Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950
On Wednesday 28 January 2009 13:24:59 Kirk Strauser wrote: > On Jan 28, 2009, at 3:45 PM, Mel wrote: > > On Wednesday 28 January 2009 11:24:50 Kirk Strauser wrote: > >> On Tuesday 27 January 2009 10:32:57 Mel wrote: > >>> Even though 7.1 has bugfixes, this kind of guesswork causes a lot of > >>> downtime for OP without any certainty that things will be any > >>> better. > >> > >> If by "lots" you mean "2 minutes for a reboot", I'd be inclined to > >> agree. > > > > Right, you really want to do buildworld on a production machine that > > experiences random reboots. > > That would make the situation worse how? The worst case is that it > fails during installkernel, leaving him to boot from kernel.old. The worst case is 1 to N random reboots during buildworld (been there, done that), leaving the filesystem inconsistent, needing an fsck -y, unless you trust background_fsck, then finding out it's the hardware, not the OS. It's easy to find out if the OS panics, by enabling crash dumps. Then you can still decide whether an upgrade might fix it and you may even get a clue as to which hardware or kernel subsystem is affected, if the kernel dumps. I've had a machine where I never got buildworld to finish, tried 4 or 5 times hoping to get lucky this time... Reapplying thermal paste to the CPU heatsink made everything work. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950
On Jan 28, 2009, at 3:45 PM, Mel wrote: On Wednesday 28 January 2009 11:24:50 Kirk Strauser wrote: On Tuesday 27 January 2009 10:32:57 Mel wrote: Even though 7.1 has bugfixes, this kind of guesswork causes a lot of downtime for OP without any certainty that things will be any better. If by "lots" you mean "2 minutes for a reboot", I'd be inclined to agree. Right, you really want to do buildworld on a production machine that experiences random reboots. That would make the situation worse how? The worst case is that it fails during installkernel, leaving him to boot from kernel.old. -- Kirk Strauser ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950
On Wednesday 28 January 2009 11:24:50 Kirk Strauser wrote: > On Tuesday 27 January 2009 10:32:57 Mel wrote: > > Even though 7.1 has bugfixes, this kind of guesswork causes a lot of > > downtime for OP without any certainty that things will be any better. > > If by "lots" you mean "2 minutes for a reboot", I'd be inclined to agree. Right, you really want to do buildworld on a production machine that experiences random reboots. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950
On Tuesday 27 January 2009 10:32:57 Mel wrote: > Even though 7.1 has bugfixes, this kind of guesswork causes a lot of > downtime for OP without any certainty that things will be any better. If by "lots" you mean "2 minutes for a reboot", I'd be inclined to agree. -- Kirk Strauser ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950
>> > Well it is possible - but what information it can give me? > Could you explain - just to know if this 2 hours is acceptable for this. > Check DELL website for more info - but generally tests the harwrare componnents.. Peter ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950
> mail# cd /usr/ports/sysutils/megarc > mail# make install clean > ===> megarc-1.51 is marked as broken: Running megarc seems to cause > memory corruption. We have a PR open on that - ports/130326: http://groups.google.com/group/lucky.freebsd.ports.bugs/browse_thread/thread/14c7c3b8261e8be7/f8cd79bbd9404609?lnk=raot&pli=1 ~BAS > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/megarc. > mail# > > Hm. Do I really need it? :-) IMPORTANT: This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If the reader of this message is not an intended recipient (or the individual responsible for the delivery of this message to an intended recipient), please be advised that any re-use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950
Proskurin Kirill wrote: > Michael Toth wrote: >> >> Proskurin Kirill wrote: >>> Michael Toth wrote: Proskurin Kirill wrote: > Hello all. > > What we have: > Dell 2950 with FreeBSD-7.0-p9 on it. > It work as mail server(Exim+Dovecot and so on). > All latest version from ports. > > > After start a production use - it is start to reboot 3-4 times a day > with no reason. We think what it is a hardware problem. > > We swap RAM - not helps. > We swap chassis - not helps. > I rebiuld all ports - not helps. > (well i notice what it start to be more stable - 1 reboot in 1-2 > days) > > In attach screens of error what i have to catch. > > > Can someone say - what it can be or how to find what may cause this? > Hi, Are you by any chance running 'megarc' to check your raid controller ? >>> Hm >>> >>> Port: megarc-1.51 >>> Path: /usr/ports/sysutils/megarc >>> Info: LSI Logic's MegaRAID controlling software >>> Maint: gerrit.be...