Re: A question for developers

2009-08-11 Thread Mel Flynn
On Tuesday 11 August 2009 16:46:16 Steve Bertrand wrote:
> Steve Bertrand wrote:
> > but may be handy until I become more fluent,
> > as my first instinct is to hit the BACKSPACE
>
> ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H
>
> ^h key.

terminal emulation fault. stty erase  should fix it, on the 
shell that is.
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Re: A question for developers

2009-08-11 Thread Steve Bertrand
Steve Bertrand wrote:
> but may be handy until I become more fluent,
> as my first instinct is to hit the BACKSPACE

^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H

^h key.

Steve


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Re: A question for developers

2009-08-11 Thread Steve Bertrand
Steve Bertrand wrote:

> I'm looking for a new editor.

Well, after a two week hiatus from technology, I'm back at work
(actually, considering I build a large new deck, being back at work is
more of a holiday than being on holidays :)

Although it was recommended that I give both Emacs and Vi(m) a try to
see which one I prefer, I'm forgoing that, and just sticking with Vim as
I can just sense that it suits me.

I don't know if this is a Vi or FreeBSD question, so I'll ask here first.

In the vim tutor, it is quoted:

" NOTE: The letter  d  will appear on the last line of the screen as you
type it.  Vim is waiting for you to type  w . If you see another
character than  d  you typed something wrong; pressand start
over. "

...however, my terminal emulators (Putty, Poderosa) never display
anything at the bottom of the screen when I type a command that requires
additional input.

Am I reading this wrong, or could my emulator be chopping off some of my
display (using commands followed by ":" always appear).

Having the "d" displayed is largely irrelevant as I can always sense
when I've mistyped a char, but may be handy until I become more fluent,
as my first instinct is to hit the BACKSPACE key.

Is "d" supposed to show up prior to sending it another command?

Thanks again for the great feedback and references!

Steve


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Re: making FBSD 7.2 X work on a CQ-60 laptop

2009-08-11 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:44:02 -0400, Henry Olyer  wrote:
> I have been having a lot of trouble getting X running on my HP/Compaq
> laptop.  A lot of trouble.
> 
> For years I used to use xf86cfg and/or xf86config, but now, with FreeBSD 7.2
> I can't find them.  (Don't tell me that such useful tools were -- ugh --
> depreciated.  No, please no.)

They are. X introduced new means to achieve the same, mainly through
autodetection. The command

# X -configure

should provide a xorg.conf.new file with the relevant settings. Have
a look at what /var/log/Xorg.0.log says in case of errors.

Keep in mind that the new X server now has a different behaviour when
it works. They old-fashioned greyish pattern has been abandoned in
favour of a modern solid black background. :-)



> And worse, the keyboard has lot's of really nice key's on it, to dim the
> screen and such like that.  Which right now 7.2 ignores.

I always thought these keys were software-independent. But who wonders
about "modern" laptops where even the socket for headphones requires
a driver that manages to switch off the speakers when a headphone is
plugged in...



> So for $400 I think I got a good deal. 

If it works. If it doesn't, it was a bad deal. :-)





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Re: making FBSD 7.2 X work on a CQ-60 laptop

2009-08-11 Thread Gregory T Helton
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:44:02 -0400
Henry Olyer  wrote:

> I have been having a lot of trouble getting X running on my HP/Compaq
> laptop.  A lot of trouble.
> 
> For years I used to use xf86cfg and/or xf86config, but now, with
> FreeBSD 7.2 I can't find them.  (Don't tell me that such useful tools
> were -- ugh -- depreciated.  No, please no.)
> 
> And worse, the keyboard has lot's of really nice key's on it, to dim
> the screen and such like that.  Which right now 7.2 ignores.
> 
> It's a CQ-60, a Walmart special and I purchased it because it had 3GB
> of RAM with a big screen (about 15.5", I think.)  And I went down to
> my local computer store and purchased a 500GB SATA drive for $100.
> 
> So for $400 I think I got a good deal.  (The machine is on sale now
> at WM stores for less than $300.  With tax it was $312.)
> 
> Now though I have to make it work with FreeBSD 7.2.  with X.  I need
> help. Does anyone have one running FBSD 7.2 already?
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Going to need some more info. :)

Do you know what kind of graphics chip is in there? Have you tried the
automagic xorg configuration?
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html

`pciconf -lv` output would help also.

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making FBSD 7.2 X work on a CQ-60 laptop

2009-08-11 Thread Henry Olyer
I have been having a lot of trouble getting X running on my HP/Compaq
laptop.  A lot of trouble.

For years I used to use xf86cfg and/or xf86config, but now, with FreeBSD 7.2
I can't find them.  (Don't tell me that such useful tools were -- ugh --
depreciated.  No, please no.)

And worse, the keyboard has lot's of really nice key's on it, to dim the
screen and such like that.  Which right now 7.2 ignores.

It's a CQ-60, a Walmart special and I purchased it because it had 3GB of RAM
with a big screen (about 15.5", I think.)  And I went down to my local
computer store and purchased a 500GB SATA drive for $100.

So for $400 I think I got a good deal.  (The machine is on sale now at WM
stores for less than $300.  With tax it was $312.)

Now though I have to make it work with FreeBSD 7.2.  with X.  I need help.
 Does anyone have one running FBSD 7.2 already?
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Re: location of user crontab files?

2009-08-11 Thread Karl Vogel
>> On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:50:54 -0400, 
>> Identry  said:

I> Where are user crontab files stored in the file system?  I want to make
I> sure this info is backed up.

   They're in /var/cron/tabs.  If you're using individual crontab files,
   be sure to rename /etc/crontab or you might have duplicated cronjobs
   running simultaneously.

   I use the file header beneath my signature for crontab files, so I
   don't forget what field goes where.  It's also handy to define an
   environment variable in case a program should behave differently when
   run under cron.

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# 
# Everything on a line is separated by blanks or tabs.
# Set CRON so scripts know when they're being run non-interactively.
CRON=yes
SHELL=/bin/sh
PATH=/etc:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin
# 
#+--- Minute (0-59)
#|   +--- Hour   (0-23)
#|   | +- Day(1-31)
#|   | |   +- Month  (1-12)
#|   | |   |   +- Day of week (0-6, 0=Sunday)
#|   | |   |   |+ Command to be run
#|   | |   |   ||
#v   v v   v   vv
# 
# Jobs queued for later execution
*/5  * *   *   */usr/libexec/atrun
# 
# Do daily/weekly/monthly maintenance
13 *   *   *periodic daily
10   22*   *   *periodic evening
15   4 *   *   6periodic weekly
30   5 1   *   *periodic monthly
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Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: > upgrade 7.2

2009-08-11 Thread Karl Vogel
>> On Sun, 9 Aug 2009 07:52:31 -0600, 
>> Chad Perrin  said:

C> An info page is almost as bad as nothing, as far as I'm concerned.

   Yup.  However, the GNU folks do provide something for the rest of us;
   help2man accepts a GNU program name, runs it with the --help and
   --version arguments, and writes a pretty good manpage.

 me% wget http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/help2man/help2man-1.36.4.tar.gz
 me% tar xzfv help2man-1.36.4.tar.gz
 me% cd help2man-1.36.4
 me% ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --mandir=/usr/local/man
 root# make install
 me% make distclean

   If you have GNU tar installed:

 root# help2man /usr/local/bin/gtar > /usr/local/man/man1/gtar.1
 
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Re: Error code 254

2009-08-11 Thread Mel Flynn
On Tuesday 11 August 2009 12:56:40 Per olof Ljungmark wrote:
> Mel Flynn wrote:
> > On Tuesday 11 August 2009 12:20:00 Per olof Ljungmark wrote:
> >> Mel Flynn wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday 11 August 2009 10:53:21 Per olof Ljungmark wrote:
>  Mel Flynn wrote:
> > On Tuesday 11 August 2009 09:27:06 Mel Flynn wrote:
> >> On Tuesday 11 August 2009 08:53:59 Per olof Ljungmark wrote:
> >>> Mel Flynn wrote:
>  On Tuesday 11 August 2009 02:48:49 Per olof Ljungmark wrote:
> > ===> Installing documentation in
> > /usr/local/share/doc/pear/XML_Serializer. ===> Installing tests
> > in /usr/local/share/pear/tests/XML_Serializer. ===> Installing
> > examples in /usr/local/share/examples/pear/XML_Serializer. ***
> > Error code 254
>
> Hmmm, when I try
> portupgrade -fO pear
> the error pops up here too.
>
> Should I suspect the package database then?
>
> ===>  Installing for pear-1.8.1
> ===>   pear-1.8.1 depends on file: /usr/local/include/php/main/php.h -
> found ===>   pear-1.8.1 depends on file:
> /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/pcre.so - found
> ===>   pear-1.8.1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/xml.so -
> found
> ===>   Generating temporary packing list
> *** Error code 254

Is it really at that point? Could you try a make -dl install again? If it's 
the package list generation for real, then I'm gonna suspect something on a 
system level, like IO errors or read-only mounts.

