Re: Virtualbox on 8.2 64-bit (cont)

2011-06-14 Thread Ondrej Majerech

On 06/09/2011 15:49, Rob wrote:

On 6/6/11 8:39 PM, Mario Lobo wrote:

You need to rebuild your kernel with



options COMPAT_FREEBSD32 # Compatible with i386 binaries



included.


I noticed that when I tried to build the ports, but I don't have
anything in /usr/src and no information was given as to what
packages/src I needed to install. I'd like to avoid diverging from the
stock release kernel for upgrade simplicity. What exactly does that do?
Will it introduce upgrade complexity (ie will I have to upgrade these
libs before I upgrade the kernel or some such)?


Needless to say, that option seems to be enabled in GENERIC:

[starlight] ~  grep COMPAT_FREEBSD32 /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC
options COMPAT_FREEBSD32# Compatible with i386 binaries

Also I don't remember having to issue make build32 install32 or anything 
of that sort.


You do need to have the FreeBSD source tree installed on your system, 
though. Did you try just fetching the source tree without building from 
it and then trying to build VirtualBox again?


~ Ondra
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mysql_connect error

2011-06-14 Thread Glenn McCalley
Seen other people have this problem but cannot get their resolutions to work 
for me.


Fatal error: Call to oundefined function mysql_connect() in etc., etc.

This began happening after an upgrade to php5 using the portmaster program.
phpinfo page does -not- show the mysql_connect function anywhere.
phpinfo page is at www9.bnetmd.net/index.php if you have the desire to look.

Suggestions from lists/boards seem to all point to mysql.so not being in the 
php library, yet a find shows it is in there.


pkg_info shows php5-mysql-5.3.5  The mysql shared extension for php

extensions.ini shows extension=mysql.so

Is there anywhere/anything else to look/do?

Thanks!
Glenn.




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Re: mysql_connect error

2011-06-14 Thread Glenn McCalley


- Original Message - 
From: Damien Fleuriot m...@my.gd

To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: mysql_connect error



On 6/14/11 2:46 PM, Glenn McCalley wrote:

Seen other people have this problem but cannot get their resolutions to
work for me.

Fatal error: Call to oundefined function mysql_connect() in etc., etc.

This began happening after an upgrade to php5 using the portmaster 
program.

phpinfo page does -not- show the mysql_connect function anywhere.
phpinfo page is at www9.bnetmd.net/index.php if you have the desire to
look.

Suggestions from lists/boards seem to all point to mysql.so not being in
the php library, yet a find shows it is in there.

pkg_info shows php5-mysql-5.3.5  The mysql shared extension for php

extensions.ini shows extension=mysql.so

Is there anywhere/anything else to look/do?

Thanks!
Glenn.





If I were you, I would reinstall the php5 mysql extension like so:


cd /usr/ports/lang/php5-extensions
make config
# make sure you tick the MYSQL option
make clean
make
make deinstall  make reinstall


Then, restart your web server or PHP FCGI process, as applicable.

You should be cool.


Thanks Damien,

Did so, mysql definitely checked, no help.  I did see that gd was not 
checked so checked that, did the make process and that cured another problem 
so I'd say the reinstall did in fact take.


The error happens when being run from the command line.  Does that make a 
difference?


Glenn. 



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Re: mysql_connect error

2011-06-14 Thread Greg Larkin
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On 6/14/11 10:49 AM, Glenn McCalley wrote:
 
 - Original Message - From: Damien Fleuriot m...@my.gd
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 10:35 AM
 Subject: Re: mysql_connect error
 
 
 On 6/14/11 2:46 PM, Glenn McCalley wrote:
 Seen other people have this problem but cannot get their resolutions to
 work for me.

 Fatal error: Call to oundefined function mysql_connect() in etc., etc.

 This began happening after an upgrade to php5 using the portmaster
 program.
 phpinfo page does -not- show the mysql_connect function anywhere.
 phpinfo page is at www9.bnetmd.net/index.php if you have the desire to
 look.

