Re: TRENDnet, which?
Gary Kline wrote: Well, it pays to check prices! the Avocent brand of KVM are an arm and *three* legs. I have abs no use for anything fancy. just want something to get me to boot status on different boxes... a number of you suggested a kvm switch with the brand trendnet. anybody know which model? Well i'm using Tk-801r model. have not had any problems in the couple of years i've owned it. it can be rack monted if needed. http://trendnet.com/products/proddetail.asp?status=viewprod=165_TK-801Rcat=110 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is ZFS production ready?
On 06/25/2012 08:00 AM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Edward M eam1edw...@gmail.com wrote: That reply was not meant for you, so why do you care? If it wasn't meant for everyone on the list, why was it sent to the list? by accident. still learning how to use email client:-[ . once i noticed my email was also to this list. i was hoping subscribers would notice it was by mistake. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is ZFS production ready?
On 06/23/2012 10:38 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: last binary production ready, used version 14; i also found it to be stable Any opensource zfs pool verisons beyound that, i am not really sure about their stablity compared to UFS rock solid filesystem. No ZFS pool version can be as trusty as UFS because of ZFS on disk structure that is plain dangerous. ZFS use tree-like structure for everything. If upper part of tree is corrupted, everything below disappears and cannot be found. Having 2,3 or even 100 copies of metadata doesn't help if you would have (maybe transient) hardware problem and bad metadata would be writen 2,3 or even 100 times. with proper checksum of course. UFS uses flat structure - inodes in known places. superblocks are used to find info about placement, and there are many copies of which only first is updated under normal operation. In really unlikely case of all superblocks corrupted just use newfs on virtual device (may be md) of same size, with same block and fragment size, and byte per inode, and copy superblock from here. Dont email me privately. I like ZFS design however i was only questioning v28 stability for production compared to a mature production tested UFS. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is ZFS production ready?
On 06/24/2012 04:23 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Edward M eam1edw...@gmail.com mailto:eam1edw...@gmail.com wrote: Dont email me privately. Don't be an ass. Standard list conventions allows for private email. If this is simply an individual case of not liking the person who emailed you, then it is your ethical responsibility to ask for privacy in privacy. **Even in the case of sender being a pompous ass. If it is your overall wish to not be emailed privately by members of this list, then you should set that option on your list membership page instead of attempting to force your responsibility onto others. -- Adam Vande More That reply was not meant for you, so why do you care? get lost. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is ZFS production ready?
On 06/21/2012 12:33 AM, Hooman Fazaeli wrote: Now, I want to the same thing on 8.3 and wanted to know your opinion on ZFS stability. Is there any success story using ZFS in 24x7, large volume, heavy duty servers? Is there any other option other than ZFS to build larger than 2TB file systems? I like the ZFS theroy, However I would have to question ZFS Pool Version Number 28 stability, that is what freebsd 9.0 comes with. because it was never really used/marked as production ready by sun/oracle. in my opionion version 28 is consider as a development version. solaris 11 uses version 33 so that is consider as production ready but it is closed source. i think the last open zfs version pool marked as production ready,was pool version 14 and 15 zfs sounds great however i would actally trust more UFS2 for 24x7 servers. agian this is my opinion, could be wrong:-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is ZFS production ready?
On 06/23/2012 04:19 PM, Edward M wrote: On 06/21/2012 12:33 AM, Hooman Fazaeli wrote: Now, I want to the same thing on 8.3 and wanted to know your opinion on ZFS stability. Is there any success story using ZFS in 24x7, large volume, heavy duty servers? Is there any other option other than ZFS to build larger than 2TB file systems? I like the ZFS theroy, However I would have to question ZFS Pool Version Number 28 stability, that is what freebsd 9.0 comes with. because it was never really used/marked as production ready by sun/oracle. in my opionion version 28 is consider as a development version. solaris 11 uses version 33 so that is consider as production ready but it is closed source. i think the last open zfs version pool marked as production ready,was pool version 14 and 15 zfs sounds great however i would actally trust more UFS2 for 24x7 servers. agian this is my opinion, could be wrong:-) snafu on my part freebsd 8.3 also uses zfs pool version 28:-) so my opinion would also be the same. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is ZFS production ready?
