FreeBSD 6.2 + Subversion - cannot connect...

2007-03-19 Thread Paul van den Bergen

Hi All,

I'm trying to set up a subversion server on a miniITX box running a
freebsd server (no X) and vanilla subversion - no appache, either
straight svn or svn+ssh.

followed the basics from 2 howtos on the net - OnLamp and another (I
can't recall off the top of my head)

I can svn import, svn commit and svn checkout using the file method
from either the svn user or other users using the file:/// method.

I cannot svn to the repository using tortoise SVN from the windows XP
box on the same network.

any suggestions welcome for where to start looking - I'm all out.

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Re: difficulty installing 5.3-R i386 - how to check RAM

2005-04-08 Thread Gabrielle Harrison Paul van den Bergen
On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 21:02:27 -0500, Kevin Kinsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gabrielle Harrison  Paul van den Bergen wrote:
OK, thanks for the info... now for the solution...
I have more than 16 MB of ram available but it does nto seem to
play well  together or there is a problem with some of the chips.
How do I trouble shoot my RAM chips?  for instance, if I swap the
2 SIMMs  I have in there atm it does not want to do the POST.  is
POST success  sufficient to conclude that the chips are OK? is there a  
BSD utility to  check or diagnose RAM condition or errors?

(ahhh the joys of old hardware...)
*g*, Yeah.  I've got piles of it.  Some of them are
my primary DNS/web machines, :-p
As to the question -- Hmm, what should I say?
yeah... which turned out to be my saviour... I dug out an old pile of  
MBs... which still had there mem chips intact, now have 98 MB in the  
machine, loading happily as I typo...


(1st, a parenthetical observation --- the FBSD list doesn't like
top posting much, and you forgot to cc: the list: many people
request that you keep all this discussion _on_ the list for a couple
of reasons.  However, you're probably new to all this; consider
forgiveness extended, but try to play nicer next time? Nothing
personal, you understand ... just a heads up for the future)
No problems, thanks for the headsup... Not intentional, just used to lists  
that do auto-reply-to as default... :-) but I guess this is flame war  
material here...  personally I have found top posting more useable as I  
tend to scan the email top first to see if I want to read... I can see the  
point though, in-line or bottom post presumably being prefered for some  
reason ;-) guess it's a style thing, one that I'm not fussed by, so I'll  
tow the line...


The standard answer for RAM issues is to download the
program memtest86, which is available for most any
computing platform.  (e.g., it's OS independent once
you create the floppy disk).  Running this program will create
a bootable floppy disk that you stick in the box, boot
into, and it runs tests all day long until you shut it down.
I believe you want http://www.memtest.org
IIRC, you may be able to get a log/report from it, so
you don't have to sit there through $n iterations of
the test and watch the screen for errors, but YMMV.
As for mixing chips, it's been a long, long time, and I
was more like a hobbyist then (maybe still am), but
I do seem to remember it was a no no to mix EDO
and FP chips, or some such, blah blah
HTH,
Kevin Kinsey
ta!  that looks just what I want...  Knowing the hardware is fine goes a  
long way to solving bugs ;-)

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difficulty installing 5.3-R i386

2005-04-06 Thread Gabrielle Harrison Paul van den Bergen
Hi all,
I have an old old pentium, scsi HDD + floppy + CDROM, 16 MB of somewhat  
dubious ram...

I have 5.3R CDs 1 and 2
I have 3 seemingly working floppies (after writing to 6 disks... ofcourse!)
boot goes like this...
boot disk.
kern1
kern2
boot
boot screen with about 8 options, none of which seem to be the  
installation option... then reboots back to floppy...

I do not seem to have a way of getting to sysinstall!!!

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hardware testing - e.g. memory - on old hardware

2003-12-16 Thread paul van den bergen
Like most geeks[1] I have a pile of roting hardware at home...  Someone 
yesterday mentioned (vaguely) about utilities for testing hardware - 
especially RAM - but presumably this could be extended to other hardware - 
that would 
1) tell you if it is OK.
2) isolate and by some mechanism make unusable sections of memory perminantly 
damaged.

