Re: zpool not grabbing hot spare
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Matthew Seaman spaketh thusly: -} -}Yes. That's the generally accepted meaning of the concept of a 'hot -}spare.' The fact that the spare hasn't been automatically bought -}on-line in this case is a bug. There's an open PR on the subject: -} -}http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/134491 Tnx for the pointer! -} -}That seems to suggest the problem was known to be solved at some point -}in 2011, but it was not necessarily propagated to all stable branches. -}However, given your experience perhaps that is not the case. Yeah, current kernel src's (8.2-STABLE) were sup'd and rebuilt Dec 22. -} -}You should be able to use zfs commands manually to sub-in the spare -}drive and get it resilvered. -} -}As an aside -- you've got a pretty odd setup there: 41 drives all in one -}big RAIDZ2 vdev? Standard practice would be to create something like 5 -}RAIDZ2 vdevs of 8 drives each (Or maybe 6 vdevs of 7 drives apiece: 6--9 -}drives is about the sweet spot for a RAIDZ2) and then stripe those vdevs -}together to create your zpool. We looked at doing things this way, especially since it give much better performance. However, performance was less important than maximizing storage. Over the last 9 weeks we are averaging (including nighly backups): capacity operationsbandwidth poolalloc free read write read write -- - - - - - - data1.41T 8.34T 47 29 2.82M 1.31M raidz21.41T 8.34T 47 27 2.82M 1.17M da2 - - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da3 - - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da4 - - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da5 - - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da6 - - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da7 - - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da9 - - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da10- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da11- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da12- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da13- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da14- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da15- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da17- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da18- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da19- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da20- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da21- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da22- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da23- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da25- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da26- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da27- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da28- - 20 2 69.4K 30.1K da29- - 20 2 69.2K 30.1K da30- - 20 2 67.6K 29.9K da31- - 20 2 69.2K 30.1K da32- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da33- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da34- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da35- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da36- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da37- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da38- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da39- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da40- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da41- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da42- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da43- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da44- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da45- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da46- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da47- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K -- Randy(schu...@earlham.edu) 765.983.1283 <*> nosce te ipsum ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: zpool not grabbing hot spare
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Randy Schultz spaketh thusly: -} -}I thought the spare was supposed to come online and be resilvered -}automatically. Did I miss some config thing -}or did I just misunderstand how the hot spare bit works? Gah. Forgot to check the beasty forums (tnx Mark for the gentle poke). For any others not aware, the docs all say the spare is hot, but this is not accurate. See http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2012-January/013428.html Heh, shows how much I've been paying attention - I didn't even realize there was a freebsd-fs list. "But I'm feeling much better now". ;> -- Randy(schu...@earlham.edu) 765.983.1283 <*> nosce te ipsum ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
zpool not grabbing hot spare
Howdy howdy, Got a zpool that lost a drive: Feb 24 20:46:01 booto kernel: (da30:mpt3:0:6:0): lost device Feb 24 20:46:41 booto kernel: (da30:mpt3:0:6:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0xa, scsi status == 0x0 Feb 24 20:46:41 booto kernel: (da30:mpt3:0:6:0): removing device entry however the spare never came online: zpool status -v pool: data state: DEGRADED status: One or more devices has been removed by the administrator. Sufficient replicas exist for the pool to continue functioning in a degraded state. action: Online the device using 'zpool online' or replace the device with 'zpool replace'. scan: resilvered 0 in 0h2m with 0 errors on Tue Oct 25 13:40:59 2011 config: NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM dataDEGRADED 0 0 0 raidz2-0 DEGRADED 0 0 0 da2 ONLINE 0 0 0 da3 ONLINE 0 0 0 da4 ONLINE 0 0 0 da5 ONLINE 0 0 0 da6 ONLINE 0 0 0 da7 ONLINE 0 0 0 da9 ONLINE 0 0 0 da10ONLINE 0 0 0 da11ONLINE 0 0 0 da12ONLINE 0 0 0 da13ONLINE 0 0 0 da14ONLINE 0 0 0 da15ONLINE 0 0 0 da17ONLINE 0 0 0 da18ONLINE 0 0 0 da19ONLINE 0 0 0 da20ONLINE 0 0 0 da21ONLINE 0 0 0 da22ONLINE 0 0 0 da23ONLINE 0 0 0 da25ONLINE 0 0 0 da26ONLINE 0 0 0 da27ONLINE 0 0 0 da28ONLINE 0 0 0 da29ONLINE 0 0 0 da30REMOVED 0 0 0 da31ONLINE 0 0 0 da32ONLINE 0 0 0 da33ONLINE 0 0 0 da34ONLINE 0 0 0 da35ONLINE 0 0 0 da36ONLINE 0 0 0 da37ONLINE 0 0 0 da38ONLINE 0 0 0 da39ONLINE 0 0 0 da40ONLINE 0 0 0 da41ONLINE 0 0 0 da42ONLINE 0 0 0 da43ONLINE 0 0 0 da44ONLINE 0 0 0 da45ONLINE 0 0 0 da46ONLINE 0 0 0 da47ONLINE 0 0 0 logs mirror-1 ONLINE 0 0 0 da24ONLINE 0 0 0 da16ONLINE 0 0 0 spares da1 AVAIL I thought the spare was supposed to come online and be resilvered automatically. Did I miss some config thing or did I just misunderstand how the hot spare bit works? -- Randy(schu...@earlham.edu) 765.983.1283 <*> nosce te ipsum ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Ezjail & freebsd-update