On 06/23/2012 05:16 PM, John Levine wrote: Sorry, I misread my notes, 8.2 uses v 15, 8.3 uses v 28. R's, John yeah, I remember version 15 was really stable. Opensolaris 2009.06 last binary production ready, used version 14; i also found it to be stable Any opensource zfs pool verisons beyound that, i am not really sure about their stablity compared to UFS rock solid filesystem. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OT: Robotics or embedded or hardware programming... what is this called?
On 06/20/2012 06:54 PM, Modulok wrote: Even general pointers to books/websites would be great. Once I know what it's called I can google much more effectively Mars rover is robotic/embedded. I am using this site myself. http://www.societyofrobots.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: No surround sound with Creative SB Live! card
On 06/15/2012 01:06 AM, David Demelier wrote: That's what mplayer says: == Opening audio decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg/libavcodec audio decoders AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 6 ch, s16le, 448.0 kbit/9.72% (ratio: 56000-576000) Selected audio codec: [ffac3] afm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg AC-3) == AO: [oss] 48000Hz 6ch s16le (2 bytes per sample) What do you mean by a decoder is needed? A decorder is either a special plugin/codex that gets installed into the OS ( codex called a52dec) and decoding happens internally. or a hardware device like a stereo receiver that is able to understand Dolby Digital signals from the DVD through S/PDIF connector from the sound card to decorder. however, it only appears you are only missing a52dec? Have you installed a52dec from ports/audio/gstreamer-plugins-a52dec/ ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: No surround sound with Creative SB Live! card
On 06/14/2012 09:03 AM, David Demelier wrote: I have an old SB Live! card with a 5.1 speaker set, but i can't get sound from center and rear speakers with mplayer. I'm using the snd_emu10kx driver and when I try to play a DVD I get sound only through the front speakers (and LFE) like a 2.1 Adding -channels 6 to the mplayer args does not help. Cheers, Sounds like the DVD surround audio is encoded in AC-3 Dolby Digital or DTS. So a decorder is needed. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: text format
On 06/12/2012 01:40 PM, pwnedomina wrote: to format an ascii text to be identical to that one, centered and aligned.. would not that require the use of HTML? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: text format
On 06/12/2012 02:01 PM, Edward M wrote: On 06/12/2012 01:40 PM, pwnedomina wrote: to format an ascii text to be identical to that one, centered and aligned.. would not that require the use of HTML? Oops... just dawn on me you may be trying to print an ascii file and may not be trying to ceate a website to look like that. so disregard HTML part. if that is the case:-[ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?
On 06/10/2012 08:09 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote: This is really missing the point. The issue is not open source vs. proprietary although many people seem to try to steer everything into that meaningless conflict. The point is the WinTel Mafia's many years of collusion and screwing over the customer. Try to buy a commodity PC in any major store and it will come with Windows, and you have to pay for it. Now the WinTel Mafia got many companies onboard with their system to lock you out from the box you just bought. Bad enough it comes with Windows and you had to pay for it, and you don't even get an install disk. But the WinTel Mafia adds insult to injury and stops you from installing whatever software you want on it. What does this have to do with OSS v. proprietary source? Nothing! It is just about the WinTel Mafia's illegal, abuse trade practices. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Need to have that congitiive distortion ckecked out because it makes it difficult to bring a logical conclusion, and creates an ill perspective on reality and keeps the person with a child like mentality; which makes the person to excerise worlds like wintel mafia,etc. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?
On 06/06/2012 01:35 PM, Alejandro Imass wrote: But this is more to do with the BIOS than with Intel as such. Wasn't there a FreeBIOS, later LinuxBIOS, now coreboot I believe..? So replacing the BIOS entirely wouldn't suffice to override all this nonsense? ___ anybody will be free to disable secure boot in x86 systems and run any OS, so this is not really a big deal. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: buildworld problem
On 05/18/2012 09:17 PM, Andriy Babiy wrote: FreeBSD myhost 9.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0: Fri Mar 23 20:00:59 PDT 2012 root@myhost:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 root#cd /usr/obj root#chflags -R noschg * root#rm -rf * root#make buildworld ... cd /usr/src; MACHINE=i386 MACHINE_ARCH=i386 MACHINE_CPU=i686 mmx sse sse2 LD=ld -m elf_i386_fbsd -Y P,/usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/lib32 AS=as --32 MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/lib32 I may be going over my head on this one:-) However to my understanding it seems, it is trying to build 32 bit on a amd 64bit install? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: buildworld problem
On 05/18/2012 09:17 PM, Andriy Babiy wrote:
Makefile.inc1, line 160: CPUTYPE global should be set with ?=
I think the problem is the wrong cpu type define. . I took a
glance at the code in the makefile.inc1 to see what would set that
error off and i found this in the makefile.inc1
if cpu type does not equal target_cputype then throw that error.
