recover data from damaged msdos fat32 partition
I know i can mount fat32 partition using mount_msdos command. But my msdos fat32 partition is a bad disk with corrupted fat table. Question is can i use freebsd to recover data from this msdos fAT32 disk What tools do you suggest to use? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Snow in my Server
Gary Hartl wrote: Help, I'm in southern Ontario and I have 20cm of snow on my freebsd 7-release server. Are you kidding? IT seems to be causeing some http outages. My FBSD 6-.0 doesn't seem to be affected thou. Any suggestions, Move it here? -- Regards, Anthony M. Rasat Manager - Technical, Network and Support Division PT. Jawa Pos National Network Graha Pena Jawa Pos Group Building, 5th floor Jln. Raya Kebayoran Lama 12, Jakarta Selatan 12210 Indonesia.- Phone 02132185562 Phone 081574217035 Fax 02153651465 Web http://www.jpnn.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: recover data from damaged msdos fat32 partition
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 04:16:38PM +0800, Fbsd1 wrote: I know i can mount fat32 partition using mount_msdos command. But my msdos fat32 partition is a bad disk with corrupted fat table. Question is can i use freebsd to recover data from this msdos fAT32 disk What tools do you suggest to use? I believe it's a job for fsck_msdosfs(8) -- Best regards, Jeff () X-mas ribbon campaign /\ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why no dvd isos?
hi, if you really need dvd iso you can follow the instructions here http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/bsd-guru/creating-your-own-freebsd-70-dvd-22791 -- Octavian Quoting Alan Batie a...@batie.org: m...@sentex.net wrote: There are DVD versions available ftp://ftp.freebsd.org//pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/7.1/7.1-RC1-i386-dvd1.iso.gz That's the only version that seems to, but thanks! It looks like they're coming... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Backing Up ZFS
I'm just curious at what others are currently doing to back up huge amounts of data. eg. 2TB and onwards. I'm using rdiff-backup and some scripting to backup ZFS snapshots. Other than the use of the ZFS snapshots there's nothing special about it. If your use case is suitable for rdiff-backup, using it with ZFS is a nice combination. For 2 TB+ I do suspect you would want to divide that up into multiple distinct rdiff-backup sets and indeed dependening on situation you may still have a problem with performance. In general I don't know that there is a lot ZFS specific to know about backups other than the availability of snapshots, and other than the potential to use zfs send/receive. Personally I am reluctant to use ZFS send/receive at this stage, because it is too dependent on ZFS. I would love to use it for maintaining a hot standby machine, or having an almost-realtime backup in the best case senario. But I would probably want a generic non-ZFS specific backup as my primary backup as well. One risk that you want to target with ZFS is that of a bug in ZFS itself; such bugs could conceivably be such that it affects your zfs send/receive backup. You mention: 3. ZFS - Remote ZFS using RSync (Living in Australia, there are limits on data transfer of a few hundred GB per month, to costs are prohibitive) rdiff-backup will be good in this senario too, giving you a rolling window of history in addition to an up-to-date mirror. It does do incremental updates including applying the rsync algorithm on individual files. It is definitely slower, in terms of CPU usage, than rsync however so if you have massive amounts of small files you may feel there is an issue. That said, I'm using it regularly to backup millions of files (e.g. collections of Maildir mailboxes). I mention rdiff-backup but of course there are plenty of others. I just happen to prefer rdiff-backup, mostly because of it's rsync mirror + history semantics and completely trivial setup. -- / Peter Schuller PGP userID: 0xE9758B7D or 'Peter Schuller peter.schul...@infidyne.com' Key retrieval: Send an E-Mail to getpgp...@scode.org E-Mail: peter.schul...@infidyne.com Web: http://www.scode.org pgp3geOfKDD0f.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Snow in my Server
Help, I'm in southern Ontario and I have 20cm of snow on my freebsd 7-release server. IT seems to be causeing some http outages. Great, natural and energy saving form of water cooling! Just disconnect all the fans and overclock to your hearts content! -Reko ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: linux_base question
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:03:45 -0800 Chris wrote: I just updated ports and have the following shown linux_base-f7 linux_base-f8 I'd use this one if you cat't use linux_base-fc4. AFAIC this port has a fixed libc which works better with linuxulator. Please read /usr/ports/UPDATING for more information about non-default linux base ports (linux_base-6,7,8). You can't use FreeBSD-6.x though. linux_base-fc4 linux_base-fc6 (and several Gentoo) WBR -- bsam ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: linux_base question
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 22:43:22 +1000 Da Rock wrote: If this is the case, what is the difference between the ports? Well, just what they are: ports for Fedora Core 6, Fedora 7 and Fedora 8. Do the libraries change? Sure, some libraries changes did occure. At least minor versions were. A more detailed information you may discover the differencies looking at makefiles and pkg-plist files. Supporting software? Hw, compat.linux.osrelease should be set to 2.6.16. Can freebsd effectively emulate any kernel version? No, the default is 2.4.2 and a planned one (not default and not fully supported, but in a good shape so far) is 2.6.16. WBR -- bsam ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: general question about setting up gateway
Richard Yang skrev: hi, i am trying to use freebsd as my home network gateway to the internet. any good reference i should know besides what's in the handbook? thanks rich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1857 - Release Date: 2008-12-19 10:09 Hello Richard, The first step is really easy - assuming you have a FreeBSD with two nics in it - edit /etc/rc.conf and comment out the line that starts with 'defaultrouter=' and then add a line saying 'gateway_enable=YES. The second step is a bit more complicated - you will have to decide on a firewall and a NAT mechanism. Depending on your choice here you will have to do various things to implement it. The handbook is a good start when chosing firewall - http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/firewalls.html . There are alot of other additional information spread out on the (w)internet - here's a couple: ipfilter http://freebsd.peon.net/tutorials/21/ ipfilter and pf resources http://www.obfuscation.org/ipf/ pf http://web.irtnog.org/howtos-orig/freebsd-firewall I hope this will help you get started. Greetings /Roger ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Snow in my Server
Gary Hartl wrote: Help, I'm in southern Ontario and I have 20cm of snow on my freebsd 7-release server. IT seems to be causeing some http outages. My FBSD 6-.0 doesn't seem to be affected thou. Any suggestions, First, make sure Your ports tree is up to date: # csup -h cvsup.xx.freebsd.org /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile Check the snow version: # pkg_version -v|grep snow Maybe your snow needs upgrade: # portupgrade snow See what software is using snow: # portversion -rv snow If you do not snow any more, just: # pkg_delete snow ;) Greetings! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
mount DVD - invalid argument
I have two DVD drives on my machine. m...@~: grep acd /var/run/dmesg.boot acd0: DVDR PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D/1.19 at ata1-master UDMA66 acd1: DMA limited to UDMA33, device found non-ATA66 cable acd1: DVDROM ASUS DVD-E616A2/1.03 at ata1-slave UDMA33 the optical section of my fstab is like this: /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 /dev/acd1 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 however, when I try and mount a DVD, I get the following: m...@~: sudo mount_cd9660 -s 0 /dev/acd0 /cdrom mount_cd9660: /dev/acd0: Invalid argument I have been able to mount CDs. If I'm missing something really obvious, any help would be appreciated. ta Max ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
geom lvm class - glvm
Hi, I found this entry on the official website : http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/r...0-2007-12.html http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2007-10-2007-12.html But I didn't find any other information about the geom lvm class or glvm. How can i activate it in the kernel ? Is here any tools about it ? Thank ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mount DVD - invalid argument
m...@~: grep acd /var/run/dmesg.boot acd0: DVDR PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D/1.19 at ata1-master UDMA66 acd1: DMA limited to UDMA33, device found non-ATA66 cable acd1: DVDROM ASUS DVD-E616A2/1.03 at ata1-slave UDMA33 the optical section of my fstab is like this: /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 /dev/acd1 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 isn't it better just to have /dev/acd0 /dvdr cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 /dev/acd1 /dvd cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 to avoid all the mess? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Snow in my Server
On Saturday 20 December 2008 08:02:53 Ott Köstner wrote: Gary Hartl wrote: Help, I'm in southern Ontario and I have 20cm of snow on my freebsd 7-release server. IT seems to be causeing some http outages. My FBSD 6-.0 doesn't seem to be affected thou. Any suggestions, First, make sure Your ports tree is up to date: # csup -h cvsup.xx.freebsd.org /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile Check the snow version: # pkg_version -v|grep snow Maybe your snow needs upgrade: # portupgrade snow See what software is using snow: # portversion -rv snow If you do not snow any more, just: # pkg_delete snow ;) Greetings! And don't forget to upgrade the nvidia driver !! Merry Xmas Everybody ! -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio YET!!] (99,7% winedows FREE) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
[6.3/Asterisk + Zaptel] Unloading module for upgrade?