On Sun, 21 Aug 2011, Rocky Borg spaketh thusly: -}I had an opportunity to upgrade a server from freebsd 8.1 to 8.2 since it had -}to be restarted any way. I upgraded it with freebsd-update and compiled a -}custom kernel with no problem. However I haven't been able to find a procedure -}for updating jails when they've been setup with ezjail. I did 'ezjail-admin -}update -u' however it doesn't seem like that upgraded things like the /etc/ -}dir inside jails. I'm not too worried since everything is working however if -}anyone can point me in the right direction I would appreciate it. I figure -}this will be especially important when moving to 9.0 when it's released. My understanding of ezjail is you just say "ezjail-admin update". Ezjail then grabs the sources and rebuilds everything. If you already have everything built locally, e.g. you csup'd the sources, did the make buildworld, etc., you can then just issue an "ezjail-admin update -i". I'm not familiar with the "-u" option to ezjail and my man pages do not show it as an option. ;> -- Randy(schu...@earlham.edu) 765.983.1283 <*> nosce te ipsum ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Making installworld got stuck on SunFire v20z (Freebsd 8.0)
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010, Lucas Wang spaketh thusly: -}I tried to install Freebsd 8.0 on one of our lab machines, which is -}SunFire v20z. After successfully installing it from CD, I followed the -}following steps trying to update the kernel and world: -} -}cvsup -}make buildworld -}make buildkernel -}make installkernel -}reboot -}mergemaster -p -}make installworld -} -}Everything was fine until the `make installworld` process run for a while and then got stuck, -}after that it won't respond to Ctrl-C. When I tried to login from another tty, it -}doesn't respond either. I even tried installing the machine from scratch -}several times, and at different times it got stuck when installing different libraries. Hard tellin'. When you tried to install from scratch, did you keep the same partitions and not force a newfs? When you rebooted, did you reboot into single-user? The steps that have never failed me are close to what you have: - csup - env -i make buildworld - env -i make buildkernel - env -i make installkernel - reboot into single user - mount -a - mergemaster -paU - make installworld - mergemaster -aU - reboot Perhaps try a re-install but fiddle a bit with the partition sizes and/or force a newfs of the partitions. Also, at the install step where you select the entire drive (assuming this is what you are doing), you can delete what's there and re-select "use the entire drive". That also forces newfs'ing. YMMV -- Randy(schu...@earlham.edu) 765.983.1283 <*> Love with your heart, think with your head; not the other way around. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: freebsd
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010, tristan spaketh thusly: -}i recently installed freebsd on my system. when i sign in to the root account, i get a prompt telling me about the documentation, then a # sign. how do i acess an interactive desktop like the one in windows/mac? Freebsd does not install a window manager by default. You have to pick one. There are many for all ranges of needs. If you do not wish to deal with installing one but want the power/stability of freebsd, look for distros that come complete with a window manager, such as pc-bsd. -- Randy(schu...@earlham.edu) 765.983.1283 <*> Love with your heart, think with your head; not the other way around. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
ipf fails after cvsup
Heya, Running a fresh install of 7.0-RELEASE. I've cvsup'd the sources, done the standard updating, e.g. make buildworld make buildkernel make installkernel (reboot) mergemaster -p make installworld mergemaster (reboot) But now ipf gives me ye olde Root Dude ? /sbin/ipf -Fa -f /etc/ipf.rules open device: No such file or directory User/kernel version check failed The ipf version is: Root Dude ? ipf -V ipf: IP Filter: v4.1.28 (512) open device: No such file or directory My supfile is pretty standard, with *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7 src-all I've had this before when I've spaced out the make installworld. I've never gotten this *after* the sync/build. Have I missed a bit of documentation somewhere? -- Randy([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 765.983.1283 <*> Love with your heart, think with your head; not the other way around. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
jails and security [was: Jails and multicore boxes]