I figured this would be quite usefull for redundant hardware (where age and 
lack of replacement parts might tempt one to hold onto hardware as long as 
possible)

anyone have any idea if there is such a beasty?




[1] I have a theory about geeks there are geek-wannabes, geeks, ubergeeks 
and Gnurus... and the process is progressive and non-linear

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Re: howto upgrade 4.8 to 4.9 without cdrom or floppy? ERROR

2003-12-15 Thread paul van den bergen
After all that angst, I couldn't get it to work anyway - on reboot the system 
reverted to a 4.8 kernel...  Not sure why, but gave up at this point...

On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 05:25 pm, paul van den bergen wrote:
 On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 05:17 pm, paul van den bergen wrote:
  Hi...

 snip...

 I stuffed up...

  # vnconfig vn1 /path/to/freebsd4.9/floppies/boot.flp
  # mkdir /bootfloppy
  # mount_mfs /dev/vn1c /bootfloppy/

 ^
 does not work...
 try simply

 # mount /dev/vn1c /bootfloppy/

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Re: howto upgrade 4.8 to 4.9 without cdrom or floppy? ERROR

2003-12-15 Thread paul van den bergen
Yes, I am familiar with that upgrade path...  Part of my motivation was ... 
well, lazyness :-) using someone elses worked out example, part a desire to 
blow away a rather mixed and heavily tweeked system (read I've been 
experimenting on it for so long I'm not sure what I've done anymore)...  and 
a small part the thrill of tackling an interesting problem... (mode = evil 
willow Bored Now! /mode)

In particular I wanted to completely remove a whole bunch of pkg_adds I'd done 
manually without doing pkg_delete or whatever...  given there was nothing I 
needed to keep, I figured it was easier to reinstall from scratch 
(4.9-RELEASE), with or without cvsup'ing to 4.9 stable.

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:56 am, Minnesota Slinky wrote:
 There's actually a very simple process to use to upgrade, providing you
 have a broadband connection:

 1) cvsup your sources to the newer sources.  For more information read
 about cvsup or checkout the handbook!
 2) once you have new sources, cd to /usr/src and type make world; this
 could take an hour or more
 3) if this completes OK, cd to /usr/src/sys/i386/conf (on 386-based
 processor systems) and type:
   # config GENERIC (or whatever your kernel config file is)
 4) type:
   # cd ../../compile/GENERIC (or name of kernel config file)
   # make; make depend; make install
 5) if this completes OK, type:
   # shutdown -r now
 6) once rebooted, login, and check uname -a.  You will see stats for a
 4.9-x kernel!

 HTH

 Eric F Crist
 President
 AdTech Integrated Systems, Inc
 (612) 998-3588



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 After all that angst, I couldn't get it to work anyway - on reboot the
 system
 reverted to a 4.8 kernel...  Not sure why, but gave up at this point...

 On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 05:25 pm, paul van den bergen wrote:
  On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 05:17 pm, paul van den bergen wrote:
   Hi...
 
  snip...
 
  I stuffed up...
 
   # vnconfig vn1 /path/to/freebsd4.9/floppies/boot.flp
   # mkdir /bootfloppy
   # mount_mfs /dev/vn1c /bootfloppy/
 
  ^
  does not work...
  try simply
 
  # mount /dev/vn1c /bootfloppy/

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howto upgrade 4.8 to 4.9 without cdrom or floppy?

2003-12-11 Thread paul van den bergen
Hi...

on freebsd-hackers, Alfred Perlstein posted a method that allows 
boot-disk-less installation... but it requires mdconfig, a 5.1 utility...

is there a method to do this under 4.8?

it seems to me that the job performed by md0 could be done with vn0
e.g.

do 
# ls /dev/vn*
if empty do
# cd /dev
# ./MAKEDEV vn0
# ./MAKEDEV vn1
# vnconfig vn0 /path/to/freebsd/4.9.iso
# mount_cd9660 /dev/vn0c /path/to/freebsd4.9

or however you access the freebsd install iso disk
the point being to get access to the /floppies/boot.flp image on the cdrom

# vnconfig vn1 /path/to/freebsd4.9/floppies/boot.flp
# mkdir /bootfloppy
# mount_mfs /dev/vn1c /bootfloppy/
# cp /bootfloppy/kernel.gz /ikernel.gz
# cp /bootfloppy/mfsroot.gz /mfsroot.gz

then reboot as described...