 Suggestions from lists/boards seem to all point to mysql.so not being in
 the php library, yet a find shows it is in there.

 pkg_info shows php5-mysql-5.3.5  The mysql shared extension for
 php

 extensions.ini shows extension=mysql.so

 Is there anywhere/anything else to look/do?

 Thanks!
 Glenn.




 If I were you, I would reinstall the php5 mysql extension like so:


 cd /usr/ports/lang/php5-extensions
 make config
 # make sure you tick the MYSQL option
 make clean
 make
 make deinstall  make reinstall


 Then, restart your web server or PHP FCGI process, as applicable.

 You should be cool.

 Thanks Damien,
 
 Did so, mysql definitely checked, no help.  I did see that gd was not
 checked so checked that, did the make process and that cured another
 problem so I'd say the reinstall did in fact take.
 
 The error happens when being run from the command line.  Does that make
 a difference?
 
 Glenn.

Hi Glenn,

Try running this command in your shell:

php -i | grep -i php.ini

Does the reported path match the one reported by your phpinfo page
(viewed in the web browser)?  Also, is it possible you have multiple php
executables installed?  What is the output of the following commands?

which php
pkg_info -L php5-5\*

Regards,
Greg
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Re: mysql_connect error

2011-06-14 Thread Glenn McCalley

On Tuesday, June 14, 2011 09:46:17 AM Glenn McCalley wrote:

Seen other people have this problem but cannot get their resolutions to
work for me.

Fatal error: Call to oundefined function mysql_connect() in etc., etc.

This began happening after an upgrade to php5 using the portmaster 
program.

phpinfo page does -not- show the mysql_connect function anywhere.
phpinfo page is at www9.bnetmd.net/index.php if you have the desire to
look.



It looks good, where are you getting the error? in a web page or using cli?

Rodrigo
Ahh hadn't thought of that.  It's cli.  Does that have to be installed 
separately?Glenn. 



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Re: mysql_connect error

2011-06-14 Thread Rodrigo Gonzalez
 
 Hi Glenn,
 
 Try running this command in your shell:
 
 php -i | grep -i php.ini
 
 Does the reported path match the one reported by your phpinfo page
 (viewed in the web browser)?  Also, is it possible you have multiple php
 executables installed?  What is the output of the following commands?
 

Also run
php -m

and see that mysql is in list

You should check that it is using the same php.ini as Greg said, and if 
required symlink the files or add extension=mysql.so to the php.ini used by cli
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Re: mysql_connect error

2011-06-14 Thread Glenn McCalley


- Original Message - 
From: Rodrigo Gonzalez rjgonz...@estrads.com.ar

To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; glar...@freebsd.org
Cc: Glenn McCalley gl...@bnetmd.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: mysql_connect error




Hi Glenn,

Try running this command in your shell:

php -i | grep -i php.ini

Does the reported path match the one reported by your phpinfo page
(viewed in the web browser)?  Also, is it possible you have multiple php
executables installed?  What is the output of the following commands?



Also run
php -m

and see that mysql is in list

You should check that it is using the same php.ini as Greg said, and if
required symlink the files or add extension=mysql.so to the php.ini used 
by cli

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Rodrigo,
The php.ini path and file match the phpinfo page.

However, php -m does NOT report a mysql module, and I get the same Undefined 
symbol error our of lubmysqlclient.so.16 that I mentioned in my answer to 
Greg's post.


The line extension=mysql.so IS is the extensions.ini file.

Thanks,
Glenn. 



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Re: Probably working too hard for this cron question

2011-06-14 Thread Warren Block

On Mon, 13 Jun 2011, Kurt Buff wrote:


Per the handbook, I added

SHELL=/bin/sh

to crontab, and I also added

#!/bin/sh

as the first line in the script


Should not need both.  The first changes a default, which is bad when 
you switch to another system where that hasn't been changed.  The 
second, putting #!/bin/sh in the script, should be enough.