On Fri, 16 Nov 2007, Federico Lorenzi spaketh thusly: -}> > you trying to protect? If you're worrying about getting cracked and used -}> > as a spam bot, jails are no more secure than a non-jail system. -}> -}> Maybe some qualification is needed here. -}> -}> If your mail jail gets broken into, then it will still be used as a spambot. -}> -}> But your host (the machine in which your jails run in) wouldn't have been compromised, necessarily, by the fact that the jail got compromised. Having root on a jail > (if that's what we are talking about by 'compromised' ) shouldn't affect your host machine. Unless there is some other vulnerability that can be used, of course. -} -}Thats true indeed, however many people are saying that jails do not necessarily, -}make an environment more secure. I'm not really knowledable in that area, -}but they do add another layer to the proverbial onion. I use jails, but more -}for convenience then security, if i get a new (home) server box, I can just -}move some jails across with a simple tar and then scp, and have them -}work pretty much instantly. MHO. This depends on your definition of "secure". If you have a receiving MTA then you must allow inbound on port 25. If that MTA has a security hole that allows remote access/exploitation then it really doesn't matter a whole lot what you're running on/under/in/with. You're MTA will be hijacked. MHO - the beauty of jails is threefold. First, important parts of the jail can be mounted read-only. If you use the ezjail package then this is done for you. Set up a jail with ezjail and try to create a file in, say, /usr/include. Not even root(inside the jail) can do this. Second, it allows 1 piece of hardware to do multiple things, all separated. Using a slightly contrived example, let's say a company has a piece of hardware that has plenty of power to run authentication and mail. If you put these on the system, and the MTA has a security hole, everything is suspect. Now run each in a jail. Cracking in via the MTA only allows access to mail, not authentication. Third, the parent can monitor the jails. The parent is completely blocked off from all incoming traffic except ssh from an internal net. Somebody cracks into a jail via port 22 or 23(or really, any port). They gain root access and modify the logs such that no login shows up. You look at the ipf logs on the parent and see tons of traffic to/from a.b.c.d on port 22, with TCP bits set so you know there's a conversation going on there, yet no sign of login in the jail's logs. Just some random musings. -- Randy([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 765.983.1283 <*> Love with your heart, think with your head; not the other way around. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Fwd: Static Routes, gateways and the end of my sanity
On Tue, 29 May 2007, Reuben A. Popp spaketh thusly: -} -}Hello everyone, can someone please (_please_!!) let me know what I'm doing -}wrong in the following example? I am near my wits end on implementing this, -}any suggestions are greatly appreciated! -} -}The scenario is that I have a server here with twin nics, bce0 and bce1; I -}would like bce0 to be connected to our dmz network (192.168.x.x), while bce1 -}would be on our internal network. A jail will reside on the ip assigned to -}bce0, while the regular base system will bind to bce1. -} -}My current rc.conf consists of the following: -}--- -}defaultrouter="10.228.228.254" -}ifconfig_bce0="inet 192.168.4.80 netmask 255.255.255.0" -}ifconfig_bce1="inet 10.228.228.228 media 100BaseTX mediaopt full-duplex -}netmask 255.255.255.0" -} -}# Enable Jails for multi-homed box (video) -}jail_enable="YES" -}jail_list="video" -}jail_video_rootdir="/usr/local/jail/video" -}jail_video_hostname="video.eastcentral.edu" -}jail_video_ip="192.168.4.80" -}jail_named_exec_start="/bin/sh /etc/rc" -}jail_video_devfs_enable="YES" -} -}# Routed and gateway settings -}static_routes="net1" -}route_net1="-net 192.168.4.80/24 -netmask 255.255.255.0 192.168.4.254" -}-- -} -}Of course there's other things in there like binding various services (inetd, -}syslog, et al) to the internal ip. -} -}On bringing the machine up, I can ping both ips just fine; what I can't do is -}ssh to the dmz address. Yes, sshd is running inside the jail ;). The output -}of tcpdump shows a connect to that ip on bce0, but all responses appear to be -}going out on bce1. Are you remembering to edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config for both the jail and the parent system to listen on the appropriate addresses? The jail's /etc/ssh/sshd_config needs a line that says "ListenAddress 192.168.4.80", the parent's sshd_config needs to say "ListenAddress 10.228.228.228". Also, crank up the debugging for sshd with something like "LogLevel DEBUG3" and watch your log files. -- Randy([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 765.983.1283 <*> Rain puts a hole in stone because of its constancy, not its force. - H. Joseph Gerber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: syslog configuration
On Tue, 29 May 2007, grace ingabire spaketh thusly: -} -}Hello, -} -} -} -}I have installed -}and configured freeBSD 6.1 and have seen the configuration of the syslog in -}/usr/src/libexec/bootpd. -} -}I would like to -}monitor my system using SYSLOG. -} -} -} -}How can I go -}forward? Quite a few things are monitored/logged by default. Check /etc/syslog.conf for which. To tweak, "man syslogd" and "man syslog.conf" will give you many juicy details. -- Randy([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 765.983.1283 <*> Rain puts a hole in stone because of its constancy, not its force. - H. Joseph Gerber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: building packages for dependencies
On Mon, 21 May 2007, Erik Norgaard spaketh thusly: -}Hi: -} -}When I do a -} -}# make install package -} -}I only get a package built for the port in question, not for dependencies. How -}do I make packages of all dependencies too? portupgrade -N package -- Randy([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 765.983.1283 <*> Rain puts a hole in stone because of its constancy, not its force. - H. Joseph Gerber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Anti Spam
On Fri, 20 Apr 2007, Derek Ragona spaketh thusly: -} -}If your volume of mail is >5 per day don't use the baracuda. It won't -}keep up. I think this greatly depends on the model. I've not used the 200 but it certainly is a small box. My experience shows the 600 could easily handle this per hour. I suspect the 400 could handle 50k/day w/o trouble. (and no, I have never worked for Barracuda, nor do I have any stock in them. ;) -- Randy([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 765.983.1283 <*> Rain puts a hole in stone because of its constancy, not its force. - H. Joseph Gerber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Anti Spam