If it is the same thing with pear install command, then perhaps you should 
pkg_delete -r pear-1.8.1 (careful, will uninstall anything depending on pear) 
and start over to see if the error persists. The pear command sure can use 
some more verbosity then.
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Re: Error code 254

2009-08-11 Thread Per olof Ljungmark

Mel Flynn wrote:

On Tuesday 11 August 2009 12:20:00 Per olof Ljungmark wrote:

Mel Flynn wrote:

On Tuesday 11 August 2009 10:53:21 Per olof Ljungmark wrote:

Mel Flynn wrote:

On Tuesday 11 August 2009 09:27:06 Mel Flynn wrote:

On Tuesday 11 August 2009 08:53:59 Per olof Ljungmark wrote:

Mel Flynn wrote:

On Tuesday 11 August 2009 02:48:49 Per olof Ljungmark wrote:

===> Installing documentation in
/usr/local/share/doc/pear/XML_Serializer. ===> Installing tests in
/usr/local/share/pear/tests/XML_Serializer. ===> Installing
examples in /usr/local/share/examples/pear/XML_Serializer. ***
Error code 254


Hmmm, when I try
portupgrade -fO pear
the error pops up here too.

Should I suspect the package database then?

===>  Installing for pear-1.8.1
===>   pear-1.8.1 depends on file: /usr/local/include/php/main/php.h - found
===>   pear-1.8.1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/pcre.so - 
found
===>   pear-1.8.1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/xml.so - 
found

===>   Generating temporary packing list
*** Error code 254

Stop in /usr/ports/devel/pear.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/devel/pear.
** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa 
/tmp/portupgrade20090811-2005-huzahd-0 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade 
UPGRADE_PORT=pear-1.8.1 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=1.8.1 make -DFORCE_PKG_REGISTER 
reinstall

--->  Restoring the old version
** Fix the installation problem and try again.
[Updating the pkgdb  in /var/db/pkg ... - 261 packages 
found (-0 +1) . done]

** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed)
! devel/pear (pear-1.8.1)   (install error)

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Re: graphics/ImageMagick seemingly not using OpenMP

2009-08-11 Thread Scott Bennett
 On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:38:52 -0500 Kirk Strauser 
wrote:
>On Aug 11, 2009, at 6:54 AM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:18:43AM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote:
>>> On my FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE system (from July 29), I'm trying to enable
>>> OpenMP for the graphics/ImageMagick port.  With the  
>>> IMAGEMAGICK_OPENMP
>>> option set, I get this from "make configure":
>>>
>>> checking for cc -std=gnu99 option to support OpenMP... (cached)  
>>> unsupported
>>> checking for cc -std=gnu99 option to support OpenMP... -fopenmp
>>>
>>> If I go on to build it, there's no other mention of OpenMP in the
>>> output.  What am I doing wrong?
>
>> I think the second like shows that OMP is indeed supported.
>> Have you tested on any OMP test?
>
>But the rest of the build doesn't give any indication. Specifically,  
>the "-fopenmp" flag isn't used anywhere.  I've tested that OMP works -  
>or at least compiles - but I don't know of any way to find if a given  
>binary was actually compiled with it.

 Have you tried nm(1)?  Unless the symbols were removed via strip(1),
nm(1) should be able to extract an external symbol dictionary from the
ImageMagick binary.  You can then search through that for OpenMP symbols.


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Re: Error code 254

2009-08-11 Thread Mel Flynn
On Tuesday 11 August 2009 12:20:00 Per olof Ljungmark wrote:
> Mel Flynn wrote:
> > On Tuesday 11 August 2009 10:53:21 Per olof Ljungmark wrote:
> >> Mel Flynn wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday 11 August 2009 09:27:06 Mel Flynn wrote:
>  On Tuesday 11 August 2009 08:53:59 Per olof Ljungmark wrote:
> > Mel Flynn wrote:
> >> On Tuesday 11 August 2009 02:48:49 Per olof Ljungmark wrote:
> >>> ===> Installing documentation in
> >>> /usr/local/share/doc/pear/XML_Serializer. ===> Installing tests in
> >>> /usr/local/share/pear/tests/XML_Serializer. ===> Installing
> >>> examples in /usr/local/share/examples/pear/XML_Serializer. ***
> >>> Error code 254
> >>>
> >>> ...
> >>>
>  In the meantime, I'll try to reproduce it.
> >>>
> >>> Which I can't. Patch below adds -v at the correct spot.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately that did not add much, the error looks exacktly as before,
> >> no change. I welcome more suggestions of course.
> >>
> >> (7.2-STABLE FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #0: Mon Aug 10 23:50:08 CEST 2009)
> >
> > Well, it's hard if I can't reproduce it. Can you show the output of:
> > make -C /usr/ports/devel/pear-XML_Serializer actual-package-depends
>
> I tried to locate the docs for pear, in particular the switches, but
> failed. Even at pear.php.net/manual I could not find them, are they
> installed on my system somewhere?

pear help
pear help options
pear help commands

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Re: Error code 254

2009-08-11 Thread Per olof Ljungmark

Mel Flynn wrote:

On Tuesday 11 August 2009 10:53:21 Per olof Ljungmark wrote:

Mel Flynn wrote:

On Tuesday 11 August 2009 09:27:06 Mel Flynn wrote:

On Tuesday 11 August 2009 08:53:59 Per olof Ljungmark wrote:

Mel Flynn wrote:

On Tuesday 11 August 2009 02:48:49 Per olof Ljungmark wrote:

===> Installing documentation in
/usr/local/share/doc/pear/XML_Serializer. ===> Installing tests in
/usr/local/share/pear/tests/XML_Serializer. ===> Installing examples
in /usr/local/share/examples/pear/XML_Serializer. *** Error code 254

...


In the meantime, I'll try to reproduce it.

Which I can't. Patch below adds -v at the correct spot.

Unfortunately that did not add much, the error looks exacktly as before,
no change. I welcome more suggestions of course.

(7.2-STABLE FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #0: Mon Aug 10 23:50:08 CEST 2009)


Well, it's hard if I can't reproduce it. Can you show the output of:
make -C /usr/ports/devel/pear-XML_Serializer actual-package-depends


I tried to locate the docs for pear, in particular the switches, but 
failed. Even at pear.php.net/manual I could not find them, are they 
installed on my system somewhere?


Thanks!

# make -C /usr/ports/devel/pear-XML_Serializer actual-package-depends
pear-XML_Parser-1.3.2:devel/pear-XML_Parser
pear-XML_Util-1.2.1:devel/pear-XML_Util
pear-1.8.1:devel/pear
expat-2.0.1:textproc/expat2
openldap-client-2.4.17:net/openldap24-client
perl-5.8.9_3:lang/perl5.8
pkg-config-0.23_1:devel/pkg-config
pcre-7.9:devel/pcre
libiconv-1.13.1:converters/libiconv
libxml2-2.7.3:textproc/libxml2
apache-2.2.11_7:www/apache22
php5-5.2.10:lang/php5
php5-xml-5.2.10:textproc/php5-xml
pear-1.8.1:devel/pear
expat-2.0.1:textproc/expat2
openldap-client-2.4.17:net/openldap24-client
perl-5.8.9_3:lang/perl5.8
pkg-config-0.23_1:devel/pkg-config
pcre-7.9:devel/pcre
libiconv-1.13.1:converters/libiconv
libxml2-2.7.3:textproc/libxml2
apache-2.2.11_7:www/apache22
php5-5.2.10:lang/php5
php5-xml-5.2.10:textproc/php5-xml
pear-1.8.1:devel/pear
expat-2.0.1:textproc/expat2
openldap-client-2.4.17:net/openldap24-client
perl-5.8.9_3:lang/perl5.8
pkg-config-0.23_1:devel/pkg-config
pcre-7.9:devel/pcre
libiconv-1.13.1:converters/libiconv
libxml2-2.7.3:textproc/libxml2
apache-2.2.11_7:www/apache22
php5-5.2.10:lang/php5
php5-xml-5.2.10:textproc/php5-xml
php5-pcre-5.2.10:devel/php5-pcre

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Racoon VPN

2009-08-11 Thread get acoder
Hi there,

I am refering to your very detailed doc

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ipsec.html

I am exactly looking for the same features and setup, my only issue is that
I cant find racoon as you are describing here:

/usr/local/etc/racoon/racoon.conf

I installed ipsec tools, compiled my kernel for IPSec only to find out that
racoon2 is only available

Any idea how where I ca find racoon v1

regards and tx
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Re: Error code 254

2009-08-11 Thread Mel Flynn
On Tuesday 11 August 2009 10:53:21 Per olof Ljungmark wrote:
> Mel Flynn wrote:
> > On Tuesday 11 August 2009 09:27:06 Mel Flynn wrote:
> >> On Tuesday 11 August 2009 08:53:59 Per olof Ljungmark wrote:
> >>> Mel Flynn wrote:
>  On Tuesday 11 August 2009 02:48:49 Per olof Ljungmark wrote:
> > ===> Installing documentation in
> > /usr/local/share/doc/pear/XML_Serializer. ===> Installing tests in
> > /usr/local/share/pear/tests/XML_Serializer. ===> Installing examples
> > in /usr/local/share/examples/pear/XML_Serializer. *** Error code 254
> >
> > ...
> >
> >> In the meantime, I'll try to reproduce it.
> >
> > Which I can't. Patch below adds -v at the correct spot.
>
> Unfortunately that did not add much, the error looks exacktly as before,
> no change. I welcome more suggestions of course.
>
> (7.2-STABLE FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #0: Mon Aug 10 23:50:08 CEST 2009)

