Endianness
I'm trying to create a port of an application which only works on little endian systems and I'm trying to figure out how to set ONLY_FOR_ARCHS. Wikipedia says PowerPC, Sparc, and IA64 are bi-endian and the OS chooses the mode. I'm not familiar with these platforms - I'm sure it has been answered somewhere, but I can't find it - which FreeBSD archs are little/big endian? Thanks. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Endianness
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 1:51 PM, David Kelly dke...@hiwaay.net wrote: On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 11:29:21PM +0200, Kaya Saman wrote: David Kelly wrote: On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:51:00PM -0800, Rob Farmer wrote: [...] I'm sure it has been answered somewhere, but I can't find it - which FreeBSD archs are little/big endian? Thanks. i386 is little endian. Would expect ia64 to be the same. SPARC is big endian. Or at least it used to be. Power4,5,6 are all big endian too if I'm not mistaken. Correct me if I'm wrong but anything based around the CISC architecture is big endian. Believe the O.P. is asking, What endian is FreeBSD on these architectures? If I was making an application that needed endian information then I'd look in arpa/inet.h and machine/endian.h to discover what I was running on. Ah - thanks for the pointer - I was looking at /src/sys/sys/endian.h rather than the machine specific versions, which is why I didn't get anything out of it. For the archives, it appears that amd64, arm, i386, ia64, and pc98 are little endian. -- Rob Farmer -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Endianness
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Lowell Gilbert freebsd-questions-lo...@be-well.ilk.org wrote: Kaya Saman samank...@netscape.net writes: David Kelly wrote: On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:51:00PM -0800, Rob Farmer wrote: I'm trying to create a port of an application which only works on little endian systems and I'm trying to figure out how to set ONLY_FOR_ARCHS. Wikipedia says PowerPC, Sparc, and IA64 are bi-endian and the OS chooses the mode. I'm not familiar with these platforms - I'm sure it has been answered somewhere, but I can't find it - which FreeBSD archs are little/big endian? Thanks. i386 is little endian. Would expect ia64 to be the same. SPARC is big endian. Or at least it used to be. Power4,5,6 are all big endian too if I'm not mistaken. Correct me if I'm wrong but anything based around the CISC architecture is big endian. As the original poster observed, PowerPC, Sparc and IA64 are all capable of being used in either endian setting. I checked endian.h, and it looks as though FreeBSD uses Sparc as big-endian, IA64 as little-endian, and PowerPC as whatever it picks up from gcc (probably big-endian, since the architecture does funny things with alignment in little-endian mode. My best advice, though, is to suggest that Mr. Farmer shouldn't assume that the application will work anywhere without actually trying it. Well, the upstream author states in the documentation that there are endian problems and to use it only on little endian machines. I don't have any hardware that is non-i386/amd64 and about a year ago when I tried to cross build to powerpc in tinderbox it didn't work, so I can't really do that. -- Rob Farmer -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: which java on 8-release
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Steve Franks bahamasfra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Tried to get any permutation of XYZ-jre or XYZ-jdk installed on 8-rc1 and gave up. I see still no diablo for 8. What is the best way forward (and how am I so dense that no one else has even asked this question, I must be on the wrong track, no?) I saw a few posts about having to install diablo in order to build openjdk, so that's out too...what is the 'magic' port that people use? I just want to run all the apps that need java, I don't plan to write any java on my own. Diablo should work on 8 with the misc/compat7x port - I'm running diablo-jdk16 on -current without any problems. -- Rob Farmer Thanks, Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Howto run privileged commands on login/logout
On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Erik Norgaard norga...@locolomo.org wrote: Hi: I'm playing around with diskless operation. I'd like to be able to run privileged commands when a user logins or logs out: - on login, nfs mount the user's home directory (ok, not critical, I can mount /home) - on logout a system reboot to clean up any temporary files left from the session. Not sure if it would work or not but you could try setting /etc/csh.logout setuid root (or whatever). However, IIRC, there are security concerns with setuid scripts (I remember previous list discussions about setuid shell scripts but don't remember what the verdict was). -- Rob Farmer Is this possible, without messing arround with sudo or adding users to wheel or operator groups? Thanks, Erik -- Erik Nørgaard Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 http://www.locolomo.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: EVOLUTION a, slow start, SOLVED
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 6:55 AM, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi lenzi.ser...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all.. Finallly I got the problem with evolution on FreeBSD solved. Happens that evolution is very slow, on startup, and consumes an HUGE amount of CPU (system), on startup, making it almost unuseable for multi user systems... Thanks for looking into this - I've observed the slow startup with Evolution too. Have you submitted a PR with the patch? That's the best way to get it reviewed and included in the tree. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Compiling Linux into Kernel
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Jason Garrett kinged...@gmail.com wrote: I know the usual way of loading the linux module and configuring it in rc.conf, but can it be compiled directly into the kernel? If so, what would the line for it look like? options COMPAT_LINUX or if you are on amd64 options COMPAT_LINUX32 You can compile in the linprocfs module with options LINPROCFS See /usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES and /usr/src/sys/$ARCH/conf/NOTES to find lists of all available kernel options. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: can't ping localhost
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Sam Fourman Jr. sfour...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk wrote: I misconfigured my system somehow, so now I can't ping localhost: # ping localhost PING localhost (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes ping: sendto: No route to host ping: sendto: No route to host ^C what is the output of uname -a ? I believe -current has a issue where you can not ping localhost atm That's correct. Try the following patch: http://people.freebsd.org/~qingli/route.h.diff -- Rob Farmer Sam Fourman Jr. Fourman Networks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: HAL's demise
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Edwin L. Culp W. edwinlc...@gmail.com wrote: Sounded like a good idea to me but ;) pkg_deinstall hal-0.5.14_12 --- Deinstalling 'hal-0.5.14_12' pkg_delete: package 'hal-0.5.14_12' is required by these other packages That list is recursive - kdelibs4 depends on hal, then other stuff depends on it. If it could be configured to work without hal, most likely the rest of the list would be just fine. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Backtick versus $()
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Thorsten Glaser t...@mirbsd.org wrote: Andres Perera andres.p at zoho.com writes: mandated by posix and reality usually aren't in sync, as i'm sure you know by In this case, closely enough. now since you pointed out solaris It’s just /bin/sh on long outdated versions (newer ones, both from Horracle and not, have ATT ksh93 there instead). No need to use it, anyway. sh scripts can usually depend on a POSIX shell (and it’s sensible to do so). Some operating environments have guaranteed that (MirBSD even guarantees mksh but Debian Policy §10.4 explicitly states POSIX plus a few extensions). And AFAIK all FreeBSD® shells have it. Have you used the default FreeBSD shell (tcsh) recently? [rfarmer@sapphire] ~ echo $(date ) Illegal variable name. [rfarmer@sapphire] ~ echo `date` Thu Feb 24 12:59:00 PST 2011 [rfarmer@sapphire] ~ uname -a FreeBSD sapphire.predatorlabs.net 9.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #0 r218838: Sat Feb 19 03:39:34 PST 2011 rfar...@sapphire.predatorlabs.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SAPPHIRE amd64 And I read the article you posted - basically it seemed to say some keyboards are screwed up, so rather than fix them would everyone stop using this character please. I have a good feeling what the success rate of that will be. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Backtick versus $()
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Thorsten Glaser t...@mirbsd.org wrote: Rob Farmer rfarmer at predatorlabs.net writes: Have you used the default FreeBSD shell (tcsh) recently? tcsh is not a shell. Well, it’s an interactive command line interpreter, not a bad one compared to what else is offered at that, but… (New) people will still copy and paste commands into an interactive tcsh, so it is a good idea to be compatible when posting stuff to the mailing lists, etc. if possible. There was something on the ports@ list a while back, about PRs for new ports, where this came up. http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/ I've read it before. Who hasn't? And I find it unconvincing, since it is just a list of shortcomings. If those shortcomings don't affect me, why do I care? -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Backtick versus $()
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Andres Perera andre...@zoho.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 8:30 PM, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://chipsquips.com | http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com btw, would you stop putting ads on your signature? it's annoying LOL - how hypocritical. This thread was four days dead then suddenly two people show up and start pushing this mksh shell, which seems to be part of some obscure OpenBSD fork. If anyone is advertising it's you. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: setting up svn server - Connection refused
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 1:23 AM, Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk wrote: I'm learning how to set up svn server. I've read through several sections of http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/ Here's what I do: ZEEV svnadmin create /home/mexas/zzz ZEEV svnlook info zzz 2011-02-25 09:15:28 + (Fri, 25 Feb 2011) 0 ZEEV svnserve -d ZEEV ps ax | grep svnserve 66952 ?? Ss 0:00.01 /usr/local/bin/svnserve.bin -d ZEEV mkdir /home/mexas/zzz.work ZEEV cd /home/mexas/zzz.work/ When I try to connect to the svn server, I get this: ZEEV svn co svn://localhost/home/mexas/zzz . svn: Can't connect to host 'localhost': Network is unreachable ZEEV svn co svn://10.10.10.14/home/mexas/zzz . svn: Can't connect to host '10.10.10.14': Connection refused ZEEV ifconfig em1 em1: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500 options=209bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM,WOL_MAGIC ether 00:13:21:5b:05:1d inet 10.10.10.14 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.10.10.255 inet6 fe80::213:21ff:fe5b:51d%em1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5 nd6 options=29PERFORMNUD,IFDISABLED,AUTO_LINKLOCAL media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex) status: active ZEEV I get exactly the same Connection refused if I connect from another host. I turned the firewall off completely. What could be the problems? From the rc script (which would probably be better than starting it manually): # Note: # svnserve bind per default at the ipv6 address! # If you want svnserve binding at ipv4 address, you have # to use option 'svnserve_flags' with --listen-host parameter Have you tried something like this in rc.conf: svnserve_flags=-d --listen-port=3690 --listen-host 1.2.3.4 Also check the other variables in that file - you need to specify where the repo is (-r), the user to run as, etc. svn+ssh avoids all of this because there is no sever - it just executes svn in the user's ssh session and manipulate the repo's files directly (this allows users to accidentally or intentionally trash up the repo, so svnserve is safer if you don't fully trust all your committers. Plus you have to watch for permission and umask issues with svn+ssh). -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Coldfusion, Postgres and Java under FreeBSD
On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 11:36 PM, n j nin...@gmail.com wrote: openjdk-7.0.122_1 Java Development Kit 7 Long description : Sources : Changes : Download vs. openoffice.org-2.1.0 Integrated wordprocessor/dbase/spreadsheet/drawing/chart/browser Long description | Package | Sources | Main Web Site In any way, I stand corrected. I should probably start testdriving OpenJDK to see if it can successfully replace diablo-jdk. I would recommend openjdk6 unless you have a specific need for 7. It is getting a lot more attention (for example, the web plugin from IcedTea is available in 6). -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: post-installation of CDDL files
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Alexander Best arun...@freebsd.org wrote: hi there, my current world does not include any CDDL files, because i had WITHOUT_CDDL in my src.conf. now i'd like to build world with CDDL files (in order to use dtrace). what are the necessary steps for doing so? i've removed the WITHOUT_CDDL part from my src.conf, but targets buildworld and toolchain both fail: make: don't know how to make /usr/lib/libctf.a. Stop cheers. alex -- a13x ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Install it manually. Go to src/cddl/lib/libctf and make obj make depends make make install Then buildworld will work. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
device urtw is unknown
Hi, I am trying to build a custom kernel with the urtw device on 8.0 beta 1 amd64. According to the man page, I should add device urtw to my config (just Generic plus this) and it should work. But, I get: config: Error: device urtw is unknown What am I missing? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: make release custom kernel conf not found