On Fri, 20 Apr 2007, Grant Peel spaketh thusly: -}Hi all, -} -}I am posting this question here because I know there are alot of ISPs using FreeBSD (including me) and am hoping to get feedback, either directly to me or to the list. -} -}We are wrestling (as I am sure many are), with spam. Up until now we have been employing Spamassassin locally and using some 3rd party Anti-Spam servervices that are getting less and less reliable as the weeks go by. -} -}We are considering two hardware solutions, Easyantispam and Barracuda. Barracuda is very expensive, so the most likely candidate is Easyantispam. Does anyone out there have thought on either or both of these? Usability? Reliability? Total Cost of ownership? Integration issues? I have no experience with Easyantispam. At a previous company I implemented a Barracuda solution, 3 - 600's to be exact, after investigating numerous (Postini, Brightmail, Ironport just to name 3). I set them up in geographically dispersed areas, including different timezones, and had them clustered to look from the inside as 1 unit. They took a tremendous beating, frequently >1.5 million hits/day each. Note that a "hit" != an email passing through the box as many of the hits were quickly turned away via RBL's. I pounded on a demo model, again a 600, for 7 days, 2 or 3 of which I over-drove the box(sending it more than it could handle, allowing the extras to build up on the lab's source systems). I had nearly every check enabled, including multiple header and body regex matching, and saw a sustained throughput of IIRC ~56,000/hr, for an average email size of IIRC 5kB. In the 3 years that I was there with the boxen IIRC only 2 had hardware fails, neither of which impacted us due to the clustering(tho' response times for quarantine access increased significantly). I found their tech support to be easy to work with and very professional. If the first-level support didn't know the answer they quickly admitted it and just as quickly called in second-level support. A few times I actually got to their third-level support. ;> In any case, I never sat on hold more than a minute or two. I like their API. It was powerful, having the ability to muck with any system parameter. I preferred the API when dealing with various setting enmasse. I did not like their reporting capabilities. IMHO they had the worst of all we looked at. A fair amount of data was available but nearly all of it required further massaging by us to be useful. All of these thoughts were circa 2003/2004 so FWIW. -- Randy([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 765.983.1283 <*> Rain puts a hole in stone because of its constancy, not its force. - H. Joseph Gerber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: program/binary ip filtering
Hey Bill, Tnx much for the input. I'm the new lead sys admin here. Been away from freebsd for far too long. It's good to be back. ;> On Wed, 18 Apr 2007, Bill Moran spaketh thusly: -} -}that you either need to write stateful rules (so that the initial connection -}creates a state that is then used to allow traffic in both directions) or That's what we currently have set up. -}you need to create two rules -- one to allow traffic out, the other to -}allow traffic in. Stateful filtering is generally considered to be more -}secure, but you then have concerns about properly maintaining state tables, -}which can be a problem on very busy servers. Oh? Why is stateful considered more secure? Anybody have links to good reading on this? I've been through the links in the handbook. Tho' I could have missed something, I didn't see anything on why stateful is more secure than in/out. -- Randy([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 725.983.1283 <*> Rain puts a hole in stone because of its constancy, not its force. - H. Joseph Gerber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: loader.conf != limits?
On Mon, 27 Feb 2006, Dan Nelson spaketh thusly: -}In the last episode (Feb 27), Randy Schultz said: -}> I've been running some code with larger data sets and needed to up -}> some kernerl parameters. I added this to loader.conf: -}>kern.maxdsiz="1073741824" -}>kern.dfldsiz="1073741824" -}>kern.maxssiz="134217728" -}> -}> The odd thing is limits shows: -}> Resource limits (current): -}> cputime infinity secs -}> filesize infinity kB -}> datasize 1048576 kB -}> stacksize 131072 kB -}> -}> Anybody know what's up with this? -} -}Should something be up? 1073741824/1024 is 1048576, which is what the -}limit command shows. The stack size hasn't changed because you didn't -}set kern.dflssiz. You can also set the default sizes in -}/etc/login.conf. Doh! Thinking powers of 10 not 2. Sorry. Didn't know about the login.conf bit tho'. Tnx. -- Randy([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 715-726-2832 email bodhisattva <*> "There is no fire like passion, there is no shark like hatred, there is no snare like folly, there is no torrent like greed." ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
loader.conf != limits?
Hey all, I've been running some code with larger data sets and needed to up some kernerl parameters. I added this to loader.conf: kern.maxdsiz="1073741824" kern.dfldsiz="1073741824" kern.maxssiz="134217728" The odd thing is limits shows: Resource limits (current): cputime infinity secs filesize infinity kB datasize 1048576 kB stacksize 131072 kB coredumpsize infinity kB memoryuseinfinity kB memorylocked infinity kB maxprocesses 5547 openfiles 11095 sbsize infinity bytes vmemoryuse infinity kB Anybody know what's up with this? -- Randy([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 715-726-2832 email bodhisattva <*> "There is no fire like passion, there is no shark like hatred, there is no snare like folly, there is no torrent like greed." ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: did something change in SMP scheduling from 5.4 to 6.0?
