Site Compatibility Issue
I just recently started up a new page and was wondering if it looks okay on FreBSD. I try to make things compatible for all operating systems, regarding HTML. It's: http://o.o.angelfire.com/ and/or http://www.angelfire.com/o.o/index.html I'd greatly appreciate any and all feedback you could give me on this. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how long does send-pr take to post
On 2007-12-20 17:19, Aryeh M. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the past I have not been able to do send-pr but now that I fixed my local mail issues all other email apps work... how long should I wait for the pr to show up before I decide some kind of error happened. A few hours for the email notice saying 'we received your report, and it has been filed as number XXX' is probably reasonable. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Redirecting STDOUT
At 08:49 AM 12/21/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am in the process of debugging a script and I would like to have the output of stdout redirected to a file. After reading about redirection on the Internet, I was under the impression the following would redirect stdout to a file, but I cannot seem to get it to work. tar -cvzf root.tgz /root /dev/null 2/home/jay/tarlog I'm sure it is something simple I am doing wrong, but I am not seeing it. Thanks for your help. Jay In your command line above you are redirecting stdout to /dev/null and stderr to your file. try: tar -cvzf root.tgz /root /home/jay/tarlog 21 -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Redirecting STDOUT
I am in the process of debugging a script and I would like to have the output of stdout redirected to a file. After reading about redirection on the Internet, I was under the impression the following would redirect stdout to a file, but I cannot seem to get it to work. tar -cvzf root.tgz /root /dev/null 2/home/jay/tarlog I'm sure it is something simple I am doing wrong, but I am not seeing it. Thanks for your help. Jay ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Customized FreeBSD CD (was: Can I install Free BSD latest version on my laptop with dual boot?)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Thanks for your immediate response Yes, I spend two days and found out there are lot of tips in your documentation thanks… After compiling the Free BSD Kernel and making some changes on my system then how do I make the installable CD/DVD from my source (My Free BSD) to distribute to others… One more question: Can I use ZFS on Free BSD? Cheers, B.Manikandan Bournemouth, UK Please do not top post. There are couple of ways to create a custom FreeBSD CD and you will find them by simply googling. I have not tried any, but this one looks promising: http://livecd.sourceforge.net/documentos.php It is available in the ports collection too: /usr/ports/sysutils/livecd ZFS will be available on FreeBSD 7. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What priority this app running?
--- Pieter de Goeje [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 20 December 2007, Unga wrote: Hi all $ ps auxl -w | grep amarok test 1707 0.0 9.4 61680 48544 ?? S 12:29AM 0:17.29 amarokapp 1003 1 1 20 0 ksere Could I check with the list what is the priority this amarokapp is running? Priority isn't shown in the output above. Try $ ps -o pri,ni,rtprio,command -p `pgrep amarok` This will display priority, nice value and realtime priority (in that order). The ps man page doesn't show the values for priority, therefore, what should be the values it should display for lowest and highest priority (realtime)? A lower value means higher priority. Realtime priority 0 is as high as you can get. See also rtprio(1). Thanks all for replies. Priority is still not clear to me. $ ps -o pri,ni,rtprio,command -p `pgrep amarok` PRI NI RTPRIO COMMAND 20 0 normal amarokapp 1) I wonder why there are 3 columns for priority, not just one? 2) How should I read above? Is it Priority=20, ie. NI=0, RTPRIO=normal? Does it all mean the same thing, like the bytes=1048576 and KB=1024 and MB=1? 3) The rtprio(1) says Priority is an integer between 0 and RTP_PRIO_MAX (usually 31). 0 is the highest priority. But when I run following command: $ ps aux -o pri,ni,rtprio,command USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TT STAT STARTED TIME COMMAND PRI NI RTPRIO COMMAND root 10 99.2 0.0 0 8 ?? RL7:40PM 0:00.00 [idle: cpu1] 171 0 idle:25 [idle: cpu1] root 26 0.0 0.0 0 8 ?? WL7:40PM 0:00.02 [irq18: envy24ht -80 0 intr:4 [irq18: envy24ht test 1212 0.0 9.3 58544 48176 ?? S 8:06PM 0:06.15 amarokapp 20 0 normal amarokapp That is, PID PRI NI RTPRIO 10 171 0 idle:25 26 -80 0 intr:4 1212 20 0 normal This shows priority ranges at least from -80 to 171 contrary to the range mentioned in rtprio(1). Does this means PID=26 has a higher priority than PID=1212? 4) Can a PRI=0 be considered Realtime? 5) What is the meaning of priority=0 in /etc/login.conf? Realtime? 6) What is the value should I set for priority in /etc/login.conf if I want Realtime? Kind Regards Unga Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fw: Can I install Free BSD latest version on my laptop with dual boot?
