Re: When Unix Stops Being Fun
Ted Mittelstaedt [Sat, Oct 02, 2004 at 10:46:05PM -0700]: As an analogy - there's lots of people that know how to pull into a service station and add air to their car tires. But out of all those people that have learned how to do this only a tenth of them know that tire pressure rises when the tire gets warmer, and of those people, only another tenth WOULD ASSUME THAT THIS WOULD BE THE CASE IF THEY THOUGHT ABOUT IT because they actually understand what gas pressure is. And if one of the people in that group had never added air in his life to a tire, and you told him to go do it, he would not only be able to go do it, he would be able to add exactly the correct amount of air needed for the tire. I really liked that part about a sciencist! On the other hand, I think it is too enthusiastic, applying theory to practice needs a few things more... :) -- m ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Open Office?
h.kriege [Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 10:11:41AM +0200]: Hi there, Will Open Offoice run on Free BSD? Hello, Yes - both native and linux Open Offoice work. -- m signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Is there a /dev/video in freebsd?
David [Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 03:49:01AM -0400]: I am using freebsd 5.2. Xawtv has a command called streamer to capture video/audio from /dev/video. I cannot find /dev/video in freebsd. Which kind of TV card do you have? -- m signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Is there a /dev/video in freebsd?
David [Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 10:29:52AM -0400]: Hi, I figure out how to disable attachment viewing. That was my PGP signature. I am using a Hauppauge wintv card which uses the bt878 chipset. I also used that once. All information about it on FreeBSD (oh, almost all, use links) can be found here: http://telepresence.dmem.strath.ac.uk/bt848/ . IIRC, fxtv worked for me with that. -- m signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Compilation
Carlos Torchia [Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 06:02:43AM +0100]:
Hi. I can't compile a program using the G2 graphics
library. When I tried compiling the program the first
time, cc said it didn't know that g2.h was in
/usr/local/include, which I think is pretty stupid.
Anyway, I put /usr/local/include and /usr/local/lib in
the -I and -L parameters respectively.
Yes, that's correct. You need to pass -I and -L each time you compile a
program, that has its libs / includes not in /usr/{lib,include} .
There are 3 options: use Linux (which has almost everything in /usr/include
and /usr/lib, but you still have to pass -I and -L sometimes, for postgresql
for example); symlink all files in /usr/X11R6/{lib,include} and
/usr/local/{lib,include} in your /usr/{lib,include} - which will clobber up
your filesystem a bit; learn to write / use Makefiles or pkg-config stuff.
For example, you could write Makefile like:
myprogram: myprogram.c
$(CC) -o myprogram `gtk-config --libs --cflags` myprogram.c
Then it saw
the header and library files, but there were constant
errors saying that there were undefined references to
X11 functions within libg2.a.
Aye! That's why you specify -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 and some more stuff on
gcc command line.
Too hard, too complicated, takes too much time? Well. Either write a good
makefile, or try to learn some IDE for GCC (anjuta, kdevelop), which can
propably take care of this automatically. I think, that learning
automake/autoconf (the scripts, that generate configure script, that
autodetects library locations) can be hard/unneeded for you at the moment.
and how to redirect error output from
programs to files (or pipe them), because everything I
need to now about Unix or FreeBSD comes from 72 hours of
trying to figure out how to make a directory or something.
Google is your friend:
http://www.bo.infn.it/alice/alice-doc/mll-doc/usrgde/node18.html
I'm sorry, but I just can't do anything in this operating
system. I mean, finally I've found a library that makes
it simple to simply plot a pixel in a window without
spending hours looking for a GTK tutorial that will tell
me about this stupid graphics context stuff that I don't
even know. And now I gotta figure out about this stupid
g2 thing. Ok. Well anyway, thanks for any help you can
give me.
If you just want to get the job done, I'd suggest Python. You don't care
about compilation, libraries, other stuff - and it is extremely simple to
draw stuff using PyGTK -
http://www.moeraki.com/pygtktutorial/pygtk2tutorial/ch-DrawingArea.html
If graphics context stuff bothers you, well, that's somehow standard way
to draw stuff, well, X has it and win32 also has it :) If you want to use
something like a framebuffer, I am sure you can find something, no matter if
in GTK or X11 (I'd suggest XSHM extension for framebuffer-like stuff, but
well, I've written my last pure-X11 application about 5 years ago, and I'm
sure, that things have changed).