.if ${_CPUTYPE} != ${_TARGET_CPUTYPE}
.error CPUTYPE global should be set with ?=.
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Re: buildworld problem
On 05/19/2012 09:18 AM, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: As it says, you need CPUTYPE?=nocona instead of CPUTYPE=nocona in /etc/make.conf or /etc/src.conf; otherwise the build process chokes while building the 32-bit compatibility stuff, since it cannot override your 64-bit CPU selection with a 32-bit one. Just learned something new:-) had a look in share/examples/etc/make.conf file and i noticed this # (?= allows to buildworld for a different CPUTYPE.) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wine for Diablo 3 on FreeBSD 9.0R amd64
On 05/19/2012 02:28 PM, lokada...@gmx.de wrote: On 05/17/12 07:54, Любомир Григоров wrote: We have to wait, unfortunately. I am using a Linux partition with Wine meanwhile. As long as it's not mainstream, it will be hard to do. Not to mention port is at 1.4. FreeBSD have 2 wine- ports. :) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=wine-1stype=allsektion=all wine for 1.4 and wine-devel for 1.5 But i can't help with Diablo 3. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org a user is trying but at the moment is plague with wine errors. http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=15659 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD X?
On 05/17/2012 05:36 PM, Vance Siemens wrote: http://www.trollaxor.com/2012/05/freebsd-x-berkeley-unix-apple-quality.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org . Screw this, I'm going over to Ubuntu. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing
On 05/11/2012 10:47 AM, Chad Perrin wrote: Is there something else I should try to find in the index or table of contents that would be in the third edition but not the fourth? Can you give me some examples of the sorts of things you'd expect to find in the table of contents that is lacking in the fourth edition but present in the third? Hi,:-) So far I think I found a few that may make a difference. According to the table of contents in the 4th edition in the chapter called Booting and shuting down it only shows entries for: red hat, HP-UX, AIX, SUSE,Ubuntu. However in the third edition, show entries for FreeBSD's Booting and shuting down process. And another example is in the 4th edition the chapter called Adding new users, only mentions how to add users for: SUSE, Redhat Solaris HP-UX and AIX. However in the 3rd edition, explains how to add users on FreeBSD and how FreeBSD's master.passwd file, login.conf. work,etc The third edition's chapter called Drivers and the kernel shows how to build a freebsd kernel, create a BSD config file, tuning the freebsd kernel, add freebsd device drivers,etc. I was not able to find those entries in the the 4th editions Drivers and the kernel. chapter.the 3rd editions TCP/IP chapter shows network config for freebsd. However in the table of contents of the 4th edition does not. I'm searching for a website that contains the 3rd edition table of contents so one can compare between the two editions for better judgement. unfortunate, those were a few examples i have time to point out. I think may make a great difference. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing
On 05/11/2012 12:11 PM, Edward M wrote: So far I think I found a few that may make a difference. According to the table of contents in the 4th edition in the chapter called Booting and shuting down it only shows entries for: red hat, HP-UX, AIX, SUSE,Ubuntu. However in the third edition, show entries for FreeBSD's Booting and shuting down process. And another example is in the 4th edition the chapter called Adding new users, only mentions how to add users for: SUSE, Redhat Solaris HP-UX and AIX. However in the 3rd edition, explains how to add users on FreeBSD and how FreeBSD's master.passwd file, login.conf. work,etc The third edition's chapter called Drivers and the kernel shows how to build a freebsd kernel, create a BSD config file, tuning the freebsd kernel, add freebsd device drivers,etc. I was not able to find those entries in the the 4th editions Drivers and the kernel. chapter.the 3rd editions TCP/IP chapter shows network config for freebsd. However in the table of contents of the 4th edition does not. I'm searching for a website that contains the 3rd edition table of contents so one can compare between the two editions for better judgement. unfortunate, those were a few examples i have time to point out. I think may make a great difference. I apologized, if my email came out looking strange with chopped up/ uneven sentences,etc. I have to check into that:-( ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing
On 05/11/2012 05:18 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: I appreciate the time you put into this. It was no problem at all:-) had fun comparing. Now that I'm free and have more time I went over the 3rd edition table of contents and found a few instances that mentions FreeBSD. In chapter Adding a Disk describes the FFS, shows a freebsd fstab example file and teaches how to add a disk in FreeBSD,etc. I Continued glancing at the contents and it appears the rest of the book is pretty much on subjects that apply to all UNIX OS. the fourth edition text has for some reason basically traded FreeBSD for AIX -- which makes little sense to me. I found a site that it kinda shows that this is was happened, AIX replaced FreeBSD:-( mid way through the site shows the 4th edition only focuses on redhat, opensuse, rhel, solaris, HPUX and IBM AIX. http://www.admin.com/ I ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing
On 05/10/2012 03:45 PM, Alejandro Imass wrote: Regarding Nemeth's I am undecided between the 4th (Unix Linux) or the 3rd. Please advise. i purchased the third edition because I took a look in the 4th the table of contents and it appears anything FreeBSD related was remove and it only focuses on: Solaris Linux( red hat ubuntu) and AIX. However third edition mentions BSDs table of contents of 4th edition. http://www.amazon.com/Linux-System-Administration-Handbook-Edition/dp/0131480057/ref=sr_1_1?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1336698969; sr=1-1#reader_0131480057 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing
On 04/30/2012 10:58 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: Reading_both_ of McKusick's Design of .. books, and the 'Unix System Admininstration Handbook', by Nemeth, et al. is a good_start_. Having a bunch of the books from O'Reilley Assoc. (http://www.ora.com), especially for 'standard' tools that you need to get the most out of, is also highly recommended. After realising I lack ton of knowledge, especially how the internals work. I'm using this advice:-) . ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: which filesytems zfs needs to function
On 04/30/2012 05:52 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: The filesystems are mostly arbitrary. You really only need the rootfs with appropriate directories underneath. The list provided is simply a concise idealized layout. Thanks!. I will try creating different filesytems to further my learning of zfs. :-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing
On 05/01/2012 06:43 AM, Polytropon wrote: Except buying (good) books, you can also search for articles on the web. For example, A Fast File System for UNIX by M. K. McKusick is very interesting (at least it was for me when I lost all my important data). Some fs-related articles here: http://www.mckusick.com/articles.html They help you to understand how things work or what maybe makes them stop working.:-) Also the documentation of tools like TSK (ports/sleuthkit), ex TCT, is very helpful in understanding all the low-level details that_really_ matter when you_need_ to get your hands dirty in order to perform a forensic analysis or to recover important data. Sadly, that documentation has moved from local storage in/usr/local/share/doc/sleuthkit/ (where I've seen it the last time) to some on-line place or Wiki, something_I_ consider a bad idea especially in worst case considerations (i. e. no internet connection); the only content in README.txt, The docs that used to live in this directory now exist on the wiki: http://wiki.sleuthkit.org/ doesn't make it any better, sorry. Thanks for the help...I will definitely check McKusick site and the docs I'm self learning UNIX/programming. so I need all the info and help I can get.:-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing
On 04/30/2012 08:38 AM, Alejandro Imass wrote: just not very helpful or fun. This attitude will get He is helping,you need to learn how UFS, jails, nullfs, journaling, disk I/O and other stuff work. I have been following this thread and i must admit I also need to learn more on those subjects.:-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing
On 04/30/2012 10:22 AM, Alejandro Imass wrote: Oh, please! He's not helping anyone. He's just being an obnoxious prick that thinks that by pointing out a lot of technical blabber and some cheap philosophical posé I guess i was going according to the fact that i have followed his suggestions on a problem i was having and i was able to find the cause and solved the problem. :-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
which filesytems zfs needs to function