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Rick Miller vmil...@hostileadmin.com wrote: Hi All, I am performing a `make release` to build a new release with a custom kernel. The `make release` fails with the following error: cd /usr/src/release/..; make TARGET_ARCH=amd64 TARGET=amd64 KERNCONF=MYKERNEL kernel DESTDIR=/R/stage/kernels KODIR=/MYKERNEL ERROR: Missing kernel configuration file(s) (MYKERNEL). *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/release. + umount /dev *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/release. I have the kernel config at /root/kernels/MYKERNEL and /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/MYKERNEL is a symlink to the kernel config. The applicable environment variables are set in my .profile as follows: BUILDNAME=8.2-RELEASE-MYKERNEL-1.1 CHROOTDIR=/app/release CVSROOT=/home/cvs EXTPORTSDIR=/usr/ports EXTSRCDIR=/usr/src KERNELS=GENERIC MYKERNEL MAKE_DVD=YES NODOC=YES NO_FLOPPIES=YES I am unsure how to get `make release` to realize the location of the kernel config. Also, I notice that in the command to make the kernel, DESTDIR is set to /R/stage/kernels while the CHROOTDIR (and the location where I want the release to be built) is /app/release. I am wondering if someone knows how I may resolve the issue so I can get the release built. I appreciate any advice and feedback. Thanks. The kernel is built inside the chroot, so all paths are really /app/release/whatever. Your symlink points to /app/release/root/kernels/MYKERNEL. It will be easiest to get rid of the symlink and copy the actual file into your EXTSRCDIR before starting the make release; alternately you could use the LOCAL_PATCHES or LOCAL_SCRIPT variables to import it. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: make release custom kernel conf not found
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Rick Miller vmil...@hostileadmin.com wrote: Thanks Rob... I put the kernel conf file in the source tree as opposed to linking to it and it certainly did compile the custom kernel. What confuses me (not that I expect you to have the answer) is that Chapter 9 of the handbook has a tip that recommends keeping the kernel config in /root/kernels and symlinking to it from the source tree. If it doesn't work, why is there a tip recommending this practice? I think the idea is to avoid accidentally deleting it - sometimes people who get weird build errors are told to delete /usr/src and /usr/obj, to make sure everything is in a consistent state. The symlink will work fine for normal builds, which is what the handbook covers, but the release building process installs a new copy of the base system and then runs within it, to try and ensure a completely stock environment. Any changes you made to the main system (make.conf, custom kernels, etc.) are intentionally ignored. As Lowell points out, the right way to do this is make either a patch or a script to add your changes and have the release framework apply it. Copying it in is the quick and dirty fix. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Querying a cvsup server
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: I'm not looking for a specific version of a file, but trying to find out whether any arbitrary cvsup mirror is current with the main repository. Not version control, but network monitoring. http://www.mavetju.org/unix/freebsd-mirrors/cvsup-stats-global.php -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Re[2]: newfs create to little inodes
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote: Something about -your- installation is causing you to run out of inodes. This is a release engineering issue in 9.0, not just his installation. The defaults are screwed up. See bin/162659. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: why is the PHP stuff line off by default in ports/lang/php5?
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 08:00, d...@safeport.com wrote: I think that response was not all that unreasonable. I'm not sure if you are referring to me or ale here. 3) I think (proof left to the reader) there is an apache/php package. There's not. There's no way to run pkg_add -r whatever and get the apache module (either that or it is poorly named and not found with a search). And, as I understand it, at one point there was, then it changed. My suggestion was to add it back via a slave port (say lang/php5-apache). This would be *in addition* to the existing lang/php5 port and everyone who is worried about unnecessary dependency bloat, security, etc. would be free to keep using that. Supposedly, there is a reason that shipping a binary package for this is impossible, despite the fact that every major Linux distribution does (and thus millions of web servers run this way) and supposedly there are many detailed descriptions of this reason in the list archives, though I can't find any. Adding the slave port was a good faith suggestion about how to improve the situation to meet everyone's needs. I feel it is rather dismissive and somewhat rude just say The answer is simply 'no' without any explanation. If it has been discussed so many times (for the record, I have been subscribed to this list for two years and have never seen such a thread), then it shouldn't be too hard to post a link. And if the maintainer is too busy with other work to do that, then, as I said, don't reply and let someone else explain it. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: rebuilding world - is chflags -R noschg * necessary?
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 04:02, Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk wrote: The fbsd manual states in section 24.7 Rebuilding world: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html in subsection 24.7.6 Remove /usr/obj *quote* Some files below /usr/obj may have the immutable flag set (see chflags(1) for more information) which must be removed first. # cd /usr/obj # chflags -R noschg * *end quote* I've never seen a file under /usr/obj/ with immutable flag set. Why would there be object files with immutable flag set? Is this step really necessary? It will happen on amd64 if you build the lib32 bits (i386 compatibility libraries). -- Rob Farmer many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 14:46, Randal L. Schwartz mer...@stonehenge.com wrote: I understand that entirely. Which is why it would be reasonable (and downright ethical) to ensure that every FreeBSD integrator be made well aware of this restriction. It hadn't occurred to *me* for example to think that FreeBSD might be restricted. And I hadn't seen any prominent disclaimers. Why rely on a very very buried notice? If your business model involves importing/exporting large collections of material which you did not create, and further more do not outright own, but are licensed to use under certain conditions, then you need to have both a lawyer and an accountant review your setup for any potential issues. There are entire college degrees in international business and it is folly to think that all the ins and outs of a particular scenario will be readily apparent. A competent review would turn up this license clause and would give you advice on what to do about it. I don't think complaining that you weren't aware of the license terms before exporting is valid. Furthermore, this isn't really a license issue, but more of a issue of federal law. If you are in the US, these laws regarding what may be exported to where always apply, regardless of what the license says. Making the license more visible may be a good idea, but doesn't materially change the situation any. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 20:04, Michael Powell nightre...@hotmail.com wrote: I was under the impression that the most onerous of these export rules and restrictions applied to crypto technology. If this is so, what I don't quite grasp is what do crypto export restrictions have to do with acpi? Is acpi a copyrighted, patented, or trademark otherwise owned by some entity? Quite possibly so as it is in contrib. I just have no idea who might own it. Or how it would fall afoul of crypto export restrictions. Looking forward to enlightenment. :-) I'm not a lawyer either, so take all this with a grain of salt. Basically, there are two reasons the US will block an export, which you can read about at: http://www.bis.doc.gov/licensing/exportingbasics.htm 1) The export is considered dangerous for one reason or another, and needs to be licensed so the government can keep track of who is getting it and why they want it. Examples include military equipment, nuclear equipment, controlled substances, firearms, etc. Crypto is defined as a munition and is restricted for this reason. There are a lot of opinions about whether this is right, but it has held up in court. 2) The destination is designated as supporting terrorist activities or is embargoed for political reasons (socialist/totalitarian government - Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Sudan, and Syria). Most of the people in these countries don't have access to a computer and the rights to install whatever they want on it, so this is targeted at government officials. As such, you are correct that for the vast majority of cases, the ACPI code shouldn't have problems or need a license. The biggest legal risk I can see is if ftp.freebsd.org and such allow people in the embargoed countries to download code - I've seen a brief reference saying Sourceforge was forced to IP ban these. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 20:38, Gonzalo Nemmi gne...@gmail.com wrote: As a lawyer, no matter how much I review your set up, it´s a _fact_ that a license place in a place like /usr/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica/hardware/hwsleep.c, that is to say, lost amongs a gazillion files: _will_ scape any review. Furthermore, you can count on legal advise about the thing you tell you lawyer to review, but if you ignore _what_ you want to get reviewed: you can´t count on anyone knowing it for you. I would assume that such a review would involve extracting all the licenses in the source tree, eliminating the duplicates, and having those reviewed. I'm saying I don't find the oh I missed that one argument convincing, because if there is the possibility of missing a license, then you aren't looking closely enough in the first place. This license is not just in src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica/hardware/hwsleep.c - it is in all the files within the acpica contrib directory, plus the upstream vendor states that it applies to the entire tarball on their website. You should reasonably expect that each piece of software (ie directory) within contrib may be under a different license and needs to be reviewed. Making the license more visible may be a good idea, but doesn't materially change the situation any. It does by making it visible and thus telling potential exporters/re-exporters watch out for this one. Ask your lawyer about it´s terms and conditions. What I meant by doesn't materially change the situation any is that everything exported from the US should be considered under export restrictions unless proven otherwise. Jung-uk Kim says: Historically FreeBSD never touched the license header. However, I am going to do it next time to avoid confusions. ( http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-October/222451.html ) I don't think this makes a bit of difference (it fact it would be somewhat misleading) since the export restrictions are a valid law and dropping clauses from the license doesn't change that - are you saying I'm wrong here? -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 03:23, Gonzalo Nemmi gne...@gmail.com wrote: Im saying what I already said. And yet, you haven't really addressed my core point. Consider the following scenario: I write a tutorial on how to use GCC (a program originally written in the US by a US citizen and stills recieves significant contributions from US citizens) to compile programs for targeting ICBM's. I burn my tutorial plus a copy of GCC to a CD and ship it to Supreme Leader Kim Jong-il's residence, then he sends me $50,000 cash in exchange. The GPL has no problems whatsoever with this (it never addresses exports, says there shall be no discrimination against certain fields of endeavor, and the added services and support sidestep any sales issues). Yet, do you really think this would be a-ok with customs? There are various laws that covered the situation, in addition to the license - for example, there are restrictions on transporting more than $9,999 worth of paper currency across the US border in a single transaction (even just to Canada). My point is that the US export restrictions apply to the Intel ACPI code, they apply to most of the GNU toolchain, they apply to work Yahoo has paid people to do, etc. FreeBSD, like it or not, is largely under the jurisdiction of US export law. You are saying that there should be a disclaimer telling people to watch out for this one. Ask your lawyer about it's terms and conditions. People shouldn't be watching out for a particular license, but rather the broader implications of distributing stuff internationally, which, due to cold-war era laws, can involve a significant prison sentence if done wrong. If you are interested in adding a disclaimer, consider the following one from Red Hat's legal department, which covers the *entire* distribution: By clicking on and downloading Fedora, you agree to comply with the following terms and conditions: Fedora software and technical information is subject to the U.S. Export Administration Regulations and other U.S. and foreign law, and may not be exported or re-exported to certain countries (currently Cuba, Iran, Iraq, North Korea, Sudan, and Syria) or to persons or entities prohibited from receiving U.S. exports (including those (a) on the Bureau of Industry and Security Denied Parties List or Entity List, (b) on the Office of Foreign Assets Control list of Specially Designated Nationals and Blocked Persons, and (c) involved with missile technology or nuclear, chemical or biological weapons). You may not download Fedora software or technical information if you are located in one of these countries, or otherwise affected by these restrictions. You may not provide Fedora software or technical information to individuals or entities located in one of these countries or otherwise affected by these restrictions. You are also responsible for compliance with foreign law requirements applicable to the import and use of Fedora software and technical information. Perhaps there are loopholes (I export to Canada, then a Canadian exports to somewhere else) but this doesn't change the situation for people in the US, like the OP. You are talking about reviewing the licenses, but exporting is also matter of criminal law. If I consulted a lawyer about doing such an export, it is reasonable to expect that they would bring this up, rather than just summarize license terms on a one-off basis. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:19, Gonzalo Nemmi gne...@gmail.com wrote: If you have a point, then there´s no point in me addressing your point .. unless you are asking me for legal advice .. Should that be the case, just let me know; I charge by the hour .. no pro bono. Seeing as your messages says things like El 07/10/2010 and Rob Farmer escribió and you seem unwilling to actually talk about US law, I'm curious to know where you attended law school and what states you are licensed to practice in, since you seem to be offering paid professional services. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Like it or not, Theo is having a good laugh ..