I am about to try this out... wish me luck!


On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:18 pm, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
 I have a mini-HOWTO here that possibly be automated.

 Basically we're going to install FreeBSD over FreeBSD without
 a floppy, cdrom or pxe.

 This depends on a loader that's compatible with your kernel
 so if really weird lockups happen, you might not be compatible.


 Anyhow, here we go:


 Download the boot.flp from the release you want to install.

 Mount it like so:
 mdconfig -a -t vnode -f boot.flp
 # should output something like 'md0'
 mkdir -p /mnt
 mount /dev/md0 /mnt

 Copy the yummy bits from the install image to your root:
 cp /mnt/kernel.gz /ikernel.gz
 cp /mnt/mfsroot.gz /mfsroot.gz

 Now reboot and interrupt the loader when it counts down the boot.

 Then type these commands into the loader:
 unload kernel
 load /ikernel
 load -t mfs_root /mfsroot
 set vfs.root.mountfrom
 boot

 Now cross your fingers once you wipe the partitions out to reinstall...


 It would be cool if this could be automated[1], perhaps by setting
 the boot partition to the swap partition and setting it up temporarily
 as a ufs filesystem and then... oh... well...

 [1] http://www.jerkcity.com/jerkcity1426.html



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Re: howto upgrade 4.8 to 4.9 without cdrom or floppy? ERROR

2003-12-11 Thread paul van den bergen
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 05:17 pm, paul van den bergen wrote:
 Hi...

snip...

I stuffed up...

 # vnconfig vn1 /path/to/freebsd4.9/floppies/boot.flp
 # mkdir /bootfloppy
 # mount_mfs /dev/vn1c /bootfloppy/
^
does not work...
try simply

# mount /dev/vn1c /bootfloppy/





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Re: SLIP connection to Cisco CONSOLE...

2003-12-04 Thread paul van den bergen
On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:33 pm, Olaf Hoyer wrote:
 Then use a standard terminal program like cu, tip, minicom or kermit to
 connect at 9600 8N1 to the cisco.

we find we need to turn flow control to none also... *shrug*


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general updating and staying current questions...

2003-11-30 Thread paul van den bergen
This is likely alredy answered elsewhere... but...

what methods are there for keeping up to date with BSD-STABLE?

OK, I get using cvsup for ports, how about for the source tree? same deal?

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Re: Linksys WPC11 ver4 troubles

2003-11-24 Thread paul van den bergen

try changing the pccard memmory block.

for more info see man pccardc

e.g.

pccardc pccardmem 0xd4000

default = 0xd
choices are 0xd4000, 0xd8000, 0xdc000

don't ask me why...

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:07 am, Eric F Crist wrote:
 pccard: card inserted, slot 0
 Nov 17 18:06:30 nomad pccardd[51]: No card in database for
 (null)((null))

 Now, after reading the howto for this network card at
 http://lists.bawug.org/pipermail/wireless/2001-May/001083.html,

 I have to enter the (null)((null)) in the /etc/pccard.conf file with
 the appropriate settings.  Tried this, it doesn't work.

 Someone please help me!  Getting this to show up in my ifconfig would
 really make my day.

 Thanks,

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while I have your attention... Names, copyright and IPv6

2003-11-23 Thread paul van den bergen
Hi all,

given how clearly you-all answered my query about 'hostname' (thanks folks) I 
thought I'd chance my luck.

so, let me get this straight...

in the IPv4 world there is this thing called DNS and domain names... I can buy 
my self a name off a name vendor - eg. bergen.org... I then get to own that 
name...  so, 
Question 1) where does the DNS record for that name reside? with my ISP? with 
the name vendor?

lets say I have a network and wish to name the boxen depending on the OS 
running on them thus...
microsoft.bergen.org
SCO.bergen.org
Sun.bergen.org

Question 2)
where do those DNSrecord reside?