Hi, I was running FreeBSD 9.0 using ZFS with the following setup on one harddrive: *(5) Create appropriate filesystems (feel free to improvise!).* zfs create zroot/usr zfs create zroot/usr/home zfs create zroot/var zfs create-o compression=on-o exec=on-o setuid=off zroot/tmp zfs create-o compression=lzjb-o setuid=off zroot/usr/ports zfs create-o compression=off-o exec=off-o setuid=off zroot/usr/ports/distfiles zfs create-o compression=off-o exec=off-o setuid=off zroot/usr/ports/packages zfs create-o compression=lzjb-o exec=off-o setuid=off zroot/usr/src zfs create-o compression=lzjb-o exec=off-o setuid=off zroot/var/crash zfs create-o exec=off-o setuid=off zroot/var/db zfs create-o compression=lzjb-o exec=on-o setuid=off zroot/var/db/pkg zfs create-o exec=off-o setuid=off zroot/var/empty zfs create-o compression=lzjb-o exec=off-o setuid=off zroot/var/log zfs create-o compression=gzip -o exec=off-o setuid=off zroot/var/mail zfs create-o exec=off-o setuid=off zroot/var/run zfs create-o compression=lzjb-o exec=on-o setuid=off zroot/var/tmp from: http://www.aisecure.net/2012/01/16/rootzfs/ However I decided to reinstall FreeBSD such for thisparticular reason:-) to see if is possible to create lessfilesystems, if so, which ones in order for zfs to work properly or are the ones mention up above required, even though it says feel free to improvise? Hope gave all needed info:-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing
On 04/28/2012 11:16 AM, Alejandro Imass wrote: That is what worries me, is that it wasn't just some random bit or cosmic ray, but the potential of happening again. I am not so sure that it is*impossible* that a jail could affect other jails with EzJail. Sorry I'm late to the party. How about contacting EZjail and explaining what has happen:-) it may be a bug? http://erdgeist.org/arts/software/ezjail/#Author ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity
On 04/08/2012 05:40 AM, Tony wrote: Hello! As much as I love FreeBSD, I'm a bit alarmed by its webdesign / corporate identity. Since FreeBSD is the world's best OS, I believe it should have a design that reflects this. A design that is so neutral and stripped of any unnecessary details that the user's attention is directed straight on to the content as opposed to how the content looks. A design that you can look at over and over without getting annoyed. The current design is an uneven mix of various styles, and seems more forced than well thought out. First you have the shiny Satanic 3D-lookalike logo (yes, despite what y'all say, it's still Satanic) that might look cool the first few times one looks at it. Now though it's more like what the hell *is* that thing anyway? (ref: Tres Logoshttp://www.amazon.com/Tres-Logos-Robert-Klanten/dp/3899552679/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1332777820sr=8-1 ) Then you have a surrounding layout trying to cater to that logo, but fails miserably as it was made by programmers as opposed to people with an actual education in designhttp://www.royalacademy.org.uk/. There is no natural flowhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laminar_flow and the whole thing just comes off as cornyhttp://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=corny - and this makes us all look bad. I also hear PostgreSQLhttp://www.postgresql.org/is planning to sue FreeBSD for stealing its design. I propose a new, supersimple look for FreeBSD based on Helveticahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkoX0pEwSCw. No devil logo, no bells and whistles, just straight forward FreeBSD - the world's best operating system. So simple that hardly anything it will go out of fashion and need to be replaced, so simple that it'll remain as current now as it will be a hundred years from now. Perfection is achieved, not when there's nothing left to add, but when there's nothing left to take away. Tony http://siegelgale.com/http://www.designcouncil.org.uk/ http://www.designcouncil.org.uk/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Now your are starting to sound like a troll. get lost ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: need help in freebsd
On 03/25/2012 04:36 PM, Stanley Aisi wrote: hi there, i need your help in freebsd regards, Stanley papua new guinea ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org One is seeking the wrong kind of help... http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/article.html#AEN114 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Editor With NO Shell Access?
On 03/12/2012 03:10 PM, Polytropon wrote: /etc/shells to work, but a passwd entry like bob:*:1234:1234:Two-loop-Bob:/home/bob:/usr/local/bin/joe I think this would not let the user to login,etc ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Editor With NO Shell Access?