Well, it's hard if I can't reproduce it. Can you show the output of:
make -C /usr/ports/devel/pear-XML_Serializer actual-package-depends
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Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-11 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 08:19:24PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:

> On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:31:52 -0400, PJ  wrote:
> > Sorry for my ignorance, but what language is that? :-)  What's "dd with
> > a bs=1m"?
> 
> That's English + UNIX, at least it should be. :-)
> 
> I could have written "dd with a bs of 1m", which does simply mean that
> the program dd should be called with the parameter bs=1m, representing
> a blocksize of 1 MB. The command would then be:
> 
>   # dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/ad1 bs=1m
> 
> given the suggestion that ad0 is the source disk, ad1 the target disk.
> It's worth mentioning that the MBR - if intact - should be copied with
> this command (afterwards I think):
> 
>   # dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/ad1 bs=512 count=1
> 
> Smart dd users will suggest omiting bs=512 because that's the default
> value. :-)
> 
> Finally, commands can be used as verbs, such as "you then dd the ad0
> onto ad1" or "can you grep that in /etc/something"? :-)

Nice response, but don't forget to have the OP read the man page --
egman dd

jerry


> 
> 
> > I'm being ultra careful and checking/regenerating the target disk and
> > that will t ake another 4 or 5 hours.
> 
> That's the usual amount of time. I think you said approx. 100 GB disks?
> It may work faster if you don't run the transfer in master / slave mode
> (same cable), but in master / master mode (each drive on own cable);
> this affects (P)ATA only, as far as I know.
> 
> 
> 
> > I don't expect any difficulties,
> > but would like to "triple check" the procedure...
> > 
> > Ok - boot up livefs, slice & partition the target disk; but how do I
> > continue? Do I go to the shell?
> 
> Yes. You can either use the shell of FreeBSD's live system, or use
> FreeSBIE, it has sysinstall on it, too, as far as I remember. But
> nobody stops you from not using sysinstall, but bsdlabel and newfs
> instead.
> 
> Keep an eye on newfs options, especially if you want to enable soft
> updates or with to init the disks with a certain optimization, or
> a non-default inode ratio.
> 
> 
> 
> > If that is all it is, then I don't see
> > much difficulty. I'll read the man pages to check all the commands below
> > so I am clear on everything.
> 
> That's a good idea. I copied the command line examples from a procedure
> I once wrote for how to "clone" OS disks.
> 
> 
> 
> > If it is, do I need it or what do I do with it? It is obviously(?) saved
> > somewhere like /tmp ...
> 
> The kernel image is saved in /var/crash directory. It can be used for
> examination, in order to find out what caused the crash. Usually, the
> kernel debugger is employed to do this. If you don't care any further,
> you can safely delete the core files.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Error code 254

2009-08-11 Thread Per olof Ljungmark

Mel Flynn wrote:

On Tuesday 11 August 2009 09:27:06 Mel Flynn wrote:

On Tuesday 11 August 2009 08:53:59 Per olof Ljungmark wrote:

Mel Flynn wrote:

On Tuesday 11 August 2009 02:48:49 Per olof Ljungmark wrote:

===> Installing documentation in
/usr/local/share/doc/pear/XML_Serializer. ===> Installing tests in
/usr/local/share/pear/tests/XML_Serializer. ===> Installing examples
in /usr/local/share/examples/pear/XML_Serializer. *** Error code 254

...


In the meantime, I'll try to reproduce it.


Which I can't. Patch below adds -v at the correct spot.


Unfortunately that did not add much, the error looks exacktly as before, 
no change. I welcome more suggestions of course.


(7.2-STABLE FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #0: Mon Aug 10 23:50:08 CEST 2009)
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Re: Backup Size

2009-08-11 Thread Jay Hall


On Aug 11, 2009, at 12:09 PM, Roland Smith wrote:


Just execute the tar command, and dump the output to /dev/null  
through dd:

tar -cf - /etc |dd of=/dev/null
tar: Removing leading '/' from member names
3160+0 records in
3160+0 records out
1617920 bytes transferred in 0.057690 secs (28045115 bytes/sec)

This will give you the exact size without writing anything to disk.


Thanks.  I had not thought of that.


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Re: toaster or do-it-myself?

2009-08-11 Thread Gregory T Helton
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 01:37:50AM -0400, Identry wrote:
> Frack... qmail is impossible. I've been hacking at this for 14 hours
> and it's just not working. I must be stupid.
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If you're willing to look away from Qmail, I used the following guide
as a basis when I moved my postfix mail server from Debian to FreeBSD.
Postfix supports Maildir, and that's how the guide sets it up.

I had some prior experience with postfix, having spent about 10-12
hours figuring it out from the official docs the first time I did it on
Debian... but the guide will have you a working setup in <4 hours even
without any prior experience. I think I had my FreeBSD mail server
working in under 2.

http://www.purplehat.org/?page_id=4

If you don't need all the stuff it lists, then only the
mysql+postfix+dovecot will give you a working server. Postfixadmin may
be needed aswell but I used a different SQL schema for my application
so I'm not sure.

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Re: toaster or do-it-myself?

2009-08-11 Thread Al Plant

Tim Judd wrote:

On 8/10/09, Identry  wrote:

Frack... qmail is impossible. I've been hacking at this for 14 hours
and it's just not working. I must be stupid.



If you're open to suggestions, there are two typical camps on this.
first one being a majority.  I've done both, and don't know which one
to favor


1) A mix-n match bag of software daemons that make it all work:
postfix MTA, dovecot POP3/IMAP, your choice of virtual user database,
squirrelmail (or another webmail) product.  That gives basic
functions.  Add anti-spam (spamassassin is common), and anti-virus
(clamav).

2) Install Courier suite, in which the same developers have a MTA,
POP3/IMAP, webmail suite.  Add Anti-Spam and Anti-Virus and your kit
is complete.


For the first time, I was able to install an email subsystem that
eliminates all spam without an anti-spam software app.  Based on the
blacklists for known spammers, and a blacklist for accidental
spammers, we're curbing most if not all other spam mails from being
accepted by the MTA.  The first blacklist are blocked by the firewall,
second blacklist is checked at each incoming connection and the MTA
will send notice to the remote connection (in the event it's a real
person sending mail from a spamming host), on how to clear themselves.

There isn't any AV suite to speak of, but if we're killing all
susceptable spams, the viruses are from the same bunch so we're
killing two birds with one stone.


Soon, I'll revisit Courier and see if my same mail setup is able to
accomplish the same goal, and I know the first blacklist will happen,
it's the 2nd I'm not so sure about.



Getting a toaster-application is nice, speedy setup.  but you work
with it's limitations or drawbacks.  Building your own gives more
flexibility, and depending on setup, it'll be no more than a
toaster-application -- or a whole lot more.


Ask us questions, there's lots of posts online.
For a quick setup, i always
- Install FreeBSD
- Run freebsd-update fetch install && reboot
- Install binary packages, and update them using your choice port
upgrade utility, if any

That's the quickest way to get a server live and operational...
because a non-modified port options = same binary that's offered as a
package.


Identry, send me a mail offlist if you want clarification on this post.

Good luck.
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Aloha,

After trying qmail and a couple other email systems I like Tim installed 
 The postfix dovecot combo from FreeBSD ports.


I have had it working on two separate servers for about 4 years I think. 
Recently I had to rebuild a server due to a hardware failure and was 
pleased to see that the maintainers had set the defaults to what I 
happen to use so all it took was checking the settings against my old 
install and up she went on the new machine.


I second the #1 choice Tim made. Works for me here.


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Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-11 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:31:52 -0400, PJ  wrote:
> Sorry for my ignorance, but what language is that? :-)  What's "dd with
> a bs=1m"?

That's English + UNIX, at least it should be. :-)

I could have written "dd with a bs of 1m", which does simply mean that
the program dd should be called with the parameter bs=1m, representing
a blocksize of 1 MB. The command would then be:

# dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/ad1 bs=1m

given the suggestion that ad0 is the source disk, ad1 the target disk.
It's worth mentioning that the MBR - if intact - should be copied with
this command (afterwards I think):

# dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/ad1 bs=512 count=1

Smart dd users will suggest omiting bs=512 because that's the default
value. :-)

Finally, commands can be used as verbs, such as "you then dd the ad0
onto ad1" or "can you grep that in /etc/something"? :-)



> I'm being ultra careful and checking/regenerating the target disk and
> that will t ake another 4 or 5 hours.

That's the usual amount of time. I think you said approx. 100 GB disks?
It may work faster if you don't run the transfer in master / slave mode
(same cable), but in master / master mode (each drive on own cable);
this affects (P)ATA only, as far as I know.



> I don't expect any difficulties,
> but would like to "triple check" the procedure...
> 
> Ok - boot up livefs, slice & partition the target disk; but how do I
> continue? Do I go to the shell?

Yes. You can either use the shell of FreeBSD's live system, or use
FreeSBIE, it has sysinstall on it, too, as far as I remember. But
nobody stops you from not using sysinstall, but bsdlabel and newfs
instead.

