Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread michael copeland
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Bill Campbell free...@celestial.comwrote:

 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009, Jerry McAllister wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 01:29:34PM -0800, Chris Knight wrote:
 
  Damn, that is the funniest thing I have seen in years.
 
 You might try posting a helpful response instead of trying
 to be insulting.
 
 You might explain to the person, who apparently does not understand
 the net, that it would be impossible to remove all references with
 his name because within minutes of it being posted to the list
 it is mirrored and archived in many many places over which the list
 manager has no control - in fact does not even know about.  One example
 of those is Google.  FreeBSD has no control over what Google stores.
 But, there are many other sites that input this stuff, mung it according
 to their interests and make it available on the net.

 Many years ago we hosted the original CDDB database (identifies
 music CDs), and I got at least one complaint from somebody whose
 name appeared in a song title saying to remove it or else.

 I have had people ask to remove things from the Mailman archives
 of lists we host, who backed off when I asked for my normal
 hourly rate to (a) figure out how pipermail works, and (b) deal
 with removing their messages.  I added that there are hundreds of
 people receiving these messages around the world who may have
 them archived as well, not to mention google.  I never heard from
 them again.

 Bill

snip

i'm not sure why being seen in google is a bad thing. unless you're Mark
Rich or something. If you're overly concerned, maybe you could just contact
google and they would be willing to suit you for a small fee, perhaps your
soul.

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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread michael copeland
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 04:33:26PM -0800, Chris Knight wrote:

  On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu
 wrote:
   On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 01:29:34PM -0800, Chris Knight wrote:
  
   Damn, that is the funniest thing I have seen in years.
  
   You might try posting a helpful response instead of trying
   to be insulting.
 
  I wasn't trying to be insulting. I was trying to be funny.
 
  Apparently, you don't know the difference; which is in fact an insult
  in case you think I was trying to be funny.

 To make fun of someone's ignorance is not humorous.
 It is offensive and small.

 jerry


 
  -Chris
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can't you jest about something with someone? you don' t have to be
offensive.

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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread michael copeland
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 7:52 PM, will...@futurecis.com wrote:

 Let the flaming begin

 Or continue..meh!

 --Original Message--
 From: michael copeland
 Sender: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org
 To: Jerry McAllister
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Sent: Feb 10, 2009 19:50
 Subject: Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote:

  On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 04:33:26PM -0800, Chris Knight wrote:
 
   On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu
  wrote:
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 01:29:34PM -0800, Chris Knight wrote:
   
Damn, that is the funniest thing I have seen in years.
   
You might try posting a helpful response instead of trying
to be insulting.
  
   I wasn't trying to be insulting. I was trying to be funny.
  
   Apparently, you don't know the difference; which is in fact an insult
   in case you think I was trying to be funny.
 
  To make fun of someone's ignorance is not humorous.
  It is offensive and small.
 
  jerry
 
 
  
   -Chris
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 can't you jest about something with someone? you don' t have to be
 offensive.

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 Sent from my BlackBerry(R) wireless device


no flaming here.

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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread michael copeland
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Chris Knight boh...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote:
 
  To make fun of someone's ignorance is not humorous.
  It is offensive and small.

 We are going to have to agree to disagree.  It is my opinion that to
 make fun of someone's _stupidity_ is offensive.  Stupidity, like the
 lack of a sense of humor, is a disability that can not be cured.
 Ignorance, which is easily cured, is something that we all suffer from
 time to time and is therefore a more universal point of humor.

 Cheers,

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and if someone is ignorant of their stupidity?

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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread michael copeland
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca wrote:

 Chris Knight wrote:
  On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu
 wrote:
  To make fun of someone's ignorance is not humorous.
  It is offensive and small.
 
  We are going to have to agree to disagree.

 I read in a posting recently by a very, very prominent and respected
 member of the Internet community that agreeing to disagree is very
 disrespectful.

 In other words, you are accepting the fact that someone is wrong without
 finding a solution.