Hello Since the Ports collection showed that there were more recent versions of Asterisk and Zaptel, I tried to compile/install Zaptel, but it fails, even after stopping Zaptel cleanly, and even after stopping Asterisk itself: = # kldstat Id Refs AddressSize Name 1 14 0xc040 7a05b0 kernel 35 0xc2caa000 32000zaptel.ko 41 0xc2ce 7000 qozap.ko 51 0xc2ce7000 2tau32pci.ko 61 0xc2d09000 5000 wcfxo.ko 71 0xc2d0e000 a000 wcfxs.ko 91 0xc2d26000 c000 wct4xxp.ko = # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/zaptel stop zaptelkldunload: can't find file wcte12xp.ko: No such file or directory kldunload: can't find file wcte11xp.ko: No such file or directory kldunload: can't find file wct1xxp.ko: No such file or directory kldunload: can't find file wctdm24xxp.ko: No such file or directory kldunload: can't find file wctdm.ko: No such file or directory kldunload: can't unload file: Device busy = # kldunload zaptel kldunload: can't unload file: Device busy = # kldunload qozap # kldunload wcfxo # kldunload wcfxs # kldunload wct4xxp # kldunload zaptel kldunload: can't unload file: Device busy = # kldunload -f zaptel kldunload: can't unload file: Device busy = Dec 20 14:21:39 freebsd kernel: kldunload: attempt to unload file that was loaded by the kernel = What is the right way to upgrade Zaptel, without rebooting the host? Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [6.3/Asterisk + Zaptel] Unloading module for upgrade?
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 14:25:28 +0100, Gilles gilles.gana...@free.fr wrote: Since the Ports collection showed that there were more recent versions of Asterisk and Zaptel, I tried to compile/install Zaptel, but it fails, even after stopping Zaptel cleanly, and even after stopping Asterisk itself: After rebooting, I lose the SSH connection when typing ztcf -vv, and I see the following error message in /var/log/messages: Dec 20 14:37:21 freebsd kernel: Zapata Telephony Interface Registered on major 196 Dec 20 14:37:21 freebsd kernel: Zaptel Version: zaptel-bsd-ng v0.0.1 Dec 20 14:37:21 freebsd kernel: Zaptel Echo Canceller: MG2 Dec 20 14:37:21 freebsd kernel: wctdm0 port 0xb400-0xb4ff mem 0xf500-0xf5000fff irq 9 at device 11.0 on pci2 Dec 20 14:37:21 freebsd kernel: wctdm0: [FAST] Dec 20 14:37:21 freebsd kernel: Freshmaker version: 71 Dec 20 14:37:21 freebsd kernel: Freshmaker passed register test Dec 20 14:37:21 freebsd kernel: Module 0: Installed -- AUTO FXO (FCC mode) Dec 20 14:37:21 freebsd kernel: Module 1: Not installed Dec 20 14:37:21 freebsd kernel: Module 2: Not installed Dec 20 14:37:21 freebsd kernel: Module 3: Not installed Dec 20 14:37:21 freebsd kernel: Found a Wildcard TDM: Wildcard TDM400P REV E/F (1 modules) Dec 20 14:37:21 freebsd kernel: link_elf: symbol te11xp_init undefined Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
mount_msdosfs -o large?
Hi, I have a 250gb usb hard disk formatted fat32. With just mount_msdosfs I get %mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1 mnt/usb mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0s1: Disk too big, try '-o large' mount option: Invalid argument The large option does seem to work: %mount_msdosfs -o large /dev/da0s1 mnt/usb %mount ... /dev/da0s1 on /usr/home/chrisw/mnt/usb (msdosfs, local, nosuid, mounted by chrisw) % However I can't find anything about the large option in man pages for mount, mount_msdosfs or fstab. Would this be suitable text to go in the -o options section of mount_msdosfs(8)? large Mount a filesystem larger than 128gb WARNING: This uses at least 32 bytes of kernel memory (which is not reclaimed until the FS is unmounted) for each file on disk to map between the 32-bit inode numbers used by VFS and the 64-bit pseudo-inode numbers used internally by msdosfs. This is only safe to use in certain controlled situations (e.g. read-only FS with less than 1 million files). Since the mappings do not persist across unmounts (or reboots), these filesystems are not suitable for exporting through NFS, or any other application that requires fixed inode numbers. I got the warning out of /sys/fs/msdosfs/msdosfs_vfsops.c on my FreeBSD eco 7.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #1: Tue Dec 16 18:28:48 GMT 2008 r...@eco:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 box. Thanks Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Snow in my Server
prad wrote: i'm surprised that people actually still live in southern ontario. despite all the imaginative suggestions, this is obviously an issue that should be submitted through the form here: http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html you will note that beastie is using something like a shovel in the pic, so you can use this fact to strengthen your case. Ouch! Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Linking libraries for compat_linux
On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:46:03 -0800 Chris wrote: This question is may be better unswered at emulation@ ML. I've bumped into a library I can't resolve and I must have a disconnect in how the linux_compat works because I can't see how it could be solved. I have the following: * compat_linux enabled in the kernel, * /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base_fc7 * sysctl kern.fallback_elf_brand=3 * rpm2cpio to alter rpms * cpio to create the directories and place the files where they belong in /compat/linux. I have a program that now has all it's libraries resolved but one in preparation to attempt to run the Linux Quickbooks install on FreeBSD. The ldd output, prior to installing /usr/ports/devel/fam (a required shared library) looks like this. ldd ./opt/qbes7/util/qbmonitord ./opt/qbes7/util/qbmonitord: libfam.so.0 = not found libpthread.so.0 = /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x28072000) libstdc++.so.6 = /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0x28088000) libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x28171000) libgcc_s.so.1 = /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x28198000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x281a4000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x28054000) I install fam to get rid of the not found, perform the following link: ln /usr/local/lib/libfam.so.0 /compat/linux/lib/libfam.so.0 and then I get this: ldd ./opt/qbes7/util/qbmonitord ./opt/qbes7/util/qbmonitord: ./opt/qbes7/util/qbmonitord: error while loading shared libraries: / lib/libfam.so.0: ELF file OS ABI invalid ./opt/qbes7/util/qbmonitord: exit status 127 which kind of makes sense since this library is not a linux library. I'd read that I don't need to brandelf -t linux a library but I tried that anyway, realizing it was likely meaningless (or harmful). It didn't help of course. My next thought was to try and get a libfam.so.0 binary from a linux distro but stopped when it occurred to me that it would be illogical since fam uses kqueue on FreeBSD rather than something called imon. imon is not available for FreeBSD so a linux version shouldn't be able to function if it expects that. On FreeBSD, fam configures itself to not use imon. What is the appropriate course of action to get a linux flavor shared library for fam (or anything which runs into such conflicts) that will work on FreeBSD yet be recognized as suitable for linux under the compat mode? Try to create and use linux-fam port. WBR -- bsam ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
LPRng cannot open connection...
