understand what the ipv6 is about although guess it comes from /stand/sysinstall config. Also don't get why 4.8 is using EP0 for the nic while 5.3 uses DC0 for the nic - don't know if this is because of the FBSD version or my hardware on each box. Here's the problem, hope the preceding is a good background to it. Find that the IP address for the 5.3 box gets changed on a fairly regular basis by (I guess) my xp gateway so that I then have to change the gateway hosts file, the 5.3 hosts file and 5.3 rc.conf file. The 4.8 box's IP addr has been stable. Any idea where I start to fix this? Would like the 5.3 box's IP addr to remain stable as well. Marty Marty Landman, Face 2 Interface Inc. 845-679-9387 Search Sort Easily: http://face2interface.com/Products/FormATable.shtml Web Installed Formmail: http://face2interface.com/formINSTal ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: correct cvsup for 5.3 snapshot
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:07:36 -0600 J.D. Bronson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] and I want to update this...I am presuming to 5.3-STABLE ? [...] *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_3 If you want -stable, change this to read: *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5 - John. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: correct cvsup for 5.3 snapshot
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:07:36 -0600 J.D. Bronson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am currently running a snapshot FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE-SNAP001 and I want to update this...I am presuming to 5.3-STABLE ? [...] My apologies, I meant to include this link in the previous e-mail: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvs-tags.html - John. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/usr/include/malloc.h:3:2: #error malloc.h has been replaced by stdlib.h Error code 1
Hi, if I try to build the tac_plus-4.4beta2 Tacacs Server from http://www.networkforums.net/ on my FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p5 I get this Error message bash-2.05b# make tac_plus gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -c acct.c gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -c authen.c gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -c author.c gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -c config.c gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -c choose_authen.c gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -c default_fn.c gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -c default_v0_fn.c gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -c do_acct.c gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -c do_author.c gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -c dump.c gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -c enable.c gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -c encrypt.c gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -c expire.c gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -c hash.c gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -c tac_plus.c gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -c md5.c gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -c packet.c gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -c parse.c gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -c programs.c gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -c pw.c gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -c pwlib.c gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -c report.c gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -c sendauth.c gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -c sendpass.c gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -c time_limit.c time_limit.c: In function `process': time_limit.c:154: warning: passing arg 1 of `localtime' from incompatible pointer type gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -c utils.c In file included from utils.c:28: /usr/include/malloc.h:3:2: #error malloc.h has been replaced by stdlib.h *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/mib/tac_plus-4.4beta2. bash-2.05b# pwd /home/mib/tac_plus-4.4beta2 bash-2.05b# Is there any way to fix this problem ??? best regards Michael ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PPP Connection.
OK here is what I get when I 'ps ax | grep ppp' '202 ?? ls 0:00.04 /usr/sbin/ppp -quiet -auto -nat papchap' FYI. the modem does disconnect after the '300sec'. and I can re-dial to get the connection again, so that all works fine. Also I think what is happening is that on boot-up once it gets to 'looking for host time.nrc.ca and service NTP' the modem starts, so that explains why it starts at boot-up, it needs to satisfy that call. Part of this stp learning curve for a newbie like me is also learning the logic behind the sequencing of different activities. Now having said that, a further question, and I have read the man pages, handbook, and sundry other books, is I can't seem to understand how I can setup 'ppp' to dial out manually. (ie. only when I want it to, as I have another computer that shares the one phone line that I have avail. for this purpose). If you could shed some light on this function I would be very appreciative. As for your suggestion: 'I used to kill ppp using a hangup python script:' At this stage that is over my head. Peter Civil Liberties are at the whim of those in power ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: correct cvsup for 5.3 snapshot
At 03:22 PM 2/25/2005, John Wilson wrote: On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:07:36 -0600 J.D. Bronson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] and I want to update this...I am presuming to 5.3-STABLE ? [...] *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_3 If you want -stable, change this to read: *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5 - John. thanx! -- J.D. Bronson Aurora Health Care // Information Services // Milwaukee, WI USA Office: 414.978.8282 // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Pager: 414.314.8282 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where are the Xorg config files ?