Hi, Thanks for your immediate response Yes, I spend two days and found out there are lot of tips in your documentation thanks? After compiling the Free BSD Kernel and making some changes on my system then how do I make the installable CD/DVD from my source (My Free BSD) to distribute to others? One more question: Can I use ZFS on Free BSD? Cheers, B.Manikandan Bournemouth, UK Manolis Kiagias [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18/12/2007 07:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject:Re: Fw: Can I install Free BSD latest version on my laptop with dual boot? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We would like to tune FreeBSD according to our business needs. Please forward some documents for how to compile the Free BSD kernel and how we can deploy our compiled version of Free BSD into a new machine. Please help me ASAP Cheers, B.Manikandan UK Before actually tuning FreeBSD (or any other OS for that matter) to your business needs (which we don't know...) you should take more time to familiarize yourself with the system, perform test installs and so on. Also don't forget to read the documentation. FreeBSD has an excellent documentation set, comprising of FAQ, articles and an excellent handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ The handbook will answer most of your questions. Many others you will be able to answer yourself by experimenting and gaining experience. You will only get useful answers from the list if your questions are quite specific and you have done your homework beforehand. - This communication is for informational purposes only. It is not intended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. All market prices, data and other information are not warranted as to completeness or accuracy and are subject to change without notice. Any comments or statements made herein do not necessarily reflect those of JPMorgan Chase Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential, legally privileged, and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Although this transmission and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by JPMorgan Chase Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates, as applicable, for any loss or damage arising in any way from its use. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. Please refer to http://www.jpmorgan.com/pages/disclosures for disclosures relating to UK legal entities. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My new kernel could not be compiled
I have followed the FreeBSD Handbook, and I just want to add the usb2.0 and sound devices to my kernel. Maybe I canceled too much modules, though the make error shows the same msg saying ng_prase_int32 type** My kernel configure file: -- Ray Stinger, nickname lichray The best way to predict the future is to invent it. -- let focus = 'computing' in here: http://let-in.blogspot.com (let (me Program!)): http://lichray.blogspot.com # # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386 # # For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on # Kernel Configuration Files: # # http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html # # The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the # latest information. # # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the # device lines is also present in the ../../conf/NOTES and NOTES files. # If you are in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first # in NOTES. # # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.413.2.13 2005/04/02 16:37:58 scottl Exp $ machine i386 cpu I486_CPU cpu I586_CPU cpu I686_CPU ident YUETIME # To statically compile in device wiring instead of /boot/device.hints #hints GENERIC.hints # Default places to look for devices. options SCHED_4BSD # 4BSD scheduler options INET# InterNETworking #optionsINET6 # IPv6 communications protocols options FFS # Berkeley Fast Filesystem options SOFTUPDATES # Enable FFS soft updates support options UFS_ACL # Support for access control lists options UFS_DIRHASH # Improve performance on big directories options MD_ROOT # MD is a potential root device options NFSCLIENT # Network Filesystem Client options NFSSERVER # Network Filesystem Server options NFS_ROOT# NFS usable as /, requires NFSCLIENT #optionsMSDOSFS # MSDOS Filesystem #optionsCD9660 # ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS # Process filesystem (requires PSEUDOFS) options PSEUDOFS# Pseudo-filesystem framework options GEOM_GPT# GUID Partition Tables. options COMPAT_43 # Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 # Compatible with FreeBSD4 options SCSI_DELAY=5000 # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options KTRACE # ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM # SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG # SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM # SYSV-style semaphores options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING # POSIX P1003_1B real-time extensions options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV# install a CDEV entry in /dev options AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT# Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~128k to driver. options AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT# Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~215k to driver. options ADAPTIVE_GIANT # Giant mutex is adaptive. device apic# I/O APIC # Bus support. Do not remove isa, even if you have no isa slots device isa device eisa device pci # Floppy drives device fdc # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives # deviceataraid # ATA RAID drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives # deviceatapist # ATAPI tape drives options ATA_STATIC_ID # Static device numbering # SCSI Controllers #device ahb # EISA AHA1742 family #device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices #device ahd # AHA39320/29320 and onboard AIC79xx devices #device amd # AMD 53C974 (Tekram DC-390(T)) #device isp # Qlogic family #device mpt # LSI-Logic MPT-Fusion #device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic #device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets + those of `ncr') #device trm # Tekram DC395U/UW/F DC315U adapters #device adv # Advansys SCSI adapters #device adw # Advansys wide SCSI adapters #device aha #
Re: timekeeping on jail servers
On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 11:02:12AM -0500, Bill Moran wrote: In response to Michael W. Lucas : Hi, Been searching around without results: Has anyone come up with a decent way to do timekeeping on a jail server? ntpd(8) binds to all addresses, and I'd rather not do a ntpdate out of cron. I'm not entirely sure I comprehend where you're having trouble, Michael, but we use openntpd on all our systems, specifically because you can tell it what addresses to bind to. That would be you don't have my problem. Openntpd will solve my problem. Thanks for all the pointers, including the dozen or so private ones! ==ml -- Michael W. Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.BlackHelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Now Shipping: Absolute FreeBSD -- http://www.AbsoluteFreeBSD.com On 5/4/2007, the TSA kept 3 pairs of my soiled undies for security reasons. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Michael, Is there any special reason you do not want to use ntpdate from cron? Is working fine for me on FreeBSD jail servers. Best Regards, Catalin Miclaus - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Redirecting STDOUT
Hello, jhall. On 21 ??? 2007 ?., 17:49:28 you wrote: jvn tar -cvzf root.tgz /root /dev/null 2/home/jay/tarlog jvn I'm sure it is something simple I am doing wrong, but I am not seeing it. what is your shell? -- Best regards, Michael mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Redirecting STDOUT