Tnx for the response. On Fri, 27 Jan 2006, Lowell Gilbert spaketh thusly: -} -}What was the actual workload at that point? It looks like there's Not much actually. ~.3 or .4. -}only one runnable process, and it's running, so there is no reason to -}care which processor it's on. Yeah that's what I was thinking as well but I have been pushing it a fair bit and still see everything on the first proc. Here is 1 example: last pid: 82302; load averages: 2.20, 0.82, 0.41 up 6+23:37:10 11:24:50 127 processes: 6 running, 121 sleeping CPU states: 16.1% user, 0.0% nice, 2.1% system, 0.0% interrupt, 81.9% idle Mem: 295M Active, 1050M Inact, 294M Wired, 72K Cache, 112M Buf, 364M Free Swap: 4096M Total, 4096M Free PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZERES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 655 schultz 1 760 30024K 29276K RUN0 50:32 2.25% Xorg 82301 root1 1390 10784K 10200K RUN0 0:00 2.25% cc1 12185 schultz 1 760 76532K 75704K select 0 22:37 0.00% opera 14583 schultz 1 760 5512K 4548K select 0 5:49 0.00% xterm-static 3013 schultz 8 200 91760K 77840K kserel 0 4:57 0.00% evolution-2.2 10846 schultz 1 760 5452K 4460K select 0 3:24 0.00% xterm-static 41670 schultz 1 760 10236K 8572K select 0 2:23 0.00% pine 667 schultz 1 760 20844K 10208K select 0 1:20 0.00% xchat Now when running the compile it seemed to make no difference whether or not I was running 1 or 3 compiles, the system still hugged cpu0. I did see occasional hops to the second cpu but they were rare. -} -}I'm not sure there's an issue here. Spreading the work among two Me either but I thought I'ld ask those who know more. -}processors might make slightly better use of cache space, but would -}make power-saving modes less useful. Now if you run two completely -}independent CPU-intensive processes, you'll see both CPUs in use. Well, I have and have seen them running all on cpu0 and have seen some spread out. What I cannot be sure of is when multiple compiles are running on the same cpu what exactly each was doing. For example I've kicked off several portupgrades and they all run mostly on cpu0 however with a portupgrade there is so much more going. If I can get more data I'll post back here. Tnx again for the help. -- Randy([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 715-726-2832 email bodhisattva <*> "There is no fire like passion, there is no shark like hatred, there is no snare like folly, there is no torrent like greed." ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
did something change in SMP scheduling from 5.4 to 6.0?
Hey all, I am curious if something changed in the way extra cpus are utilized in 6.0 vs. 5.4 in a SMP kernel. My system is a dual-proc Xeon box. When I was using 5.4 top would show both procs being used roughly the same, e.g. the "C" column usually had almost as many processes running on the second cpu as on the first. On Jan 23 I did a cvsup and compiled a new 6.0-STABLE SMP kernel. Now watching top I rarely see the second proc being used, even though roundrobin is enabled. FWIW, here's some possibly relevant config bits: Dude ? sysctl -a|egrep smp kern.timecounter.smp_tsc: 0 kern.smp.forward_roundrobin_enabled: 1 kern.smp.forward_signal_enabled: 1 kern.smp.cpus: 4 kern.smp.disabled: 0 kern.smp.active: 1 kern.smp.maxcpus: 16 Dude ? Dude ? sysctl -a|egrep hyperth machdep.hyperthreading_allowed: 0 I've attached the output of a typical top with some builds running. Unfortunately I don't have any saved data from 5.4. I do see the second processor being used but those times are rare. When it does happen it seems almost exclusively when I'm seriously hammering the system. This makes me think something has changed with 6.0 behind-the-scenes such that if the system doesn't need the extra power then it sticks to cpu 0. I poked around the release notes and handbook but failed to find anything on this topic. Am I all wet and simply have something misconfigured or indeed all is well with 6.x doing it's thing hugging cpu 0? -- Randy([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 715-726-2832 email bodhisattva <*> "There is no fire like passion, there is no shark like hatred, there is no snare like folly, there is no torrent like greed." last pid: 86336; load averages: 0.37, 0.31, 0.22 up 2+22:34:02 10:21:42 148 processes: 2 running, 146 sleeping CPU states: 14.9% user, 0.0% nice, 10.2% system, 0.0% interrupt, 74.8% idle Mem: 312M Active, 963M Inact, 187M Wired, 11M Cache, 112M Buf, 529M Free Swap: 4096M Total, 4096M Free PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZERES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 86122 root1 80 1612K 1500K wait 0 0:00 16.50% make 86335 root1 1390 584K 476K RUN0 0:00 16.50% make 86288 root1 -80 1648K 1184K piperd 0 0:00 16.50% sh 85738 root1 -80 21276K 20924K piperd 0 0:02 14.99% ruby18 86121 root1 80 1636K 1172K wait 0 0:00 14.99% sh 655 schultz 1 760 30148K 29220K select 0 15:43 0.00% Xorg 11160 schultz 1 760 2644K 1924K select 0 2:20 0.00% top 80862 schultz 7 200 203M 190M kserel 0 2:06 0.00% firefox-bin 667 schultz 1 760 14136K 10276K select 0 0:32 0.00% xchat 4023 schultz 