Question3)
surely I'm breaking copyright or trademark laws here? whats to stop me being 
sued? for that matter, whats to stop vexatious litigation? and what about the 
name brokers? do they have legal responsibilities? and if I run DNS server on 
my network am I then a name provider for myself and have to worry about 
litigation?

Question4)
or to put it another way, what is the relationship between trademark control 
institutions and name brokers?


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mounting windows FS questions

2003-11-23 Thread paul van den bergen
Hi all,

I have a dual boot machine Win2k + BSD...

obviously I can mount the windows partition under BSD.
can I mount the BSD partition(s) under windows?

I have been told that writing to the windows partition from BSD is kinda 
dubious. why is this? is it possible to work around this?



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Ooops - Re: while I have your attention... Names, copyright and IPv6

2003-11-23 Thread paul van den bergen
Ooops...

I forgot the most important part of my question... IPv6

how does this all work under IPv6?  is the IPv6 domain name allocation as 
fully fledged as teh IPv4 services? I.e. are there and what are the 
restrictions on who can set up a name broker service for IPv6?  what are the 
likely gottchas?





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Re: Ooops - Re: while I have your attention... Names, copyright and IPv6

2003-11-23 Thread paul van den bergen
as usual, there has been a bit of a misunderstanding... being a loosely typed 
language, Engliosh is difficult to communicate in :-0

Names, addresses and DNS are obviously different things.

I understand where IPv6 addresses come from (sort of). 
I understand (sort of) how IPv6 works for DNS records relating names to IPv6 
addresses

what I was really asking is: in the IPv4 world, name brokers sell names that 
are then related to IPv4 addresses. Legality of the name choice etc. is 
generally owner onus... Is there a similar sort of (or coincident) naming 
authority for IPv6 based names?

example.

if I operate a network, boxen1.example.org, boxen2.example.org, etc., as an 
IPv4 address space and a second coincident network, boxen1.example6.org, 
boxen2.example6.org, etc., as an IPv6 based address space, where does the 
authority to allocate the IPv6-network based names reside? 

the technical side of it is clear... someone somewhere needs to keep a track 
of the names...

anyway, this is straying somewhat from the core subject matter of this list...


On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:30 am, Cordula's Web wrote:
  how does this all work under IPv6?  is the IPv6 domain name allocation as
  fully fledged as teh IPv4 services? I.e. are there and what are the
  restrictions on who can set up a name broker service for IPv6?  what are
  the likely gottchas?

 I don't know for sure here, so please take this with a grain of salt:

 IPv6 addresses are represented by  instead of A records in
 DNS nameservers. Right now, I think that you can only point
 .org (and other [cc]TLD) nameservers to nameservers residing
 on an IPv4 address [anyone correct me if I'm wrong here].
 But you could always configure your nameservers (let's say
 ns1.bergen.org, ns2.bergen.org) to return IPv6 addresses
 to some names, by adding  records to them.

 But since IPv6 names are not (yet) globally routed on the Internet,
 this will have local meaning only (e.g. on an intranet).

 Generally speaking: IPv4 and IPv6 addresses are _never_
 allocated by name brokers or DNS systems. They reside at
 a much lower level, which has nothing to do with _names_.
 If you connect to the Internet, your upstream provider(s)
 will assign to you IPv4 address blocks automatically.
 You would normally not be able to influence this, because
 it is deeply intertwined with the routing protocols that
 all network operators use to transmit data on the Internet.

 You may ask how network operators get their IP address
 blocks. Check out IANA: http://www.iana.org/  especially:
 http://www.iana.org/ipaddress/ip-addresses.htm

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hardware ITX for firewalls etc.

2003-11-20 Thread paul van den bergen
email 1
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:22 am, Francisco Reyes wrote:
 On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, paul van den bergen wrote:
  You can also get CF and similar solid stat memory chips to IDE connection
  adaptors for around AU$30...

 URL?
 Sounds like an interesting option for a Firewall I need to do myself very
 soon.
and
email 2
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:30 am, Francisco Reyes wrote:
 On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, paul van den bergen wrote:
  I have a bunch of these (8000s actually) for a testbed network.  work
  like a treat... go fanless if you can...

 Where did you get them from?
 How much?