 Jerry made a very valid point. Jerry has made countless hundreds of
 posts to this list, many of which are directed at helping the newcomer
 settle in. _Any_ poking fun at someone whatsoever is unacceptable, and
 that is non-disputable.

  It is my opinion that to
  make fun of someone's _stupidity_ is offensive.  Stupidity, like the
  lack of a sense of humor, is a disability that can not be cured.
  Ignorance, which is easily cured, is something that we all suffer from
  time to time and is therefore a more universal point of humor.

 It is not a point of humour to those who do not know any better. A
 softer, more gentle approach would be appropriate here.

 Even if *you* think it is humorous, have you ever known anyone, or had
 any children with any sort of anxiety issues? I'm sure you haven't, or
 you wouldn't be arguing with Mr. McAllister, and you surely wouldn't be
 defending your post.

 Perhaps by have to agree to disagree means that you will rephrase a
 response to the OP directly that explains the 'hows' and 'whys' of the
 non-feasibility of the request...

 Cheers,

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on a side note, i can't believe this has kept going

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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread michael copeland
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Bill Campbell free...@celestial.comwrote:

 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009, Chris Knight wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 5:16 PM, michael copeland
 michael.copel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  and if someone is ignorant of their stupidity?
 
 Then Gary Larson puts them in a Far Side Comic.  :)

 Every person is ignorant about far more things than they
 understand well, as is well put in the sayings:

A man who knows not and knows he knows not is a wise mane.

A man who knows not and knows not he knows not is a fool.

 One of my favorite quotes, which is particularly apt today in
 light of the ignorance being displayed in D.C. is:

 It is no crime to be ignorant of economics, which is, after
 all, a specialized discipline and one that most people consider
 to be a 'dismal science.' But it is totally irresponsible to
 have a loud and vociferous opinion on economic subjects while
 remaining in this state of ignorance.  -- Murray N. Rothbard

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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread michael copeland
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:45 PM, michael copeland 
michael.copel...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Bill Campbell free...@celestial.comwrote:

 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009, Chris Knight wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 5:16 PM, michael copeland
 michael.copel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  and if someone is ignorant of their stupidity?
 
 Then Gary Larson puts them in a Far Side Comic.  :)

 Every person is ignorant about far more things than they
 understand well, as is well put in the sayings:

A man who knows not and knows he knows not is a wise mane.

A man who knows not and knows not he knows not is a fool.

 One of my favorite quotes, which is particularly apt today in
 light of the ignorance being displayed in D.C. is:

 It is no crime to be ignorant of economics, which is, after
 all, a specialized discipline and one that most people consider
 to be a 'dismal science.' But it is totally irresponsible to
 have a loud and vociferous opinion on economic subjects while
 remaining in this state of ignorance.  -- Murray N. Rothbard

 Bill

 Bill, it is my firm belief, nee understanding that everyone in D.C is
ignorant or more factually, a criminal.
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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread michael copeland
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca wrote:

 michael copeland wrote:

  on a side note, i can't believe this has kept going

 Either can I. It's a flame-war, and I became part of it (tsk).

 I just so want this list to be a good place for newcomers as I once was,
 that I'd rather try to keep the list clean, and very much dislike it
 when someone tries to challenge the integrity of a very well respected,
 long term member of the list.

 This thread is done for me now. Bring back on the IPv6 questions

 Steve

sure thing buddy.
why does ipv6 irritate the hell out of me? :-D
i guess its the really odd jump of having to remember the address schematic.
an on top of that, i breaks my software so bad that we're dropping some code
that has worked for 20 years. but hey, its an improvement right?


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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread michael copeland
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:52 PM, prad p...@towardsfreedom.com wrote:

 On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:38:26 -0500
 Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca wrote:

  Jerry made a very valid point.
 
 i think so too.

 assuming that constantin was sincere in his request, a simple
 explanation as to what the difficulties are would have sufficed. we can
 personally and/or anonymously find such a thing humorous, but it is
 probably best not to make mockery of this sort of thing publically.

 --
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 hindsite=20/20
i agree now that i think about it.
but what about the ipv6?!