Keep an eye on newfs options, especially if you want to enable soft
updates or with to init the disks with a certain optimization, or
a non-default inode ratio.



> If that is all it is, then I don't see
> much difficulty. I'll read the man pages to check all the commands below
> so I am clear on everything.

That's a good idea. I copied the command line examples from a procedure
I once wrote for how to "clone" OS disks.



> If it is, do I need it or what do I do with it? It is obviously(?) saved
> somewhere like /tmp ...

The kernel image is saved in /var/crash directory. It can be used for
examination, in order to find out what caused the crash. Usually, the
kernel debugger is employed to do this. If you don't care any further,
you can safely delete the core files.




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Re: Error code 254

2009-08-11 Thread Mel Flynn
On Tuesday 11 August 2009 09:27:06 Mel Flynn wrote:
> On Tuesday 11 August 2009 08:53:59 Per olof Ljungmark wrote:
> > Mel Flynn wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 11 August 2009 02:48:49 Per olof Ljungmark wrote:
> > >> ===> Installing documentation in
> > >> /usr/local/share/doc/pear/XML_Serializer. ===> Installing tests in
> > >> /usr/local/share/pear/tests/XML_Serializer. ===> Installing examples
> > >> in /usr/local/share/examples/pear/XML_Serializer. *** Error code 254
...

> In the meantime, I'll try to reproduce it.

Which I can't. Patch below adds -v at the correct spot.
-- 
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Index: devel/pear/pear-install
===
RCS file: /home/ncvs/ports/devel/pear/pear-install,v
retrieving revision 1.1
diff -u -r1.1 pear-install
--- devel/pear/pear-install 9 Dec 2005 18:58:03 -   1.1
+++ devel/pear/pear-install 11 Aug 2009 17:42:03 -
@@ -10,5 +10,5 @@

 [ "x$1" = "x" ] && exit 1
 if [ "x$2" = "xPOST-INSTALL" ]; then
-   ${PEAR} install -r -n -f ${PKGREGDIR}/package.xml
+   ${PEAR} -v install -r -n -f ${PKGREGDIR}/package.xml
 fi

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Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-11 Thread PJ
Polytropon wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:34:13 -0400, PJ  wrote:
>   
>> I've got another disk about the same size on the machine and I'm
>> wonderiing how could I transfer the whole shebang to it?
>> 
>
> Maybe an 1:1 copy using dd with a bs=1m would work.
>   
Sorry for my ignorance, but what language is that? :-)  What's "dd with
a bs=1m"?
>
>
>   
>> Would doing a minimum 7.2 install be enough, followed by copying all the
>> slices to the corresponding slices on the new disk?
>> I'm thinking of mounting the broken drive on the new one and then
>> copying... does that sound about right?
>> 
>
> No. Does not. :-)
>
> The proper way of doing this - or at least ONE of the proper ways -
> is to use the intended tools for this task. These are dump and
> restore.
>
> First of all, you use a FreeBSD live system (such as FreeSBIE) or
> the livefs CD of the FreeBSD OS to run the OS. The goal is: Most
> minimal interaction with the drives.
>
> Let's assume ad0 is your source disk and ad1 the target disk.
>
> You can use the sysinstall tool to slice and partition the target
> disk. You can create the same layout as on the source disk.
I'm being ultra careful and checking/regenerating the target disk and
that will t ake another 4 or 5 hours. I don't expect any difficulties,
but would like to "triple check" the procedure...

Ok - boot up livefs, slice & partition the target disk; but how do I
continue? Do I go to the shell? If that is all it is, then I don't see
much difficulty. I'll read the man pages to check all the commands below
so I am clear on everything.
>  Of
> course, using tools like bsdlabel and newfs is valid, too. If
> you're done, things go like this:
>
> 1. Check the source.
>
>   # fsck /dev/ad0s1a /dev/ad0s1e /dev/ad0s1f /dev/ad0s1g /dev/ad0s1h
>
>Add -f (and dangerous -y) if intended.
>
>
>
> 2. You don't mount the source disk. Instead, you first prepare
>the target disk which you mount. Then you use dump and restore
>to transfer the data from the unmounted source partition to
>the mounted target partition.
>
> # mount /dev/ad1s1a /mnt
> # cd /mnt
> # dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1a | restore -r -f -
>
>Keep an eye on where you mount it. Maybe the live system you
>use already employs /mnt for its own purposes. Create /target
>instead, or anything else you like.
>
>
>
> 3. After transferting /, continue with /tmp /var /usr and /home.
>
> # mount /dev/ad1s1a /mnt
> # cd /mnt
> # dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1a | restore -r -f -
>
> # mount /dev/ad1s1e /mnt/tmp
> # cd /mnt/tmp
> # dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1e | restore -r -f -
>
> # mount /dev/ad1s1f /mnt/var
> # cd /mnt/var
> # dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1f | restore -r -f -
>
> # mount /dev/ad1s1g /mnt/usr
> # cd /mnt/usr
> # dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1g | restore -r -f -
>
> # mount /dev/ad1s1h /mnt/home
> # cd /mnt/home
> # dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1h | restore -r -f -
>
>Of course, triplepluscheck the commands before running them!
>
>
>
> 4. Unmount the target disks.
>
> # cd /
> # umount /mnt/home
> # umount /mnt/usr
> # umount /mnt/var
> # umount /mnt/tmp
> # umount /mnt
> # sync
> # halt
>
>Replace the disks and start using your target.
>
>
>
>   
>> I haven't looked at the broken one yet; I'll have to see what theat
>> 177mg dump was..
>> 
>
> Kernel image?
>   
If it is, do I need it or what do I do with it? It is obviously(?) saved
somewhere like /tmp ...

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Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser

2009-08-11 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 08:15:15AM -0400, Robert Huff wrote:
> Chad Perrin wrote:
> 
> >>Firefox has not had Ctrl-Q for some time. Try Alt-F followed by Q. I 
> >>guess that's 2.5 keystrokes, but at least it's keystrokes.
> >
> >What version number would you call "some time" ago?  I just used Ctrl-Q
> >about six hours or so ago.
> 
>   The FreeBSD machine with Firefox is down but here on Windows, using 
>   a stock 3.0.13, Ctl-Q has no effect.  Nor is it listed as a shortcut 
> for 
> "Exit" under the [File] menu.  Have you perhaps customized yours?
>   Now doing Ctl-W on the last window will close the program, but I 
>   like to keep the two separate; this is one (C list) reason I usually 
> use 
> SeaMonkey.

I don't have any custom keyboard shortcuts set up.  It Just Works™.

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Re: Error code 254

2009-08-11 Thread Mel Flynn
On Tuesday 11 August 2009 08:53:59 Per olof Ljungmark wrote:
> Mel Flynn wrote:
> > On Tuesday 11 August 2009 02:48:49 Per olof Ljungmark wrote:
> >> ===> Installing documentation in
> >> /usr/local/share/doc/pear/XML_Serializer. ===> Installing tests in
> >> /usr/local/share/pear/tests/XML_Serializer. ===> Installing examples in
> >> /usr/local/share/examples/pear/XML_Serializer. *** Error code 254
> >>
> >>
> >> What is "Error code 254" ?
> >
> > A program returning -2 to the shell. Is that useful info? No.
> > Run make -dl install to see what goes wrong.
>
> is this useful?
>
> /bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/share/pear/packages/pear-XML_Serializer-0.20.0
> install  -o root -g wheel -m 444
> /usr/ports/devel/pear-XML_Serializer/work/package.xml
> /usr/local/share/pear/packages/pear-XML_Serializer-0.20.0
> /usr/bin/env PKG_PREFIX=/usr/local  /bin/sh
> /usr/ports/devel/pear/pear-install pear-XML_Serializer-0.20.0 POST-INSTALL
> *** Error code 254

Yes, the post install script fails. Which means the command:
/usr/local/bin/pear install -r -n -f \
/usr/local/share/pear/packages/pear-XML_Serializer-0.20.0/package.xml 

fails. Why, I don't know, perhaps you can add -v to the above command and see 
if anything useful is printed. In the meantime, I'll try to reproduce it.
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Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser

2009-08-11 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:42:00PM -0400, Chris Hill wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Aug 2009, Chad Perrin wrote:
> 
> >On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 08:27:34AM -0400, Chris Hill wrote:
> >>
> >>Firefox has not had Ctrl-Q for some time. Try Alt-F followed by Q. I guess
> >>that's 2.5 keystrokes, but at least it's keystrokes.
> >
> >What version number would you call "some time" ago?  I just used Ctrl-Q
> >about six hours or so ago.
> 
> I've used it too, but more like six years ago. I have not kept notes on 
> the version numbers, just one day noticed Ctrl-Q not working anymore after 
> an update. But I would guess it was sometime around the 1.x -> 2.x 
> transition.

Maybe it's a Windows version thing, because I haven't been using 2.x for
a while on FreeBSD, but I'm still using Ctrl-Q.

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Re: Backup Size

2009-08-11 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 09:24:19PM -0500, Jay Hall wrote:
> 
> On Aug 10, 2009, at 12:09 PM, Roland Smith wrote:
> 
> >> The fact that you are using tar also plays a part. Tar has some  
> >> overhead to
> >> store information about the files it contains.
> 
> Is it possible to calculate the amount of overhead tar will use?