Trying to use LPRng printing spooler, it shows: $ lpq lpd Printer ip2200_usb...@localhost (dest localhost@/dev/ulpt0) Queue : no printable jobs in queue Printer 'localhost@/dev/ulpt0' cannot open connection -getconnection: cannot get address for '/dev/ulpt0' Does anyone know how to solve this? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: geom lvm class - glvm
Franck Royer wrote: Hi, I found this entry on the official website : http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/r...0-2007-12.html http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2007-10-2007-12.html But I didn't find any other information about the geom lvm class or glvm. How can i activate it in the kernel ? Is here any tools about it ? It's still here, it's just been renamed to geom_linux_lvm to avoid confusion with possible future native LVM. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: mount DVD - invalid argument
Le Sat, 20 Dec 2008 11:45:49 +, Max Russell thedoss...@googlemail.com a écrit : I have two DVD drives on my machine. m...@~: grep acd /var/run/dmesg.boot acd0: DVDR PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D/1.19 at ata1-master UDMA66 acd1: DMA limited to UDMA33, device found non-ATA66 cable acd1: DVDROM ASUS DVD-E616A2/1.03 at ata1-slave UDMA33 the optical section of my fstab is like this: /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 /dev/acd1 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 however, when I try and mount a DVD, I get the following: m...@~: sudo mount_cd9660 -s 0 /dev/acd0 /cdrom mount_cd9660: /dev/acd0: Invalid argument I have been able to mount CDs. If I'm missing something really obvious, any help would be appreciated. Some DVDs are in UDF format. Use mount_udf(8). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Video driver
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008, Alain BATARD wrote: I am M. Alain BATARD and i work in a formation center. For my Unix course i use Freebsd (V 7), we recently change our computers for laptops (Compaq 6820s) these computers are equipped with integrated video : ATI Mobility Radeon X1350, after looking for drivers to launch Xorg, i can only use the very poor video in VGA mode, is there any possibilities to find the good driver even by using xorgconfig or manually ? Try x11-drivers/ati and x11-drivers/radeonhd from ports. Robert Noland has been working hard at support for more and better Radeons, but those changes and the new xorg won't come out until sometime after 7.1 is released. The FreeBSD X11 mailing list will probably be more helpful for xorg problems: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-x11/ -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Network Stack Code Re-write (Possible motivations...?)
Greetings List. If I am sending to the wrong list, then please let me know what would have been a more appropriate choice. I am attempting to research what is meant when, I saw that Juniper had re-written the network stack from the base freebsd network stack, to what is used in JUNOS. What exactly is meant by this? What is included in the network stack, when mentioned that it was completely re-written? I am a budding computer scientist, and would like to know where to start investigating how this would be done, and why they felt that the defacto network-centric OS for decades needed to be rewritten? Was this simply so they could rename the portions that they wrote as their own, in a business-savvy decision making process, or was it necessary from a technical standpoint? Any input would be appreciated, and if this question is too broad, then please point me in the right direction to make further inquiries. Thanks Respectfully, -- Martes G Wigglesworth mar...@mgwigglesworth.com M.G. Wigglesworth,LLC ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: geom lvm class - glvm
Ivan Voras a écrit : Franck Royer wrote: Hi, I found this entry on the official website : http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/r...0-2007-12.html http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2007-10-2007-12.html But I didn't find any other information about the geom lvm class or glvm. How can i activate it in the kernel ? Is here any tools about it ? It's still here, it's just been renamed to geom_linux_lvm to avoid confusion with possible future native LVM. Thank you but what do you mean ? Because When I add option GEOM_LINUX_LVM in the kernel configuration, this option is refused. And when I try a kldload geom_linux_lvm the module is still not found. Franck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Network Stack Code Re-write (Possible motivations...?)
I am attempting to research what is meant when, I saw that Juniper had re-written the network stack from the base freebsd network stack, to what is used in JUNOS. What exactly is meant by this? What is included in the network stack, when mentioned that it was completely re-written? ask juniper what it means ;) anyway - in FreeBSD it's still original network stack not juniper one. I am a budding computer scientist, and would like to know where to start investigating how this would be done, and why they felt that the defacto network-centric OS for decades needed to be rewritten? because they wanted to ;) again - ask juniper about it. Probably because FreeBSD stack does not assume existence of any routing-dedicated hardware, while for sure in high end routers there are such things. maybe they do mixer software-hardware routing. anyway it seems strange i would rather use FreeBSD running computer as control plane for hardware router, that would fill routing tables in router's chips memory. Was this simply so they could rename the portions that they wrote as their own, in a business-savvy decision making process, or was it necessary from a technical standpoint? ones again - ask juniper! it's wrong place to ask why someone else wanted something else!!! FreeBSD is FREE, and - contrary to GNU communists licence, does not require to share any code derived from FreeBSD sources. There is nothing to prevent you to use FreeBSD code (except gnu parts) modified as you like, hidden or not as you like whereever you like. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mount_msdosfs -o large?
chrisw) % However I can't find anything about the large option in man pages for mount, mount_msdosfs or fstab. Would this be suitable text to go in the -o options section of mount_msdosfs(8)? large Mount a filesystem larger than 128gb WARNING: This uses at least 32 bytes of kernel memory (which is not reclaimed until the FS is unmounted) for each file on disk to map between the 32-bit inode numbers used by VFS and the 64-bit pseudo-inode numbers used internally by msdosfs. This is only safe to use in certain controlled situations (e.g. read-only FS with less than 1 million files). Since the mappings do not persist across unmounts (or reboots), these filesystems are not suitable for exporting through NFS, or any other application that requires fixed inode numbers. please do sent-pr with that. it is missing important part of manual. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [6.3/Asterisk + Zaptel] Unloading module for upgrade?