  I did have some hassles with the onboard via network connection not
  coping with long vlan tagged packets.

 It seems most of these mini ITX network cards have issues with FreeBSD. As
 long as I can get two PCI slots I should be fine.

reply to email 1:
I'll have to dig up the specs from a friend... but it's probably cheaper to do 
the google thing... or one of the ITX mini board sites... miniitx.com???  
there are some awesome casemods out there...  we want to get some Commador 
64s for our desktop machines... :-)

reply to email 2:
we got VIA EPIA mini ITX boards of a local supplier... (Melbourne Australia) I 
can give the details if helpful (i.e. of list and if you are local) but since 
we are a University, it is likely you will not get the same price we did :-(  
on the other hand, check out the swapmeets (see green guide or 
computertrader.com.au (URLspelling?) for details) 

they were around AU$220 each... the fanless is (was - this is 6 months ago or 
more) 600 MHz and the fan'd ones are 850 MHz or so...  I  expect they would 
be similar price for faster now... with more options...  people on 
melbourne.wireless.org have been talking about the impending release of a 
board with on-board PCMCIA and etc... but not sure of the SotA...

the vlan tag thing and some other bugs with the vr0 supported hardware have 
been around for a while... I suspect mostly they are fixed or well known for 
FreeBSD nowadays... the vlantag thing is a buffer size or otherwise a 
hardware support issue (i.e. not driver - as the man pages states, the vlan 
stuff can be done in software, but I have absolutely no idea what this 
involves anyone want to enlighten us?

ditto the dual PCI splitter - no idea where to get it just know it exists... 
also rumour (one mention of suspicion... that counts as a rumour, right?) 
that there are issues with the dual pci thing... not sure what though... 
still, they're cheap... sub au$50?? maybe?

I imagine a quick check of some of the mod-sites will show some interesting 
board configs...  I suspect you can get dual PCI slot versions too.

OK, here is my bookmark collection on hardware mods etc...
pc104, review sites and itx sites...

http://www.tri-m.com/
http://accpc.com/submicropc.htm
http://www.littlepc.com/
http://www.viavpsd.com/product/index.jsp
http://www.mini-itx.com/
http://www.tomshardware.com
http://www.dansdata.com/
http://www.motherboards.org/
http://www.routerboard.com/
http://www.kontron.com/products/pdproductdetail.cfm?keyProduct=32980
http://www.frozencpu.com/cgi-bin/frozencpu/index.html
http://www.freeswan.org/
http://leaf.sourceforge.net/

there are likely others, but that's what I have atm... :-)

the last few are Open Source router/AP/firewall thingies... there are also 
sites around with FreeBSD (well, BSD) based implementations that are 
similarly compact cheap and reliable :-)  good luck... and remember google is 
your friend...

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hostnames and interfaces

2003-11-20 Thread paul van den bergen
hey all,
I first encountered networking in CISCO land... where IP addresses and host 
names seem to be associated...

what is the freeBSD way?  AFAICS, a machine has a defined name regardless of 
howmany interfaces it has.  if one splits the world up into hosts (one 
interface) and routers (multiple interfaces) can one define multiple 
hostnames?

to expand on this, there is a potential many to many relationship here between 
host names and IP addresses (strickly speaking that is what dns etc sees?)

how dose BSD define this? how does one define this using BSD?


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upgrading 4.8 to 4.9 question....

2003-11-19 Thread paul van den bergen
Hi All,

I'm tempted to upgrade some machines in my test network to 4.9 from 4.8 (since 
the new KAME snap kits are configured to 4.9 over 4.8 now and if I want to be 
fashionable and bleedy, I'd better keep updated) and so I am wondering what 
the best way to do this is and anypitfalls...

OK, here is what I think I should do...

cvsup the source tree to 4.9
make world

cvsup the ports tree


um... and that's where I come unstuck...

is there a method (other than de-installing all pkgs and reisntalling) to 
upgrade the ports or packages appropriately from 4.8 to 4.9?


I guess there is a gap in my knowledge here about how the freebsd software 
state changes...  e.g. how does one avoid clashes and incompatabilities in 
a large complex collection of software that is continually changing?