Just execute the tar command, and dump the output to /dev/null through dd:
tar -cf - /etc |dd of=/dev/null
tar: Removing leading '/' from member names
3160+0 records in
3160+0 records out
1617920 bytes transferred in 0.057690 secs (28045115 bytes/sec)

This will give you the exact size without writing anything to disk.

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Re: Error code 254

2009-08-11 Thread Per olof Ljungmark

Mel Flynn wrote:

On Tuesday 11 August 2009 02:48:49 Per olof Ljungmark wrote:

===> Installing documentation in /usr/local/share/doc/pear/XML_Serializer.
===> Installing tests in /usr/local/share/pear/tests/XML_Serializer.
===> Installing examples in /usr/local/share/examples/pear/XML_Serializer.
*** Error code 254


What is "Error code 254" ?


A program returning -2 to the shell. Is that useful info? No.
Run make -dl install to see what goes wrong.


is this useful?

/bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/share/pear/packages/pear-XML_Serializer-0.20.0
install  -o root -g wheel -m 444 
/usr/ports/devel/pear-XML_Serializer/work/package.xml 
/usr/local/share/pear/packages/pear-XML_Serializer-0.20.0
/usr/bin/env PKG_PREFIX=/usr/local  /bin/sh 
/usr/ports/devel/pear/pear-install pear-XML_Serializer-0.20.0 POST-INSTALL

*** Error code 254


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Re: Don't let mergemaster beat you down [was Re: Failed update]

2009-08-11 Thread Mel Flynn
On Tuesday 11 August 2009 05:23:28 Arthur Chance wrote:
> Wayne Sierke wrote:
> > I lost practically all of my 'mergemaster pain' when I adopted the habit
> > of using it with -iUP options:
> >
> > -i  Automatically install any files that do not exist in the des-
> > tination directory.
> > -P  Preserve files that you replace in
> > /var/tmp/mergemaster/preserved-files-, or another
> > directory you specify in your mergemaster rc file.
> > -U  Attempt to auto upgrade files that have not been user modi-
> > fied.
>
> How does -U compare to -F? I've found that saves a lot of tedium.

-U saves a lot on major version upgrades as that tends to have a lot of 
changes in /etc/rc.*, something most of us don't touch by hand. However, the 
feature depends on having a fingerprint of the files, so that mergemaster can 
determine if you changed the file. Before using the feature and before 
upgrading it's therefore recommended to do a dry run so that the file 
(/var/db/mergemaster.mtree) is created.
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Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-11 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:09:38 +0100, chris scott  wrote:
> Dumping is all very well and good. However if you want daily or hourly
> backups etc it is very costly. Thats why our in house system at work is
> based around rsync and zfs

That's of course true. Another option is using cpdup from ports,
especially if your hardware is not good enough to keep ZFS usable.



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Re: freebsd-update-server, 7.2

2009-08-11 Thread Jason

Does anyone have any thoughts, or experience in using the
freebsd-update-server code?

Thanks,
Jason

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 09:24:52AM -0700, Jason thus spake:

Hi.

The freebsd-update-server project software hasn't been updated for 7,2,
but after making a couple of simple modifications, it seems to work rather well.

I am close, but not quiet smoking the cigar of triumph, yet.

When it initially builds, I get this error in the output:

Fri Aug  7 18:50:56 PDT 2009 Extracting world+src for FreeBSD/amd64
7.2-RELEASE
Sun Sep 12 01:51:21 UTC 2010 Building world for FreeBSD/amd64 7.2-RELEASE
Sat Sep 11 18:51:30 PDT 2010 Moving components into staging area for
FreeBSD/amd64 7.2-RELEASE
mv: rename /R/stage/trees to /R/trees/world: No such file or directory
Fri Aug  7 18:51:30 PDT 2009 Extracting extra docs for FreeBSD/amd64
7.2-RELEASE
tar: could not chdir to '/R/trees/world'

I would like to clear these errors up, as well... but...

The only code change I have made is adding this to build.subr for the iso
fetch. Basically a path change.

ISO=${FTP}/ISO-IMAGES-${TARGET}/${RELNUM}/${REL}-${TARGET}-disc1.iso

However, it does build. I send the update to my update server, and need to
copy latest.ssl and pub.ssl from one of the official update servers from
FreeBSD. If I don't do that, I will get this error.

freebsd-update fetch
Looking up xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx mirrors... none found.
Fetching metadata signature for 7.2-RELEASE from
xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx ... invalid signature.
No mirrors remaining, giving up.

If I do that, I then get to the next step:

freebsd-update fetch
Looking up xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx mirrors... none found.
Fetching metadata signature for 7.2-RELEASE from
xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx ... done.
Fetching metadata index... fetch:
http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/7.2-RELEASE/amd64/t/14e85c887f8e9ecaef130d50e3d2ddbb3664af22d9e05f652a66219bda5b76ba:
Not Found
failed.

On the update server, I do have this file though under the "t" directory:
4eeb3a30c564302be5e8129e6afdf3477ff316a891b5a4b6c9535947b7a81e28

I am curious why it is requesting the wrong file.

Here is my configuration file for 7.2:

# SHA256 hash of RELEASE disc1.iso image.
export RELH=1ea1f6f652d7c5f5eab7ef9f8edbed50cb664b08ed761850f95f48e86cc71ef5

# Components of the world, source, and kernels
export WORLDPARTS="base catpages dict doc games info manpages proflibs"
export SOURCEPARTS="base bin contrib crypto etc games gnu include krb5  \
 lib libexec release rescue sbin secure share sys tools  \
 ubin usbin"
export KERNELPARTS="generic"

# EOL date
export EOL=1275289200

Thanks,
Jason

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Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-11 Thread chris scott
2009/8/11 Polytropon 

> On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:34:13 -0400, PJ  wrote:
> > I've got another disk about the same size on the machine and I'm
> > wonderiing how could I transfer the whole shebang to it?
>
> Maybe an 1:1 copy using dd with a bs=1m would work.
>
>
>
> > Would doing a minimum 7.2 install be enough, followed by copying all the
> > slices to the corresponding slices on the new disk?
> > I'm thinking of mounting the broken drive on the new one and then
> > copying... does that sound about right?
>
> No. Does not. :-)
>
> The proper way of doing this - or at least ONE of the proper ways -
> is to use the intended tools for this task. These are dump and
> restore.
>
> First of all, you use a FreeBSD live system (such as FreeSBIE) or
> the livefs CD of the FreeBSD OS to run the OS. The goal is: Most
> minimal interaction with the drives.
>
> Let's assume ad0 is your source disk and ad1 the target disk.
>
> You can use the sysinstall tool to slice and partition the target
> disk. You can create the same layout as on the source disk. Of
> course, using tools like bsdlabel and newfs is valid, too. If
> you're done, things go like this:
>
> 1. Check the source.
>
># fsck /dev/ad0s1a /dev/ad0s1e /dev/ad0s1f /dev/ad0s1g /dev/ad0s1h
>
>   Add -f (and dangerous -y) if intended.
>
>
>
> 2. You don't mount the source disk. Instead, you first prepare
>   the target disk which you mount. Then you use dump and restore
>   to transfer the data from the unmounted source partition to
>   the mounted target partition.
>
># mount /dev/ad1s1a /mnt
># cd /mnt
># dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1a | restore -r -f -
>
>   Keep an eye on where you mount it. Maybe the live system you
>   use already employs /mnt for its own purposes. Create /target
>   instead, or anything else you like.
>
>
>
> 3. After transferting /, continue with /tmp /var /usr and /home.
>
># mount /dev/ad1s1a /mnt
># cd /mnt
># dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1a | restore -r -f -
>
># mount /dev/ad1s1e /mnt/tmp
># cd /mnt/tmp
># dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1e | restore -r -f -
>
># mount /dev/ad1s1f /mnt/var
># cd /mnt/var
># dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1f | restore -r -f -
>
># mount /dev/ad1s1g /mnt/usr
># cd /mnt/usr
># dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1g | restore -r -f -
>
># mount /dev/ad1s1h /mnt/home
># cd /mnt/home
># dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1h | restore -r -f -
>
>   Of course, triplepluscheck the commands before running them!
>
>
>
> 4. Unmount the target disks.
>
># cd /
># umount /mnt/home
># umount /mnt/usr
># umount /mnt/var
># umount /mnt/tmp
># umount /mnt
># sync
># halt
>
>   Replace the disks and start using your target.
>
>
>
> > I haven't looked at the broken one yet; I'll have to see what theat
> > 177mg dump was..
>
> Kernel image?
>
>
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> >From Magdeburg, Germany
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Dumping is all very well and good. However if you want daily or hourly
backups etc it is very costly. Thats why our in house system at work is
based around rsync and zfs

Basically we rsync the file to the x4500 with ~ 36 TB and then snapshot the
backup. You then have incremental forever. On large systems that dont have
much % change of content the benefits are huge
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Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-11 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:34:13 -0400, PJ  wrote:
> I've got another disk about the same size on the machine and I'm
> wonderiing how could I transfer the whole shebang to it?

Maybe an 1:1 copy using dd with a bs=1m would work.



> Would doing a minimum 7.2 install be enough, followed by copying all the
> slices to the corresponding slices on the new disk?
> I'm thinking of mounting the broken drive on the new one and then
> copying... does that sound about right?