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Re: mysql_connect error

2011-06-14 Thread Rodrigo Gonzalez
On Tuesday, June 14, 2011 12:56:11 PM Glenn McCalley wrote:
 Rodrigo,
 The php.ini path and file match the phpinfo page.
 
 However, php -m does NOT report a mysql module, and I get the same
 Undefined symbol error our of lubmysqlclient.so.16 that I mentioned in my
 answer to Greg's post.
 
 The line extension=mysql.so IS is the extensions.ini file.
 
 Thanks,
 Glenn.
 

I would start reompiling mysql client libraries and then php-mysql extension 
again

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DHCP Question

2011-06-14 Thread jhall
I am working with a vendor and they are wanting me to send them ip 
addresses via option 74 in DHCP (irc-server).  After I defined this in my 
dhcpd.conf file, the option is still not being sent.  However, I am not 
receiving a request for this option. 

I have done a bunch of Googling this morning/afternoon, and have not been 
able to find a way to send the option whether it is requested or not. 

Is it possible to do this?

Thanks,


Jay

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Re: DHCP Question

2011-06-14 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Jun 14, 2011, at 11:19 AM, jh...@socket.net wrote:
 I am working with a vendor and they are wanting me to send them ip 
 addresses via option 74 in DHCP (irc-server).  After I defined this in my 
 dhcpd.conf file, the option is still not being sent.  However, I am not 
 receiving a request for this option. 

I'm not sure why someone would care about setting an IRC server via DHCPd,
but I won't second-guess the requirement.

 I have done a bunch of Googling this morning/afternoon, and have not been 
 able to find a way to send the option whether it is requested or not. 

You want:

   option dhcp-parameter-request-list uint16;

 This  option,  when  sent  by the client, specifies which options the
 client wishes the server to  return.Normally,  in  the  ISC  DHCP
 client, this is done using the request statement.   If this option is
 not specified by the client, the DHCP  server  will  normally  return
 every  option  that  is  valid in scope and that fits into the reply.
 When this option is specified on the server, the server  returns  the
 specified  options.This  can  be  used  to force a client to take
 options that it hasn't requested, and it can also be used  to  tailor
 the response of the DHCP server for clients that may need a more lim-
 ited set of options than those the server would normally return.

Regards,
-- 
-Chuck

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Re: Re: DHCP Question

2011-06-14 Thread jhall


From : Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com
To : jh...@socket.net
Subject : Re: DHCP Question
Date : Tue, 14 Jun 2011 11:28:00 -0700

 You want:
 
option dhcp-parameter-request-list uint16;
 
  This  option,  when  sent  by the client, specifies which 
options the 
  client wishes the server to  return.Normally,  in  the  ISC 
 DHCP 
  client, this is done using the request statement.   If this 
option is 
  not specified by the client, the DHCP  server  will  normally  
return 
  every  option  that  is  valid in scope and that fits into the 
reply. 
  When this option is specified on the server, the server  
returns  the 
  specified  options.This  can  be  used  to force a client 
to take 
  options that it hasn't requested, and it can also be used  to  
tailor 
  the response of the DHCP server for clients that may need a 
more lim- 
  ited set of options than those the server would normally 
return. 
 
 Regards,
 -- 
 -Chuck

They are not using the option for the IRC Server, but to point to the 
nodes where the Virutal Desktops are. 

Thank you for all  your help.  That did the trick!


Jay
Thank you!  That did the trick.

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Re: mysql_connect error

2011-06-14 Thread Glenn McCalley
- Original Message - 
From: Rodrigo Gonzalez rjgonz...@estrads.com.ar
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Glenn McCalley 
techl...@mail.bnetmd.net

Cc: glar...@freebsd.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: mysql_connect error



On Tuesday, June 14, 2011 12:56:11 PM Glenn McCalley wrote:

Rodrigo,
The php.ini path and file match the phpinfo page.

However, php -m does NOT report a mysql module, and I get the same
Undefined symbol error our of lubmysqlclient.so.16 that I mentioned in my
answer to Greg's post.

The line extension=mysql.so IS is the extensions.ini file.