1 760 6924K 5948K select 0 0:31 0.00% xterm-static 3013 schultz 8 200 55640K 41624K kserel 0 0:29 0.00% evolution-2.2 4006 schultz 1 760 5468K 4492K select 0 0:25 0.00% xterm-static 801 schultz 1 760 5472K 4496K select 0 0:20 0.00% xterm-static 592 root1 760 1216K 676K select 0 0:19 0.00% moused 41670 schultz 1 760 8672K 6968K select 0 0:15 0.00% pine 692 schultz 1 760 5484K 4424K select 0 0:11 0.00% xterm-static 10846 schultz 1 760 5452K 4460K select 0 0:10 0.00% xterm-static 708 schultz 1 760 5500K 4524K select 0 0:09 0.00% xterm-static 1172 schultz 1 760 5452K 4476K select 0 0:09 0.00% xterm-static 80886 schultz 1 760 2632K 1912K CPU0 0 0:08 0.00% top 494 root1 760 2924K 1760K select 0 0:08 0.00% ntpd 888 schultz 1 760 5452K 4448K select 0 0:07 0.00% xterm-static 660 schultz 1 760 5400K 3548K select 0 0:06 0.00% fvwm 12259 schultz 1 760 5472K 4496K select 0 0:05 0.00% xterm-static 81573 schultz 1 760 5468K 4492K select 0 0:05 0.00% xterm-static 20918 schultz 1 760 5500K 4524K select 0 0:05 0.00% xterm-static 32772 schultz 1 760 5452K 4448K select 0 0:05 0.00% xterm-static 385 root1 760 1300K 828K select 0 0:04 0.00% syslogd 9622 schultz 1 760 5468K 4504K select 0 0:03 0.00% xterm-static 9287 schultz 1 760 5468K 4504K select 0 0:03 0.00% xterm-static 14583 schultz 1 760 5500K 4536K select 0 0:02 0.00% xterm-static 20866 schultz 1 760 5480K 4512K select 0 0:02 0.00% xterm-static 20907 schultz 1 760 5468K 4504K select 0 0:02 0.00% xterm-static 688 schultz 1 760 4888K 3680K select 0 0:02 0.00% gconfd-2 664 schultz 1 760 4664K 3040K select 0 0:02 0.00% FvwmPager 3018 schultz 7 200 32768K 18764K kserel 0 0:02 0.00% evolution-alar 45374 schultz 1 1390 3336K 2780K select 0 0:01 0.00% ssh 662 schultz 1 760 4844K 3992K select 0 0:01 0.00% xclock 3015 schultz 8 200 19500K 13188K kserel 0 0:01 0.00% evolution-data 533
Re: openldap23 sasl server
On Fri, 6 Jan 2006, Denis Lemire spaketh thusly: -}The port you are looking for is net/openldap23-server. -} -}If you do a make config on this port and enable SASL support the -}resulting package will be openldap23-sasl-server. Ah, there it is. Tnx. -- Randy([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 715-726-2832 email bodhisattva <*> "There is no fire like passion, there is no shark like hatred, there is no snare like folly, there is no torrent like greed." ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
openldap23 sasl server
Hi there, I had a 5.4 system running the openldap23 sasl server that I did a bin upgrade to 6.0-stable. Once that was done I cvsup'd everything to bring it up to date. When I did a portupgrade -a I noticed, due to portupgrade dying, that openldap23-sasl-server does not exist in the ports tree. Yet using sysinstall, which is what I did initially to install, it's there for installing. Can somebody point me to the answer as to why it's available using sysinstall but not when using the ports tree? The 2.3 sasl client is there but not the 2.3 sasl server. -- Randy([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 715-726-2832 email bodhisattva <*> "There is no fire like passion, there is no shark like hatred, there is no snare like folly, there is no torrent like greed." ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: wazzup with this java build warning?
On Thu, 6 Oct 2005, Kris Kennaway spaketh thusly: -}> -}> Tnx Ken. -} -}Who's Ken? ;P Blech. Sorry about that Kris. The Sam Smith Taddy Porter musta snuck up on me when I wasn't looking. ;> -} -}> So it's ok and the end result will be the native jdk? -} -}Yes. Sweetness. Tnx again. -- Randy([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 715-726-2832 email bodhisattva <*> "There is no fire like passion, there is no shark like hatred, there is no snare like folly, there is no torrent like greed." ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: wazzup with this java build warning?
On Thu, 6 Oct 2005, Kris Kennaway spaketh thusly: -}On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 07:32:41PM -0500, Randy Schultz wrote: -}> Doing a make in ports/java/jdk14. Have in ports/distfiles the files the -}> make asks for. When the make continues it warns with: -}> -}> ===>Verifying install for /usr/local/linux-sun-jdk1.4.2/bin/javac in /usr/ports/java/linux-sun-jdk14 -}> == -}> Warning: This JDK may be unstable. You are advised to use the native -}> FreeBSD JDK, in ports/java/jdk14. -}> -}> -}> I don't get this. I am using ports/java/jdk14, performing the make there, -}> yet it barks with this. Is this some debris from a bygone check or did I -}> miss a step? -} -}No, read what it says..it's installing the linux-sun-jdk14 port as -}part of the build of jdk14. Why? Because you need a java compiler to -}bootstrap the java compiler. Tnx Ken. So it's ok and the end result will be the native jdk? -- Randy([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 715-726-2832 email bodhisattva <*> "There is no fire like passion, there is no shark like hatred, there is no snare like folly, there is no torrent like greed." ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
wazzup with this java build warning?