No. Does not. :-)

The proper way of doing this - or at least ONE of the proper ways -
is to use the intended tools for this task. These are dump and
restore.

First of all, you use a FreeBSD live system (such as FreeSBIE) or
the livefs CD of the FreeBSD OS to run the OS. The goal is: Most
minimal interaction with the drives.

Let's assume ad0 is your source disk and ad1 the target disk.

You can use the sysinstall tool to slice and partition the target
disk. You can create the same layout as on the source disk. Of
course, using tools like bsdlabel and newfs is valid, too. If
you're done, things go like this:

1. Check the source.

# fsck /dev/ad0s1a /dev/ad0s1e /dev/ad0s1f /dev/ad0s1g /dev/ad0s1h

   Add -f (and dangerous -y) if intended.



2. You don't mount the source disk. Instead, you first prepare
   the target disk which you mount. Then you use dump and restore
   to transfer the data from the unmounted source partition to
   the mounted target partition.

# mount /dev/ad1s1a /mnt
# cd /mnt
# dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1a | restore -r -f -

   Keep an eye on where you mount it. Maybe the live system you
   use already employs /mnt for its own purposes. Create /target
   instead, or anything else you like.



3. After transferting /, continue with /tmp /var /usr and /home.

# mount /dev/ad1s1a /mnt
# cd /mnt
# dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1a | restore -r -f -

# mount /dev/ad1s1e /mnt/tmp
# cd /mnt/tmp
# dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1e | restore -r -f -

# mount /dev/ad1s1f /mnt/var
# cd /mnt/var
# dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1f | restore -r -f -

# mount /dev/ad1s1g /mnt/usr
# cd /mnt/usr
# dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1g | restore -r -f -

# mount /dev/ad1s1h /mnt/home
# cd /mnt/home
# dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1h | restore -r -f -

   Of course, triplepluscheck the commands before running them!



4. Unmount the target disks.

# cd /
# umount /mnt/home
# umount /mnt/usr
# umount /mnt/var
# umount /mnt/tmp
# umount /mnt
# sync
# halt

   Replace the disks and start using your target.



> I haven't looked at the broken one yet; I'll have to see what theat
> 177mg dump was..

Kernel image?


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Re: Don't let mergemaster beat you down [was Re: Failed update]

2009-08-11 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:52:36 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block  
wrote:
> I prefer phooey mode: -FUi.  Still works with -PFUi.

"PFui" is German for something like "Ugh". I think
that is NOT intended. :-)



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Re: graphics/ImageMagick seemingly not using OpenMP

2009-08-11 Thread Kirk Strauser

On Aug 11, 2009, at 9:53 AM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:


Have you also built perl-threaded?



I just now recompiled Perl with threads enabled, then Imagemagick,  
with identical results.

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Re: glxgears on 8.0 current

2009-08-11 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 05:42:46PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote:
> Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 03:04:14PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
> >   
> >> In many online articles I've seen suggestions to
> >> use glxgears to check whether OpenGL is installed
> >> correctly. I've
> >>
> >>libGL-7.4.4 and mesagl-mangled-5.0.2
> >>
> >> installed on
> >>
> >>FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 ia64
> >>
> >> but cannot find glxgears.
> >>
> >> What am I missing here?
> >> 
> >
> > forgot to say that I need to check OpenGL because
> > I have some problems with port science/paraview, which
> > depends on libGL, and probably on mesagl, via VTK.
> >
> > many thanks
> >
> >   
> 
> Just install graphics/mesa-demos

thank you

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Re: Error code 254

2009-08-11 Thread Mel Flynn
On Tuesday 11 August 2009 02:48:49 Per olof Ljungmark wrote:
> ===> Installing documentation in /usr/local/share/doc/pear/XML_Serializer.
> ===> Installing tests in /usr/local/share/pear/tests/XML_Serializer.
> ===> Installing examples in /usr/local/share/examples/pear/XML_Serializer.
> *** Error code 254
>
>
> What is "Error code 254" ?

A program returning -2 to the shell. Is that useful info? No.
Run make -dl install to see what goes wrong.
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Re: toaster or do-it-myself?

2009-08-11 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Tuesday, August 11, 2009 00:37:50 -0500 Identry  
wrote:




Frack... qmail is impossible. I've been hacking at this for 14 hours
and it's just not working. I must be stupid.


I can't speak to that, because I've never used qmail.  However, I can tell you 
that Postfix can do Maildir format, so you're not limited to qmail.


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Re: toaster or do-it-myself?

2009-08-11 Thread Identry
> there is a great guide for installing qmail:
>        http://www.lifewithqmail.org/
> Of course, it just explains the technical steps for installing qmail,
> not mailserver setups in general (nevertheless there are some links
> about relaying etc.)

That's one of the docs that I was working from yesterday. I also have
the O'Reilly Qmail book.

Actually, I got qmail running fairly quickly using the procedures in
the O'Reilly book. Unfortunately, it died and I then spent about 10
hours trying to figure out what the problem was.

Well, I never did figure it out and I'm not ashamed to say that I've
given up trying. Life's too short. I'm outsourcing the problem to a
email service provider. I realized that running an email server
properly is a full time job, and I already have 14 full time jobs.
Eventually, you just have to say "Enough!" and let someone else handle
some of the work.

I've been hoping to have something useful to contribute to this forum.
That's a lesson well worth passing on, I think!

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Re: graphics/ImageMagick seemingly not using OpenMP

2009-08-11 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 09:38:52AM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote:
> On Aug 11, 2009, at 6:54 AM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
> 
> >On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:18:43AM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote:
> >>On my FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE system (from July 29), I'm trying to enable
> >>OpenMP for the graphics/ImageMagick port.  With the
> >>IMAGEMAGICK_OPENMP
> >>option set, I get this from "make configure":
> >>
> >>checking for cc -std=gnu99 option to support OpenMP... (cached)
> >>unsupported
> >>checking for cc -std=gnu99 option to support OpenMP... -fopenmp
> >>
> >>If I go on to build it, there's no other mention of OpenMP in the
> >>output.  What am I doing wrong?
> 
> >I think the second like shows that OMP is indeed supported.
> >Have you tested on any OMP test?
> 
> But the rest of the build doesn't give any indication. Specifically,
> the "-fopenmp" flag isn't used anywhere.  I've tested that OMP works
> - or at least compiles - but I don't know of any way to find if a
> given binary was actually compiled with it.

I haven't got any SMP IM tests, so cannot advise on this.
If you know of some, let me know, I'd like to test my SMP
box.
Have you also built perl-threaded?

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Re: location of user crontab files?

2009-08-11 Thread Frederique Rijsdijk


Identry wrote:
> Where are user crontab files stored in the file system?

/var/con/tabs



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Re: Don't let mergemaster beat you down [was Re: Failed update]

2009-08-11 Thread Warren Block

On Tue, 11 Aug 2009, p...@pair.com wrote:

in message <1249971512.63923.1045.ca...@predator-ii.buffyverse>,
wrote Wayne Sierke thusly...


On Sun, 2009-08-09 at 08:34 -0700, Richard Mahlerwein wrote:

I'm redoing the whole process in single user mode.  My guess is
I goofed something during mergemaster and devd.conf is messed
up.  (Mergemaster is, undeniably, my least favorite utility).


I lost practically all of my 'mergemaster pain' when I adopted the
habit of using it with -iUP options:

-iAutomatically install any files that do not exist in the des-
  tination directory.
-PPreserve files that you replace in
  /var/tmp/mergemaster/preserved-files-, or another
  directory you specify in your mergemaster rc file.
-UAttempt to auto upgrade files that have not been user modi-
  fied.


Ah. My mnemonic would be "PiU" as in "Pew! Pew!".


I prefer phooey mode: -FUi.  Still works with -PFUi.

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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location of user crontab files?

2009-08-11 Thread Identry
Where are user crontab files stored in the file system?

I used to create user crontab files and then load them with 'crontab
name-of-cronfile', but then I got clever and discovered 'crontab -e'.
The problem is, that doesn't give me the 'backup' of having a text
crontab file.

The system must store the info somewhere so it's available after a
reboot, but where? I want to make sure this info is backed up.

Thanks: John
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Re: Don't let mergemaster beat you down [was Re: Failed update]

2009-08-11 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Tuesday, August 11, 2009 01:18:32 -0500 Wayne Sierke  
wrote:




On Sun, 2009-08-09 at 08:34 -0700, Richard Mahlerwein wrote:

I'm redoing the whole process in single user mode.  My guess is I
goofed something during mergemaster and devd.conf is messed up.
(Mergemaster is, undeniably, my least favorite utility).


I lost practically all of my 'mergemaster pain' when I adopted the habit
of using it with -iUP options:

-i  Automatically install any files that do not exist in the des-
tination directory.
-P  Preserve files that you replace in
/var/tmp/mergemaster/preserved-files-, or another
directory you specify in your mergemaster rc file.
-U  Attempt to auto upgrade files that have not been user modi-
fied.

"Try it - you'll like it!"