Thanks,
Glenn.



I would start reompiling mysql client libraries and then php-mysql 
extension

again

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OK!
Something new!
Rebuilt everything I could think of and no joy.

The genesis of this thing is a php page that is executed out of cron as a 
command.  It worked great until mysql 5.5 installed.  I've been testing from 
the command line.


Then had a brainstorm, and ran the php page from the address line of a 
browser instead of the command line and it works.  Should of thought of that 
test before.


So why is it OK thru a browser but not as a command?  That leads me to 
believe it's not mysql_connect's problem at all but the php cli isn't 
working properly.


Thoughts?  ...and thanks folks for all your help.

Glenn.



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Thunderbird 3.1.10 Connection Refused

2011-06-14 Thread Unga
Hi all

I need to access an IMAP server at mail.server.com:45000. And the server uses a 
self-signed certificate.

Since it is not possible to add an exemption, I have imported the mail server 
pem file.

But the Thunderbird still complain Could not connect to mail server Acct-Name; 
the connection was refused.

It doesn't come to the stage to ask the password.

Server logs doesn't show any drop packets from the firewall.

How could I solve this problem?

Many thanks in advance.

Unga



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Re: Thunderbird 3.1.10 Connection Refused

2011-06-14 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Jun 14, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Unga wrote:
 I need to access an IMAP server at mail.server.com:45000. And the server uses 
 a self-signed certificate.

The registered port for IMAPS is 993/tcp.  Unless you have very good reasons 
for running IMAP server on a non-standard port, you should run it on the 
default location.

Anyway:

   openssl s_client -connect mail.server.com:45000

...is likely to be informative.

Regards,
-- 
-Chuck

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Re: Virtualbox on 8.2 64-bit (cont)

2011-06-14 Thread Mario Lobo
On Monday 13 June 2011 21:14:05 Rob wrote:
 On 6/9/11 4:55 PM, Mario Lobo wrote:
  On Thursday 09 June 2011 10:49:37 Rob wrote:
  On 6/6/11 8:39 PM, Mario Lobo wrote:
  On Monday 06 June 2011 17:56:53 Rob wrote:
  I was attempting to install virtualbox on my 8.2-p2 64-bit system this
  weekend, and hit a rather curious situation.  The pre-packaged version
  of virtualbox retrievable by pkg_add is 3.2.12 (which looks in
  ports/amd64/packages-8.2-release).  Poking around on the ftp server, I
  see that packages-8.1-release also has a 3.x version, but
  packages-8-stable has the latest 4.0.8.
  
  I went to look in ports, which contains 4.0.8, and build it myself but
  I got an error saying I need to have the 32-bit libraries installed
  in order to build virtualbox.
  
  So, my question is 2-fold:
  1) What is the reason the 64-bit pre-packaged version of virtualbox is
  still at the 3.x version?  Would there be a problem with installing
  the packages (virtualbox and kernel module) from packages-8-stable?
  
  2) How do I build virtualbox 4.0.8 on a 64-bit system w/o the 32-bit
  libs.  Is that possible?  Searching around has produced old e-mail
  threads indicating this was a problem as of 2 or so years ago with the
  3.x release.  If it's not possible to build w/o the 32-bit libs, what
  do I need to install?
  
  Rob
  
  You need to rebuild your kernel with
  
  
  
  options   COMPAT_FREEBSD32# Compatible with i386 binaries
  
  
  
  included.
  
  And as per the port's error message:
  
  cd /usr/src; make build32 install32; /etc/rc.d/ldconfig restart
  
  I noticed that when I tried to build the ports, but I don't have
  anything in /usr/src and no information was given as to what
  packages/src I needed to install.  I'd like to avoid diverging from the
  stock release kernel for upgrade simplicity.  What exactly does that do?
  
 Will it introduce upgrade complexity (ie will I have to upgrade these
  
  libs before I upgrade the kernel or some such)?
  
  Rob
  
  To remain with the same kernel you installed, you must install the source
  tree from the same CD/DVD you used for installation.
  