On 14:49:28 Dec 21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am in the process of debugging a script and I would like to have the output of stdout redirected to a file. After reading about redirection on the Internet, I was under the impression the following would redirect stdout to a file, but I cannot seem to get it to work. tar -cvzf root.tgz /root /dev/null 2/home/jay/tarlog I'm sure it is something simple I am doing wrong, but I am not seeing it. Yes. Very simple indeed. This is highly shell dependent but on ksh, this command works. $ tar zcvf root.tgz /root /home/jay/tarlog 2/dev/null The above command will redirect stderr (fdes 2) to the bit bucket and stdout to /home/jay/tarlog. If you wish to redirect both stderr and stdout to a single file, you can try this command. $ tar zcvf root.tgz /root /home/jay/tarlog 21 -Girish ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/var growing too fast
zbigniew szalbot writes: I thought I would ask your advice. I only have a 2 GB /var slice and space is shrinking fast. It may be that something else is eating up available space but I am not sure how to measure it. Every day about 1% more of available space is taken. Start by running: du /var | sort -nr | head -n 50 | more This will show you the 50 biggest directories. If you don't understand why they're the size they are ... that's your first step. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partitions size for 80GB HDD and 2GB RAM
On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 03:34:30PM -0800, Alexander Rudyk (Akvelon) wrote: Thank all of you for really helpful answers. I am thinking about this configuration (might be helpful for someone in the future) a: / (root) 256 MB b: /swap 4096 MB d: /tmp768 MB e: /usr 8192 MB f: /var 2048 MB g: /home all the rest. Think that 8GB will be enough for /usr ports, local and build os from scratch, and 2GB for /var - in any case I can symlink some of those to /home Depends on what things you build. Some requite huge amounts of space. Openoffice is one example. Of course, for many of these, you can get prebuilt packages. jerry So we need about 15GB of free storage only for FreeBSD needs. Thx Alex -Original Message- From: Nikola Le??i?? [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 12:13 PM To: Alexander Rudyk (Akvelon) Cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Partitions size for 80GB HDD and 2GB RAM On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:26:41 -0800 Alexander Rudyk (Akvelon) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nikola, Thank you for your extender answer. I have two more comments. Did you consider /var as your email db partition. I really don???t know how big will be my mail db on freebsd, but after half of year I have about 4GB outlook mail db. So 1GB for /var might be not enough in my case. The hier(7) manpage is very useful to understand the default directory structure: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=hierapropos=0sektion=0manpath=FreeBSD+6.2-RELEASEformat=html As for mail, it depends on how you plan to receive and handle it; if you just download mail from pop3 account, it will be stored in your home by a mail client (this goes as well for mail you export from Outlook to e.g. Thunderbird). For locally (system) delivered mail, /var/spool is the default place, but unless you want yo use your laptop as a mail server, it's unlikely you will store your mail there. Having /home as part of /usr is the good point. But in case of backup it make sense to have /home as separate partition. What you think about this? Of course it's very useful for backups. I just thought it was useful to warn you about how much space /usr/ports could need because the default installation procedure on FreeBSD is to compile sources (of thirs party applications and of FreeBSD itself). As a useful example on how much space you might need, here are rough sizes on my home desktop computer, used for everyday work. I have ~850 ports installed. /usr/ports~2G (with current distfiles and packages that happen to be there + you will need at least 2-3G for large upgrades, sometimes 10G) /usr/local~5G (third party applications + additions such as TeXLive = ~1G) /usr/home~20G - /usr total used: ~30G (includes FreeBSD itself + some other smaller storages) If you plan to build FreeBSD itself in the future, then /usr must be even bigger. If all this leaves enough room for /home for you, then it's certainly very useful to make it separate partition. -- Nikola Le??i?? :: ?? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /var growing too fast
Hello, Robert Huff pisze: zbigniew szalbot writes: I thought I would ask your advice. I only have a 2 GB /var slice and space is shrinking fast. It may be that something else is eating up available space but I am not sure how to measure it. Every day about 1% more of available space is taken. Start by running: du /var | sort -nr | head -n 50 | more Great! Thank you. /var/mysql is the biggest. It kind of strange because I only have maybe 7MB worth of data on mysql database. I guess these all are necesseray files though. I did check on a different machine I have access to, mysql dir is even bigger. Thank you Robert! Zbigniew Szalbot ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /var growing too fast
On Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 07:09:01AM +0100, zbigniew szalbot wrote: Hello, I thought I would ask your advice. I only have a 2 GB /var slice and space is shrinking fast. I see that most space is taken by /var/db. $ du -hs /var/db 1.4G/var/db $ du -hs /var 1.7G/var $ df /dev/ad0s1e 2178510 1738396 26583487%/var Is it possible to release some space from /var/db? I seem to recall that /var/db is pretty important and I better not lose it... Yes, if you are running some database, it can grow fast. Do you have a large, catch-all, partition, such as /home? If go, move /var/db to and make a symlink. You should be able to copy it all with tar. Pick a make-sense name for the directory in the new directory such as 'var.db' Then, in the original /var directory, rename db temporarily - mv db olddb for example and make the link.ln -s /home/var.db db (presuming that you put it in /home) If it all seems good, then rm the olddb and all should be well. jerry It may be that something else is eating up available space but I am not sure how to measure it. Every day about 1% more of available space is taken. Many thanks for ideas what to do (apart from bying a bigger drive :) And season greetings to you all! Zbigniew Szalbot ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: timekeeping on jail servers
In response to shinny knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 11:02:12AM -0500, Bill Moran wrote: In response to Michael W. Lucas : Been searching around without results: Has anyone come up with a decent way to do timekeeping on a jail server? ntpd(8) binds to all addresses, and I'd rather not do a ntpdate out of cron. I'm not entirely sure I comprehend where you're having trouble, Michael, but we use openntpd on all our systems, specifically because you can tell it what addresses to bind to. That would be you don't have my problem. Openntpd will solve my problem. Thanks for all the pointers, including the dozen or so private ones! Hello Michael, Is there any special reason you do not want to use ntpdate from cron? Is working fine for me on FreeBSD jail servers. The reason that is not recommended is that it results in sudden steps of the clock. Occasionally, these steps go backwards. Software that is very sensitive to time changes (make processes, database servers, anything doing calculations WRT time) can break, crash, or work inaccurately. ntpd works by speeding up or slowing down the clock to catch up to the correct time. As a result, it's much less likely to disturb time- sensitive applications. Also, over time ntpd will tune the clock so that it is actually ticking correctly, unlike the ntpdate in cron solution. For example, if your clock cronically ticks 1 second slow every 5 minutes: * running ntpdate from cron every five minutes will result in a 1 second jump every time it runs. * Running ntpd will result in the kernel speeding up the clock so that it actually ticks correctly. A lot of people new to ntpd think that it's not working because they start it and their time is still wrong. If the time is badly wrong when ntpd starts, it can take quite a while for it to correct it. If you have a machine that is frequently turned off, ntpdate should be run at boot to snap the time into correctness, at which point ntpd will keep it there. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