That's one way to do it.  Another is to use /etc/mergemaster.rc.  Here's mine:

# less /etc/mergemaster.rc
# Automatically install files that do not exist
AUTO_INSTALL='yes'
# Automatically upgrade files that have not been edited
AUTO_UPGRADE='yes'
# Ignore files that I don't want changed
IGNORE_FILES='/etc/motd'
# Do not display changes that only affect whitespace
DIFF_FLAG="'.Bub'"
# Ignore CVS id lines to stop replacing files where only that line has changed
DIFF_OPTIONS='-I$FreeBSD:.*[$]'

I never have issues with mergemaster because of this file.

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Re: glxgears on 8.0 current

2009-08-11 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 03:04:14PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
>   
>> In many online articles I've seen suggestions to
>> use glxgears to check whether OpenGL is installed
>> correctly. I've
>>
>>  libGL-7.4.4 and mesagl-mangled-5.0.2
>>
>> installed on
>>
>>  FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 ia64
>>
>> but cannot find glxgears.
>>
>> What am I missing here?
>> 
>
> forgot to say that I need to check OpenGL because
> I have some problems with port science/paraview, which
> depends on libGL, and probably on mesagl, via VTK.
>
> many thanks
>
>   

Just install graphics/mesa-demos
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Re: graphics/ImageMagick seemingly not using OpenMP

2009-08-11 Thread Kirk Strauser

On Aug 11, 2009, at 6:54 AM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:


On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:18:43AM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote:

On my FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE system (from July 29), I'm trying to enable
OpenMP for the graphics/ImageMagick port.  With the  
IMAGEMAGICK_OPENMP

option set, I get this from "make configure":

checking for cc -std=gnu99 option to support OpenMP... (cached)  
unsupported

checking for cc -std=gnu99 option to support OpenMP... -fopenmp

If I go on to build it, there's no other mention of OpenMP in the
output.  What am I doing wrong?



I think the second like shows that OMP is indeed supported.
Have you tested on any OMP test?


But the rest of the build doesn't give any indication. Specifically,  
the "-fopenmp" flag isn't used anywhere.  I've tested that OMP works -  
or at least compiles - but I don't know of any way to find if a given  
binary was actually compiled with it.

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Re: Don't let mergemaster beat you down [was Re: Failed update]

2009-08-11 Thread Richard Mahlerwein
--- On Tue, 8/11/09, Wayne Sierke  wrote:

> From: Wayne Sierke 
> Subject: Don't let mergemaster beat you down [was Re: Failed update]
> To: mahle...@yahoo.com
> Cc: "FreeBSD-Questions" 
> Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 2:18 AM
> On Sun, 2009-08-09 at 08:34 -0700,
> Richard Mahlerwein wrote:
> > I'm redoing the whole process in single user
> mode.  My guess is I
> > goofed something during mergemaster and devd.conf is
> messed up.
> > (Mergemaster is, undeniably, my least favorite
> utility).  
> 
> I lost practically all of my 'mergemaster pain' when I
> adopted the habit
> of using it with -iUP options:
> 
>         -i   
> Automatically install any files that do not exist in the
> des-
>                
> tination directory.
>         -P    Preserve
> files that you replace in
>                
> /var/tmp/mergemaster/preserved-files-, or
> another
>                
> directory you specify in your mergemaster rc file.
>         -U    Attempt to
> auto upgrade files that have not been user modi-
>                
> fied.
>         
> "Try it - you'll like it!"
> 
> 
> Wayne

Thanks for the tips!  

I'll have more info in a couple of weeks on this  - I'm in training and not at 
home until thursday, and Friday we leave to visit relatives for another week.  

I did do the rebuild all in single-user mode before I left Sunday, and now I 
get another signal 12 core crash, at the *same* virtual address, but in a 
*different* utility... don't remember which one right now, but it seemed 
completely unrelated.

When I get home in a few weeks, I'm going to run some memory tests and yanking 
extraneous hardware to try to see if I can make it stop.  Anything else you all 
can think of to try?

Thanks,
Rich  



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Re: Don't let mergemaster beat you down [was Re: Failed update]

2009-08-11 Thread parv
in message <1249971512.63923.1045.ca...@predator-ii.buffyverse>,
wrote Wayne Sierke thusly...
>
> On Sun, 2009-08-09 at 08:34 -0700, Richard Mahlerwein wrote:
> > I'm redoing the whole process in single user mode.  My guess is
> > I goofed something during mergemaster and devd.conf is messed
> > up.  (Mergemaster is, undeniably, my least favorite utility).
>
> I lost practically all of my 'mergemaster pain' when I adopted the
> habit of using it with -iUP options:
>
> -iAutomatically install any files that do not exist in the des-
>   tination directory.
> -PPreserve files that you replace in
>   /var/tmp/mergemaster/preserved-files-, or another
>   directory you specify in your mergemaster rc file.
> -UAttempt to auto upgrade files that have not been user modi-
>   fied.

Ah. My mnemonic would be "PiU" as in "Pew! Pew!".


  - Parv

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Re: glxgears on 8.0 current

2009-08-11 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 03:04:14PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
> In many online articles I've seen suggestions to
> use glxgears to check whether OpenGL is installed
> correctly. I've
> 
>   libGL-7.4.4 and mesagl-mangled-5.0.2
> 
> installed on
> 
>   FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 ia64
> 
> but cannot find glxgears.
> 
> What am I missing here?

forgot to say that I need to check OpenGL because
I have some problems with port science/paraview, which
depends on libGL, and probably on mesagl, via VTK.

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glxgears on 8.0 current

2009-08-11 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
In many online articles I've seen suggestions to
use glxgears to check whether OpenGL is installed
correctly. I've

libGL-7.4.4 and mesagl-mangled-5.0.2

installed on

FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 ia64

but cannot find glxgears.

What am I missing here?

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Re: FreeBSD MATLAB R2008b

2009-08-11 Thread Daniel Underwood
Sorry, haven't gotten around to this yet. Will try to this afternoon.

On Sunday, August 9, 2009, Daniel Underwood  wrote:
> Elias,
>
> I got to a certain point, then temporarily put it aside.  See, I was 
> installing from a custom install disc, and so I'm not really surprised that 
> the Handbook instructions for installing matlab on freebsd didn't completely 
> help me.
>
> However, I now have a standard install disc. I plan to retry the install with 
> this new disc.
>
> I "do" think I encountered java-related errors, but I can't recall the 
> details or whether it's what you're encountering.
>
> I'll reply to the list here once I attempt the install tomorrow.
>
> (Sent from my iPhone)
>
> On Aug 9, 2009, at 9:43 AM, Elias Schäfer  wrote:
>
>
> Hello Daniel,
>
> I read your post 
> (http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-July/202242.html) 
> and applied your patch. First, it seemed to work (no sse2 complaining) but 
> then I got an Java related error that I could not solve. I have R14 running 
> here, but I need to run a newer version. I am curious if you got MATLAB 
> r2008b working. Do you get a similar error? I am looking for a solution for 
> the past couple of days.
>
> regards
>
> Elias
> (Aug 08, 2009 21:15:12)MATHWORKS ACTIVATION IS STARTING UP.
> (Aug 08, 2009 21:15:13)java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: 
> /usr/home/knick/matlabr2008b/bin/glnx86/libinstutil.so: libstdc++.so.6: 
> cannot handle TLS data
> com.mathworks.instutil.NativeUtility.(NativeUtility.java:36)
> com.mathworks.instutil.MachineInfo.(MachineInfo.java:40)
> com.mathworks.activationclient.model.ActivationModelImpl.loadNativeLib(ActivationModelImpl.java:216)
> com.mathworks.activationclient.model.ActivationModelImpl.getMachineInfo(ActivationModelImpl.java:189)
> com.mathworks.activationclient.view.ApplicationViewImpl.getMachineInfo(ApplicationViewImpl.java:200)
> com.mathworks.activationclient.view.ApplicationViewImpl.showGUI(ApplicationViewImpl.java:79)
> com.mathworks.activationclient.controller.ApplicationControllerImpl.start(ApplicationControllerImpl.java:99)
> com.mathworks.activationclient.ActivationApplication.main(ActivationApplication.java:31)
>
> (Aug 08, 2009 21:15:13)null
> com.mathworks.activationclient.view.ApplicationViewImpl.showGUI(ApplicationViewImpl.java:79)
> com.mathworks.activationclient.controller.ApplicationControllerImpl.start(ApplicationControllerImpl.java:99)
> com.mathworks.activationclient.ActivationApplication.main(ActivationApplication.java:31)
>
> (Aug 08, 2009 21:15:24)There was an unexpected exception:
>
> null
>
> See the log file (/tmp/aws.log) for more details.
>
>
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Re: Don't let mergemaster beat you down [was Re: Failed update]

2009-08-11 Thread Arthur Chance

Wayne Sierke wrote:

I lost practically all of my 'mergemaster pain' when I adopted the habit
of using it with -iUP options:

-i  Automatically install any files that do not exist in the des-
tination directory.
-P  Preserve files that you replace in
/var/tmp/mergemaster/preserved-files-, or another
directory you specify in your mergemaster rc file.
-U  Attempt to auto upgrade files that have not been user modi-
fied.


How does -U compare to -F? I've found that saves a lot of tedium.