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Re: laptop battery + i2c bus reprogramming

2009-01-13 Thread Michael Copeland



Dan Nelson wrote:

In the last episode (Jan 10), michael said:
  

several of my laptop batteries(L-ION) have an i2c bus to the eeprom
inside the case. is it possible to reprogram or reset a battery i
have repacked from within freebsd or will i need to do this with the
available windows programs?
what i'm asking is if freebsd actually supports sending of data over
the i2c bus from userland.



The iic driver seems to provide ioctls for userland manipulation; as
long as you know what to send (and assuming the kernel driver finds the
i2c chip), it should work.

  
I noticed the same things, but I wasn't sure if any of the real ground 
work had been done. I've been replacing the cells in my batteries for a 
while now because I get 40-60% more gain from home built compared to new 
batteries from the manufacturer. I'm just tired of the licensing from 
the software I was using because it limits how many eeproms you can re 
flash.


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Re: NFS or an alternative?

2009-01-13 Thread Michael Copeland



Chuck Swiger wrote:

On Jan 12, 2009, at 9:56 PM, Jay Hall wrote:
I am in the process of redesigning my organization's network.  And, 
since we will be using mostly Macintosh OS X clients, I am 
considering using NFS.  However, I will need the ability to perform 
user/group authentication since users may not always log in from the 
same PC.


Essentially, each user has a home directory which only they, and 
possibly their secretary, needs to have access to.  And, we have 
directories which groups of people need access to.


Given the above requirements, Samba/CIFS is probably a better match 
for what you are doing that NFS would be.
you could try webdav. apple's iDisk. i have used this on our corporate 
network for a while now, and allows mounting from any workstation.


From the reading I have done this evening, my understanding is NFSv4 
will meet all of these needs.  Is this correct?  And, is there a 
better way to accomplish this?


Note that Apple only ships NFSv3-aware software, and I'm not sure 
whether FreeBSD supports NFSv4 yet either.  There appears to be 
external work here:


  http://snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca/nfsv4/
  http://www.citi.umich.edu/projects/nfsv4/

...which you might look into.

Regards,

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Re: Restore deleted files

2009-01-09 Thread Michael Copeland



Polytropon wrote:

Hi,

I'd like to ask a two-stage question:

1. Is it possible to recover files that have been deleted?

2. Which tools or procedures are suggested for recovery?

While sorting out some files and transfering them to another
hard disk, I accidentally deleted too much: the directory with
my videos taken by a digital camera. They were located in a
directory within a subtree, and I deleted the whole subtree
without first copying these files.

I used the Midnight Commander to do this. As I read from its
source code, it seems to use the unlink() call to delete the
subtree recursively. Pressing PF8 can really ruin your day...

Just after I noticed what I had done I unmounted the file system,
powered off the machine and put the disk on the shelf (it's still
there), no further write accesses.

I would be glad if someone could enlighten me if there is any
chance to get the files back, even with the loss of the file
names (doesn't matter), and which tools seem to serve best in
this difficult task.

And if it's impossible, please tell me. I can newfs the disk
then and free it, along with my mind.




PS.
I'm posting this question to -fs, too. Answers from this list
please keep me in CC because I'm not subscribed to -fs. Thank you!
  
See if this can help you, it recognizes and recovers files based on 
headers, data structures, etc. not names.

http://foremost.sourceforge.net/
this along with a couple of the other tools people have mentioned should 
get you back to where you need to be.

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Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager

2009-01-09 Thread Michael Copeland
why not just add loader or whatever to the windows boot loader.. unless 
you specifically need fbsd boot manager


Grant Peel wrote:

Hi all,

For those that have been following this thread:

I now have Norton GoBack uninstalled and un-hooked from the MBR
-Had to go to Symantec and get a rescue disk,
-The rescue disk tried to un-hook GOBAck from the MBR,
   -It found the MBR borken (due to the FreeBSD Boot Manager install),
   -So the rescue disk ran all night restoring the original C-Drive,

-As of this morning, I once again have a bottoable windows system,
-FreeBSD 6.4 is intalled, but,

-I have not boot manager so I cant get to the FReeBSD installation.