freenx server
Anyone get the freeNX server working from nomachine? When I try to build it from /usr/ports/net/freenx it says it is broken under xorg 7.2 I've upgrade to xorg 7.3.x and modified the make file and it builds everything but nxagent, so it fails to `make install` install: /usr/ports/net/nxserver/work/nx-X11/programs/Xserver/nxagent: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions
How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. === Last update $Date: 2005/08/10 02:21:44 $ This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list. If you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your message: - You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate. - You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read. - You asked more than one unrelated question in one message. - You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone. - You sent out the same message more than once. - You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions. If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you will get more than one copy of this message from different people. Read on, and your next message will be more successful. This document is also available on the web at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html. = Contents: I:Introduction II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions III: Should I ask -questions or -hackers? IV: How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions V:How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions I: Introduction === This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the newcomers), and also those who answer the questions (the hackers). Note that the term hacker has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for the latter activity is cracker, but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. In the following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that, we'll look at how to answer one. II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions == When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] In this message, amongst other things, it told you how to unsubscribe. Here's a typical message: Welcome to the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list! If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your subscription page at: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions/[EMAIL PROTECTED] (obviously, substitute your mail address for [EMAIL PROTECTED]). You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word 'help' in the subject or body (don't include the quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. You must know your password to change your options (including changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. Normally, Mailman will remind you of your freebsd.org mailing list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you prefer. This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or change your account options. There is also a button on your options page that will email your current password to you. Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send how to questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one which you specified when you subscribed. If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on the list, this may mean one of two things: 1. You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed. That's where keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy. For example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Since then, I have changed it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I were to try to remove [EMAIL PROTECTED] from the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with which I joined. 2. You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to
Re: Redirecting STDOUT
Hello, jhall. On 21 ??? 2007 ?., 17:49:28 you wrote: jvn tar -cvzf root.tgz /root /dev/null 2/home/jay/tarlog jvn I'm sure it is something simple I am doing wrong, but I am not seeing it. what is your shell? -- Best regards, Michael mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] /bin/sh Jay ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Redirecting STDOUT
Hello, jhall. On 21 ??? 2007 ?., 19:59:27 you wrote: Hello, jhall. On 21 ??? 2007 ?., 17:49:28 you wrote: jvn tar -cvzf root.tgz /root /dev/null 2/home/jay/tarlog jvn I'm sure it is something simple I am doing wrong, but I am not seeing it. what is your shell? -- Best regards, Michael mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] jvn /bin/sh In that case you only redirecting STDERR to file. As you've been already told STDOUT will be redirected with $ command 1file or $ command file adding 21 will also redirect STDERR to this file -- Best regards, Michael mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Redirecting STDOUT
At 08:49 AM 12/21/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am in the process of debugging a script and I would like to have the output of stdout redirected to a file. After reading about redirection on the Internet, I was under the impression the following would redirect stdout to a file, but I cannot seem to get it to work. tar -cvzf root.tgz /root /dev/null 2/home/jay/tarlog I'm sure it is something simple I am doing wrong, but I am not seeing it. Thanks for your help. Jay In your command line above you are redirecting stdout to /dev/null and stderr to your file. try: tar -cvzf root.tgz /root /home/jay/tarlog 21 When I run the above, I receive the following message. Ambiguous output redirect. Any suggestions? What I found Googling on the message indicates I am trying to write the output to multiple locations. I am using the bourne shell. I am using the right syntax? Thanks, Jay ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Complete FreeBSD: errata and addenda
The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception. Inevitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. The Complete FreeBSD has been through a total of five editions, including its predecessor Installing and Running FreeBSD. Two of these have been reprinted with corrections. I maintain a series of errata pages. Start at http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata information. Note also that the book has now been released for free download in PDF form. Instead of downloading the changed pages, you may prefer to download the entire book. See http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/ for more information. Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing? Please let me know: I'm no longer constantly updating it, but I may be able to help Greg ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: timekeeping on jail servers
--On December 21, 2007 11:23:03 AM -0500 Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In response to shinny knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The reason that is not recommended is that it results in sudden steps of the clock. Occasionally, these steps go backwards. Software that is very sensitive to time changes (make processes, database servers, anything doing calculations WRT time) can break, crash, or work inaccurately. ntpdate -B should slew the time slowly. (According to the manpage.) Happy Holidays! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Redirecting STDOUT
At 11:12 AM 12/21/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 08:49 AM 12/21/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am in the process of debugging a script and I would like to have the output of stdout redirected to a file. After reading about redirection on the Internet, I was under the impression the following would redirect stdout to a file, but I cannot seem to get it to work. tar -cvzf root.tgz /root /dev/null 2/home/jay/tarlog I'm sure it is something simple I am doing wrong, but I am not seeing it. Thanks for your help. Jay In your command line above you are redirecting stdout to /dev/null and stderr to your file. try: tar -cvzf root.tgz /root /home/jay/tarlog 21 When I run the above, I receive the following message. Ambiguous output redirect. Any suggestions? What I found Googling on the message indicates I am trying to write the output to multiple locations. I am using the bourne shell. I am using the right syntax? Thanks, Jay tar is a bit different in the syntax, this seems to work: tar -f /root.tgz -cvz /root /home/jay/tarlog 21 -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Redirecting STDOUT