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 10:31, Ian Smith smi...@nimnet.asn.au wrote: We've had a clear explanation of why it's still there - an historical oversight at worst, pre present levels of paranoia and litigiousness - by Jung-uk Kim, who's been importing Intel ACPICA code into FreeBSD for five or so years, among large works on other core aspects of FreeBSD. He stated that it will be dealt with in the next import of the code. End of story? Let facts get in the way of such a splendid beat-up?] What do you mean by dealt with? Just drop clauses from the license? Has someone who legally represents the copyright holder approved that in writing? If anyone finds any State Secrets or vaguely crypto code in Intel's free (in both senses) ACPICA code implementation of open ACPI specifications, I'm sure we'll get to hear about it. Meanwhile, please shut the FUD up. Export restrictions apply to more than crypto, and removing the license terms saying this doesn't actually remove the restrictions - they are a law. The only people spreading FUD here are those who are have an anti-American attitude and are unwilling to accept that since key parts of FreeBSD are contributions by people in the US and are then exported, it just might actually be affected by what US lawmakers say about exports. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Like it or not, Theo is having a good laugh ..
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 21:47, Jarrod Slick jarrod...@gmail.com wrote: @rob, Kinda wish you would make a video wherein you read your above statement from a teleprompter with a green-screened American flag billowing in the background. You might want to add in a statement about your deep respect and admiration for the troops, though. To add in even more of that good ol' fashioned American [self-]righteousness you could even, in a senseless spat of litigiousness, DMCA yourself and have the video removed from whatever third-party site you decide to post it on. Oh, and disclaimer . . . I'm an American. Anyhow, I'll go back to lurking. You can imply that I'm a nationalistic jackass all you like, but the fact still remains that nobody has presented an argument (well reasoned and coherent or otherwise) for why FreeBSD wouldn't be subject to the EAR or why changing the license for this code would make one bit of difference (beyond public relations). -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Like it or not, Theo is having a good laugh ..
On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 05:30, Henry Olyer henry.ol...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure which writer said it, but whoever it is who started that paragraph with Kinda wish you... you sir are the problem. Not just a problem for us FreeBSDer's, but also for American's. While we are analyzing people's behavior, please don't top-post. You probably don't see yourself that way. I understand that. But what you are doing is surrilous. That's when instead of making the points underlying Surrilous isn't an English word, nor an obvious typo of one, so I have no idea what you mean here. your position you resort to name calling and bad mouthing. Any name calling I may have done was only after many other people did it first - the only difference is every message I've sent has the list CC'd. Disagree? Well, re-read what you wrote. See what I mean? I *still* see no explaination of why the EAR doesn't apply or why I am wrong - just tangents about my world view, etc. The only other person who actually addressed the issue of US export laws, Robert Bonomi, largely agreed with me. Is this an overly restrictive and outdated law? Probably, but it still exists. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Like it or not, Theo is having a good laugh ..
On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 10:06, b. f. bf1...@googlemail.com wrote: We're not going to resolve these problems in this thread. Certainly. I will drop this issue - in fact, I largely did so after my conversation with Gonzalo Nemmi; however, people kept sending me stuff off list so I felt compelled to address some of it. (For example, the one about making a video and DMCAing it was only re-posted to the list after it was sent to me and I publicly replied). -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Like it or not, Theo is having a good laugh ..
On Oct 9, 2010, at 1:07 PM, Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote: On Sat, 9 Oct 2010 09:47:04 -0700 Rob Farmer rfar...@predatorlabs.net articulated: On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 05:30, Henry Olyer henry.ol...@gmail.com wrote: Surrilous isn't an English word, nor an obvious typo of one, so I have no idea what you mean here. surrilous (adj.) coarsely abusive, vulgar or low (especially in language) foul- mouthed I have never heard this word and couldn't find a definition using google define or dictionary.com (which aggregates many major dictionaries). Perhaps it is a word, but an extremely obscure one. -- Rob Farmer Although the OP might have meant scurrilous (an obvious typo): scur·ril·ous –adjective 1. grossly or obscenely abusive: a scurrilous attack on the mayor. 2. characterized by or using low buffoonery; coarsely jocular or derisive: a scurrilous jest. -- Jerry ✌ freebsd.u...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: libxul compilation problem
2010/10/15 Fernando Apesteguía fernando.apesteg...@gmail.com: The process being killed is cc1plus while compiling libxul. I'm running a stock 8.1-RELEASE GENERIC kernel on amd64 platform. The machine has 1Gb of physical memory and 256MB for swap (I have had this setup for quite a long time and have always kept my system up to date using the ports infrastructure without problems). 1.25 GB of total memory is rather low these days, especially if you were compiling with X or other things running (you didn't say one way or another). For a large port like this you are probably going to need more swap - Mozilla stuff is not know for being light on resources. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: libxul compilation problem
2010/10/16 Fernando Apesteguía fernando.apesteg...@gmail.com: I didn't run X or whatsoever. That's why I think I should have enough memory. In fact after getting that error, I rebooted so I could update the ports from a fresh running system (nothing cached or so). But even in that case, I'm getting the same error. Any VM tuning I can try? I'm not really knowledgeable about that kind of thing. However, the port is marked MAKE_JOBS_SAFE which means that it will try to run multiple compiler instances in parallel, to speed things up if you have multiple CPUs/cores. You can try running with make -DDISABLE_MAKE_JOBS to just run one at a time - maybe you have enough memory for that but not multiple jobs at once? -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: libxul compilation problem
2010/10/17 Fernando Apesteguía fernando.apesteg...@gmail.com: The machine has one single core cpu. Finally I was able to compile the thing, compiling the offending file by hand (nsHtml5ElementName.cpp) without the -O2 optimization flag. With this flag, cc1plus eats up all the memory of my system in a few seconds. Without the flag, the file is compiled without any problems and quite fast. Should this issue be a candidate for filing a PR? It's hard to say whether this is really a bug or not - I still think your overall memory is low - 1 GB of RAM should be a supported configuration, but that assumes a decent amount of swap - I'll bet sysinstall's recommended partitioning would give you 2 GB. Try mailing the maintainers (ge...@freebsd.org) and see what they say. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to disable SCTP kernel in FreeBSD
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 07:11, Chetan Shukla chetan.shu...@aricent.com wrote: Hi, How we can disable SCTP kernel in FreeBSD. I tried lsmod and kldstat but neither of them worked. lsmod is a linux command and kldstat shows modules that are loaded. In the GENERIC kernel SCTP is compiled in, so it won't show up this way unless you run kldstat -v (and it can't be unloaded since there's no module). I'm not familiar with SCTP, but I bet you can shut it off/control it with sysctl (assuming it does anything by default). To completely delete support for it will require building a custom kernel. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE Installation success
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 17:25, Michael D. Norwick mnorw...@centurytel.net wrote: 4 weeks ago I backed up all my data and reformatted from Debian 'lenny' to GPT/ZFS/8.1-RELEASE. The next two weeks did not go so well. While I tried hard to get ZFS formatted drives to work reliably, intermittent unexplained core dumps with reboots gave me cause for concern. There have been some significant fixes to ZFS in the last several months. 8-STABLE is probably the best branch to follow for ZFS right now. On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 19:18, Michael D. Norwick mnorw...@centurytel.net wrote: I spoke a little too soon. I was UPGRADING to KDE4 4.5.2 as I was typing the message. 'portupgrade kde4' was @ approx. 38% when it error'd out on something about 'kdelibs4-4.4.5' too old. Going to /usr/ports/kdelibs4 and 'make clean', 'make', borked also. I do not have much time tonight for fiddling so, I deleted my ports tree and cvsup'd /usr/ports again. I'll try again tomorrow evening if the winds we are currently experiencing here in western wisconsin don't blow all our buildings away and kill my horses. What KDE did you start with? Did you do: 20100902: AFFECTS: users of KDE4 AUTHOR: k...@freebsd.org KDE SC ports has been updated to 4.5.1. A number of files were moved between packages, manual intervention into update procedure is required: # pkg_delete -f kdehier4\* kdelibs-4\* kdebase-4\* kdebase-runtime-4\* kdebase-workspace-4\* # rm -rf /usr/local/kde4/share/PolicyKit/policy # cd /usr/ports/misc/kdehier4 make install clean # portmaster -a (portupgrade -a can be used here too, if you want to stick with that) Upgrading big stuff like KDE is going to require some manual intervention because obsolete dependencies need removed, old libraries might interfere with the build of new ones, etc. Best practice is to look at /usr/ports/UPDATING for any special instructions when updating ports. ports-mgmt/portupdate-scan can help with this. In reality, myself and most people tend to wait for something to go wrong before checking (you can tell by the regular threads where people report a problem it already addresses.) -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can't install - Octave, SuiteSparse