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Re: Mini atx for firewall

2003-11-19 Thread paul van den bergen
I have a bunch of these (8000s actually) for a testbed network.  work like a 
treat... go fanless if you can...

I did have some hassles with the onboard via network connection not coping 
with long vlan tagged packets... Not sure if this is still an issue, but the 
vlan man page lists compatible devices if this is an issue for you.

also you can get PCI doublers... no idea how well they work, but!  anyone had 
experience of them?


On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 01:24 am, Francisco Reyes wrote:
 Anyone used a mini ATX machine with FreeBSD?
 Have a client that has a space limitation and a mini atx machine like

 http://shentech.com/shutspacskvi.html

 Would be perfect for him.
 My primary concern is the network card. Since these small machines only
 have one PCI slot I will add one card for the internal network and then
 would need the onboard card to connect to the outside world.
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Re: How do I set up a firewall with minimal disk access?

2003-11-19 Thread paul van den bergen
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:43 am, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 03:04:54PM -0600, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. 
wrote:
 : Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
 : Hi all,
 : 
 : I'm hoping to use an old laptop for a dialup firewall.  I'd like to
 :  leave it
 : always on as part of the network, but I don't want it to have the HD
 : running
 : all the time.  If possible, I'd like it to work almost completely
 :  without the drive.
 : 
 : How could I do this?
 : 
 : NOTE: Please CC me, as I am not currently subscribed.  Thanks.
 : 
 : jm
 :
 : #man picobsd

 Exactly what I needed!  Thanks!

You can also get CF and similar solid stat memory chips to IDE connection 
adaptors for around AU$30...  so you could have the boot image etc. on a disk 
with no moving parts...  also USB minidisk stuff too... quieter, no moving 
parts

for use in conjunction with picobsd, etc

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Re: upgrading 4.8 to 4.9 question....

2003-11-19 Thread paul van den bergen
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:24 am, Lewis Thompson wrote:
 On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 11:13:29AM +1100, paul van den bergen wrote:
  is there a method (other than de-installing all pkgs and reisntalling)
  to upgrade the ports or packages appropriately from 4.8 to 4.9?

 Not quite sure I fully understand, but you might want to take a look at
 portupgrade (portupgrade -a -f ;).  It's in ports/sysutils.

   Best wishes,

 -lewiz.

Ta...  I'll give it ago...

in clarification

if I upgrade from 4.8 to 4.9, will I also have to upgrade (by whatever method) 
the applications running on the box? I.e. those that are not part of the src 
tree?

for that matter, am I likely to encounter any issues with configuration files?
/etc/... and /usr/local/etc/... ???



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mouse configuration + Xwindows + KDE

2003-11-19 Thread paul van den bergen
Hi all,

I expect this is a kde question more than an xwindows or mouse question...

how does one get autofocus configured on the mouse (e.g. so that hovering over 
a window for 'n' ms  (~200 ms) brings it into focus /or the top...

frustratingly I saw this option but a week ago while doing other stuff...

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Re: mouse configuration + Xwindows + KDE

2003-11-19 Thread paul van den bergen
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 01:26 pm, paul van den bergen wrote:
 Hi all,

 I expect this is a kde question more than an xwindows or mouse question...

 how does one get autofocus configured on the mouse (e.g. so that hovering
 over a window for 'n' ms  (~200 ms) brings it into focus /or the top...

 frustratingly I saw this option but a week ago while doing other stuff...

thanks all, fixed

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Re: Newbie: The C / C++ Issue

2003-11-12 Thread paul van den bergen
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 02:24 pm, Louis LeBlanc wrote:
 On 11/12/03 09:36 PM, Lucas Holt sat at the `puter and typed:
  On Nov 12, 2003, at 8:37 PM, Marty Leisner wrote:
   BTW -- I've been doing object oriented stuff in C for years --
   its harder, but its doable.  You have a much simpler language to
   deal with.
   marty
 
  Am I missing something here?  When does C have OO capability?
  Structs don't count.  What about inheritance and polymorphism?