In that case you only redirecting STDERR to file. As you've been already told STDOUT will be redirected with $ command 1file or $ command file adding 21 will also redirect STDERR to this file When I run this as a non-root user it works fine. But, when running it as root, it does not produce the expected results. $ ls -l /fjdkslafjdl 2/home/hallja/test2 And, in the file test2, I see ls: /fjdkslafjdl: No such file or directory Running the same command as root, I receive the following results. # ls -l /fjdkslafjdl 2/home/hallja/test2 ls: /fjdkslafjdl: No such file or directory And, in /home/hallja/test2 I see the following. -rw-r--r-- 1 root hallja 0 Dec 21 08:02 2 Why does this not work as root? Thanks, Jay ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: timekeeping on jail servers
In response to John Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED]: --On December 21, 2007 11:23:03 AM -0500 Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In response to shinny knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The reason that is not recommended is that it results in sudden steps of the clock. Occasionally, these steps go backwards. Software that is very sensitive to time changes (make processes, database servers, anything doing calculations WRT time) can break, crash, or work inaccurately. ntpdate -B should slew the time slowly. (According to the manpage.) Not generally suitable for cron because it can take longer to slew than it does for the next cron execution to occur, which would then result in multiple ntpdate programs fighting each other (not sure what the effect of this would be). If you ask me, the -B option is available for people who want to totally hose timekeeping on their system. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: My new kernel could not be compiled
On Friday 21 December 2007 16:42:16 Ray Stinger wrote: I have followed the FreeBSD Handbook, and I just want to add the usb2.0 and sound devices to my kernel. Maybe I canceled too much modules, though the make error shows the same msg saying ng_prase_int32 type** My kernel configure file: Could you be more verbose than `msg saying ng_prase_int32 type**'? :-) It's really hard to guess given so little information. Please paste at least full compiler line and exact error messages. Yuri ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: timekeeping on jail servers
--On Friday, December 21, 2007 13:24:40 -0500 Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In response to John Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED]: --On December 21, 2007 11:23:03 AM -0500 Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In response to shinny knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The reason that is not recommended is that it results in sudden steps of the clock. Occasionally, these steps go backwards. Software that is very sensitive to time changes (make processes, database servers, anything doing calculations WRT time) can break, crash, or work inaccurately. ntpdate -B should slew the time slowly. (According to the manpage.) Not generally suitable for cron because it can take longer to slew than it does for the next cron execution to occur, which would then result in multiple ntpdate programs fighting each other (not sure what the effect of this would be). If I were doing it I would write a script with locking in order to ensure multiple jobs don't fight. Simple. Happy Holidays! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: timekeeping on jail servers
On Dec 21, 2007, at 10:24 AM, Bill Moran wrote: ntpdate -B should slew the time slowly. (According to the manpage.) Not generally suitable for cron because it can take longer to slew than it does for the next cron execution to occur, which would then result in multiple ntpdate programs fighting each other (not sure what the effect of this would be). ntpdate -B calls adjtime(2) and then exits, rather than the process staying around; calling it a second time is fine but it isn't especially useful to keep running ntpdate via cron. One should run ntpd instead unless the system in question is desperately short on memory and a ~1MB RSS process is a burden. If you ask me, the -B option is available for people who want to totally hose timekeeping on their system. Somewhat. :-) -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Redirecting STDOUT
On Dec 21, 2007, at 10:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In that case you only redirecting STDERR to file. As you've been already told STDOUT will be redirected with $ command 1file or $ command file adding 21 will also redirect STDERR to this file When I run this as a non-root user it works fine. But, when running it as root, it does not produce the expected results. $ ls -l /fjdkslafjdl 2/home/hallja/test2 And, in the file test2, I see ls: /fjdkslafjdl: No such file or directory Running the same command as root, I receive the following results. # ls -l /fjdkslafjdl 2/home/hallja/test2 ls: /fjdkslafjdl: No such file or directory And, in /home/hallja/test2 I see the following. -rw-r--r-- 1 root hallja 0 Dec 21 08:02 2 Why does this not work as root? When you are root type in # echo $SHELL Unless you previously invoked /bin/sh # sh you are almost certainly running csh Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: timekeeping on jail servers
In response to John Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED]: --On Friday, December 21, 2007 13:24:40 -0500 Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In response to John Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED]: --On December 21, 2007 11:23:03 AM -0500 Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In response to shinny knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The reason that is not recommended is that it results in sudden steps of the clock. Occasionally, these steps go backwards. Software that is very sensitive to time changes (make processes, database servers, anything doing calculations WRT time) can break, crash, or work inaccurately. ntpdate -B should slew the time slowly. (According to the manpage.) Not generally suitable for cron because it can take longer to slew than it does for the next cron execution to occur, which would then result in multiple ntpdate programs fighting each other (not sure what the effect of this would be). If I were doing it I would write a script with locking in order to ensure multiple jobs don't fight. Simple. Umm At that point, why not just run ntpd? You've basically replaced it with a script anyway. Besides, it's not that easy. As Chuck pointed out, ntpdate calls adjtime() and exits, which means an adjustment might already be in progress when you you call it again. I don't know if ntpdate checks the return pointer from adjtime() to avoid multiple adjustment requests. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: timekeeping on jail servers
--On Friday, December 21, 2007 13:51:29 -0500 Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In response to John Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Not generally suitable for cron because it can take longer to slew than it does for the next cron execution to occur, which would then result in multiple ntpdate programs fighting each other (not sure what the effect of this would be). If I were doing it I would write a script with locking in order to ensure multiple jobs don't fight. Simple. Umm At that point, why not just run ntpd? You've basically replaced it with a script anyway. My suggestions are based on the OP about ntpd binding to everything. Besides, it's not that easy. As Chuck pointed out, ntpdate calls adjtime() and exits, which means an adjustment might already be in progress when you you call it again. I don't know if ntpdate checks the return pointer from adjtime() to avoid multiple adjustment requests. Just out of curiosity, why run it more that once a day? Or for that matter every couple of days? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ls -l takes a forever to finish.