Doing a make in ports/java/jdk14. Have in ports/distfiles the files the make asks for. When the make continues it warns with: ===>Verifying install for /usr/local/linux-sun-jdk1.4.2/bin/javac in /usr/ports/java/linux-sun-jdk14 == Warning: This JDK may be unstable. You are advised to use the native FreeBSD JDK, in ports/java/jdk14. I don't get this. I am using ports/java/jdk14, performing the make there, yet it barks with this. Is this some debris from a bygone check or did I miss a step? -- Randy([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 715-726-2832 email bodhisattva <*> "There is no fire like passion, there is no shark like hatred, there is no snare like folly, there is no torrent like greed." ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: sendmail or another mail server?
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Efren Bravo spaketh thusly: -}Hi, -} -}I've installed a fBSD and now I'm tuning it 'cause I need to put it to -}serve as mail server. -} -}My questions is if sendmail is able to serve as a serious mail server or I -}should try with another software for this job. -} -}In case I choose sendmail or another mail server software, exists an web -}interface for them? In-house volume testing I've done for with fbsd 5.4 has postfix smokin' sendmail with at least a 260% increase. With softupdates enabled and a few other simple things pfix on fbsd rocks. FWIW. -- Randy([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 715-726-2832 email bodhisattva <*> "There is no fire like passion, there is no shark like hatred, there is no snare like folly, there is no torrent like greed." ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Performance of mailserevr in FreeBSD 5.4
On Tue, 20 Sep 2005, Deepak Naidu spaketh thusly: -}Thanx Randy, -} -} It would be good, if I have some data of posted doc regarding this... or of -}your own experience. Thanx for your advise Ok. I'm posting this to advocacy as well in case any find it useful or at least interesting. Here's a summation of the testing I did and the results of those tests. As we were only looking for a few things this is far from a scientific analysis so FWIW. Test background/setup: I wanted to test various configs to see what gave the best throughput in a relay configuration for our real-time requirements, i.e. ave # of recipients, ave size of each email, etc. - OS's: FreeBSD 5.4 with and w/o softupdates, Fedora Core 3, Fedora Core 4. The FC installations used ext3 for the filesystems. I wanted to try with Reiser but ran out of time. - Sink systems simply threw everything to /dev/null. We had multiple sink systems to ensure they were never a chokepoint. - Source systems used fbsd's postal package as: postal -m 11 -p 4 -c 2 d3 usernames - where usernames contained 2 and 3 usernames. No significant difference was found using 2 or 3 usernames. - Test relay was a dual-proc 800 MHz system PC with 1 GB RAM and the entire system on 1 5400 RPM drive. (I know - nobody would ever run a mail server with /var/spool on the root drive but we were really just looking for difference percentages, not max throughput and had some old systems lying around... ;) - All installs were default installs. I thought about tweaking this or that, e.g. postfix has some notes on things to do for high-volume installations that we didn't do. I wanted out-of-the-box as much as possible. Tweaking can quickly turn into a slippery slope of just 1 more here and 1 more there. I figured we can tweak all we want for more specific needs as they arise. - The versions of sendmail and postfix were whatever was current stable in June, compiled locally with default build instructions. So, given all that, here's the #'s I came up with. Sendmail Linux:47,000 emails/hr FreeBSD: 66,000 emails/hr this is about a 40% increase in throughput. Postfix Linux: 86,000 emails/hr FreeBSD: 223,000 emails/hr this is about a 260% increase in throughput. The above data is for FC4 and FBSD 5.4 with softupdates enabled. My apologies but I can't find the notes for FC3 and FBSD w/o softupdates. FC4 was faster but not by much, and by about the same % for sendmail and postfix. Softupdates showed a similar pattern(as expected) - not as fast as with softupdates. IIRC the data for postfix/fbsd w/o softupdates was still around 190k emails/hr(this is from memory so take it with a grain of salt). I was amazed at the difference with postfix. Whatever Mr. Venema did inside postfix really works well on fbsd. Even though I can't find the #'s I remember my amazement that fbsd w/o softupdates still smoked FC4 when using postfix. Pls remember this is far from a scientific analysis. Your mileage will vary in many ways. I would recommend doing your own tests with your own criteria. -- Randy([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 715-726-2832 email bodhisattva <*> "There is no fire like passion, there is no shark like hatred, there is no snare like folly, there is no torrent like greed." ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Performance of mailserevr in FreeBSD 5.4
On Tue, 19 Sep 2005, Chuck Swiger spaketh thusly: -}Deepak Naidu wrote: -}>I wanted to know whether FreeBSD can make a perfect -}> mailserver compared to mailservers on linux. I am in -}> process of porting them, but needed some statistical -}> info regarding its performance compared with other os. -} -}FreeBSD makes a fine mailserver. It certainly does. A few months ago I did some testing and found that freebsd 5.4 with softupdates enabled was able to process IIRC ~300% more email than fedora core 4. In fact sendmail on fbsd 5.4 handled nearly as much email as postfix on fc4 while postfix on fbsd 5.4 was smokin' the wire. I still have the hard data around somewhere if you think it'll be useful to you. -- Randy([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 715-726-2832 email bodhisattva <*> "There is no fire like passion, there is no shark like hatred, there is no snare like folly, there is no torrent like greed." ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: wizard mode docs