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 01:09, Zbigniew Komarnicki cblas...@gmail.com wrote: I suspect that problem is with this: /usr/local/bin/ld: final link failed: Nonrepresentable section on output collect2: ld returned 1 exit status This is probably a GCC problem. What exact version are you using (pkg_info | grep gcc)? There is another recent report of issues with the latest update to lang/gcc45: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2010-October/064212.html Perhaps the maintainer knows more (cc'd) or you could try rolling back temporarily - I've successfully built suitesparse with 4.5.2.20101014 on amd64 current recently. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Continuing problem with portsnap
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 05:21, Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote: portsnap fetch extract Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 5 mirrors found. Fetching snapshot tag from portsnap1.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching snapshot tag from portsnap5.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching snapshot tag from portsnap2.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching snapshot tag from portsnap6.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching snapshot tag from portsnap4.FreeBSD.org... failed. No mirrors remaining, giving up. What does this give: fetch http://portsnap1.freebsd.org/pub.ssl fetch http://portsnap1.freebsd.org/snapshot.ssl openssl rsautl -pubin -inkey pub.ssl -verify snapshot.ssl You should get something like: portsnap|1288656202|c4523276897a50ff0ca27add61344a4e96cc19a5f7e0bc8f8e17d138819e19a2 It seems like you are having a problem fetching the tag - can you ping the servers? are you behind a proxy? Working from Sweden, maybe a little slow! As you can see it can't find any mirrors. portsnap fetch Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... none found. This is a separate issue due to bad DNS - the list of mirrors is obtained from: host -t srv _http._tcp.portsnap.freebsd.org and falls back to just portsnap.freebsd.org if it doesn't work. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: SSHgaurd and PF
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 09:34, Justin V. v...@yeaguy.com wrote: Hi, Would this be considered bruteforce?? Yes This goes on and on: Nov 2 05:42:19 yeaguy pure-ftpd: (?...@a214.amber.fastwebserver.de) [WARNING] Authentication failed for user [Administrator] Nov 2 05:42:53 yeaguy last message repeated 3 times [...] My sshgaurd config: Something isn't set up right if you are getting that many attempts - it should kill them right away: Nov 1 10:47:51 peridot sshd[77847]: reverse mapping checking getaddrinfo for 178-238-137-213.hostnoc.eu [178.238.137.213] failed - POSSIBLE BREAK-IN ATTEMPT! Nov 1 10:47:53 peridot sshd[77967]: reverse mapping checking getaddrinfo for 178-238-137-213.hostnoc.eu [178.238.137.213] failed - POSSIBLE BREAK-IN ATTEMPT! Nov 1 10:47:54 peridot sshd[78123]: reverse mapping checking getaddrinfo for 178-238-137-213.hostnoc.eu [178.238.137.213] failed - POSSIBLE BREAK-IN ATTEMPT! Nov 1 10:47:56 peridot sshd[78228]: reverse mapping checking getaddrinfo for 178-238-137-213.hostnoc.eu [178.238.137.213] failed - POSSIBLE BREAK-IN ATTEMPT! Nov 1 10:47:56 peridot sshguard[49177]: Blocking 178.238.137.213:4 for 420secs: 4 failures over 5 seconds. Do you have the syslog.conf part set up as well as the pf part? I've only used it for ssh but something like the following needs to be there: auth.info;authpriv.info |exec /usr/local/sbin/sshguard yeaguy# nslookup a214.amber.fastwebserver.de Server: 10.1.1.1 Address: 10.1.1.1#53 Non-authoritative answer: Name: a214.amber.fastwebserver.de Address: 217.79.189.214 I wouldn't waste your time trying to find out who they are - just block and move on. That site is probably a shared web hosting account that was compromised by a bad php script - even if you successfully complain (assuming it is a legit hoster that cares) and they do something about it, there are thousands more. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: SSHgaurd and PF
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:03, Justin V. v...@yeaguy.com wrote: This is the guide I used: http://www.sshguard.net/docs/setup/firewall/pf/ I followed this section to block all brute attempts: Right, but did you do this part too? http://www.sshguard.net/docs/setup/getlogs/syslog/ The part you mentioned sets up the table and has pf drop the connection attempts, but you need to configure syslog to fill the table with IPs of attackers. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: SSHgaurd and PF
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:40, Justin V. v...@yeaguy.com wrote: Actually this was installed after the port completed: yeaguy# grep sshg /etc/syslog.conf auth.info;authpriv.info |exec /usr/local/sbin/sshguard But it is not exactly what the HOWTO ways, the HOWTO does not mention the exec part. Could be that the docs are written for Linux or another version of syslog. The port and the man page say include the exec, so I would go with that. Put this line high into this file: auth.info;authpriv.info |/usr/local/sbin/sshguard Ok - if that isn't working, then check to see if your ftp server is logging to syslog under auth or authpriv. If not you'll need to change the setup to get the logs from the right place. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: SSHgaurd and PF
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:42, Justin V. v...@yeaguy.com wrote: So i added this: auth.info;authpriv.info;ftp.info /var/log/auth.log This is existing: ftp.info /var/log/xferlog I see my failed attempts going to auth.log and sshguard is still not blocking or logging.. I restarted both syslog and sshguard.. I feel like we are almost there thanks, jv Great - then try: ftp.info |exec /usr/local/sbin/sshguard in your /etc/syslog.conf (don't forget to restart syslog) and it should be working - I'm not sure what the threshold for sshguard to block someone is, but you could test it - just make sure you have a way to get back in if it works and your IP is blocked (or wait for the next script kiddie). -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portupgrade fails to run or do anything
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 10:15, Ron (Lists) rg.li...@rzweb.com wrote: None of these suggestions help. I have never had to put www/ in front of the port name before. The tab expansion is handled by bash-completion as used to be smart enough to know the command I was typing and could auto-complete port names, but no longer, which is why I suspect that I have a screwed up database. Perhaps it is fallout from recent infrastructure changes? http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-ports/2010-October/205680.html Portupgrade doesn't seem to have an active maintainer, so perhaps try portmaster. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portupgrade fails to run or do anything
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 12:12, Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote: Really! When did r...@freebsd.org drop the port? If he is not actively maintaining the port then perhaps he should inform the proper authority. He is a mailing list. ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade/Makefile Revision 1.256 Tue Jul 21 13:12:15 2009 PDT (15 months, 2 weeks ago) by sem Log: - Drop maintainership to ruby@ Beyond this point virtually no development has happened. The sourceforge project hasn't been updated since around that time and there are open PRs over two years old. Unfortuantely, FreeBSD has a lot of these niche mailing lists that virtually nobody reads but have PRs auto-assigned to them, effectively acting as a black hole. freebsd-rc is one of the worst offenders - other than Doug Barton, there don't seem to be any developers involved there and it has a massive buildup of unreviewed patches. So I would say portupgrade is unmaintained and thus encourage people to move to portmaster. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??
such that your .bat no longer worked. If you retained the original format or fixed the script, it would still work fine. However, it still points out one of the biggest problems with the CLI - there is a barrier to entry in knowing what commands to run with what arguments to make everything work the way you want. File Print was easy for your office staff to figure out. The CLI equivalent apparently wasn't. I think many here are underestimating the value of GUIs, because they have been running many of these traditional UNIX commands for years (or decades) and are also technically oriented enough that learning them in the first place wasn't a big deal. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: pseuadofs security announcement...