This issue has been resolved. Thanks for your assistance everyone. Changing /etc/nsswitch.conf from passwd: compat to read passwd: files resolved the issue. Thanks Mark - Original Message - From: cpghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mark Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:22 PM Subject: Re: ls -l takes a forever to finish. On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:28:23 -0600 Mark Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this program seems to have the same issues with it. [Please don't top post.] Of course, if ls -lf has those issues, sortls.py will have them too, because it just runs it and sorts its output externally with another sorting algorithm. sortls.py speeds up ls -l considerably for huge (10,000+ entries) directories by using another sorting algorithm, it doesn't do anything else. Just to ask again: while you're waiting for ls -lf, what does top say? Is that process accumulating CPU time, or is it just sitting around waiting, waiting, waiting...? Are you using NFS or another file system where stat(2) is expensive? Thanks Mark - Original Message - From: cpghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mark Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 8:42 AM Subject: Re: ls -l takes a forever to finish. On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:42:44 -0500 Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In response to Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ls | wc strange. i did [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/b]$ a=0;while [ $a -lt 1 ];do mkdir $a;a=$[a+1];done completed 25 seconds on 1Ghz CPU ls takes 0.1 seconds user time, ls -l takes 0.3 second user time. unless you have 486/33 or slower system there is something wrong. Another possible scenario is that the directory is badly fragmented. Unless something has changed since I last researched this (which is possible) FreeBSD doesn't manage directory fragmentation during use. If you're constantly adding and removing files, it's possible that the directory entry is such a mess that it takes ls a long time to process it. Yes, that's also possible. But sorting is really the culprit here: it *is* possible to create a directory with filenames in such a way that it triggers Quicksort's O(N^2) worst case instead of O(N log N). The following Python (2.5) program calls ls -lf and sorts its output with Python's own stable sort() routine (which is NOT qsort(3)). On a directory with 44,000 entries, it runs orders of magnitude faster than ls -l, even though it has to use the decorate-sort-undecorate idiom to sort the output according according the filename, and it is interpreted rather than compiled! I guess that replacing qsort(3) in /usr/src/lib/libc/gen/fts.c:fts_sort() with another sort algorithm which doesn't expose this anomaly would solve that problem. - cut here -- cut here #!/usr/bin/env python # sortls.py -- sort output of ls -lf with python's stable sort routine. import os def sort_ls_lf(path): Sort the output of ls -lf path os.chdir(path) lines = os.popen(ls -lf, r).readlines() dsu = [ (line.split()[-1], line) for line in lines ] dsu.sort() return ''.join(tupl[1] for tupl in dsu) if __name__ == '__main__': import sys if len(sys.argv) 2: print sys.stderr, Usage:, sys.argv[0], path sys.exit(1) path = sys.argv[1] try: print sort_ls_lf(path) except IOError: pass # silently absorb broken pipe and other errors - cut here -- cut here -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.25/744 - Release Date: 4/3/2007 5:32 AM ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: timekeeping on jail servers
In response to John Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED]: --On Friday, December 21, 2007 13:51:29 -0500 Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In response to John Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Not generally suitable for cron because it can take longer to slew than it does for the next cron execution to occur, which would then result in multiple ntpdate programs fighting each other (not sure what the effect of this would be). If I were doing it I would write a script with locking in order to ensure multiple jobs don't fight. Simple. Umm At that point, why not just run ntpd? You've basically replaced it with a script anyway. My suggestions are based on the OP about ntpd binding to everything. Besides, it's not that easy. As Chuck pointed out, ntpdate calls adjtime() and exits, which means an adjustment might already be in progress when you you call it again. I don't know if ntpdate checks the return pointer from adjtime() to avoid multiple adjustment requests. Just out of curiosity, why run it more that once a day? Or for that matter every couple of days? There is the matter of how accurate does your time really need to be? I worked a place where many computers were used for employees to clock in/clock out. Synchronizing time once a day, the clocks would drift enough that employees who showed up on time and left on time would appear to have arrived late and/or left early (up to 5 minutes a day drift). Of course, this is hardware-dependent and even environmentally dependent (computers connected to clean power sources with consistent environmental temperature seem to keep more accurate time in my experience) Other common applications are even more sensitive. If you run NFS or other file sharing, you can run into all sorts of ugliness if time skews more than a few seconds. Web applications can be notoriously buggy if either the server or the client is off by more than a few seconds. With all those potential problems looming, why would you use anything other than a full-blown ntp daemon? I just can't see the excuse for making up other solutions. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hangs instead of reboots on HP s3220n
I have an HP s3220n which will boot just fine, but won't reboot. I noticed this first with the OEM Vista that I played with for a bit before starting to install FreeBSD, but didn't pay much attention to it then. Now when I do a shutdown -r now I get a proper shutdown with the last line on the console saying Rebooting The power stays on, but the machine just hangs at that point. I looked through BIOS settings and all that I found that was possibly meaningful was to reboot after power failure, which I've enabled. But that doesn't help. Although I think that the problem is well before the OS plays any role, the system is running 7.0 Beta 4. This happened with the GENERIC amd64 kernel as well as with my custom one. This machine will be tucked away in a closet and I don't want to hold the power switch to get it to reboot. Any suggestions would be welcome. And if I didn't provide enough information, just let me know what y'all need. Cheers, -j -- Jeffrey Goldberghttp://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hangs instead of reboots on HP s3220n
On Dec 21, 2007, at 3:26 PM, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: I have an HP s3220n which will boot just fine, but won't reboot [...] I get a proper shutdown with the last line on the console saying Rebooting The power stays on, but the machine just hangs at that point. Never mind. It just takes a really long time before anything visible happens on the monitor. At least a minute, though less than 10 minutes. (I waited one full minute and then I left the room, returning 10 minutes later.) Next time I reboot, I'll time it properly. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberghttp://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
amd64 native boot loader?