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Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-11 Thread PJ
Bill Moran wrote:
> In response to PJ :
>
>   
>> I just finished setting up 7.2 with all my programs installed,
>> configured & working fine with recovered files all working fine and just
>> as I boot up to start backing up everything... WHAM... the boot-up
>> kind-of hobbles and boots up.
>> I am called away from the computer and when I return - goodie, goodie,
>> there is a dump of some 177 mbs and the poor computer is trying to r
>> eboot... but that's it. And the
>> I scan the guilty drive and it's the very first, boot, sector that is
>> Baad. And the regenerator program doesn't go any further. :-(
>> Other than booting up with livefs and trying to copy everything to
>> another disk, is there something else that I should do?
>> I think it should work if I connect the drive to USB ...
>> But before, I thought I should listen to some sage advice... :-)
>> Anyone? TIA
>> 
>
> I think you've got the right idea.  If the drive is funky, get your data
> off it while you can.
>   
I've got another disk about the same size on the machine and I'm
wonderiing how could I transfer the whole shebang to it?
Would doing a minimum 7.2 install be enough, followed by copying all the
slices to the corresponding slices on the new disk?
I'm thinking of mounting the broken drive on the new one and then
copying... does that sound about right?
I haven't looked at the broken one yet; I'll have to see what theat
177mg dump was..

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Re: boot sector f*ed

2009-08-11 Thread Bill Moran
In response to PJ :

> I just finished setting up 7.2 with all my programs installed,
> configured & working fine with recovered files all working fine and just
> as I boot up to start backing up everything... WHAM... the boot-up
> kind-of hobbles and boots up.
> I am called away from the computer and when I return - goodie, goodie,
> there is a dump of some 177 mbs and the poor computer is trying to r
> eboot... but that's it. And the
> I scan the guilty drive and it's the very first, boot, sector that is
> Baad. And the regenerator program doesn't go any further. :-(
> Other than booting up with livefs and trying to copy everything to
> another disk, is there something else that I should do?
> I think it should work if I connect the drive to USB ...
> But before, I thought I should listen to some sage advice... :-)
> Anyone? TIA

I think you've got the right idea.  If the drive is funky, get your data
off it while you can.

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boot sector f*ed

2009-08-11 Thread PJ
I just finished setting up 7.2 with all my programs installed,
configured & working fine with recovered files all working fine and just
as I boot up to start backing up everything... WHAM... the boot-up
kind-of hobbles and boots up.
I am called away from the computer and when I return - goodie, goodie,
there is a dump of some 177 mbs and the poor computer is trying to r
eboot... but that's it. And the
I scan the guilty drive and it's the very first, boot, sector that is
Baad. And the regenerator program doesn't go any further. :-(
Other than booting up with livefs and trying to copy everything to
another disk, is there something else that I should do?
I think it should work if I connect the drive to USB ...
But before, I thought I should listen to some sage advice... :-)
Anyone? TIA

PJ
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Re: Trying to Install Man Page

2009-08-11 Thread Martin McCormick
George Davidovich writes:
> If your testpage manpage is located in a man1 directory, it has to be
> named testpage.1 (or gzipped as testpage.1.gz).  For a man2 directory,
> the suffix is .2, and so on.  Rename the file and I'm sure things will
> work fine.

That was it! Thank you.

Martin McCormick
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Re: Trying to Install Man Page

2009-08-11 Thread Martin McCormick
Randall Wood writes:
> Yes, the program is mandb I think.

That's exactly what I also thought but there is no such program.
I think this may be one of those deprecation cases where the
function is now done some other way. I'll keep digging. Thanks.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK 
Systems Engineer
OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group
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Re: graphics/ImageMagick seemingly not using OpenMP

2009-08-11 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:18:43AM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote:
> On my FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE system (from July 29), I'm trying to enable
> OpenMP for the graphics/ImageMagick port.  With the IMAGEMAGICK_OPENMP
> option set, I get this from "make configure":
> 
> checking for cc -std=gnu99 option to support OpenMP... (cached) unsupported
> checking for cc -std=gnu99 option to support OpenMP... -fopenmp
> 
> If I go on to build it, there's no other mention of OpenMP in the
> output.  What am I doing wrong?

I think the second like shows that OMP is indeed supported.
Have you tested on any OMP test?

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Error code 254

2009-08-11 Thread Per olof Ljungmark

===> Installing documentation in /usr/local/share/doc/pear/XML_Serializer.
===> Installing tests in /usr/local/share/pear/tests/XML_Serializer.
===> Installing examples in /usr/local/share/examples/pear/XML_Serializer.
*** Error code 254


What is "Error code 254" ?
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Oil installation problem while installing KDE4

2009-08-11 Thread Aftab Jahan Subedar
need to link liboil-0.3.so.3 to liboil-0.3.so.0, so anyone having problem
with this,
can do the follwoing
ln -s liboil-0.3.so.3  liboil-0.3.so.0

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Notice regards to gstreamer/kde4/qt/kdepim etc installation problem

2009-08-11 Thread Aftab Jahan Subedar
Qt
===
Due to Qt version mismatch, any application referring to the new qt4-xx
libraries not
installed automagically hence NOT installing the intended package. You have
to
deinstall old qt-x referred libraries manually first. Then everything
should work fine.

Note that Qt has lots of qt4-xxx or  -qt4 libraries, so reading the
error properly will mostly prevail the info.

gstreamer
-
gstreamer plugins refers to libgstreamer-0.10.so.0 and after installing new
gstreamer, got to link the new shared obect with the new one. Doing the
following will solve the problem.

cd /usr/local/lib
ln -s libgstreamer-0.10.so.21 libgstreamer-0.10.so.0




I faced this problem while installing KDE4 on 7.2-STABLE #1: Sat Jun 27
12:05:03 UTC 2009
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Re: Trying to Install Man Page

2009-08-11 Thread George Davidovich
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 03:59:43PM -0500, Martin McCormick wrote:
> There is a test man page I am trying to install and the system is not
> finding it. I put it in /usr/local/man/man1 and think I should at
> least get complaints about the page as it is the start of a man page,
> not the whole thing. I named it testpage

If your testpage manpage is located in a man1 directory, it has to be
named testpage.1 (or gzipped as testpage.1.gz).  For a man2 directory,
the suffix is .2, and so on.  Rename the file and I'm sure things will
work fine.

> , compressed it with gzip and when I type
> 
> man testpage, it just says that there is no manual entry for testpage.
> 
> Is there a data base I forgot to remake after adding the page? I did
> make sure the ownership and permissions are the same as other pages in
> the directory. I also did a man on one of the other pages in that same
> directory and it came right up. Thank you.

>From man(1):

By default, man uses manpath(1) (which is built into the man binary)
to determine the path to search.  This option overrides the MANPATH
environment variable.

You can read manpath(1) for a full description of how things work (the
configuration file used is /etc/manpath.config), but be sure to read
man(1) in its entirety if you're going to get in the habit of writing
your own manpages.  More specifically, it describes the -w or -d options
you can use for debugging fun, and the sometimes useful -M option[1].

As a side note, if the manpage is for your own use, I'd suggest using
a hierarchy rooted in ~/man instead of /usr/local/man.  That can offer
numerous[2] benefits. 

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   your chances of finding more useful information than what's typically
   provided in the horrible info pages.

2. Aside from portability, it's especially useful on Windows systems
   where Cygwin is installed, but you're writing manpages for Windows
   (where the documentation is even more sparse than what's found in
   info pages, and no less clumsy to use).

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Re: filesystem size after newfs

2009-08-11 Thread chris scott
2009/8/11 mojo fms 

> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Naeem Afzal  wrote:
>
> >
> >I created this small partition of 512K bytes on disk, I am noticing
> > about 24% is used up before system can be mounted and used. My assumption
> > was about 4% is supposed to be used if minfree is set to 0.
> >
> >#newfs -U -l -m 0 -n -o space /dev/ad1d
> >/dev/ad1d: 0.5MB (1024 sectors) block size 16384, fragment size 2048
> > using 1 cylinder groups of 0.50MB, 32 blks, 64 inodes with soft updates
> >super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at:
> >160
> >#mount /dev/ad1d /test
> >#df -H /test
> >FilesystemSizeUsed  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> >/dev/ad1d  391k2.0k389k1%/test
> >Could someone explain where the 512-391=121K of disk space went to?
> What
> > is the relation between this used of space and total paritition size or
> is
> > it some fixed ratio?
> >Thanks & Regards
> > Naeem
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> 5% to root, and the rest i am assuming file system blocks.  Try making the
> 512k partition bigger accounting for those things and you should be able to
> get it really close to 512k available.
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why do you want something that small? Could you not use an md device or
tmpfs, they would probably be more efficient
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Re: Trying to Install Man Page

2009-08-11 Thread Randall Wood
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 03:59:43PM -0500, Martin McCormick wrote:
> There is a test man page I am trying to install and the system
> is not finding it. I put it in /usr/local/man/man1 and think
> I should at least get complaints about the page as it is the
> start of a man page, not the whole thing. I named it testpage,
> compressed it with gzip and when I type
> 
> man testpage, it just says that there is no manual entry for
> testpage.
> 
>   Is there a data base I forgot to remake after adding the
> page? I did make sure the ownership and permissions are the same
> as other pages in the directory. I also did a man on one of the
> other pages in that same directory and it came right up. Thank
> you.
> 
> Martin McCormick

Yes, the program is mandb I think.
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