@gmx.de >>> B-deps: >>> R-deps: >>> WWW:http://www.lsilogic.com/products/megaraid/ >>> >>> Do you think it can work with Dell controller? >>> >> I know it works w/ the Dell controllers, I have also had issues with it >> where it randomly made my machines (all Power Edge 2950 running 7.x) >> core dump > > mail# cd /usr/ports/sysutils/megarc > mail# make install clean > ===> megarc-1.51 is marked as broken: Running megarc seems to cause > memory corruption. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/megarc. > mail# > > Hm. Do I really need it? :-) > No, you do not really need it, it would just allow you to get information from the raid controller (and as I said before this port caused me issues and core dump'd my machines) I was more trying to get at IF you were running this that if may have been the cause of your issues. As someone else has already mentioned you really need to find out if there is a kernel panic or not and going from there. -- -- [ Queldor ] (Warning: This message may cause you to understand something) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950
Peter пишет: Proskurin Kirill wrote: Peter wrote: Hi, Try updating to lastest version: BIOS RAID Controller BIOS RAID Controller Firmware Do you think it can be a problem? It is possible to test it some how? This host is really far away from me. Last 3 months I had issues will DELL 1650 and DELL R200. In both cases BIOS update fixed it. 1) DELL 1650 - FreeBSD did not want to installl, after BIOS udpate all went well 2) DELL R200 with SATA - no problems 2) DELL R200 with SAS, installed well, extremely scary message about HDD, after BIOS update, RAID controller BIOS udpate and RAID controller firmware udpate all went well BTW when the R200 scared me , I got a DELL diagniostic CD with FreeDOS and it did full system test. If you can get KVM over IP, have someone to put in the CD and 2 hours downtime is acceptable, it is good idea to run that CD on your machine. Well it is possible - but what information it can give me? Could you explain - just to know if this 2 hours is acceptable for this. -- Best regards, Proskurin Kirill ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950
Proskurin Kirill wrote: > Peter wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Try updating to lastest version: >> >> BIOS >> RAID Controller BIOS >> RAID Controller Firmware > > Do you think it can be a problem? > It is possible to test it some how? > > This host is really far away from me. > Last 3 months I had issues will DELL 1650 and DELL R200. In both cases BIOS update fixed it. 1) DELL 1650 - FreeBSD did not want to installl, after BIOS udpate all went well 2) DELL R200 with SATA - no problems 2) DELL R200 with SAS, installed well, extremely scary message about HDD, after BIOS update, RAID controller BIOS udpate and RAID controller firmware udpate all went well BTW when the R200 scared me , I got a DELL diagniostic CD with FreeDOS and it did full system test. If you can get KVM over IP, have someone to put in the CD and 2 hours downtime is acceptable, it is good idea to run that CD on your machine. Peter ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950
On Tuesday 27 January 2009 01:02:00 Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri wrote: > Because there are many bugs were in 7.0 and got fixed in 7.1, and maybe you > are affected by one of them. Even though 7.1 has bugfixes, this kind of guesswork causes a lot of downtime for OP without any certainty that things will be any better. At the very least, we should find out if the OS is at fault at all. For Proskurin: Find out if the machine reboots, because of a kernel panic and if so try to get a kernel crash dump [1]. If it does not panic, you're 90% sure it's a hardware issue. The remaining 10% is left for the case where FreeBSD does not configure hardware correctly through ACPI, causing hardware to operate badly. [1] http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950
Michael Toth wrote: Proskurin Kirill wrote: Michael Toth wrote: Proskurin Kirill wrote: Hello all. What we have: Dell 2950 with FreeBSD-7.0-p9 on it. It work as mail server(Exim+Dovecot and so on). All latest version from ports. After start a production use - it is start to reboot 3-4 times a day with no reason. We think what it is a hardware problem. We swap RAM - not helps. We swap chassis - not helps. I rebiuld all ports - not helps. (well i notice what it start to be more stable - 1 reboot in 1-2 days) In attach screens of error what i have to catch. Can someone say - what it can be or how to find what may cause this? Hi, Are you by any chance running 'megarc' to check your raid controller ? Hm Port: megarc-1.51 Path: /usr/ports/sysutils/megarc Info: LSI Logic's MegaRAID controlling software Maint: gerrit.be...@gmx.de B-deps: R-deps: WWW:http://www.lsilogic.com/products/megaraid/ Do you think it can work with Dell controller? I know it works w/ the Dell controllers, I have also had issues with it where it randomly made my machines (all Power Edge 2950 running 7.x) core dump mail# cd /usr/ports/sysutils/megarc mail# make install clean ===> megarc-1.51 is marked as broken: Running megarc seems to cause memory corruption. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/megarc. mail# Hm. Do I really need it? :-) -- Best regards, Proskurin Kirill ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950