On 03/12/2012 03:23 PM, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:19:51 -0700, Edward M. wrote: On 03/12/2012 03:10 PM, Polytropon wrote: /etc/shells to work, but a passwd entry like bob:*:1234:1234:Two-loop-Bob:/home/bob:/usr/local/bin/joe I think this would not let the user to login,etc I'm not sure... I assume logging in is handled by /usr/bin/login, and control is then (i. e. after successful login) transferred to the login shell, which is the program specified in the shell field (see man 5 passwd) of /etc/passwd. How is login supposed to know if the program specified in this field is actually a dialog shell? From man 1 login I read that many shells have a built-in login command, but /usr/bin/login is the system's default binary for this purpose if the shell (quotes deserved if it is an editor as shown in my assumption) has no capability of performing a login. Now i gotta try this out. Off to hosed my system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Editor With NO Shell Access?
On 03/12/2012 03:47 PM, Edward M. wrote: On 03/12/2012 03:23 PM, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:19:51 -0700, Edward M. wrote: On 03/12/2012 03:10 PM, Polytropon wrote: /etc/shells to work, but a passwd entry like bob:*:1234:1234:Two-loop-Bob:/home/bob:/usr/local/bin/joe I think this would not let the user to login,etc I'm not sure... I assume logging in is handled by /usr/bin/login, and control is then (i. e. after successful login) transferred to the login shell, which is the program specified in the shell field (see man 5 passwd) of /etc/passwd. How is login supposed to know if the program specified in this field is actually a dialog shell? From man 1 login I read that many shells have a built-in login command, but /usr/bin/login is the system's default binary for this purpose if the shell (quotes deserved if it is an editor as shown in my assumption) has no capability of performing a login. Now i gotta try this out. Off to hosed my system. Does not work. Could not login, it shows Couldn't open *-joerc. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Editor With NO Shell Access?
On 03/12/2012 05:33 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Mon Mar 12 17:46:04 2012 Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:47:59 -0700 From: Edward M.eam1edw...@gmail.com To: Polytroponfree...@edvax.de Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Editor With NO Shell Access? On 03/12/2012 03:23 PM, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:19:51 -0700, Edward M. wrote: On 03/12/2012 03:10 PM, Polytropon wrote: /etc/shells to work, but a passwd entry like bob:*:1234:1234:Two-loop-Bob:/home/bob:/usr/local/bin/joe I think this would not let the user to login,etc I'm not sure... I assume logging in is handled by /usr/bin/login, and control is then (i. e. after successful login) transferred to the login shell, which is the program specified in the shell field (see man 5 passwd) of /etc/passwd. How is login supposed to know if the program specified in this field is actually a dialog shell? From man 1 login I read that many shells have a built-in login command, but /usr/bin/login is the system's default binary for this purpose if the shell (quotes deserved if it is an editor as shown in my assumption) has no capability of performing a login. Now i gotta try this out. Off to hosed my system. If other configuration is set up right (e.g. /etc/shells), you can name *any* executable as the 'shell' field in /etc/passwd, and have it work. Long, long, ago, I used this for client 'on demand' system back-up. They just put the tape in the drive, and logged in as the 'backup' user. *HOWEVER* this is -not- a solution for the OP's problem, as a skilled, _malicious_, user can change, say, vi(1)'s idea of what executable it should invoke when a '!', or '!!' command is issued. I tried it out of curiosity to see if it was possible to login in joe, by the way the OS was configure. However my knowledge is not advance to continue, got stock on the message cannot not find *-joerc :-) Regards Ed ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: port to package amd64 to i386
On 03/05/2012 12:42 AM, Bernt Hansson wrote: Build the port on amd64 and install it on i386 as a package. Is it possible? Pointers? Handholding? How-to? http://filipenf.wordpress.com/2011/10/18/cross-compiling-for-x86-in-freebsd-64-bit/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: PC-BSD on top of FreeBSD - does it matter ?
On 03/04/2012 12:27 AM, jb wrote: But ..., the charm disappeared when I (intentionally ?) pulled ethernet plug and started update manager ... Classic example of fallacious reasoning. update manager needs the internet to access the updates ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