  You will have to run sysinstal and go to
  
  Configure  Do post-install configuration of FreeBSD
  
  then
  
  Distributions   Install additional distribution sets
  
  then mark
  
  [ ]  src   Sources for everything
  
  Choose the CDROM as installation media. After that you'll have all the
  sources on your HD and can proceed to the compilation of the 32 libs.
  
  If the sources are from the same CD you installed the system, they will
  be in sync with your kernel. No upgrade issues.
 
 What is that command doing though?  It's building what from src?  What
 is the output of build32?  I assume it's not a kernel.
 

No. Its JUST the 32 bit libraries.

make build32 builds the 32bit libraries. It simply outputs the compilation 
process.

make install32 installs the 32bit libraries. Same thing but for the install 
process.



 Also, do you know the difference between pre-built packages on the
 freebsd ftp server in packages-8.2-release vs packages-8-stable?
 

Well, IF you installed the source tree from the SAME cd  which you installed 
the FreeBSD you have now, there won't be any problems. You said you want to 
keep the stock kernel you installed so I assume that you haven't updated 
anything from the internet. You MUST install the source tree from the same 
DVD/CD from where you installed your running kernel!

The diference is that the packages are meant to run on their respective 
version. I believe that packages that don't rely on a specific thing of one 
version should run without problems on both. But this is not normal or even 
needed at all, specially because it is so easy to bring everything uptodate to 
the same version.


-- 
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http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br
FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio YET!!] (99% winblows FREE)
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Re: FreeBSD on IBM 3630

2011-06-14 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Peter Toth wrote:
 Anyone is running IBM 3630 out there with FreeBSD?

Short:  Try Harder ;-)
Medium: If one ask a better question, one gets better answers.
Long:   You may improve responses by adding eg:
- Why you want to know
Thinking of buying or selling ?
Got it working  thinking of adding to compatabiity list ?  
Or ... ?
- If you have one, try it   attach dmesg or error message etc.
- Summarise hardware, 
at least attach a URL such as:
http://www.highlander-estore.com/products.asp?partno=737742G
  or find some better URL eg from:

http://www.google.com/#hl=ensugexp=ldymlspq=dmesg%20%22ibm%203630%22%20freebsdxhr=tq=+%22IBM+3630%22cp=0pf=psclient=psysource=hpaq=faqi=aql=oq=+%22IBM+3630%22+FreeBSDpbx=1bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.fp=7ff7d408b5d36764biw=1560bih=836bs=1
  Listing chipsets/ cards usually helps.

Cheers,
Julian
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Re: Virtualbox on 8.2 64-bit (cont)

2011-06-14 Thread Rob

On 6/14/11 8:06 AM, Ondrej Majerech wrote:

On 06/09/2011 15:49, Rob wrote:

On 6/6/11 8:39 PM, Mario Lobo wrote:

You need to rebuild your kernel with



options COMPAT_FREEBSD32 # Compatible with i386 binaries



included.


I noticed that when I tried to build the ports, but I don't have
anything in /usr/src and no information was given as to what
packages/src I needed to install. I'd like to avoid diverging from the
stock release kernel for upgrade simplicity. What exactly does that do?
Will it introduce upgrade complexity (ie will I have to upgrade these
libs before I upgrade the kernel or some such)?


Needless to say, that option seems to be enabled in GENERIC:

[starlight] ~  grep COMPAT_FREEBSD32 /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC
options COMPAT_FREEBSD32 # Compatible with i386 binaries

Also I don't remember having to issue make build32 install32 or anything
of that sort.

You do need to have the FreeBSD source tree installed on your system,
though. Did you try just fetching the source tree without building from
it and then trying to build VirtualBox again?

~ Ondra


Is there a pkg_add command for installing the source tree, or should I 
just use sysinstall?


Rob
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Re: Virtualbox on 8.2 64-bit (cont)

2011-06-14 Thread Rob

On 6/14/11 4:52 PM, Mario Lobo wrote:

Also, do you know the difference between pre-built packages on the
freebsd ftp server in packages-8.2-release vs packages-8-stable?