Hope this helps. Don't get frustrated - spend another 72 hours actually
reading the docs, unix is simple, but sometimes not as simple, as you may
suppose :)
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Re: doc
muhammad javed [Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 10:08:41AM +]: sir my name is javed. i want to learn learn unix opreating stystam .it is possible to send me free book or basics documents. i am great full to you. Hello Javed, You can download FreeBSD handbook here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html FreeBSD FAQ is also interesting: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/index.html Check also this section of FreeBSD for newbies: http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html#unix Another big repository of documentation are Linux HOWTOs - many of them aren't really linux specific: http://www.tldp.org/docs.html#howto Have fun, -- m ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: memory test
adrian kok [Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 02:29:57AM +0800]: Hi all Suse linux startup has linux testing feature Well, you can also get a Linux kernel with httpd built-in :) To test your memory, use http://memtest86.com Sincerely, -- m signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD
David O'Brien [Sat, Jun 26, 2004 at 04:00:26PM -0700]: You do know you can run FreeBSD/i386 on the Athlon64 3200+ laptop, right? :-) A 3200+ running 32-bit FreeBSD will out-perform the P4 2.8GHz running the same OS. ... but will it outperform it also by heat dissipation? -- m ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: setting xterm font from the command line
Robert Huff [Thu, Jun 24, 2004 at 09:05:49AM -0400]: Michael A. Smith writes: xfontsel works great and works fine for the sample string above (Bitstream Charter), but xterm barfs on font strings that have spaces, for example: -bitstream-bitstream vera sans mono-*-r-normal-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* As far as I know, a correct fontspec has no spaces. Try replacing the ' 's with '-'s and see what happens. No, it can. Dash is a separator of given fields in font specification, so what you just said is totally wrong. -- m ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: voice talk between 2 FBSD boxs
JJB [Sun, Jun 06, 2004 at 01:13:31PM -0400]: Is there an 2 way voice talk command or port application between 2 unix type systems with an ms/windows version? Try: http://shtoom.sf.net/ It's in very early stage of development, but as every Python project, it is highly portable - Windows, MacOS X, Unices supported - and it can talk to VoIP phones too. HTH, -- m pgpSw9vjlb2fC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Sending a message to another computer on the network
Hasse [Sat, Jun 05, 2004 at 02:25:49PM +0200]: I'm on a FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE machine on 217.209.211.x , and would like to send a message to Win-box ( on the same network, but not my machine ) that's filling up my httpd-access.log with junk. The only thing I know is his IP-adress. What? Lookup his/hers IP via whoisdb (www.ripe.net) and report abuse to proper Internet Service Provider. Is this possible ? If it is, how. smbclient -M Or do I have to block his IP ? That's also an option. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sending messages
arden [Sat, Jun 05, 2004 at 02:45:31PM +0100]: reading the windows messaging thread with interest was wondering how you would message a *nix box on the same network ? man talk Pity it's disabled by default in many today's unices, it was a great time using it to talk with various people on the net (and, sometimes exploiting bugs in talkd ;). pgpGoYLSvFt6E.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Large window causes monitor to degauss/reset!!
Jacob Rhoden [Sun, Jun 06, 2004 at 01:24:47AM +]: I have been using freebsd for quite some time now, I have come across a machine with a 19 viewmaster, whereby if you open a window bigger than about 500x500 pixels, the monitor resets and degausses every 8 seconds until you close the window. Has anyone had this happen to them? Hardware error or X misconfigured. Try to lower resolution / refresh rate and see if problem persists. Try another video card. If degausing occurs at the lowest supported resolution and refresh rate, this is clearly hardware issue. Examine, if degausing depends on the background color of the window (try black, white, red, green, blue). pgpmjzqOpFHQZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: PHP IDE instead of Bluefish
Bruce Hunter [Sat, Jun 05, 2004 at 09:46:09PM -0400]: I have recently gotten rid of window and now only run FBSD. I am a programmer of many kinds. I program in PHP and was wondering what is a good PHP IDE? Maybe something in the ports collection. editors/xemacs works just great! :^) -- m pgpPwZFutG3iQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How to make a screenshot?
Andrew L. Gould [Fri, Jun 04, 2004 at 12:17:10PM -0500]: I flubbed my first attempt with xwd -- I need to spend more time with it's man page. Try: xwd | xwdtopnm | pnmtojpeg foo.jpg ... and xli (xloadimage) for lightweight image viewing program. Gimp, ImageMagick, ksnapshot are too heavyweight IMO if you just want a screenshot. -- m pgprFOoVKWgGO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How to make a screenshot?