Proskurin Kirill wrote: > Michael Toth wrote: >> Proskurin Kirill wrote: >>> Hello all. >>> >>> What we have: >>> Dell 2950 with FreeBSD-7.0-p9 on it. >>> It work as mail server(Exim+Dovecot and so on). >>> All latest version from ports. >>> >>> >>> After start a production use - it is start to reboot 3-4 times a day >>> with no reason. We think what it is a hardware problem. >>> >>> We swap RAM - not helps. >>> We swap chassis - not helps. >>> I rebiuld all ports - not helps. >>> (well i notice what it start to be more stable - 1 reboot in 1-2 days) >>> >>> In attach screens of error what i have to catch. >>> >>> >>> Can someone say - what it can be or how to find what may cause this? >>> >> Hi, >> Are you by any chance running 'megarc' to check your raid controller ? >> > > Hm > > Port: megarc-1.51 > Path: /usr/ports/sysutils/megarc > Info: LSI Logic's MegaRAID controlling software > Maint: gerrit.be...@gmx.de > B-deps: > R-deps: > WWW:http://www.lsilogic.com/products/megaraid/ > > Do you think it can work with Dell controller? > I know it works w/ the Dell controllers, I have also had issues with it where it randomly made my machines (all Power Edge 2950 running 7.x) core dump ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950
Michael Toth wrote: Proskurin Kirill wrote: Hello all. What we have: Dell 2950 with FreeBSD-7.0-p9 on it. It work as mail server(Exim+Dovecot and so on). All latest version from ports. After start a production use - it is start to reboot 3-4 times a day with no reason. We think what it is a hardware problem. We swap RAM - not helps. We swap chassis - not helps. I rebiuld all ports - not helps. (well i notice what it start to be more stable - 1 reboot in 1-2 days) In attach screens of error what i have to catch. Can someone say - what it can be or how to find what may cause this? Hi, Are you by any chance running 'megarc' to check your raid controller ? Hm Port: megarc-1.51 Path: /usr/ports/sysutils/megarc Info: LSI Logic's MegaRAID controlling software Maint: gerrit.be...@gmx.de B-deps: R-deps: WWW:http://www.lsilogic.com/products/megaraid/ Do you think it can work with Dell controller? -- Best regards, Proskurin Kirill ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950
Peter wrote: Hi, Try updating to lastest version: BIOS RAID Controller BIOS RAID Controller Firmware Do you think it can be a problem? It is possible to test it some how? This host is really far away from me. -- Best regards, Proskurin Kirill ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950
Hi, Try updating to lastest version: BIOS RAID Controller BIOS RAID Controller Firmware Peter Proskurin Kirill wrote: > Hello all. > > What we have: > Dell 2950 with FreeBSD-7.0-p9 on it. > It work as mail server(Exim+Dovecot and so on). > All latest version from ports. > > > After start a production use - it is start to reboot 3-4 times a day > with no reason. We think what it is a hardware problem. > > We swap RAM - not helps. > We swap chassis - not helps. > I rebiuld all ports - not helps. > (well i notice what it start to be more stable - 1 reboot in 1-2 days) > > In attach screens of error what i have to catch. > > > Can someone say - what it can be or how to find what may cause this? > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950
Mikhail Goriachev wrote: Proskurin Kirill wrote: Hello all. What we have: Dell 2950 with FreeBSD-7.0-p9 on it. It work as mail server(Exim+Dovecot and so on). All latest version from ports. After start a production use - it is start to reboot 3-4 times a day with no reason. We think what it is a hardware problem. We swap RAM - not helps. We swap chassis - not helps. I rebiuld all ports - not helps. (well i notice what it start to be more stable - 1 reboot in 1-2 days) Check the fan on the CPU. Probably it's dead or malfunctioning. Also check the heat sink underneath the fan. It could be dirty and blocking the airflow. No - fan is work good. It is not a heat problem. -- Best regards, Proskurin Kirill ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950