hi, i've FBSD/amd64 62Rp9 installed. kernel world are my own builds from latest cvsup. on boot I see: FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader odd. i'd expect a native loader ... checking in, /usr/src/sys/boot ls Makefile alpha/arm/ efi/ forth/ia64/ pc98/ sparc64/ READMEarc/ common/ ficl/ i386/ ofw/ powerpc/ other arches seem to be there ... just not amd64. where's the src for the amd64? thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD 6.3 Release?
Hi everyone, Mi question is because checking the FreeBSD 6.3 Release schedule, I note that the version 6.3 is upcoming, but the RC2 wan't released, anyone know if this schedule is updated or is in time? Thanks and Regards, --- Julian Bolivar ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
which cputype for Althon 64 X2 Dual Core
I'm building a new server with 7.0 BETA4 (it will track stable) with the following CPU CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+ (2600.02-MHz K8- class CPU) Origin = AuthenticAMD Id = 0x60fb1 Stepping = 1 Features = 0x178bfbff FPU ,VME ,DE ,PSE ,TSC ,MSR ,PAE ,MCE ,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT Features2=0x2001SSE3,CX16 AMD Features=0xea500800SYSCALL,NX,MMX+,FFXSR,RDTSCP,LM,3DNow!+, 3DNow! AMD Features2=0x11fLAHF,CMP,SVM,ExtAPIC,CR8,Prefetch Cores per package: 2 What optimizations should I make in make.conf? The example make.conf says AMD64 architecture: opteron, athlon64, nocona, prescott, core2 But I don't know whether althon64 or core2 would be the safest and most appropriate. Also GENERIC for amd64 lists cpuHAMMER is that the best (only) choice? And if not, where can I find a list of alternatives? I didn't find anything in the NOTES files telling me what was available. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberghttp://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which cputype for Althon 64 X2 Dual Core
On Dec 21, 2007, at 4:33 PM, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: I'm building a new server with 7.0 BETA4 (it will track stable) with the following CPU CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+ (2600.02-MHz K8- class CPU) [ ... ] What optimizations should I make in make.conf? A reasonable starting point is no special optimizations, and simply disable debug options like WITNESS, INVARIANTS, etc. If you plan to go beyond that, you'll need to start by doing some benchmarks before and after setting something like the CPU architecture that the compiler should tune for, and see whether you actually get any significant differences. The example make.conf says AMD64 architecture: opteron, athlon64, nocona, prescott, core2 But I don't know whether althon64 or core2 would be the safest and most appropriate. Also GENERIC for amd64 lists cpuHAMMER is that the best (only) choice? Yes, as far as AMD64 code goes. You could always switch down to running in 32-bit mode, though. -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TCP window scaling 14
I have a FreeBSD host which I noticed recently triggering some snort decoder alerts due to using a TCP window scaling (rfc1323) value of 15. The decoder is tripping because anything greater than 14 is considered invalid. This text from RFC seems to support it: Since the max window is 2**S (where S is the scaling shift count) times at most 2**16 - 1 (the maximum unscaled window), the maximum window is guaranteed to be 2*30 if S = 14. Thus, the shift count must be limited to 14 (which allows windows of 2**30 = 1 Gbyte). If a Window Scale option is received with a shift.cnt value exceeding 14, the TCP should log the error but use 14 instead of the specified value. http://www.networksorcery.com/enp/protocol/tcp/option003.htm suggests the option should only be set on a SYN packet. Packet data: 11:41:18.424938 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 46, id 58935, offset 0, flags [none], proto: TCP (6), length: 60) 137.160.241.90.34223 165.195.64.61.1: FP, cksum 0x0900 (correct), 1645233436:1645233436(0) win 65535 urg 0 wscale 15,nop,mss 265,timestamp 4294967295 0,sackOK 0x: 4500 003c e637 2e06 4589 89a0 f15a E...7EZ 0x0010: a5c3 403d 85af 0001 6210 451c 86c4 20ed [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0x0020: a029 0900 0303 0f01 0204 0109 .).. 0x0030: 080a 0402 This packet was generated during a probe of a remote systems echo service using nc(1). It may have come when the ctrl+c was issued. net.inet.tcp.rfc1323 is enabled. The following are sysctl changes in effect on the system: kern.ipc.shmmax=67108864 kern.ipc.shmall=32768 vfs.usermount=1 net.inet.tcp.sendspace=65536 net.inet.tcp.recvspace=65536 kern.ipc.nmbclusters=32768 So, is it indeed wrong for FreeBSD to set a window scale value of 15 or on a non-SYN? Any problems to take care of? DS Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 6.3-PRERELEASE #0: Fri Nov 30 16:05:54 MST 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5345 @ 2.33GHz (2327.51-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0x6f7 Stepping = 7 Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE Features2=0x4e3bdSSE3,RSVD2,MON,DS_CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,DCA AMD Features=0x2010NX,LM AMD Features2=0x1LAHF Cores per package: 4 real memory = 3219169280 (3070 MB) avail memory = 3144863744 (2999 MB) ACPI APIC Table: DELL B8K FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 8 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 2 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 3 cpu4 (AP): APIC ID: 4 cpu5 (AP): APIC ID: 5 cpu6 (AP): APIC