JJB [Fri, Jun 04, 2004 at 01:22:27PM -0400]: DO any of the suggestions made so for work from the command line or do they all just run under x? screen has a hardcopy function (C-a h) and a log function (C-a H), if you want to play with textmode. pgpjHMgA7fFFm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ifconfig documentation
Aldinson C. Esto [Tue, Jun 01, 2004 at 09:39:11PM +0800]: Does the handbook or man page you are referring to have the documentation for each function of the ifconfig.c's source code? I really need this for our DHCP server development. ISC-DHCPD already comes with some framework for writing DHCP stuff. Perhaps you should see it, http://www.isc.org/products/DHCP/ . pgpMpE4My03R3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Profiling debugging on FreeBSD: loadable modules, profiler output, threads
Hi, I need to debug some software, written in Python (with threads), which uses dynamically loadable modules, written in C. FreeBSD version is 5.2.1-RC. All Python modules are compiled with -g -pg, so is the python binary. By default, -g -pg -pthread doesn't seem to link libc to Python binary (modules complain about missing 'strftime' on load). Any other combination of options, than -g -pg -lc_r -lc -pthread causes Python binary to dump core with sig 10 at start (with never ending _pthread_self calls in backtrace). Even if python.gmon is created, it contains only an information about calls to '__fpsetreg'. My sysctl kern.debug.threads is 1. kdump output seems to reveal: 88107 python2p3 NAMI python2p3.gmon 88107 python2p3 RET open 5 ... but only at the *end* of the log (shouldn't it be open some time earlier)? I'd appreciate any help in this matter. I need this working by yesterday. Thanks, -- Michal Pasternak :: http://pasternak.w.lub.pl :: http://winsrc.sf.net Frankly, any company would look bad if their corporate e-mail was available for anyone to read, -- Jim Dose of Ritual Entertainment. pgpOScSnwIlfy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: your mail
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mon, May 24, 2004 at 03:58:05PM +0200]: I have an older computer wich cant`t boot CD-ROM discs and I hawe two ways: -to boot from the hard disc; -or to boot from the floppy and instal it from CD-ROM. But i have no idea how to do this. Start with FreeBSD Handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-pre.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UsersFiles and Quota
Chris Collins [Mon, May 24, 2004 at 11:58:30PM -0500]: Is there a way to list files on my system that belong to a certain user. I have quotas enabled and cannot find out where all the space is being used. Common procedure is to read the docs before asking! :) man find, EXAMPLES section, 2nd example counting from top. HTH, -- m ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install Identd for FreeBSD 4.5
Hadi Surya Wijaya [Sat, May 22, 2004 at 07:26:14PM +0700]: Questions : How to Install Identd on FreeBSD 4.5 step by step ..? It is already there - uncomment proper lines in /etc/inetd.conf and restart inetd (or, make sure you're running it, it is not enabled by default) Also, if your FreeBSD is really 4.5, I'd consider updating to the latest stable version. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Errors building PHP 4.3.6
Robert Fitzpatrick [Sat, May 22, 2004 at 11:46:50AM -0400]: esmtp# ldd /usr/local/bin/psql /usr/local/bin/psql: libpq.so.3 = /usr/local/lib/libpq.so.3 (0x28096000) libkrb5.so.20 = /usr/local/lib/libkrb5.so.20 (0x280b2000) Hmm, ok, so you need to include -l parameter to the linker on the line in Makefile, that the error occures. (-lkrb5 perhaps) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Errors building PHP 4.3.6
Robert Fitzpatrick [Sat, May 22, 2004 at 12:10:11PM -0400]: On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 11:56, Michal Pasternak wrote: Robert Fitzpatrick [Sat, May 22, 2004 at 11:46:50AM -0400]: esmtp# ldd /usr/local/bin/psql /usr/local/bin/psql: libpq.so.3 = /usr/local/lib/libpq.so.3 (0x28096000) libkrb5.so.20 = /usr/local/lib/libkrb5.so.20 (0x280b2000) Hmm, ok, so you need to include -l parameter to the linker on the line in Makefile, that the error occures. (-lkrb5 perhaps) OK, trying to find that Makefile. I don't find PHP 4.3.6 under the /usr/ports, only 4.3.4. Where does portupgrade put this Makefile? I didn't mean the Makefile in ports, the error is obviously in some port work directory, but I am unable to say which one, basing on the information you supplied. -- m ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2 questions
Osmany Guirola Cruz [Sat, May 22, 2004 at 02:16:48PM -0400]: how can i know the amount of free RAM and SWAP top vmstat how can i configure my anonymmos ftp Use /stand/sysinstall for a user-friendly way to do that - Configure/Networking/Anon FTP , things like bandwith DUMMYNET traffic shaper is one of the available options: http://cs.ecs.baylor.edu/~donahoo/tools/dummy/tutorial.htm http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=dummynetsektion=4 or number ou users I don't know, what you mean by numer ou users. -- m ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: keyboard country mapping
arden [Sat, May 22, 2004 at 09:55:38PM +0100]: I'm in the UK but my install has set up my keyboard as American how can i alter it ? 2 ways: * run /stand/sysinstall and choose Keymap * man kbdcontrol, keymaps are in /usr/share/syscons/keymaps HTH, -- m ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XFree86 help...