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 01:01, four.harris...@googlemail.com wrote: CouLd someone confirm my reading of the pseudofs security announcement issued yesterday? It seems that it only applies to 7 prior to 7.3 and 8 prior to RC1. This means that it doesn't apply to 8.1-R, correct? Yes - 8.1 is r210188, it was fixed in r196859. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 17:19, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: This isn't really a GUI problem, because the issue is the file format changing such that your .bat no longer worked. If you retained the original format or fixed the script, it would still work fine. Actually, my understanding was that the problem was someone refused to type a simple command, and would rather make a series of seven clicks thirty times while babysitting the application, and had no conception of the benefits of letting more than one person work in parallel on a given task. It wasn't the file format that changed; it was someone's tolerance for using a keyboard instead of a mouse. This is the kind of thinking that leads to the Mac defaulting to a mouse with only one button. Well, our info about this situation is limited, so it is hard to say exactly what happened. Switching to a GUI doesn't preclude multiple people working in parallel, which is why I think the file format or whatever changed too, and that was really the problem. However, it still points out one of the biggest problems with the CLI - there is a barrier to entry in knowing what commands to run with what arguments to make everything work the way you want. File Print was easy for your office staff to figure out. The CLI equivalent apparently wasn't. That was not evident in the explanation of what happened. The explanation suggested nothing about the batch file in question being difficult to use (or figure out). From the sound of it, three instructions on a 3x5 card would have sufficed to ensure everybody knew what to do, except in the case of people who do not know how to operate a keyboard. My reading of the anecdote was that the batch file was indeed easy to use, but it no longer worked when the GUI switch was made. Again, that isn't really a reflection on the GUI, since there are ways to automate this kind of thing (for Windows, AutoIt was mentioned, plus there are probably solutions that are more native to the application). I think many here are underestimating the value of GUIs, because they have been running many of these traditional UNIX commands for years (or decades) and are also technically oriented enough that learning them in the first place wasn't a big deal. I think that GUIs are quite valuable when used where appropriate. I think that the rest of the time, people greatly exaggerate the value of the GUI, to the extent that they begin to think the CLI (as well as TUIs in general) has no value at all. I used to be one of those idiots, and there was a time when I would have been on your side of this little debate. That was almost fifteen years ago. Times change, and I grow in knowledge and experience. The end result is that I believe those who are competent to operate a computer professionally would benefit from learning how to use the command line for those tasks that are more efficiently performed without the GUI mediating the experience, at least for almost any task that is performed with any regularity at all. I'm not saying the CLI is universally bad - if you gain competence with a set of programs that you use frequently, it can be very efficient. It does make it hard to enter a new area, though - you've got to learn some before you can do anything. That can pay off, if you keep using that program, but if it is a one-off or occasional thing (like the svn tagging example earlier in this thread), it's probably not worthwhile. While you argue that it increases flexibility, which is true in some ways, it also decreases flexibility by limiting me to the programs I know or am willing to read documentation for. I never read documentation for GUI programs - I jump right in and look through the menus to find what I need or realize the program isn't adequate and move on. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 23:16, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: It sounds like in some respects we're violently agreeing with each other. On one hand, I think that CLI programs can be great for frequent tasks, especially if you have something like the Unix pipeline at your disposal to automate complex tasks, and that GUIs have some discoverability advantages; on the other hand, you think that GUI programs can be great for cases where someone does not want to take the time to learn a better way to do something, perhaps because he does not perform the tasks very often, but if you do something often enough it might make sense to learn a more efficient CLI-based way to do it. Another difference in our apparent approaches to this is that I think it's a good idea to favor CLI tools when at all reasonable to do so, while you seem to think it's a good idea to favor GUI tools when at all reasonable to do so. We agree on the extremes, but not in the middle, in other words. I just wish that we could agree without it feeling like you're trying to convince people they shouldn't ever bother learning how to use CLI tools unless they absolutely have to. Well, I think to some extent we are considering two different sets of people. If a programmer or sysadmin doesn't use the CLI, they probably aren't very good at their job, since they are missing out on a lot of tools. I was thinking more generally about end-users, who tend to be very reluctant to use the CLI (the whole there's a big black box, what do I do now? thing is intimidating) and it is usually more trouble than it is worth to convince them to use the CLI, even if it would make their jobs easier. Most general computer users will never give up the GUI, because it involves investing in computer skills and they don't see that as terribly worthwhile - they just want to get started on their work. I think some UNIX fans are reluctant to accept this, and in doing so limit its ability to grow. That's my reason for preferring GUI in most situations. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mergemaster comparing everything.
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 09:04, Leon Meßner l.mess...@physik.tu-berlin.de wrote: On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 09:40:01AM -0700, Warren Block wrote: On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Leon Me?ner wrote: is there a trick besides using the rcs funktion of mergemaster to get around having to look at every file in /etc for comparison? I know there once was a bug in mergemaster but it's closed for a long time now. ... 90% of the differences are just in this cvs? tag lines. This is an upgrade from 8.1 to -STABLE. 'mergemaster -Ui' helps. thanks, that helped. Did the default behavior of mergemaster change somewhere because i didn't have to do this awhile ago (months not years). The problem is the svn to cvs exporter doesn't properly tag the existing revisions for releases, but rather checks in a brand new revision and tags that. So, when you switch branches (such as release to stable) with CVS, all the $FreeBSD$ tags change, and you get the false positives in mergemaster. Using your example (etc/periodic/daily/300.calendar), there is: 1.5.36.1.4.1 for RELENG_8_1 1.5.36.1 for RELENG_8 1.5 for MAIN (current) There are many more 1.5.x revisions for other branches. These shouldn't exist - the file hasn't changed since 2000 and 1.5 should just be tagged with for all releases since then. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 11:06, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 21:21:51 -0800, Rob Farmer rfar...@predatorlabs.net wrote: I'm not saying the CLI is universally bad - if you gain competence with a set of programs that you use frequently, it can be very efficient. It does make it hard to enter a new area, though - you've got to learn some before you can do anything. When entering WHICH field new to you this is different? Repeat after me: Computers. Are. Not. Easy. :-) None - but people don't feel like they are entering a new field. Everyone uses computers - public schools have spent massive amounts of money to start kids using computers at 5 or 6 years old, if they haven't already at home. So the discussion isn't framed as learning something new - its why should we change the way everyone has been working for years? To use a US example, you see the same thing with the SI/metric system. Scientists and other technical people use it almost universally without issue (except for some oddities, PSI is somewhat popular) - it is better for real/serious work, but the general public doesn't see it as new or valuable - its just a stupid change in the way everything has always been done. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 10:48, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote: From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Thu Nov 11 23:20:20 2010 Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 21:21:51 -0800 From: Rob Farmer rfar...@predatorlabs.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone?? On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 17:19, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: This isn't really a GUI problem, because the issue is the file format changing such that your .bat no longer worked. If you retained the original format or fixed the script, it would still work fine. Actually, my understanding was that the problem was someone refused to type a simple command, and would rather make a series of seven clicks thirty times while babysitting the application, and had no conception of the benefits of letting more than one person work in parallel on a given task. =A0It wasn't the file format that changed; it was someone's toleran= ce for using a keyboard instead of a mouse. =A0This is the kind of thinking that leads to the Mac defaulting to a mouse with only one button. Well, our info about this situation is limited, so it is hard to say exactly what happened. What hapened was a new 'senior-level' employee was 'offended' at the thought of having to use 'obselete' tools that he was unfamilair with, and bitched and moaned until management 'bought' Windows, and Windows apps, to 'shut h im up'. Switching to a GUI doesn't preclude multiple people working in parallel, which is why I think the file format or whatever changed too, and that was really the problem. Au Contraire, WINDOWS *itself* forbids more than one application from having the same file open forworking on. As Bruce mentions, that's not true. Besides, that is a great feature, since it prevents files from being modified, moved, deleted, etc. while open in an application that can't handle those things. With older versions of Windows sometimes you could get files stuck in a locked state but I haven't seen that in a while. Said employee _demanded_ a GUI-based application. The 'obselete' tool in effective production use did not exist in a windows version. Since said employee bundled all the formerly separate worksheets into a _single_ workbook, *his* action, combined with Windows enforcement of only _single-user_access_ to a given file, precluded multiple people working on _anything_ in the workbook at the same time. Right, and this isn't a GUI problem - its a problem with combining the documents. What software allows multiple people to open and write to the same file simultaneously without trashing the file or losing data? Many load the whole file into memory then write the whole thing back out, blindly assuming that nothing has changed since. That wasn't the fault of the GUI environment, per se, it merely facilitated the self-centered intrests of the above-mentioned employee. Top Management was a bunch of idiots. they let him get away with this, and more -- he moved 'his' workhook _off_ the company servers, and kept it _exclusively_ on his personal laptop. His excuse -- that way he could work on it 'at home', too. But the company no longer had a copy of _their_ production data. Indeed, so why do you include it as an anti-GUI argument? My reading of the anecdote was that the batch file was indeed easy to use, The batch file approach was _so_ easy to use, that the company _secretary_ would produce a custoized variation of it every week. Each line was a 'magic incantation' that was simly copied, followed by a file name. Compare that to what is necessary _today_ to use a COM or .NET automation interface. You create a script or exe which is double-clicked and does whatever you want. AutoIt was already mentioned. but it no longer worked when the GUI switch was made. Again, that isn't really a reflection on the GUI, since there are ways to automate this kind of thing (for Windows, AutoIt was mentioned, plus there are probably solutions that are more native to the application). There were *NO* automation options at the time (Early Win95 days). The necessary 'hooks' DID NOT EXIST in either the application *OR* the GUI. So said MICROSOFT themselves. OLE automation has existed for years - Wikipedia says Microsoft published a book on it in December 1993 (OLE 2 Programmer's Reference). Perhaps there was an OLE 1, before that, I don't know. It also says macros and VBA were added to Office in 1993 (ie, when GUI started to get popular). I'm not saying the CLI is universally bad - if you gain competence with a set of programs that you use frequently, it can be very efficient. It does make it hard to enter a new area, though - you've got to learn some before you can do anything. That can pay off, if you keep using that program, but if it is a one-off or occasional thing (like the svn tagging example earlier in this thread), it's probably
Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 13:53, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: Right, and this isn't a GUI problem - its a problem with combining the documents. What software allows multiple people to open and write to the same file simultaneously without trashing the file or losing data? Git and Mercurial come to mind. I'm not familiar with DVCSes, but I assume they work much the same as a centralized one - that is they don't open a file and leave it open - you work on something, then use locking for the actual commit part. Two people can't edit the same working copy at once, nor can they commit at exactly the same time. The difference is that locking is done at the application layer, rather than by the OS itself. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: JMicron JMB363 PCIe controler doesn't work
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 17:39, Ian Smith smi...@nimnet.asn.au wrote: Hey Woj, long time; yeah you picked a hell of time to re-surface. More likely nobody who knows would be bothered wasting their time wading through the present volume of bullshit infecting this once-useful list, which has been lately taken over by a gang of clueless vandals who want to use it as a Twitter replacement from their mobiles, shoving up middle fingers at those trying to restore some sanity. I've about had enough. There has always been crap on this list - that's the logical conclusion of unmoderated discussion forums. Its cyclic and will probably die down soon for a while. Filter your mail by thread, killfile the worst offenders, or get a moderator who can bump the BS over to c...@. In fact, you received excellent suggestions last time you brought this up (complaining about Wojciech Puchar, interestingly enough): http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-May/199607.html Writing more mail to complain about too much mail is self-defeating. That's why I don't reply to stuff like the devil thread - it just increases its longevity. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: porting software to FreeBSD, what to do if Makefile lacks?