Can someone (please!) explain how to install the FreeBSD boot manager 
again?


THanks all,

-Grant
- Original Message - From: Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca
To: Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com
Cc: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager



Grant Peel wrote:

So then,

IF we are able to restore the Windows MBR, and boot into windows, 
should

we not be able to boot the machine with a bootable FreeBSD disk, then,
use Sysinstall to restore the FreeBSD boot manager?


Yes, that is exactly what I was getting at.

Steve
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Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager

2009-01-09 Thread Michael Copeland
also, doing it the way i suggested will still give you the option to 
re-select windows, and then from there right back to freebsd is you 
accidentally hit the wrong button. creates a nice loop.

eg: machine boots, windows shows you Windows XP or FreeBSD
you select FreeBSD, you get the menu you want from there
F1 FreeBSD
F2 Microsoft Windows
F5 DiskX
Selecting windows will take you back to the windows loader, and then you 
could select windows or freebsd.


Grant Peel wrote:

Hi Mike,

I am not at all sure whate you are suggesting here?

What I am asking, is, somehting like:

Can I reboot the machine with the FreeBSD install disk, and using the 
sysinstall utility, reinstall the freebsd boot manger so I wind up with:


F1 Windows
F2 FreeBSD
F5 Disk1

-Grant



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To: Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager


why not just add loader or whatever to the windows boot loader.. 
unless you specifically need fbsd boot manager


Grant Peel wrote:

Hi all,

For those that have been following this thread:

I now have Norton GoBack uninstalled and un-hooked from the MBR
-Had to go to Symantec and get a rescue disk,
-The rescue disk tried to un-hook GOBAck from the MBR,
   -It found the MBR borken (due to the FreeBSD Boot Manager install),
   -So the rescue disk ran all night restoring the original 
C-Drive,


-As of this morning, I once again have a bottoable windows system,
-FreeBSD 6.4 is intalled, but,

-I have not boot manager so I cant get to the FReeBSD installation.

Can someone (please!) explain how to install the FreeBSD boot 
manager again?


THanks all,

-Grant
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To: Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com
Cc: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager



Grant Peel wrote:

So then,

IF we are able to restore the Windows MBR, and boot into windows, 
should
we not be able to boot the machine with a bootable FreeBSD disk, 
then,

use Sysinstall to restore the FreeBSD boot manager?


Yes, that is exactly what I was getting at.

Steve
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Re: Problem compiling gnome2

2009-01-09 Thread Michael Copeland



rg wrote:

Hello,

I am trying to compile gnome2, but libggz fails to compile because of 
missing library: gcrypt1.5. It does on to complile security/libgcrypt, 
but evidently the current version 1.4.3 doesn't help much. How can I 
fight with this beast?


Thank you.

i would assume upgrade to 1.5

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Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager

2009-01-09 Thread Michael Copeland
well, there are many easy ways. one is to install an IFS version of 
UFS, if you're using ufs. that way windows can read the ufs slices and 
you can grab your file that way.


Grant Peel wrote:

Mike,

In order to do that, I need to be able to get the the /boot/boot1 
file that is located in the root of the FreeBSD installation. As of 
right now, I cant get to it, because I can't boot to FreeBSD (chicken 
and egg).


Any ideas?

-Grant

In the instructions link you sent:

9.10. How can I use the Windows NT® loader to boot FreeBSD?
The general idea is that you copy the first sector of your native root 
FreeBSD partition into a file in the DOS/Windows NT partition. 
Assuming you name that file something like c:\bootsect.bsd (inspired 
by c:\bootsect.dos), you can then edit the c:\boot.ini file to come up 
with something like this:


[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS=Windows NT
C:\BOOTSECT.BSD=FreeBSD
C:\=DOS
If FreeBSD is installed on the same disk as the Windows NT boot 
partition simply copy /boot/boot1 to C:\BOOTSECT.BSD. However, if 
FreeBSD is installed on a different disk /boot/boot1 will not work, 
/boot/boot0 is needed.