 That's in the implementation AND application.  Just because you CAN
 access part of a lowly struct, doesn't mean you have to.  It's object
 oriented if you OBSERVE the restricted accesses defined by OO.
 Whether or not they're there is completely irrelevant.  Of course C
 has OO capability, it just doesn't have its restrictions :)

don't confuse the language with the philosophy...

programming styles - OO, procedural, functional, whatever, are methods or even 
rulesets.  some languages suit one or the other better or worse.  One could 
write functionally in C++ if one had to... but *ouch*  ditto C wrt OO.  the 
thing is that modular C programming is scalable in ways similar to OO.  
that's sort of part way to OO.  the rest of it - inheretance, etc. when 
automated in C++ v's C make C++ more suitable to OO programming.

IMHO, ofcourse.

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Re: Another Newbie Question: C or C++

2003-11-11 Thread paul van den bergen
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:54 am, Louis LeBlanc wrote:
 Wow, that's a fairly complete list.  Agree completely on the C/C++
 application/philosophical differences.  The book list missed one very
 useful C++ book by Josutis, The C++ Standard I think.  Don't have it
 handy.

I agree with all said so far but would add that IMHO, you can't really can't 
go past o'reilly for pretty much any topic on computing... to paraphrase, 
there are plenty of bad computer books but I would guess few of them are 
O'reilly books :-) except maybe UML in a nutshell *shudder*

 You know, everyone's been telling me to give up C and just start
 working with C++.  I've been resisting pretty strongly, and now I
 realize why.  C is a geeks language.  It gives you more control than
 C++.  I like C for one primary reason:  I like to be in control.  I
 know that many of the C++ constructs, member functions, etc. are slow
 in comparison to home grown vanilla construct in C that only do what
 they are needed for.  The standard template classes use table lookups
 just to figure out what its contents look like.  If you create the
 construct from scratch, it knows whether it's holding an int, char*,
 or struct.

Like someone said, it depends what you want to do.

IMHO, C is much better for small, embedded or system level programming and C++ 
of large 'enterprise level programming. It is no wonder that C is the basis 
for most OSOSs...

and because someone mentioned Java, I thought i'd mention Forth... :-)


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Re: C / C++

2003-11-11 Thread paul van den bergen
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 02:15 pm, Alex Kelly wrote:
 Whoever mentioned the holy war may have been on to something. ;-)

Except they are all violently agreeing with one another...


I'd involke Godwin's Law if it wasn't for Quirk's Exception
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gnuplot, libtool, pdflib install hassles under FreeBSD 4.8

2003-08-20 Thread paul van den bergen
Hi all,

if you look at the end of my wits, you will see me...

In a vain attempt to get further away from windows I decided to install 
gnuplot...

running freebsd 4.8
compiled from the ports collection, can't find pdflib-4.0.3.tar.gz... OK, I go 
looking, no longer exists, now v5.0.1...

cvsup the ports collection

now looks for PDFlib-5.0.1 etc... still no luck, go looking there are various 
confusing varieties...  download freebsd versions for regular, Lite and the 
Unix Lite src  all to no avail.  (the file ports wants does not seem to 
have any instrutcions about how to manually or otherwise construct a working 
library.)

OK, finally locate the right file, get it all in place, run it compiles 
the pdf library... sort of, then I get libtool version clash...

libtool: ltconfig version `1.3.4-freebsd-ports' does not match ltmain.sh 
version `1.3.5-freebsd-ports'

Gah!

OK, compile PDFlib-Lite from the source... following the readme instructions 
(the usual ./configure, make, make install), all seems fine...

back to gnuplot

still does not work...  seems the pdflib has not registered...


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/ports/math/gnuplot# make
===   gnuplot-3.7.3_2 depends on shared library: png.5 - found
===   gnuplot-3.7.3_2 depends on shared library: pdf.5 - not found
===Verifying install for pdf.5 in /usr/ports/print/pdflib
===  Building for pdflib-5.0.1

then it starts with the libtool message above again...


(small voice)

Help!


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make in ports versus pkg_add

2003-01-16 Thread paul van den bergen
Hi all,

dumb q warning

it seems to me that doing an install from /usr/ports/... is fine and all, but 
how do you do an uninstall?

ok, with pkg_remove or pkg_delete, this is not a problem... but how does pkg 
know???



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