2010/11/17 O. Hartmann ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de:
Hello.
I try to create a port of a software which does not have a Makefile and is
build via a propriate csh script. Installation is done temporarely into some
lib's and exe's subfolder withing the source folder, so I need to tell the
top level Makefile of the port to use a specific build script instead
implying having Makefile and a home-brewn install script, which takes the
binaries and libs out of the temporary folders and install them at the
proper places within the FreeBSD's tree. How can I perform these two tasks?
You want to override the do-build target, something like:
do-build:
${CSH} ${WRKSRC}/build-script.csh
you can list additional commands as necessary
For the install, do the same with the do-install target. Unless your
install script is particularly long or complicated, it will probably
be best to put it right into the port's Makefile. Then you can use the
INSTALL macros to ensure permissions are set correctly, binaries are
stripped if the user doesn't specify WITH_DEBUG, etc.
If you haven't already, check out the Porter's Handbook - it will
familiarize you with important guidelines and covers a lot of common
problems:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/
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Re: porting software to FreeBSD, what to do if Makefile lacks?
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 16:58, O. Hartmann
ohart...@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote:
Thanks.
I got it. But it seems that my first porting task run into some difficulties
for the advanced porters, since there is no autotool environment.
By the way, the global environment variable ${CSH} seems to be noneexistent,
instead ${SH} exists.
Interesting - I assumed it would be listed in bsd.commands.mk, but it
seems to not be. Most of the base system tools are. In any case, glad
to hear you got it working.
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Re: porting software to FreeBSD, what to do if Makefile lacks?
2010/11/18 O. Hartmann ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de: Well, in this case, it would really be a 'nice to have', maybe this is worth a PR? Try asking on the ports@ list. I'm not sure what the criteria is for something being listed there - if something isn't going to be used by very many ports, it may not be worth adding, from a bloat point of view. I would say it is probably safe for your port to assume csh is /bin/csh, though. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: RELEASE vice CURRENT vice STABLE
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 13:26, JB jb.1234a...@gmail.com wrote: The other *BSD are developed sequentially, that is, there is one branch and each major/minor release cycle follows the previous one (at no time there is a parallel major/minor branch development). In case of FreeBSD, it seems (visually) that there is some mainline CURRENT branch repository since FreeBSD 1.0 time, from which major branches are started in parallel (right now there are 8.2-CURRENT and 9.0-CURRENT developed, if I am correct), and they end their own life so to speak, without affecting other major branches; but there were periods of sequential dvelopments as well, e.g. 5.0 thru 5.2. So, this is the overview, as I see it. In the past 5.x and prior, I believe things were a bit different, but this represents what has happened for the last several years: There is only one current. It is the main branch in CVS and is where primary development occurs. There are no guarantees with current - the ABI may change at any time, features added/removed, and other major changes made, with the build sometimes broken. Some debugging stuff is turned on by default and there is an expectation that you follow the commit mails and curr...@freebsd.org list to keep track of things which may affect you. Current is branched off every 18 months (approximately) to make a stable branch. On this branch, the ABI is consistent (applications will not need recompiled due to changes) and backwards compatibility isn't broken within the branch. Nothing is committed directly here - if a change in current meets these criteria, then it may be MFC'ed (merged from current) after it has been proven to work properly (can be several days to weeks/months depending on the severity). There are two supported stable branches right now, 7 and 8. The CVS tags have the form RELENG_8. For current and stable you build your system from source, though snapshots are generated monthly for a convenient starting point. Several times per year, a new release is created from the stable branches - such as 8.1. There is a list on the website of which are currently supported and when they will EoL. Once a release is created, only security fixes and serious errata fixes may be applied on that branch. CVS tags are like RELENG_8_1. These can also be updated with freebsd-update (binary updates). Current is (right now) called 9.0 for cases where a version number is necessary, because that is what will be branched from it next, but it will become 10.0, 11.0, etc. without a new branch in CVS once more stable branches exist. See: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/version-guide/index.html -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD .dlink 8.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #1: Tue Nov 9 21:13:03 MSK 2010 r...@.dlink:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 05:16, K. Yura yy.gu...@gmail.com wrote: Can't use watch. How to install snp snoop device? The module is built during normal kernel builds, unless you are using the MODULES_OVERRIDE directive in your kernel. Run kldload snp. Put snp_load=YES in /boot/loader.conf to get it automatically every boot. If you are going to manually build things in /usr/src, you should run make obj in the directory first, to create a directory in /usr/obj for output. Otherwise, your .o files and such are mixed in with your sources. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Well, I broke it! FreeBSD V8.1 release
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 12:45, Jason Helfman jhelf...@e-e.com wrote: IMHO... It seems that /etc/rc.conf is in need of a sytax check script. Something similiar to visudo for editing /usr/local/etc/sudoers. Just run it with /bin/sh. If no errors appear the syntax is good. Or you can use /bin/sh -x to see more detail. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Portupgrade status [Was Re: Portmaster general questions and problems]
On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 13:42, Bob Hall rjh...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 11:39:58AM -0800, Ron (Lists) wrote: But, due to portupgrade no longer being maintained and failing to work anymore, I'm a bit confused about this. I did a quick google search and saw that someone had stopped maintaining portupgrade, but I also saw things that suggested that other people were maintaining it. The handbook continues to list it ahead of portmanager and portmaster, with no mention that it isn't being maintained. I've never stopped using portupgrade, and it has always worked. Updates come through periodically, two in the past month. For a port that isn't being maintained, it seems to be remarkably well maintained. I assume you are referring to my message from a couple months ago. At the time, the previous maintainer dropped it and transferred it to a mailing list. There had been no commits for around a year and a half. I am personally skeptical of anything maintained by a mailing list, because that seems to frequently lead to patches and bug reports being ignored for months or years. Then, the removal of MD5 distinfo broke it and it stayed broken for over a week with no indication given that a fix was in the works. On the other hand, Doug Barton has been very responsive to issues with portmaster and fixed this problem less than 48 hours after it appeared. Hence my recommendation to switch. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: java
On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 16:59, xinyou yan yxy@gmail.com wrote: $javac helloworld.java //No problem $java helloworld.class It should be java helloworld (no extension). -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: SD/CF card reader
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 16:26, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 19:35:20 -0600, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote: GEOM: da1: partition 1 does not start on a track boundary. GEOM: da1: partition 1 does not end on a track boundary. GEOM: da1: partition 1 does not start on a track boundary. GEOM: da1: partition 1 does not end on a track boundary. Yeah I don't know about that. I think it's just a warning but maybe trying using FreeBSD zero out device, partition(slice) and newfs_msdos it. Those messages seem to be uncritical as I've tried to access various media - without any problems. Those cards work well on my v7 system (where those messages aren't shown). I just continue as if those messages haven't been issued. They are useless and have been removed from current recently (large discussion of the details): http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-head/2010-December/023131.html Even Windows doesn't bother with the alignment in recent versions. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to build a BROKEN port?
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 17:42, Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net wrote: Most of the time, possessives are formed with apostrophe+s. I'm not sure, but its might be the only exception to the rule. So I tend to be more forgiving when people get it wrong -- especially when English is not their native tongue. It is not an exception - just the only one that's confusing. Apostrophes for possessives only applies to nouns, not pronouns (its, hers, yours, etc.). It's recieves an apostrophe because it is a contraction, like that's. Supposedly, English has a lot more homonyms than other languages. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: use of menus crashes Firefox?
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 18:53, Keith Seyffarth w...@weif.net wrote: Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com writes: On Jan 18, 2011, at 6:01 PM, Keith Seyffarth wrote: $ gdb --exec=firefox3 This GDB was configured as i386-marcel-freebsd./usr/local/bin/firefox3: not in executable format: File format not recognized What does file /usr/local/bin/firefox3 say? $ file /usr/local/bin/firefox3 /usr/local/bin/firefox3: Bourne shell script text executable Right - firefox3 is a script that sets up a couple environment variables and runs the real binary. You need to gdb the real binary (which is in /usr/local/lib/firefox or somesuch - its not in any remotely normal $PATH). Since the environment stuff the script does is required for it to start, temporarily editing the script and running firefox3 is probably the easiest thing to do. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: use of menus crashes Firefox?
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 16:43, Keith Seyffarth w...@weif.net wrote: Doing a bt would have been helpful right about there, but I think I've got enough info to suggest rebuilding your kernel with the following option: options P1003_1B_SEMAPHORES thanks again, Chuck. I can easily get the bt if needed, but I looked into rebuilding the kernel. It looks like I need to first update the source tree. I think I can see how to do that with cvsup, but if I do that, am I going to be trying to build an 8.3 kernel to run in a 7.2 environment? I suspect that would not have the desired end result of a running computer... Or should I just build the kernel with what's currently in /usr/src? So have you tried this? == Firefox 3.6 and HTML5 Certain functions used to display HTML5 elements need the sem module. If your Firefox crashes with the following message while viewing a HTML5 page: Bad system call (core dumped) you need to load the sem module (kldload sem). To load sem on every boot put the following into your /boot/loader.conf: sem_load=YES == -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Should I use the standard-supfile or stable-supfile?
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 15:42, Ed Flecko edfle...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Nerius! Would it be smart to run this daily via cron? Ed ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org No, the errata branches are only updated once every couple months (on average) - that's overkill. Just subscribe to the announce list - there will be a message whenever an update is issued: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-announce -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can't install - Octave, SuiteSparse
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 15:25, Gerald Pfeifer ger...@pfeifer.com wrote: Sorry, I just realized I totally missed this question. Are you still seeing the problem? Looking at the web archive of this thread, I do not see anything stand out. What happens if you remove gcc-4.4.6.20101012 and try to build everything with GCC 4.5? It may be worthwhile doing a 'portupgrade -a' or similar and rebuild all ports with one and the same compiler before trying again. Gerald IIRC, there was a problematic version of gcc45 somewhere in that time period but it was corrected next time the port was updated. I would suggest the reporter try again with a recent version - I suspect it will work fine. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Opening Opera as user
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Rem P Roberti remeg...@comcast.net wrote: I installed linux-opera, and I guess I made a mistake by opening it the first time as root, when I should have opened as user. At any rate, I can now only open the browser as root, and when I do I get this message: opera: $HOME set to /root. Use -personaldir if you do not want to use /root/.opera/ Can someone give me a heads up on how to fix this, as the above message is a mystery to me. Most likely, it is trying to use /root/.opera for your profile and is crashing early in the startup because the regular user can't write there. I would save any bookmarks or other useful items and then delete the folder. I haven't run into this in FreeBSD but you can get similar problems in Windows if a global profile is created in C:\Program Files\Opera by an administrator. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Opening Opera as user
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Rem P Roberti remeg...@comcast.net wrote: That's interesting. The problem is that there is no /root/.opera folder. As a matter of fact there doesn't seem to be any folders at all that refer to the linux-opera browser, in my /home/user directory, or anywhere else. So I have no idea where the program is storing the profile info. Rem I think /usr/local/bin/opera is a shell script that sets a couple environment variables and starts the real binary, so maybe you could open it and see if there are any clues. Otherwise, I have no other idea. Sorry :( -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 8.2 prerelease, virtualbox, and windows guests that freeze...