# kldunload -f zaptel kldunload: can't unload file: Device busy = Dec 20 14:21:39 freebsd kernel: kldunload: attempt to unload file that was loaded by the kernel = What is the right way to upgrade Zaptel, without rebooting the host? please stop asterisk first to be able to reload zaptel. you can't unload used module! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: geom lvm class - glvm
Apparently, the option is only available on freebsd-8.0. I will check If I can compile a Freebsd-8.0 kernel on a freebsd-7.0 just for getting the files from my lvm and then going back on a stable kernel. Franck Franck Royer a écrit : Ivan Voras a écrit : Franck Royer wrote: Hi, I found this entry on the official website : http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/r...0-2007-12.html http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2007-10-2007-12.html But I didn't find any other information about the geom lvm class or glvm. How can i activate it in the kernel ? Is here any tools about it ? It's still here, it's just been renamed to geom_linux_lvm to avoid confusion with possible future native LVM. Thank you but what do you mean ? Because When I add option GEOM_LINUX_LVM in the kernel configuration, this option is refused. And when I try a kldload geom_linux_lvm the module is still not found. Franck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: geom lvm class - glvm
2008/12/20 Franck Royer royer.fra...@gmail.com: Apparently, the option is only available on freebsd-8.0. /boot/kernel/geom_linux_lvm.ko is present in 7-STABLE. I will check If I can compile a Freebsd-8.0 kernel on a freebsd-7.0 just for getting the files from my lvm and then going back on a stable kernel. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mount_msdosfs -o large?
Wojciech Puchar wrote: chrisw) % However I can't find anything about the large option in man pages for mount, mount_msdosfs or fstab. Would this be suitable text to go in the -o options section of mount_msdosfs(8)? large Mount a filesystem larger than 128gb WARNING: This uses at least 32 bytes of kernel memory (which is not reclaimed until the FS is unmounted) for each file on disk to map between the 32-bit inode numbers used by VFS and the 64-bit pseudo-inode numbers used internally by msdosfs. This is only safe to use in certain controlled situations (e.g. read-only FS with less than 1 million files). Since the mappings do not persist across unmounts (or reboots), these filesystems are not suitable for exporting through NFS, or any other application that requires fixed inode numbers. please do sent-pr with that. it is missing important part of manual. done C ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Snow in my Server
Just try to remove old-stoned CGA video adapter. GH Help, I'm in southern Ontario and I have 20cm of snow on my freebsd GH 7-release server. GH GH IT seems to be causeing some http outages. GH GH My FBSD 6-.0 doesn't seem to be affected thou. GH GH GH Any suggestions, ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: recover data from damaged msdos fat32 partition
Jeff Laine wrote: On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 04:16:38PM +0800, Fbsd1 wrote: I know i can mount fat32 partition using mount_msdos command. But my msdos fat32 partition is a bad disk with corrupted fat table. Question is can i use freebsd to recover data from this msdos fAT32 disk What tools do you suggest to use? I believe it's a job for fsck_msdosfs(8) google foremost ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Network Stack Code Re-write (Possible motivations...?)
Thank you very much for the intuitive commentary. Sorry for making the inquiry so specific to Juniper, however, I could not think of another source that would be a good example. I fully understand how the inquiries appeared, however, thanks for answering what you could. The inquiry was meant to be more general, so I apologize for making it seem Juniper specific. However, the intuitive list member response strikes again. Thanks alot for you input. I, as you, can't really figure out why they felt, years ago, that they needed to re-invent the wheel. Please give anymore insight if you have it. On Sat, 2008-12-20 at 11:32 -0500, Wojciech Puchar wrote: I am attempting to research what is meant when, I saw that Juniper had re-written the network stack from the base freebsd network stack, to what is used in JUNOS. What exactly is meant by this? What is included in the network stack, when mentioned that it was completely re-written? ask juniper what it means ;) anyway - in FreeBSD it's still original network stack not juniper one. I am a budding computer scientist, and would like to know where to start investigating how this would be done, and why they felt that the defacto network-centric OS for decades needed to be rewritten? because they wanted to ;) again - ask juniper about it. Probably because FreeBSD stack does not assume existence of any routing-dedicated hardware, while for sure in high end routers there are such things. maybe they do mixer software-hardware routing. anyway it seems strange i would rather use FreeBSD running computer as control plane for hardware router, that would fill routing tables in router's chips memory. Was this simply so they could rename the portions that they wrote as their own, in a business-savvy decision making process, or was it necessary from a technical standpoint? ones again - ask juniper! it's wrong place to ask why someone else wanted something else!!! FreeBSD is FREE, and - contrary to GNU communists licence, does not require to share any code derived from FreeBSD sources. There is nothing to prevent you to use FreeBSD code (except gnu parts) modified as you like, hidden or not as you like whereever you like. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
portmanager looping on libtool on 6.2 - 6.3 upgrade
Hello All, I'm in the process of bringing a production web/mail server up to FreeBSD 7.0 from 6.2. After practicing the process on a non-production box set up in essentially the same manner, I discovered that the only major issue to look out for was the fact that I needed to hold back the upgrade of Python, since the CMS system running on the box will die if it doesn't have Python 2.4 specifically. So last night, I got the actual OS brought from 6.2 - 6.3, and then looked for a different method of port upgrading than I'd used on the development system, since even specifying ports to exclude via portmanager's -ip option didn't seem to work well when going from 6.3 - 7.0. I ran across some articles that told me that I could do ports one at a time, confirming upgrades of dependencies, with a command such as: portmanager editors/emacs -l -ui -f I was able to get some ports, such as bash, upgraded using this method. However, I've now reached a point where virtually everything I try to upgrade is now failing, because it's dependent on libtool, which is stuck in some sort of infinite upgrade loop. Attempting to upgrade it manually via the same command line as above (replacing editors/emacs with devel/libtool15), I end up with output like this: ok to update/rebuild /devel/libtool15 libtool-1.5.26 (yes/no/auto yes to all) [y/n/a] [y]? y [lots of trimmed-out building activity, followed by two more times asking me if it's OK to update/rebuild libtool] MGPMrUpdate 0.4.1_9 command: #1 of 14 cd /usr/ports/devel/libtool15 make -V OPTIONS reverting bsd.port.mk patch -=cd /usr/ports/Mk; patch -R /usr/local/share/portmanager/patch-bsd.port.mk-0.3.6; Hmm... Looks like a unified diff to me... The text leading up to this was: -- |--- /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk Tue Nov 8 01:02:51 2005 |+++ bsd.port.mkWed Nov 16 02:16:57 2005 -- Patching file bsd.port.mk using Plan A... Hunk #1 failed at 2049. 1 out of 1 hunks failed--saving rejects to bsd.port.mk.rej done rCreateInstalledDbVerifyContentsFile 0.4.1_9 error: @comment ORIGIN: not found in /var/db/pkg/bsdpan-MIME-tools-5.420/+CONTENTS bsdpan-MIME-tools-5.420 installation is corrupt! recomend running pkg_delete -f bsdpan-MIME-tools-5.420 then manually reinstalling this port Port Status Report forced mode 1 :libtool-1.5.26 /devel/libtool15 MISSING skipping libtool-1.5.26 /devel/libtool15 marked IGNORE reason: looping, 3rd attempt at make portmanager 0.4.1_9 INFO: finished with some ports not updated if --log was used see /var/log/portmanager.log I've tried simply going into /usr/ports/devel/libtool15 and running suod make install clean, and I end up with this output: === Installing for libtool-1.5.26 === Generating temporary packing list === Checking if devel/libtool15 already installed === libtool-1.5.26 is already installed You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. If you really wish to overwrite the old port of devel/libtool15 without deleting it first, set the variable FORCE_PKG_REGISTER in your environment or the make install command line. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/libtool15. I'm very nervous about deinstalling it and reinstalling, or doing a forced reinstall, because so much appears to be dependent on libtool, and the last thing I want to do is bork a busy production box so bad that I have to physically go to the data center and hit up the console to fix it (especially since I'm not sure I could get in there over the weekend, and I'm flying out of town for the holidays on Monday morning). Does anyone have any advice on how to get this fixed? The system appears to be fully functional in the meantime, so it's not a huge rush to get things upgraded, but obviously I'd rather progress sooner rather than later. Alex Kirk This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Linking libraries for compat_linux