- Original Message - From: Michael Copeland 
michael.copel...@gmail.com

To: Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager



Hello Grant,

What I am suggesting is adding a freebsd entry to your windows boot 
loader. it is quite easy.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/disks.html#NT-BOOTLOADER
rather than having to deal with using sysinstall, usually its just as 
simple to add these entries to the windows loader.




Grant Peel wrote:

Hi Mike,

I am not at all sure whate you are suggesting here?

What I am asking, is, somehting like:

Can I reboot the machine with the FreeBSD install disk, and using 
the sysinstall utility, reinstall the freebsd boot manger so I wind 
up with:


F1 Windows
F2 FreeBSD
F5 Disk1

-Grant



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michael.copel...@gmail.com

To: Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager


why not just add loader or whatever to the windows boot loader.. 
unless you specifically need fbsd boot manager


Grant Peel wrote:

Hi all,

For those that have been following this thread:

I now have Norton GoBack uninstalled and un-hooked from the MBR
-Had to go to Symantec and get a rescue disk,
-The rescue disk tried to un-hook GOBAck from the MBR,
   -It found the MBR borken (due to the FreeBSD Boot Manager 
install),
   -So the rescue disk ran all night restoring the original 
C-Drive,


-As of this morning, I once again have a bottoable windows system,
-FreeBSD 6.4 is intalled, but,

-I have not boot manager so I cant get to the FReeBSD installation.

Can someone (please!) explain how to install the FreeBSD boot 
manager again?


THanks all,

-Grant
- Original Message - From: Steve Bertrand 
st...@ibctech.ca

To: Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com
Cc: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com; 
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager



Grant Peel wrote:

So then,

IF we are able to restore the Windows MBR, and boot into 
windows, should
we not be able to boot the machine with a bootable FreeBSD disk, 
then,

use Sysinstall to restore the FreeBSD boot manager?


Yes, that is exactly what I was getting at.

Steve
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Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager

2009-01-09 Thread Michael Copeland



Jerry McAllister wrote:

On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 09:33:12PM -0500, Grant Peel wrote:

  

Can I use a windows install cd's R option to do the fdisk /mbr ?



Maybe.But, MS software is notorious for not recognizing any
other OSen nor being able to boot them   So, use the FreeBSD fdisk
which will plant the FreeBSD MBR.

jerry

  
has this issue been resolved? what route did you choose to accomplish 
your task?
  

-Grant

- Original Message - 
From: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com

To: Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager




On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com wrote:
  

Hi all,

I was bored earlier tonight and I decided to tinker a bit with FreeBSD 
6.4 on my Windows XP SP3 box.


In that machine, there is one SATA drive.

On that drive, there was about 100 GB of free space, so I decided to try 
putting FreeBSD 6.4 on it.


During the install, I opted to use the Free BSD boot manage. The install 
went flawlessly.


The problem is, when I boot up I get:

F1 ??
F2 FreeBSD
F5 Disk1

F2, is obviously, the new installation of FreeBSD 6.4, which boots 
perfectly.

F5 is a spare SCSI disk connected to an Initio controller.

F1 is the probelem. Windose no longer boots. When I select F2, I simply 
get the cursor on a new line, and nothing happens.


Like this:

F1 ??
F2 FreeBSD
F5 Disk1
_

Any idea what I might need to do to make windows work again?

It may be worth mentioning, I had Norton GoBack running on the disk 
before I installed FreeBSD, although I am not aware if it does anything 
to the booting system.


All suggestions welcome,

-Grant


www.bootdisk.com

Find a bootable floppy image there that includes a DOS fdisk, and
write it out to a floppy disk.

Boot your machine with that floppy, and at the DOS prompt, type 'fdisk
/mbr' - it will write a standard boot sector, and Windows should boot
again.

Of course, this will not allow you to boot to your new FreeBSD
installation, but with other folks' help, you can probably overcome
that - probably with GRUB, or another boot manager.

Kurt
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