On Fri, 12 Aug 2005, Giorgos Keramidas spaketh thusly: -}On 2005-08-11 16:09, Randy Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -}> Hey all, -}> Is there any documentation on wizard mode? I'm just wondering what -}> the scan function does. -} -}What is "wizard mode" supposed to be? Arg. Forgot about other wizard modes like ye olde sendmail wizard mode. My apologies all... This is during the install process when deciding what partitions to put on the drives. In that screen there is a wizard mode. -- Randy([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 715-726-2832 email bodhisattva <*> "There is no fire like passion, there is no shark like hatred, there is no snare like folly, there is no torrent like greed." ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
wizard mode docs
Hey all, Is there any documentation on wizard mode? I'm just wondering what the scan function does. -- Randy([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 715-726-2832 email bodhisattva <*> "There is no fire like passion, there is no shark like hatred, there is no snare like folly, there is no torrent like greed." ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: expat portupgrade dies
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, Michael C. Shultz wrote: -}On Thursday 03 March 2005 01:59 pm, Randy Schultz wrote: -}> On a 5.3 system when I try to portupgrade some ports the portupgrade -}> dies on expat: -}> ---> Upgrading 'expat-1.95.6_1' to 'expat-1.95.8' -}> (textproc/expat2) ---> Building '/usr/ports/textproc/expat2' -}> ===> Cleaning for libtool-1.3.5_2 -}> ===> Cleaning for expat-1.95.8 -}> ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found -}> ===> Extracting for expat-1.95.8 -}> -}> >> Checksum OK for expat-1.95.8.tar.gz. -}> -}> ===> Patching for expat-1.95.8 -}> ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for expat-1.95.8 -}> 1 out of 2 hunks failed--saving rejects to lib/expat.h.rej -}> -}> >> Patch patch-expat.h failed to apply cleanly. -}> >> Patch(es) patch-configure applied cleanly. -}> -}> *** Error code 1 -}> -}> Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/expat2. -}> -}> -}> I've tried doing a pkg_delete on the old expat, same effect. Is -}> there a standard way to continue from this fail other than patching -}> by hand? -} -}Make sure you first run "make clean" to get rid of old patched files, -}then run "make patch". If the patches still fail to apply then notify -}the portmaintainer, if the patches apply then just continue with a -}normal "make install clean". Hmm. I did try to run the patch command by hand. Hadn't tried the make patch. (stepping into a nearby phone booth...) Ok. Same issues. I'll contact the port maintainer. Tnx all for the pointers. -- Randy([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 715-726-2832 <*> The Penguin Cometh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: expat portupgrade dies
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, Paul Schmehl wrote: -}--On Thursday, March 03, 2005 03:59:00 PM -0600 Randy Schultz -}<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -} -}> On a 5.3 system when I try to portupgrade some ports the portupgrade -}> dies on expat: -}> -}> I've tried doing a pkg_delete on the old expat, same effect. Is there -}> a standard way to continue from this fail other than patching by hand? -}> -}Try running make distclean in the expat2 ports directory. Then run make -}install and see if it installs independently of portupgrade. Ah, forgot to mention I had tried this with the same effect. -- Randy([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 715-726-2832 <*> The Penguin Cometh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
expat portupgrade dies
On a 5.3 system when I try to portupgrade some ports the portupgrade dies on expat: ---> Upgrading 'expat-1.95.6_1' to 'expat-1.95.8' (textproc/expat2) ---> Building '/usr/ports/textproc/expat2' ===> Cleaning for libtool-1.3.5_2 ===> Cleaning for expat-1.95.8 ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found ===> Extracting for expat-1.95.8 >> Checksum OK for expat-1.95.8.tar.gz. ===> Patching for expat-1.95.8 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for expat-1.95.8 1 out of 2 hunks failed--saving rejects to lib/expat.h.rej >> Patch patch-expat.h failed to apply cleanly. >> Patch(es) patch-configure applied cleanly. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/expat2. I've tried doing a pkg_delete on the old expat, same effect. Is there a standard way to continue from this fail other than patching by hand? -- Randy([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 715-726-2832 <*> The Penguin Cometh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
sysinstall suddenly quitting
Hey all, I've got a 4.6 system that I'm trying to get to 4.7. I've dropped on the sysinstall from 4.7(per the docs). I run it as "/stand/sysinstall installUpgrade". When I get to the "Choose Installation Media" screen I go into Options to change the Release Name. Regardless of what I do on this screen, in fact even if I do nothing at all, when I press 'Q' to quit sysinstall exits, dropping right to the commandline. On the screen it says "chflags'ing old binaries - please wait". There doesn't seem to be anything about this in docs or list/newsgroup archives and I've tried a number of different things - making sure I'm root, perms on chflags, getting chflags from the 4.7 dist, even different term types and keyboards (hey - maybe there was some weird key bounce going on ;). I'm guessing PEBCAK but am not sure where to look. -- Randy([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 715-726-2832 <*> The BeaSD Cometh To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