On Thursday, 24 February 2005 at 22:59:54 +0100, Edward Lichtner wrote: Hi all, I installed FreeBSD 5.3 along with Xorg 6.7.0-9 and KDE 3.3.0-4. I started KDE by creating an .xinitrc file in my home directory containing the line : exec startkde I then run startx and KDE starts up and works fine. However, there is no xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 or in /usr/X11R6/etc/X11, and a ³find² search reveals no xorg.conf file anywhere. Since KDE seems to work out of the box, I assume there is a config file that has been generated for Xorg somewhere. Any idea where I can find it ? Look in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log. You should see something like: Release Date: 18 December 2003 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.7 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 5.2 i386 [ELF] Current Operating System: FreeBSD wantadilla.lemis.com 5.2-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT #1: Tue Jul 20 09:24:15 CST 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/src/FreeBSD/WANTADILLA/src/sys/WANTADILLA i386 Build Date: 20 July 2004 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Fri Dec 24 18:25:30 2004 (==) Using config file: /etc/XF86Config (etc). You'll note in this case that it fell back to the XF86Config. This may be what's happening to you. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. Hi Greg, I checked /var/log/Xorg.0.log. The file starts the same as yours. But the line that on your system says : (==) Using config file: /etc/XF86Config Says on mine : (EE) Unable to locate/open config file It seems that my system uses default values instead. And KDE starts up OK. Is there a reason why I should consider creating a config file anyway ? Edward ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: correct cvsup for 5.3 snapshot
On Friday 25 February 2005 03:07 pm, J.D. Bronson wrote: I am currently running a snapshot FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE-SNAP001 and I want to update this...I am presuming to 5.3-STABLE ? Is this the correct cvsup file? *default host=someserver.freebsd.org *default base=/var/db *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_3 *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress src-all Thanks- Hi J.D., What you've got will get you the 5.3 security version. What you want would be: *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5 This change would get you the sources for 5.3 stable. Don -- Donald J. O'Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not totally useless, I can be used as a bad example. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ip addr changes on 5.3 but not on 4.8
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 04:16:40PM -0500, Marty Landman wrote: [...] Here's the problem, hope the preceding is a good background to it. Find that the IP address for the 5.3 box gets changed on a fairly regular basis by (I guess) my xp gateway so that I then have to change the gateway hosts file, the 5.3 hosts file and 5.3 rc.conf file. The 4.8 box's IP addr has been stable. Any idea where I start to fix this? Would like the 5.3 box's IP addr to remain stable as well. This has nothing to do with the FreeBSD boxes, but rather a configuration issue with your DHCP server. The DHCP server can be configured so that it will always give the same IP for a particular NIC. Talk to your admin about it. -- Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You can get farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone - Al Capone ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PPP Connection.
On Friday 25 February 2005 03:47 pm, Peterhin wrote: OK here is what I get when I 'ps ax | grep ppp' '202 ?? ls 0:00.04 /usr/sbin/ppp -quiet -auto -nat papchap' FYI. the modem does disconnect after the '300sec'. and I can re-dial to get the connection again, so that all works fine. Also I think what is happening is that on boot-up once it gets to 'looking for host time.nrc.ca and service NTP' the modem starts, so that explains why it starts at boot-up, it needs to satisfy that call. Part of this stp learning curve for a newbie like me is also learning the logic behind the sequencing of different activities. Now having said that, a further question, and I have read the man pages, handbook, and sundry other books, is I can't seem to understand how I can setup 'ppp' to dial out manually. (ie. only when I want it to, as I have another computer that shares the one phone line that I have avail. for this purpose). If you could shed some light on this function I would be very appreciative. If you have 2 computers needing to dial-out, you might consider sharing the ppp connection. The online handbook covers this at: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/userppp.html As for your suggestion: 'I used to kill ppp using a hangup python script:' At this stage that is over my head. Peter Civil Liberties are at the whim of those in power ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /usr/include/malloc.h:3:2: #error malloc.h has been replaced by stdlib.h Error code 1
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 10:51:01PM +0100, Michael Bohn wrote: [...] In file included from utils.c:28: /usr/include/malloc.h:3:2: #error malloc.h has been replaced by stdlib.h *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/mib/tac_plus-4.4beta2. bash-2.05b# pwd /home/mib/tac_plus-4.4beta2 bash-2.05b# Is there any way to fix this problem ??? Yes. Do what the error message says. Replace malloc.h in the source with stdlib.h. -- Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jesus saves. Allah forgives. Cthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