On Dec 20, 2008, at 6:05 AM, Boris Samorodov wrote: On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:46:03 -0800 Chris wrote: This question is may be better unswered at emulation@ ML. Oops, I didn't ever notice that list as I've never needed Linux before. I hate to trouble development lists with an operational issue but this one is starting to look like an incompatibility that is beyond me. The Linux and FreeBSD versions of gamin both fail on inotify_init. Not having the source to the program I'm trying to run makes it very difficult to fix even though the functionality is there (perhaps even superior) on FreeBSD. I ended up using the linux libfam.so.0 from the gamin distribution for Fedora 9. Using it's server fails instantly, using the freebsd port version, the server doesn't fail until the Linux client library attempts to connect. Then it too gets inotify_init not implemented. The Fam list appears to be defunct and I've not yet tried the direct mail contact to the gamin development page. I'm assuming the answer would be that you use native FreeBSD libfam.so on FreeBSD and the linux version on Linux. I've no way to tell the Intuit daemon to do that because of the ABI error and I presume there is an underlying reason why a native library can't be used by a linux binary. I will try the other list if no one has run into a similar problem with other Linux apps. I may be kicking a dead horse but it seems others have talked about using FreeBSD in this manner and it makes it an interesting challenge. The time I'm investing in this is probably not any more time that it would take to configure and secure an openSUSE or Fedora system (having never bothered with them before). Plus it would mean not adding an additional server into my net just for a trivial SMB/file monitoring application. Thanks for the response. I've bumped into a library I can't resolve and I must have a disconnect in how the linux_compat works because I can't see how it could be solved. I have the following: * compat_linux enabled in the kernel, * /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base_fc7 * sysctl kern.fallback_elf_brand=3 * rpm2cpio to alter rpms * cpio to create the directories and place the files where they belong in /compat/linux. I have a program that now has all it's libraries resolved but one in preparation to attempt to run the Linux Quickbooks install on FreeBSD. The ldd output, prior to installing /usr/ports/devel/fam (a required shared library) looks like this. ldd ./opt/qbes7/util/qbmonitord ./opt/qbes7/util/qbmonitord: libfam.so.0 = not found libpthread.so.0 = /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x28072000) libstdc++.so.6 = /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0x28088000) libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x28171000) libgcc_s.so.1 = /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x28198000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x281a4000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x28054000) I install fam to get rid of the not found, perform the following link: ln /usr/local/lib/libfam.so.0 /compat/linux/lib/libfam.so.0 and then I get this: ldd ./opt/qbes7/util/qbmonitord ./opt/qbes7/util/qbmonitord: ./opt/qbes7/util/qbmonitord: error while loading shared libraries: / lib/libfam.so.0: ELF file OS ABI invalid ./opt/qbes7/util/qbmonitord: exit status 127 which kind of makes sense since this library is not a linux library. I'd read that I don't need to brandelf -t linux a library but I tried that anyway, realizing it was likely meaningless (or harmful). It didn't help of course. My next thought was to try and get a libfam.so.0 binary from a linux distro but stopped when it occurred to me that it would be illogical since fam uses kqueue on FreeBSD rather than something called imon. imon is not available for FreeBSD so a linux version shouldn't be able to function if it expects that. On FreeBSD, fam configures itself to not use imon. What is the appropriate course of action to get a linux flavor shared library for fam (or anything which runs into such conflicts) that will work on FreeBSD yet be recognized as suitable for linux under the compat mode? Try to create and use linux-fam port. I also tried this but it appears that gamin is a more recent implementation. It also provides the libfam.so.0. WBR -- bsam ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions- unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Network Stack Code Re-write (Possible motivations...?)
Martes G Wigglesworth mar...@mgwigglesworth.com writes: I am attempting to research what is meant when, I saw that Juniper had re-written the network stack from the base freebsd network stack, to what is used in JUNOS. What exactly is meant by this? What is included in the network stack, when mentioned that it was completely re-written? I am a budding computer scientist, and would like to know where to start investigating how this would be done, and why they felt that the defacto network-centric OS for decades needed to be rewritten? Was this simply so they could rename the portions that they wrote as their own, in a business-savvy decision making process, or was it necessary from a technical standpoint? I work for a different router manufacturer, so I have little knowledge of Juniper internals, but I have had to worry about interoperability issues, so I've worked with Juniper gear for testing. Also, my general knowledge of similar issues on other routers is very likely to apply to the tradeoffs that Juniper made in choosing and developing its stack software. I very much doubt that marketing issues were a significant issue. Off-the-shelf OS networking has always fallen short of supporting high-end (or even, um, medium-end) hardware routing platforms. There is reason to hope that this is changing, but it has always been the case so far. As someone else already mentioned in this thread, supporting hardware offload for forwarding is a major issue. Core routers (or even provider-edge routers) depend on most of the packet forwarding being done in proprietary hardware. Operating system IP stacks don't support this very well; all of the routers I've worked on used the kernel IP stack only for packets going to and from the kernel itself, and used a different stack for what I call transit packets -- those that are only being forwarded by the local system. Another issue is router virtualization. Although FreeBSD has made some recent progress in supporting multiple IP instances, none of this capability was available when Juniper was deciding to base its operating system on FreeBSD. It is also important to note that having a rewritten IP stack doesn't mean that a system isn't using the original IP stack as well. A number of routers I've seen do this; they have thoroughly custom IP code for doing routing, but the local OS kernel in the router still uses the native stack for its own communications. I apologize if this message isn't clear; I was avoiding any information specific to the systems I currently work on, and I may have fuzzed things out a bit too much. Be well. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: dump and soft-updates question
Gema niskazhu gemoc...@gmail.com writes: Hi! I-ve got a question about dump | restore on soft-updates managed slice. When we dump smth on soft updates slice where it actualy(mechanicaly) dump it? The output of the dump is controlled by a command-line switch (-f). In the absence of the switch, it defaults to $RMT, but that is rarely applicable any more. Soft updates do not affect this. Because I-ve forgot to turn of soft-updates off on my backup hdd and dump img on it =) That is not an issue. Dumping a live filesystem is, but having soft upates active on the filesystem does not make things significantly worse than they would have been anyway. After that i vas quet surprised because it ate 16 Gigs of / but du\df cant show anything about. Can you be more specific? Where were you dumping to? what is situated in this 16 Gigs. Is it possible that your dump went to /dev/rmt because you failed to supply an alternative destination? -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Network Stack Code Re-write (Possible motivations...?)
Thank you very much for the intuitive commentary. Sorry for making the inquiry so specific to Juniper, however, I could not think of another source that would be a good example. I fully understand how the inquiries appeared, however, thanks for answering what you could. can't you simply ask some juniper employee? anyway - from where did you got that info about network stack being rewritten? I, as you, can't really figure out why they felt, years ago, that they needed to re-invent the wheel. once again - first ask WHAT EXACTLY FreeBSD is doing in their router? a) just preparing tables for router chips? - then FreeBSD's network stack is OK b) actually performing part of routing activity cooperating with ASIC's? if so - rewriting/modifying network stack was needed for sure. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Network Stack Code Re-write (Possible motivations...?)