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net wrote: Net, I've formatted drives as fat32 that were well over 4gb. In fact I have an external 120gb we datavault that's fat32 Max per file, not the whole partition. Virtual machines generally store the whole disk as a single file, though Vmware has an option to split it up for these situations. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: shutdown computer after the halt command
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 7:31 PM, John R. Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote: It's quite easy to see you're wrong, just follow the steps I outlined above. If you are correct, reboot(8) should print things like: Stopping sshd. to the console. Sigh. I shut down my FreeBSD 8.1 laptop all the time with halt -p, and I can assure you it prints all those messages. Well, that's not what everyone else sees. You can also reference init.c if you still think you're correct. No thanks, I've already read the man page for init, including this paragraph: That man page hasn't been more than minorly tweaked in over 10 years, according to cvsweb. Perhaps your copy of FreeBSD was installed incorrectly, or it's been so long since you tried halt or reboot that you forgot what happened. Just did - it kills all process and moves to the syncing disks stage. Nothing rc related is touched. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Run your own portsnap mirror?
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 2:56 PM, patrick gibblert...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any official way to run a private portsnap mirror? ie. Have one, external server fetch from the official portsnap sources, and then internal servers pulling from the private mirror? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/projects/portsnap/ There is a note explaining why this might not be a good idea, though. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Error linking MYKERNEL
2009/9/20 Arkady Tokaev tok...@hotmail.com: After hours of # make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL I see this: ... linking kernel.debug if_ural.o(.text+0x743): In function `ural_free_tx_list': /usr/src/sys/dev/usb/if_ural.c:627: undefined reference to `ieee80211_free_node' snip rum and ural are wireless cards, but you have the wlan options commented out. You need to either remove them or add the wlan section back. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: what would take to allow binary upgrade to amd64?
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com wrote: I know that attempting to change from i386 to amd64 is is not possible The proper procedure for such an upgrade is as follows: 1) download and burn the relevant amd64 iso 2) update your backups 3) reformat and reinstall the OS from the CD 4) restore your data and system config from the backups 5) resume normal operation If the thought of reformatting your system is scary, because you don't have backups or aren't sure they are comprehensive or work, then solve that problem, rather than trying to invent workarounds to cover for bad system administration. It will serve you much better in the long run. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: what would take to allow binary upgrade to amd64?
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com wrote: On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Rob Farmer rfar...@predatorlabs.net wrote: On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com wrote: I know that attempting to change from i386 to amd64 is is not possible The proper procedure for such an upgrade is as follows: If the thought of reformatting your system is scary, because you don't have backups or aren't sure they are comprehensive or work, then solve that problem, rather than trying to invent workarounds to cover for bad system administration. It will serve you much better in the long run. This isn't my question. I know how to currently perform the upgrade. My question is a) is it possible in theory to allow binary upgrades to be done? and b) if yes how much work would it take? Sure, its possible. But my point was that it is not a good idea and not something worth encouraging via tools like freebsd-upgrade. What is the use case you have in mind for this where a reformat isn't an option? -- Rob Farmer -- Eitan Adler ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Midphase Hosting
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Matthias Fechner ide...@fechner.net wrote: Hi, Am 10.06.10 11:47, schrieb Jonathan McKeown: Subject: [#24548754] Re: why does ps |grep sometimes not return itself? Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 02:46:31 -0500 From: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: supp...@mpcustomer.com Message-ID:e436b556aafa1c4bd0f2c367a0097...@secure.mpcustomer.com I suggest to block on the freebsd server the complete domain mpcustomer.com that should solve the problem. I haven't received any of the messages, but I think they are being sent directly to list posters (not via the list) so FreeBSD can't really do much about it. If mpcustomer.com refuses to deal with it you can always try complaining to their upstream provider, taking the line that since the messages are unsolicited and there is no way to unsubscribe the practice is probably illegal. -- Rob Farmer It is really anyoing. I had already contact with the postmaster and he was unable to do anything. Bye, Matthias -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning. -- Rich Cook ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Midphase Hosting
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Jonathan McKeown j.mcke...@ru.ac.za wrote: On Thursday 10 June 2010 14:06:46 Rob Farmer wrote: On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Matthias Fechner ide...@fechner.net wrote: Hi, Am 10.06.10 11:47, schrieb Jonathan McKeown: Subject: [#24548754] Re: why does ps |grep sometimes not return itself? Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 02:46:31 -0500 From: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: supp...@mpcustomer.com Message-ID:e436b556aafa1c4bd0f2c367a0097...@secure.mpcustomer.com I suggest to block on the freebsd server the complete domain mpcustomer.com that should solve the problem. I haven't received any of the messages, but I think they are being sent directly to list posters (not via the list) so FreeBSD can't really do much about it. If mpcustomer.com refuses to deal with it you can always try complaining to their upstream provider, taking the line that since the messages are unsolicited and there is no way to unsubscribe the practice is probably illegal. Well, yes, the message is being sent direct to list posters, but supp...@mpcustomer.com (or some address that's relaying to it) is presumably subscribed to the list (which I'm guessing was done maliciously), otherwise they wouldn't be receiving these messages. I know it creates work for the admins, but couldn't their address be unsubscribed and banned, given that they have been creating a nuisance for at least the last several weeks now? They posted in a previous thread about this, saying they couldn't unsubscribe under their address, ie. somebody is relaying mail to them. They were told they need to provide headers so postmaster can determine what address is subscribed. They never replied (at least on list). I'm not an expert about such things but I think without their cooperation there's no real way to tell who the relay is. -- Rob Farmer Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Midphase Hosting
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 6:09 AM, Jonathan McKeown j.mcke...@ru.ac.za wrote: On Thursday 10 June 2010 14:51:42 Rob Farmer wrote: On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Jonathan McKeown j.mcke...@ru.ac.za wrote: [rant about midphase hosting and mpcustomer.com] They posted in a previous thread about this, saying they couldn't unsubscribe under their address, ie. somebody is relaying mail to them. They were told they need to provide headers so postmaster can determine what address is subscribed. They never replied (at least on list). I'm not an expert about such things but I think without their cooperation there's no real way to tell who the relay is. So this is a hosting company that has had (assuming everyone else is having the same experience as I am, namely one ticket per posting) almost 500 junk tickets added to their support queue in the last ten days (476 messages on the freebsd-questions archive for June when I checked a moment ago), and either can't think of a way to address the issue, or doesn't actually care enough to do anything about it, all the while presumably having real support requests swamped in the noise? I'd be jumping up and down looking for a solution by now (in fact I would have been weeks ago - can anyone remember how long this has been happening?). Agreed - if this was a small non-profit with no technical staff it might be understandable, but they are supposedly a web host. As Matthew just mentioned, this is not good advertising for them. Looking on the bright side - at least you know who *not* to go with for your next web site. -- Rob Farmer Jonathan (I should probably stress that I am not speaking on behalf of my employer and my opinions are entirely my own). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: rc.conf: gnome_enable=YES - which instructions executed?
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Chris Stankevitz chrisstankev...@yahoo.com wrote: My rc.conf file has this entry: gnome_enable=YES Q: Where on my hard drive can I find the instructions executed to enable GNOME? This enables dbus, avahi, hal, and gdm (assuming that they are installed, of course). See the files for those things in /usr/local/etc/rc.d for the details of what is run. See: http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html#full-gnome -- Rob Farmer A: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/gnome [bad answer: file does not exist] Thank you, Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Anybody using the portcheckout port
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote: Is this port broken? I can not get it to work. It gives this message cvs checkout: No CVSROOT specified! Please use the -d option Cannot read the INDEX file. Give up I am not familiar with that port, but it looks to be a wrapper for running cvs to get the port directory (and dependencies) you have requested, then installing from that. cvs needs either the -d flag or the CVSROOT environment variable to tell it which CVS repo to checkout from. There are some examples here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/anoncvs.html -- Rob Farmer The manpage has no information about any options at all, so have no idea how the -d option is to be coded. I do have a /usr/ports/INDEX file so don't understand what its complaining about. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: cpu_reset: stopping other CPUs - machine stalls at halt or reboot
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 1:24 PM, claudiu vasadi claudiu.vas...@gmail.com wrote: Hello fellas, I have a vmware FreeBSD guest with 8 CPU's and 2GB RAM. I am a bit puzzled of the behaviour the system has when I issue reboot and/or halt -p now. It shows cpu_reset: stopping other CPUs and stalls for ~2 minutes. I have a custom SMP kernel and at the moment I was unable to reveal any problems with the guest or the host (win 7). FreeBSD has all ports up to date and at the moment of reboot or shutdown, no heavy is running. Did any of you experience something similar ? Yeah - I've seen the same thing when rebooting - the cpu_reset message appears and there is a long delay before a reboot happens. I have no problems powering off though (shutdown -p). I've got a -current vm under 6.5.4 with 2 CPUs, host OS is Windows 7, that can take a while to reboot. I haven't timed it but 90 seconds from the message appearing is a good estimate. Since the disks should already be synced by that point, there doesn't seem to be any harm in just resetting the VM - I've done it a number of times and never had any issues. However, even on a real computer, there is a bit of a delay here - my Thinkpad T61 will sit there for around 20 seconds before actually rebooting. I have no idea how to even start debugging this kind of thing and it isn't a really big deal to me (I don't reboot too often and just use the workaround when I do), so I never reported it. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: trouble building FreeBSD 8.1 amd64 kernel with pfsync support
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 12:20 AM, Cameron Simpson c...@zip.com.au wrote: I'm trying to build a kernel for a pair of firewalls which will be using CARP and pfsync for redundancy. Since I'm new to FreeBSD the config is based on the GENERIC config, thus: include GENERIC ident NEW_FIREWALL device carp ##device pfsync and issuing the build like this: # cd /usr/src # time make buildkernel KERNCONF=NEW_FIREWALL echo YES With the config above (CARP but no pfsync) it builds just fine and boots and runs happily; I've got CARP configured. If I uncomment the devic pfsync the build aborts at link time ending thus: Do you also have a device pf line? I think that is a prereq for pfsync. You may also need device pflog - I'm not sure because I've always just added them all. -- Rob Farmer MAKE=make sh /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh NEW_FIREWALL cc -c -O2 -frename-registers -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -std=c99 -g -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -nostdinc -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/altq -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-omit-frame-pointer -mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone -mfpmath=387 -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-sse3 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -msoft-float -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestanding -fstack-protector -Werror vers.c linking kernel.debug in_proto.o(.data+0x698): undefined reference to `pfsync_input' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NEW_FIREWALL. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. real 11m33.795s user 7m19.405s sys 0m40.068s Am I doing something obviously wrong here? Cheers, -- Cameron Simpson c...@zip.com.au DoD#743 http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/ Once a Junior Programmer interrupted a Great Guru of the Sun to ask a Question of no importance. The Great Guru replied in words which the Junior Programmer did not understand. The Junior Programmer sought to rephrase the Question, saying, Stop me if I appear stupid. The great Guru, without speaking, reached over and pressed L1-A. The Junior Programmer achieved Enlightenment. - Jon Green ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Should a squid user have a shell?