Well, IF you installed the source tree from the SAME cd  which you installed
the FreeBSD you have now, there won't be any problems. You said you want to
keep the stock kernel you installed so I assume that you haven't updated
anything from the internet. You MUST install the source tree from the same
DVD/CD from where you installed your running kernel!

The diference is that the packages are meant to run on their respective
version. I believe that packages that don't rely on a specific thing of one
version should run without problems on both. But this is not normal or even
needed at all, specially because it is so easy to bring everything uptodate to
the same version.


I installed from an 8.2 boot only CD (ie network install) and have since 
patched up to 8.2-p2.  I assume I can just run sysinstall from my system 
and pull the src tree from the ftp server?


When 8.3 comes out, what do I need to do to update the src tree?  This 
may be documented in the UPDATING docs, but having never messed with the 
source tree I haven't had cause to look.  If so just tell me to go read 
the respective doc. :)


Rob
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Re: FreeBSD on IBM 3630

2011-06-14 Thread Chris Hill

On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, Julian H. Stacey wrote:


Peter Toth wrote:

Anyone is running IBM 3630 out there with FreeBSD?


Short:  Try Harder ;-)
Medium: If one ask a better question, one gets better answers.


Well said.

I misread the subject at first, and thought the OP was asking about 
running FreeBSD on an IBM 360  =:^O



Long:   You may improve responses by adding eg:
- Why you want to know
Thinking of buying or selling ?
Got it working  thinking of adding to compatabiity list ?
Or ... ?
- If you have one, try it   attach dmesg or error message etc.
- Summarise hardware,
at least attach a URL such as:
http://www.highlander-estore.com/products.asp?partno=737742G
 or find some better URL eg from:
   
http://www.google.com/#hl=ensugexp=ldymlspq=dmesg%20%22ibm%203630%22%20freebsdxhr=tq=+%22IBM+3630%22cp=0pf=psclient=psysource=hpaq=faqi=aql=oq=+%22IBM+3630%22+FreeBSDpbx=1bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.fp=7ff7d408b5d36764biw=1560bih=836bs=1
 Listing chipsets/ cards usually helps.

Cheers,
Julian
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Re: Virtualbox on 8.2 64-bit (cont)

2011-06-14 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Jun 14, 2011, at 3:40 PM, Rob wrote:
 When 8.3 comes out, what do I need to do to update the src tree?  This may be 
 documented in the UPDATING docs, but having never messed with the source tree 
 I haven't had cause to look.  If so just tell me to go read the respective 
 doc. :)

Read the fine Handbook:

  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading.html

Regards,
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Re: FreeBSD on IBM 3630

2011-06-14 Thread Peter Toth
On 06/15/11 10:34, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
 Peter Toth wrote:
 Anyone is running IBM 3630 out there with FreeBSD?
 Short:Try Harder ;-)
 Medium:   If one ask a better question, one gets better answers.
 Long: You may improve responses by adding eg:
 - Why you want to know
   Thinking of buying or selling ?
   Got it working  thinking of adding to compatabiity list ?  
   Or ... ?
 - If you have one, try it   attach dmesg or error message etc.
 - Summarise hardware, 
   at least attach a URL such as:
   http://www.highlander-estore.com/products.asp?partno=737742G
   or find some better URL eg from:
 
 http://www.google.com/#hl=ensugexp=ldymlspq=dmesg%20%22ibm%203630%22%20freebsdxhr=tq=+%22IBM+3630%22cp=0pf=psclient=psysource=hpaq=faqi=aql=oq=+%22IBM+3630%22+FreeBSDpbx=1bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.fp=7ff7d408b5d36764biw=1560bih=836bs=1
   Listing chipsets/ cards usually helps.
   
 Cheers,
 Julian
Thanks for the advise! Will try to be more specific next time. Just
wanted a quick answer to a quick question :) ...way too busy lately...
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