I very much doubt that marketing issues were a significant issue. Off-the-shelf OS networking has always fallen short of supporting it wasn't made for that. As someone else already mentioned in this thread, supporting hardware offload for forwarding is a major issue. Core routers (or even provider-edge routers) depend on most of the packet forwarding being done in proprietary hardware. Operating system IP stacks don't support this very well; all of the routers I've worked on used the kernel IP stack only for packets going to and from the kernel itself, and used a different stack for what I call transit packets -- those that are only being forwarded by the local system. as higher speed routers are hardware - why OS has to do ANY work on routing? it's just there to prepare routing tables in format required for routing ASIC's and put them there! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
porting problem....
Guys, thanks to an unnamed firm studio I've got a database of some nature that isn't supposed to be given away. It worked fine until version 5 or 6. I couldn't figure it out and quit using it favor of other free or [ick] web services--- the web stuff delayed me for up to minutes. My local copy was immediate and i could get on with my writing. I thought it might be that the offset into the database had changed. But now i don't think so. i just changed this ancient, pre 90's, def from off_t to long. same problem. Here is my printout from minutes ago. it's the same as when this failed several years ago. Why I'm using this as a database rather than some public is that the way my syllabic database program is written, it depends on THIS (copuright) database. // error output: /usr/local/src/ :cwfoobarwebster/src findWord(FILE *f =(05005707040), char *word = [look]) ./def can't find 'look' offt = (-1) whether out off_t or long/int, I'm still reaching FAR, FAR into the FILE *f quite far. I never dug into the code until a few years ago when it broke on recompile. it's ugly, ugly, *Ugly* code, probably hacked in a day. You wouldn't believe ... if anybody is out there who thinks he can help and has time, let's take this off-list. i don't want the CIA/NSAFBI/B*sh to have me extraordinarily renditioned.. -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.17a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Status of hyperthreading in FreeBSD
Netbooks based on Intel's Atom microprocessor are turning into big hits this Christmas season. The Atom, a super-low-power x86 processor, is an in-order machine, which means that except for a few special cases it can spend a lot of time waiting for data to arrive when it encounters a cache miss. So, hyperthreading may make sense on this kind of processor as compared to one with out-of-order execution. Which raises a question: What's the status of FreeBSD's support for hyperthreading? As far as I know, after it was revealed that some processes on a machine with hyperthreading could spy on others, and also that hyperthreading didn't always improve performance on high end processors, the feature was turned off by default. But on single-user machines, or on servers where the CPU was likely to be shared by two processes that were both privileged anyway, it might make sense to re-enable it. But has this feature of the scheduler been maintained well enough for this to be a good idea? If not, would it worth looking into updating it so that FreeBSD runs well on the Atom? --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Status of hyperthreading in FreeBSD
Brett Glass wrote: Netbooks based on Intel's Atom microprocessor are turning into big hits this Christmas season. The Atom, a super-low-power x86 processor, is an in-order machine, which means that except for a few special cases it can spend a lot of time waiting for data to arrive when it encounters a cache miss. So, hyperthreading may make sense on this kind of processor as compared to one with out-of-order execution. Which raises a question: What's the status of FreeBSD's support for hyperthreading? As far as I know, after it was revealed that some processes on a machine with hyperthreading could spy on others, and also that hyperthreading didn't always improve performance on high end processors, the feature was turned off by default. But on single-user machines, or on servers where the CPU was likely to be shared by two processes that were both privileged anyway, it might make sense to re-enable it. But has this feature of the scheduler been maintained well enough for this to be a good idea? If not, would it worth looking into updating it so that FreeBSD runs well on the Atom? --Brett Glass as far as i know, just enabling smp will allow ht to function. also, i don't know if intel changed ht in the new atom processor, they could have. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Network Stack Code Re-write (Possible motivations...?)
Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl writes: I very much doubt that marketing issues were a significant issue. Off-the-shelf OS networking has always fallen short of supporting it wasn't made for that. It can be. I've written portable IP stacks intended for exactly this purpose. The routing tables are generally set up in userspace regardless, so it's not a big problem to send the same data to multiple stacks where each stack is supporting a different application. As someone else already mentioned in this thread, supporting hardware offload for forwarding is a major issue. Core routers (or even provider-edge routers) depend on most of the packet forwarding being done in proprietary hardware. Operating system IP stacks don't support this very well; all of the routers I've worked on used the kernel IP stack only for packets going to and from the kernel itself, and used a different stack for what I call transit packets -- those that are only being forwarded by the local system. as higher speed routers are hardware - why OS has to do ANY work on routing? it's just there to prepare routing tables in format required for routing ASIC's and put them there! Mostly, yes. But the system still has to be network manageable. That requires that it send and receive packets. Doing so requires using the same routing information that the forwarding engines are using to forward packets in the same address space. The kernel *does* still need to know routes to any of its destinations. Another possible implementation is, as you say, to have the kernel send everything out the same way and not know anything about the forwarding tables. This does, as the original poster said, imply that you're throwing out the capabilities of a stack that you built into your system from the ground up. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Status of hyperthreading in FreeBSD
Netbooks based on Intel's Atom microprocessor are turning into big hits this Christmas season. The Atom, a super-low-power x86 processor, is an in-order machine, which means that except for a few special cases it can spend a lot of time waiting for data to arrive when it encounters a cache miss. So, hyperthreading may make sense on this kind of processor as compared to one with out-of-order execution. Which raises a question: What's the status of FreeBSD's support for hyperthreading? for FreeBSD it's just like 2 processors. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Network Stack Code Re-write (Possible motivations...?)
I very much doubt that marketing issues were a significant issue. Off-the-shelf OS networking has always fallen short of supporting it wasn't made for that. It can be. I've written portable IP stacks intended for exactly this Of course it can. i just write that FreeBSD network stack WASN'T MADE for that. not if it can or not. routing ASIC's and put them there! Mostly, yes. But the system still has to be network manageable. That requires that it send and receive packets. Doing so requires using the same routing information that the forwarding engines are using to forward packets in the same address space. The kernel *does* still need to know routes to any of its destinations. but kernel doesn't forward much packets. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Network Stack Code Re-write (Possible motivations...?)
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 13:35:35 -0500 Martes G Wigglesworth mar...@mgwigglesworth.com wrote: However, the intuitive list member response strikes again. Thanks alot for you input. I, as you, can't really figure out why they felt, years ago, that they needed to re-invent the wheel. Bear in mind that such companies may have a range of products, that range from something not unlike a pc with lots of interfaces up to something with multiple levels of embedded processors each running their own OSes. In the latter case you need a network stack that's largely OS independent, so it can spread itself across the (non-symmetric) processors. You may also need to be able to separate fast-path, slow-path and control path for high performance. Once you have done all that, you've left the native OS stacks unused, leaving them available for the user interface or in some cases communication between sub-systems. This separation is good on security grounds too, it's preferable not to have network management in-band. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Network Stack Code Re-write (Possible motivations...?)