ID: 6 cpu7 (AP): APIC ID: 7 ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 8 ioapic1: Changing APIC ID to 9 ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard ioapic1 Version 2.0 irqs 24-47 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 netsmb_dev: loaded ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) acpi0: DELL B8K on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter ACPI-safe frequency 3579545 Hz quality 850 acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 acpi_hpet0: High Precision Event Timer iomem 0xfed0-0xfed003ff on acpi0 Timecounter HPET frequency 14318180 Hz quality 900 cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0 cpu1: ACPI CPU on acpi0 cpu2: ACPI CPU on acpi0 cpu3: ACPI CPU on acpi0 cpu4: ACPI CPU on acpi0 cpu5: ACPI CPU on acpi0 cpu6: ACPI CPU on acpi0 cpu7: ACPI CPU on acpi0 acpi_button0: Power Button on acpi0 pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0 pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 2.0 on pci0 pci1: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1 pcib2: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1 pci2: ACPI PCI bus on pcib2 pcib3: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2 pci3: ACPI PCI bus on pcib3 pcib4: PCI-PCI bridge irq 16 at device 1.0 on pci2 pci4: PCI bus on pcib4 pcib5: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 0.3 on pci1 pci5: ACPI PCI bus on pcib5 fwohci0: Lucent FW322/323 mem 0xdceff000-0xdcef irq 26 at device 5.0 on pci5 fwohci0: OHCI version 1.0 (ROM=1) fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 8. fwohci0: EUI64 00:00:d1:00:80:35:7a:57 fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 3 ports. fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. firewire0: IEEE1394(FireWire) bus on fwohci0 fwe0: Ethernet over FireWire on firewire0 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:00:d1:35:7a:57 fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:00:d1:35:7a:57 fwe0: if_start running deferred for Giant sbp0: SBP-2/SCSI over FireWire on firewire0 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset fwohci0: BUS reset fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode firewire0: 1 nodes,
snd_hda on amd64 - exec format error
This is not a priority, but I'm suprised that both the downloaded (ariff?) and the built-from-source snd*.ko files give me a: kldload: can't load snd_hda: Exec format error When I try to load them...guess my kernel is out of date with the latest 6.2-stable source? Best, Steve 6.2 - amd64 aire# dmesg Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan 12 08:32:24 UTC 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 440 @ 2.00GHz (1995.01-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0x10661 Stepping = 1 Features=0xafebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,TM,PBE Features2=0xe31dSSE3,RSVD2,MON,DS_CPL,TM2,b9,CX16,b14,b15 AMD Features=0x20100800SYSCALL,NX,LM AMD Features2=0x1LAHF real memory = 1064173568 (1014 MB) avail memory = 1015042048 (968 MB) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which cputype for Althon 64 X2 Dual Core
First of all, thank you very much for your response. I have some follow up questions below. On Dec 21, 2007, at 6:45 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Dec 21, 2007, at 4:33 PM, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: What optimizations should I make in make.conf? A reasonable starting point is no special optimizations, and simply disable debug options like WITNESS, INVARIANTS, etc. I didn't see mention of these in the example make.conf so I don't know how to disable those if they are enabled in the first place. If you plan to go beyond that, you'll need to start by doing some benchmarks [...] I'm after the low hanging fruit and I don't really have the inclination to do such extensive tuning. I was just wondering if there is anything obvious. The example make.conf says AMD64 architecture: opteron, athlon64, nocona, prescott, core2 But I don't know whether althon64 or core2 would be the safest and most appropriate. Also GENERIC for amd64 lists cpuHAMMER is that the best (only) choice? Yes, as far as AMD64 code goes. You could always switch down to running in 32-bit mode, though. That answer the question for the kernel configuration. But what should I put in make.conf as cputype? Right now, I've just left it unspecified. I started a make buildworld and was surprised to see that it is using -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe even though I didn't tell it to do so. -O2 sounds like an odd default when it appears to be recommended against. Where should I look for the defaults? Cheers, -j ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Redirecting STDOUT
Hello, jhall. On 21 ??? 2007 ?., 20:34:52 you wrote: jvn When I run this as a non-root user it works fine. But, when running it as jvn root, it does not produce the expected results. jvn $ ls -l /fjdkslafjdl 2/home/hallja/test2 jvn And, in the file test2, I see jvn ls: /fjdkslafjdl: No such file or directory jvn Running the same command as root, I receive the following results. jvn # ls -l /fjdkslafjdl 2/home/hallja/test2 jvn ls: /fjdkslafjdl: No such file or directory jvn And, in /home/hallja/test2 I see the following. jvn -rw-r--r-- 1 root hallja 0 Dec 21 08:02 2 jvn Why does this not work as root? Because default shell for root is csh. Try this # command file this will redirect both STDERR and STDOUT to file -- Best regards, Michael mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