- Original Message > From: Proskurin Kirill > To: Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri ; FreeBSD Questions > Mailing List > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 12:45:46 PM > Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950 > > Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri wrote: > > - Original Message > > > >> From: Proskurin Kirill > >> To: freebsd-questions > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 12:07:25 PM > >> Subject: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950 > >> > >> Hello all. > >> > >> What we have: > >> Dell 2950 with FreeBSD-7.0-p9 on it. > >> It work as mail server(Exim+Dovecot and so on). > >> All latest version from ports. > >> > >> > >> After start a production use - it is start to reboot 3-4 times a day with > >> no > >> reason. We think what it is a hardware problem. > >> > >> We swap RAM - not helps. > >> We swap chassis - not helps. > >> I rebiuld all ports - not helps. > >> (well i notice what it start to be more stable - 1 reboot in 1-2 days) > >> > >> In attach screens of error what i have to catch. > >> > >> > >> Can someone say - what it can be or how to find what may cause this? > > > I think you should upgrade to FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE at least, if not > -STABLE. > > Well - why I must do this? It is was a some problems with 7.0? > I don`t want to do this just to do this. Well - if nothing helps may be. > > -- > Best regards, > Proskurin Kirill Because there are many bugs were in 7.0 and got fixed in 7.1, and maybe you are affected by one of them. Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950
Proskurin Kirill wrote: > Hello all. > > What we have: > Dell 2950 with FreeBSD-7.0-p9 on it. > It work as mail server(Exim+Dovecot and so on). > All latest version from ports. > > > After start a production use - it is start to reboot 3-4 times a day > with no reason. We think what it is a hardware problem. > > We swap RAM - not helps. > We swap chassis - not helps. > I rebiuld all ports - not helps. > (well i notice what it start to be more stable - 1 reboot in 1-2 days) > > In attach screens of error what i have to catch. > > > Can someone say - what it can be or how to find what may cause this? Check the fan on the CPU. Probably it's dead or malfunctioning. Also check the heat sink underneath the fan. It could be dirty and blocking the airflow. Regards, Mikhail. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950
Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri wrote: - Original Message From: Proskurin Kirill To: freebsd-questions Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 12:07:25 PM Subject: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950 Hello all. What we have: Dell 2950 with FreeBSD-7.0-p9 on it. It work as mail server(Exim+Dovecot and so on). All latest version from ports. After start a production use - it is start to reboot 3-4 times a day with no reason. We think what it is a hardware problem. We swap RAM - not helps. We swap chassis - not helps. I rebiuld all ports - not helps. (well i notice what it start to be more stable - 1 reboot in 1-2 days) In attach screens of error what i have to catch. Can someone say - what it can be or how to find what may cause this? > I think you should upgrade to FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE at least, if not -STABLE. Well - why I must do this? It is was a some problems with 7.0? I don`t want to do this just to do this. Well - if nothing helps may be. -- Best regards, Proskurin Kirill ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950
- Original Message > From: Proskurin Kirill > To: freebsd-questions > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 12:07:25 PM > Subject: FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950 > > Hello all. > > What we have: > Dell 2950 with FreeBSD-7.0-p9 on it. > It work as mail server(Exim+Dovecot and so on). > All latest version from ports. > > > After start a production use - it is start to reboot 3-4 times a day with no > reason. We think what it is a hardware problem. > > We swap RAM - not helps. > We swap chassis - not helps. > I rebiuld all ports - not helps. > (well i notice what it start to be more stable - 1 reboot in 1-2 days) > > In attach screens of error what i have to catch. > > > Can someone say - what it can be or how to find what may cause this? > > -- Best regards, > Proskurin Kirill I think you should upgrade to FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE at least, if not -STABLE. Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
FreeBSD 7.0 reboots on Dell 2950
Hello all. What we have: Dell 2950 with FreeBSD-7.0-p9 on it. It work as mail server(Exim+Dovecot and so on). All latest version from ports. After start a production use - it is start to reboot 3-4 times a day with no reason. We think what it is a hardware problem. We swap RAM - not helps. We swap chassis - not helps. I rebiuld all ports - not helps. (well i notice what it start to be more stable - 1 reboot in 1-2 days) In attach screens of error what i have to catch. Can someone say - what it can be or how to find what may cause this? -- Best regards, Proskurin Kirill ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