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Ed Flecko edfle...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, I'm looking in some documentation for Squid, which I'm installing on a FBSD 8.1 server, and it says I need to create a squid user and a squid group because I'm building/installing from source. I see to create the squid user, I user the (of course) adduser command (there isn't a default squid user with the base install, is there?). 1.) When I use the adduser command, from a security perspective, should the squid user have a shell? What should it be? 2.) How do I create a squid group and add the squid user to it? 3.) Since the squid user needs full access to the squid directory and all of its files, what the easiest way to give the appropriate permissions? Service accounts shouldn't have a password (their password field should be starred out) and should have a shell of /usr/sbin/nologin (this program logs any attempt to run it and exits). The port using the following commands to set this up: pw groupadd squid -g 100 -q pw useradd -q -n squid -u 100 -g squid -c Squid caching-proxy psuedo user -d /var/squid -s /usr/sbin/nologin -h - This assumes data is in /var/squid. You can create this directory and use chmod/chown to give the user and group necessary permissions. The UID and GID (100 and 100 in this case) come from the lists in /usr/ports and are reserved for squid to avoid conflicts. -- Rob Farmer Thank you, Ed ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Should a squid user have a shell?
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Rob Farmer rfar...@predatorlabs.net wrote: On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Ed Flecko edfle...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, I'm looking in some documentation for Squid, which I'm installing on a FBSD 8.1 server, and it says I need to create a squid user and a squid group because I'm building/installing from source. I see to create the squid user, I user the (of course) adduser command (there isn't a default squid user with the base install, is there?). 1.) When I use the adduser command, from a security perspective, should the squid user have a shell? What should it be? 2.) How do I create a squid group and add the squid user to it? 3.) Since the squid user needs full access to the squid directory and all of its files, what the easiest way to give the appropriate permissions? Service accounts shouldn't have a password (their password field should be starred out) and should have a shell of /usr/sbin/nologin (this program logs any attempt to run it and exits). The port using the following commands to set this up: pw groupadd squid -g 100 -q pw useradd -q -n squid -u 100 -g squid -c Squid caching-proxy psuedo user -d /var/squid -s /usr/sbin/nologin -h - Addendum: the -q flag suppresses output/errors - good for a script, but you probably want to remove it for interactive use. -- Rob Farmer This assumes data is in /var/squid. You can create this directory and use chmod/chown to give the user and group necessary permissions. The UID and GID (100 and 100 in this case) come from the lists in /usr/ports and are reserved for squid to avoid conflicts. -- Rob Farmer Thank you, Ed ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: vmware-guestd6: error during make install
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 00:59, Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote: Hello, I'm trying to install the port /usr/ports/emulators/vmware-guestd6 (even the freshest from FreeBSD server) in 8-CURRENT: Do you have a particular reason for using this port? Assuming you mean 8.X, the Tools that ship on this iso with Vmware will work (assuming your copy of vmware isn't too old) if you install misc/compat6x or you can try emulators/open-vm-tools (open sourced copy of Vmware Tools that you build). If you meant 9-CURRENT, things may be more difficult since Vmware only ships binaries for releases and open-vm-tools is marked broken on current. -- Rob Farmer current# pwd /usr/ports/emulators current# mv vmware-guestd6 vmware-guestd6.old current# tar xzf ~guru/vmware-guestd6.tar.gz current# cd vmware-guestd6 current# make === Vulnerability check disabled, database not found Choose VM - Install VMware Tools... from VMware Workstation menu to connect VM's CD-ROM drive and installation CD image temporary. Press Install button when a dialog pops up. This port mounts /dev/acd0 to /mnt. Are you ready? [Y/n]: y /bin/mkdir -p /mnt /sbin/umount /mnt 21 /dev/null umount: /mnt: not a file system root directory *** Error code 1 (ignored) /sbin/umount /dev/acd0 21 /dev/null umount: /dev/acd0: unknown file system *** Error code 1 (ignored) /sbin/mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /mnt === Extracting for vmware-guestd-6.0.3.80004_2 /sbin/umount /mnt (cd /usr/ports/emulators/vmware-guestd6/work; /usr/bin/tar xf /usr/ports/emulators/vmware-guestd6/work/vmware-tools-distrib/lib/modules/source/vmmemctl.tar) === Patching for vmware-guestd-6.0.3.80004_2 LC_ALL=C /usr/bin/sed -i.bak `/usr/bin/printf 's|\0152\013\0350|\0152\\\n\0350|g'` /usr/ports/emulators/vmware-guestd6/work/vmware-tools-distrib/lib/sbin32-6/vmware-checkvm sed: /usr/ports/emulators/vmware-guestd6/work/vmware-tools-distrib/lib/sbin32-6/vmware-checkvm: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/vmware-guestd6. there is no directory work/vmware-tools-distrib/lib/sbin32-6 but only work/vmware-tools-distrib/lib/sbin32-63 creating a symlink helps a bit but later it can't find vmware-guestd for installation which is not there, i.e. not in the tar file of the vmware-tools; Any ideas? matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e g...@unixarea.de - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Solidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not in my name! ¿Solidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? ¡No en mi nombre! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: vmware-guestd6: error during make install
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 06:01, Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote: I tried to install the vmware-freebsd-tools.tar.gz directly as VMWare.com it provides (I have compat6x already installed for some other reason). But in vmware-freebsd-tools.tar.gz there are only kernel modules for FreeBSD 6 and 7 and using the modules for 7 it crashes, ofc. Who can I get the tools installed? My EULA says: 3.4 VMware Tools. You may distribute the VMware Tools to any third party provided that (i) you only distribute the VMware Tools as a whole in object code format whether or not as part of, the Virtual Machine you create with the Software; (ii) you do not use VMware's name, logo or trademarks to market the VMware Tools, except you may refer to VMware names, logos or trademarks to indicate that the VMware Tools are compatible with or designed for use with the Software and (iii) you agree to indemnify, hold harmless, and defend VMware from and against any claims or lawsuits, including attorneys' fees, that arise or result from your use or distribution of VMware Tools. Notwithstanding the foregoing, you may distribute and modify the Open Source Software of VMware Tools; however, VMware may not provide any support, pursuant to Section 5, for such modified VMware Tools. Assuming you aren't in a US export restricted country (Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Sudan, and Syria) I should be able to give you a legal copy. This is the ISO that ships with Workstation 7.1.1 build-282343. It has kernel modules for 8.0 i386 amd64. http://www.predatorlabs.net/dl/vmware-tools-freebsd-711.iso -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: why is the PHP stuff line off by default in ports/lang/php5?
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 04:47, Ian Smith smi...@nimnet.asn.au wrote: In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 3, Issue 9, Message: 21 On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:03:46 -0700 patrick gibblert...@gmail.com wrote: I don't for sure, but I'd say it's off by default because not everyone runs PHP with Apache, and mod_php5/libphp5.so is strictly for Apache. No, not everyone installs PHP to use with Apache, but I guess that maybe half do. This comes up many times in the last 5 or so years since you could last install the module from a package rather than only the port. It's also one of those ports that takes a good while to build on slower hardware (which of course developers don't tend to run :) but no amount of requesting a version with 'Build Apache module on' helped so far. Lots of people use PHP with FastCGI or other purposes. True, yet those people probably also tend to be less likely to want to install from packages (when available) anyway. Sure, adding libphp5.so to the (or one different?) package would add maybe 3MB to it. I'd be happy to spend an extra few MB and minutes to save likely an hour. If you always want it to be on, add the option to /etc/make.conf. Or, if you're using portupgrade or some other port management utility for upgrades, there are ways to set the default options for the ports you use. Not a problem when you have the horsepower and time to build it, but a significant loss of ability to install apache+php from packages, as you once could from the CDs .. guess I just got spoiled back there in the olden days :) Adding a slave port would probably be a good solution and shouldn't be too difficult. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: why is the PHP stuff line off by default in ports/lang/php5?
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 00:45, Alex Dupre a...@freebsd.org wrote: This issue has been discussed too many times. The answer is simply no, but you can search the archives for the actual reason. You have to comile the module for your specific apache installation. -- Alex Dupre If you can't be bothered to give the actual reason, then why even reply? I have searched the archives. Unfortunately, there are so many messages revolving around how to set up php, secure it, etc. that it becomes difficult to find anything relevant. The only thing I came across was a thread from 2007 about how this is more like a personal preference than engineering as such[1] and its just one of those things that you learn to live with after a while.[2] [1] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007-June/151399.html [2] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007-June/151384.html -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