hitokiri [Sat, May 22, 2004 at 04:51:55PM -0500]: Alright, so I recently migrated to FreeBSD and had some trouble configuring the network. I got that problem fixed for the most part now as the internet works, except when I go into X. About a minute after I get into X, my internet stops working, and I have to restart the whole computer to get it back up again. I have absolutely no clue as to what the problem might be, or how to solve it. Any suggestions? Suggestions? Here you go. Perhaps tell us more about your network configuration, tell us how does the internet stops working (can you ping anyone on LAN? what about external interface?), also tell us about your X configuration (eg. which environment / WM do you use), place .xinit and /var/log/XFree86.log.0 somewhere on the web, so we could see it. -- m ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debugging a process
Hello, I've got an Epson printer I've set up with CUPS. Unfortunatley it came out, that the program CUPS uses internally (rastertoprinter) gets some kind of lockup right after ending the page - it starts to eat up 100% CPU; CUPS gets the message Page finished, but the job stays there - and the printer device (lpt0) is in use. Well, so I did gdb, attached to the PID, typed bt... nothing. Just a few lines with addr no and question marks. I've recompiled said program (and the library it depends on) with -g in CFLAGS. Nothing. It came out, that the binary was stripped during install. I've installed unstripped binary. Still the same thing. Googled. Nothing really useful found. At this point, I feel pretty lost - I've thought, that I know, what I have to do when I want to have debugging info compiled in, and how to use gdb (I know enough to get the backtrace, which is sufficient). Any help / any ideas? -- Michal Pasternak :: http://pasternak.w.lub.pl :: http://winsrc.sf.net Frankly, any company would look bad if their corporate e-mail was available for anyone to read, -- Jim Dose of Ritual Entertainment. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debugging a process
Michal Pasternak [Fri, May 21, 2004 at 08:38:41PM +0200]: Hello, I've got an Epson printer I've set up with CUPS. Unfortunatley it came out, that the program CUPS uses internally (rastertoprinter) gets some kind of lockup right after ending the page - it starts to eat up 100% CPU; CUPS gets the message Page finished, but the job stays there - and the printer device (lpt0) is in use. Well, so I did gdb, attached to the PID, typed bt... nothing. Just a few lines with addr no and question marks. Well, I'm answering myself: $ gdb nameOfExecutableWithDebugSymbols gdb attach PID ... and, voila, that's all that it's needed. -- m ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Printing with CUPS and gimp-print-cups: anyone with same errors?
Hello, on my machine (config as in Subject:) printing with CUPS caused the command rastertoprinter to eat up 100% of CPU after finishing all the pages from a given task. I've found the possible bug and posted it, with a fix, on CUPS site: http://www.cups.org/str.php?L723+P0+S-2+C0+I0+E0+Qfreebsd Has any of you experienced similar problems? I'm interested in your comments, because I'm still not exactly clear on where the bug is exactly located: * the place I've pointed in bugreport * somewhere earlier (eg. when the socked mentioned in bugreport is being set up and it is set up in a wrong way) * not related with CUPS (FreeBSD fault? Don't think so, but that's still possible) My system is 5.2.1-RC, printer is connected via LPT port. I -- Michal Pasternak :: http://pasternak.w.lub.pl :: http://winsrc.sf.net Frankly, any company would look bad if their corporate e-mail was available for anyone to read, -- Jim Dose of Ritual Entertainment. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
System for generating C/C++ references?
Hello, I am looking for some sort of software which would allow me to generate C/C++ (and preferably other languages, like Python or PHP) references for a given project. Suppose I am browsing FreeBSD kernel, notice, that a function uses ,,struct somestruct'' as it's parameter. I want to see, what other functions use this struct and where's that struct defined. I know, that tools like find and grep might be helpful :) but it is uncomfortable to grep kernel sources every time I want to find something. I am sure I have seen projects like this, but I cant remember the name. Could you? Thanks in advance. Please CC: me, as I am not quite a subscriber of this list. Regards, -- Micha Pasternak :: http://pasternak.w.lub.pl ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