A year, or two, ago, I found such information buried within the Juniper website; however, upon recent attempts at further investigation, both for learning about certifications, and subject matter for this topic, I am unable to locate said information. The historic Juniper blurbs were very informative. I am sure that the information is still available, however, I have not been successful in locating it. As for the suggested avenues of investigation, I have not had any coding or employment experience at that level of router development so I don't have the level of specific knowledge-base to make such an inquiry about said reference tables. I also do not have $10-$20K or more to purchase a Juniper router box, so there would not much real motivation to answer my inquiries if I were to be able to get into contact with a sales rep with enough knowledge of the system code to have information to give me. I am very much making an initial inquiry in attempting to get that level of experience, hence my inquiry to the list. I am simply trying to make my own inquiries about the general case, so as to gain knowledge of what routes to take to gain said coding/development experience via experimentation, etc... (Please excuse the pun.) Thanks for the input, though. On Sat, 2008-12-20 at 20:53 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: Thank you very much for the intuitive commentary. Sorry for making the inquiry so specific to Juniper, however, I could not think of another source that would be a good example. I fully understand how the inquiries appeared, however, thanks for answering what you could. can't you simply ask some juniper employee? anyway - from where did you got that info about network stack being rewritten? I, as you, can't really figure out why they felt, years ago, that they needed to re-invent the wheel. once again - first ask WHAT EXACTLY FreeBSD is doing in their router? a) just preparing tables for router chips? - then FreeBSD's network stack is OK b) actually performing part of routing activity cooperating with ASIC's? if so - rewriting/modifying network stack was needed for sure. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Network Stack Code Re-write (Possible motivations...?)
Thanks again for further information on this topic. Where can I find more information this as a research topic. I am talking about Academic/PHD-level information or industry-level information. (I mean that I am looking at this from a knowledge-base expansion point of view, so don't filter out possible academic avenues because that is where I am mostly coming from in the first place.) Is this the realm where I would have to be one of those six-figure-income embedded programmers to really get my teeth into the subject, or what??? It is OK, you can be honest, hehehe... Thanks again for all the informative comments, list... On Sat, 2008-12-20 at 22:20 +, RW wrote: On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 13:35:35 -0500 Martes G Wigglesworth mar...@mgwigglesworth.com wrote: However, the intuitive list member response strikes again. Thanks alot for you input. I, as you, can't really figure out why they felt, years ago, that they needed to re-invent the wheel. Bear in mind that such companies may have a range of products, that range from something not unlike a pc with lots of interfaces up to something with multiple levels of embedded processors each running their own OSes. In the latter case you need a network stack that's largely OS independent, so it can spread itself across the (non-symmetric) processors. You may also need to be able to separate fast-path, slow-path and control path for high performance. Once you have done all that, you've left the native OS stacks unused, leaving them available for the user interface or in some cases communication between sub-systems. This separation is good on security grounds too, it's preferable not to have network management in-band. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Network Stack Code Re-write (Possible motivations...?)
Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl writes: I very much doubt that marketing issues were a significant issue. Off-the-shelf OS networking has always fallen short of supporting it wasn't made for that. It can be. I've written portable IP stacks intended for exactly this Of course it can. i just write that FreeBSD network stack WASN'T MADE for that. not if it can or not. I had deliberately worked around this topic because FreeBSD's routing table implementation has made considerable strides in virtualization lately (for which, as far as I know, the credit is almost entirely due to Julian Elischer), and this will probably turn out to make it more useful for commercial routers. So far, however, these changes are irrelevant to the historical question of Juniper's use of FreeBSD code. routing ASIC's and put them there! Mostly, yes. But the system still has to be network manageable. That requires that it send and receive packets. Doing so requires using the same routing information that the forwarding engines are using to forward packets in the same address space. The kernel *does* still need to know routes to any of its destinations. but kernel doesn't forward much packets. It may not not forward any, but your statement that all it does with IP is put data into ASICs is still generally incorrect. It generally does *send* and *receive* packets, and as such it needs routing information. It is possible to use a FreeBSD kernel without the IP stack (and this has been done on particularly deeply embedded processors). However, commercial routers generally do not use their OS kernel this way -- it is far more common that the kernel does send and receive packets within its native IP stack. That forwarding data is usually coordinated with the entity managing the routing data, although sometimes the management is done completely out-of-band, in which case the kernel's forwarding data need not have any connection with the data driven into the forwarding hardware. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: handbook suggestion
First, let me say that I find FreeBSD to be the best of all the free Unices -- and it is due to the excellent and practical documentation. That said, there is an easy way to make FreeBSD easier for the home user. There are a number of suggestions/methods of doing things in the handbook that are appropriate for the business user that are not needed or useful for the home user. As an example, both the usb drive and scanner sections give instructions for allowing others besides root to mount/use the respective hardware. Both suggestions give advice that restrict the enabling to just one group. For home use it would be easier to just allow any user to mount/use hardware. A sidebar or some such giving alternatives for personal/home users would be nice. Thanks, --dr IMHO FreeBSD documentation lack a section in wich are described case studies and recommendations for particular problems. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: nessus report
--On December 19, 2008 11:32:51 PM -0600 Richard Yang kusanagiy...@gmail.com wrote: hi, when i ran nessus against my bsd box, nessus can detect the remote host is up. i don't understand how nessus can detect it... does anyone know how it is done? thanx There are several ways to detect if a host is up. Responses to icmp packets is one. Almost all hosts will respond to pings unless they're prevented by a firewall. Another way is the type of response to a probe of a port. Sometimes services will respond differently if they're firewalled than if they're not listening on a particular port. Also, very few computers have no ports at all listening. For example, most unix boxes will be running syslogd and listening on port udp/514. That is the default for that daemon. Unless you reconfigured syslogd to listen on localhost only, it will respond to probes. Sometimes a host will respond to a problem with RSETs. It's very, very hard to configure a box in such a way that it's impossible to detect that it's up and running. Run sockstat and look at what's listening on your computer. Then see if you can figure out how to get it to stop listening on those ports. Paul Schmehl (pa...@utdallas.edu) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/
Gigabyte Motherboard Bios Setup
Hello, I have a Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3P motherboard. I am having troubles installing and running FreeBSD. What are the preferred BIOS settings for this motherboard Thanks, Ivan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: geom lvm class - glvm
Ivan Voras a écrit : 2008/12/20 Franck Royer royer.fra...@gmail.com: Apparently, the option is only available on freebsd-8.0. /boot/kernel/geom_linux_lvm.ko is present in 7-STABLE. Sorry, but it's not the case on my freebsd. my uname -a : FreeBSD methrilla-test.home 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Fri Dec 12 21:54:37 GMT 2008 r...@methrilla-test.home:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ZFS i386 How did you do that ? I will check If I can compile a Freebsd-8.0 kernel on a freebsd-7.0 just for getting the files from my lvm and then going back on a stable kernel. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: geom lvm class - glvm
2008/12/21 Franck Royer royer.fra...@gmail.com: Ivan Voras a écrit : 2008/12/20 Franck Royer royer.fra...@gmail.com: Apparently, the option is only available on freebsd-8.0. /boot/kernel/geom_linux_lvm.ko is present in 7-STABLE. Sorry, but it's not the case on my freebsd. my uname -a : FreeBSD methrilla-test.home 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Fri Dec 12 21:54:37 GMT 2008 r...@methrilla-test.home:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ZFS i386 How did you do that ? Probably by using 7-STABLE, not 7.0-RELEASE :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
portaudit and periodic
I am using FreeBSD 7-RELEASE. I installed portaudit. The FreeBSD handbook stated that during the install process, the configuration files for periodic will be updated, permitting portaudit output in the daily security runs. portaudit was not run in my daily security runs. There is no mention of portaudit in /etc/periodic.conf or /etc/defaults/periodic.conf. I read /usr/local/etc/periodic/security/410.portaudit and found that it references 3 variables: daily_status_security_portaudit_enable daily_status_security_portaudit_expiry daily_status_security_portaudit_user I can't find those variables defined anywhere in any periodic.conf file. I understand I can just manually add daily_status_security_portaudit_enable=YES to my periodic.conf and be good to go. But I am wondering about the discrepancy with the Freebsd handbook. Is the FreeBSD handbook out of date or incorrect in this regard or is there another reason why portaudit didn't update the periodic config files? Thanks, Kareem Dana ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: geom lvm class - glvm
Ivan Voras a écrit : 2008/12/21 Franck Royer royer.fra...@gmail.com: Ivan Voras a écrit : 2008/12/20 Franck Royer royer.fra...@gmail.com: Apparently, the option is only available on freebsd-8.0. /boot/kernel/geom_linux_lvm.ko is present in 7-STABLE. Sorry, but it's not the case on my freebsd. my uname -a : FreeBSD methrilla-test.home 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Fri Dec 12 21:54:37 GMT 2008 r...@methrilla-test.home:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ZFS i386 How did you do that ? Probably by using 7-STABLE, not 7.0-RELEASE :) Good point, I didn't see the difference, I'm still a newbie in Freebsd :) Thank you ! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
The FreeBSD Diary: 2008-11-30 - 2008-12-20
The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists and/or The FreeBSD Diary http://www.freebsddiary.org/. These are the articles posted during this period: 2-Dec : Obscuring smtp auth headers If you consider your smtp-auth location to be private, this is what you want. http://freebsddiary.org/smtp-headers-rewrite-auth.php?2 -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Gigabyte Motherboard Bios Setup
On Dec 20, 2008, at 6:38 PM, Ivan Carey wrote: Hello, I have a Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3P motherboard. I am having troubles installing and running FreeBSD. What are the preferred BIOS settings for this motherboard Thanks, Ivan What type of troubles are you encountering? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portaudit and periodic
I believe I am incorrect. I checked further and it looks like $daily_status_security_portaudit_enable defaults to YES in the portaudit script so it should run fine. Everything seems to be working. I don't know why I thought it wasn't running before. Sorry for the trouble. Thanks. On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 5:42 PM, kareemy kare...@gmail.com wrote: I am using FreeBSD 7-RELEASE. I installed portaudit. The FreeBSD handbook stated that during the install process, the configuration files for periodic will be updated, permitting portaudit output in the daily security runs. portaudit was not run in my daily security runs. There is no mention of portaudit in /etc/periodic.conf or /etc/defaults/periodic.conf. I read /usr/local/etc/periodic/security/410.portaudit and found that it references 3 variables: daily_status_security_portaudit_enable daily_status_security_portaudit_expiry daily_status_security_portaudit_user I can't find those variables defined anywhere in any periodic.conf file. I understand I can just manually add daily_status_security_portaudit_enable=YES to my periodic.conf and be good to go. But I am wondering about the discrepancy with the Freebsd handbook. Is the FreeBSD handbook out of date or incorrect in this regard or is there another reason why portaudit didn't update the periodic config files? Thanks, Kareem Dana ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Network Stack Code Re-write (Possible motivations...?)
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 17:54:24 -0500 Lowell Gilbert freebsd-questions-lo...@be-well.ilk.org wrote: However, commercial routers generally do not use their OS kernel this way -- it is far more common that the kernel does send and receive packets within its native IP stack. If I'm understanding you right, I'm surprised by that (the native part). It make any proprietary software less portable. You're also tying your code into third-party internals, which sounds like a maintenance problem. I would have thought that the likes of Cisco and Alcatel etc would would have reusable codebases that abstract the OS and minimize OS dependencies. What's the advantage, don't routers usually lead OS's in terms of new protocol support? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
[6.3] Missing portdowngrade?
Hello I need to downgrade a software from the Ports collection because it's buggy on my hardware, but the portdowngrade utility doesn't seem to exist in the 6.3 Ports: = # cd /usr/ports/sysutils/portdowngrade -bash: cd: /usr/ports/sysutils/portdowngrade: No such file or directory = Does it mean this utility isn't available for 6.3? Is there an alternative? Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Sed question
how can i delete, say, lines 8,9,and 10 from 200 files using sed? Is it sed '8,10d' file newfile or is there a better way? tia, gary -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.17a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sed question
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 21:34:10 -0800, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: how can i delete, say, lines 8,9,and 10 from 200 files using sed? Is it sed '8,10d' file newfile or is there a better way? Use in-place editing: keram...@kobe:/tmp$ cat -n foo 1 foo 2 bar 3 baz keram...@kobe:/tmp$ sed -i '' -e '2d' foo keram...@kobe:/tmp$ cat -n foo 1 foo 2 baz keram...@kobe:/tmp$ Look at the manpage of sed for more details about the -i option, and consider using backup files while you are running tests. In-place editing is very cool, but it can also make changes that are difficult to recover from. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [6.3] Missing portdowngrade?
Gilles wrote: Hello I need to downgrade a software from the Ports collection because it's buggy on my hardware, but the portdowngrade utility doesn't seem to exist in the 6.3 Ports: = # cd /usr/ports/sysutils/portdowngrade -bash: cd: /usr/ports/sysutils/portdowngrade: No such file or directory = Does it mean this utility isn't available for 6.3? Is there an alternative? Thank you. Try looking in /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portdowngrade instead. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [6.3] Missing portdowngrade?
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 00:43:49 -0500, Michael Powell nightre...@verizon.net wrote: Try looking in /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portdowngrade instead. Thanks Mike, that did it. I successfully downgraded Zaptel and Asterisk to stable versions of the Ports collection. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sed question
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 21:34:10 -0800 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: or is there a better way? nothing specific to add for your particular issue, but this link may be useful in the future for sed: http://sed.sourceforge.net/grabbag/tutorials/ -- In friendship, prad ... with you on your journey Towards Freedom http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website) Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sed question
Gary Kline wrote: how can i delete, say, lines 8,9,and 10 from 200 files using sed? Is it sed '8,10d' file newfile or is there a better way? I'd stick it in a for loop using inplace editing, but yes. :-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
[solved] Re: usb-stick accessible, but doesn't boot
On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 22:29:15 +0100 clemens fischer wrote: My USB-stick (trekstore, identifies as USB DISK SMI Corporation) is sliced using sade(8), labelled using bsdlabel, accessible using mount /dev/da0s1a /mnt/usb, it has kernel and world, but doesn't boot. The problem had nothing to do with kernel features or setup, except for etc/fstab. I had a what I thought quicksimple md for /var: md /var mfs rw,-s100M,noatime 0 0, but this doesn't account for all the preset stuff in /var needed to run a system. The current version looks like: # /etc/fstab # /dev/ad6s2b noneswap sw 0 0 /dev/da0s1a / ufs rw,noatime 1 1 /dev/da0s1g /home ufs rw,noatime,noexec 0 0 /dev/da0s1f /usrufs rw,noatime 0 0 md /tmpmfs rw,-s24M,noatime 0 0 md /var/runmfs rw,-s4M,noatime 0 0 md /var/logmfs rw,-s32M,noatime 0 0 # proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 Of course the directory structure had been setup with make DESTDIR=/mnt/usb/ufs distrib-dirs distribution. -c ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org