Re: Newbie question about freebsd-update: single user mode is not needed anymore?

2013-01-02 Thread ASV
Well,
I understand your concern. I've been using the freebsd-update method
since several years now and mostly remotely. I've never encounter a
problem. I haven't recompiled everything many times as I didn't really
found a tangible advantage in this method but I've never thought about
this. I believe some developer around here can provide you a neat
explanation about that (which is going to be interesting to know).

Strictly about your concern I believe whatever way you use for your
upgrade you CANNOT be 100% sure that your upgrade will go smoothly and
things like loosing control of your remote box will not happen. Even
though jumping from close releases 9.0 = 9.1 is a low risk upgrade, a
console access to your remote server (via terminal server/KVM/other) is
imperative in these cases to avoid the worst.


On Mon, 2012-12-31 at 16:50 +0100, Jose Garcia Juanino wrote:
 El lunes 31 de diciembre a las 16:27:44 CET, ASV escribió:
  Hi Jose,
  
  with the freebsd-update method you don't need to pass through the make
  installworld as it's a binary patch/upgrade system.
  Using freebsd-update upgrade -r 9.1-RELEASE for example allows you to
  get your system patched directly without recompiling the kernel and the
  userland but getting binary patches from the repo and applying these
  directly on your system.
  Check the following page for a more detailed explanation and be aware
  that upgrading your ports/packages is required every time you upgrade
  your kernel to a major version (which would be your case).
  
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html
  
  Happy new year.
 
 Thanks for your response.
 
 The freebsd-update upgrade method is:
 1- freebsd-update install # will install a new kernel and modules
 2- reboot in multi user
 3- freebsd-update install # will install new userland
 4- reboot in multi user
 
 The src upgrade method is:
 1- make installkernel # will install a new kernel
 2- reboot in single user
 3- make installworld  # will install a new userland
 4- reboot in multiuser
 
 I think that the third step is essentially the same in both methods: it
 will install a new userland. But the second one require to be ran in
 single user, and the first one does not. Why?
 
 My unique concern is that step 2 in freebsd-update method goes
 smootly: it will boot kernel in 9.1-RELEASE but userland in 9.0-RELEASE.
 If the system hangs giving up the net or other essential service, I will
 not be able to reach the computer via ssh.
 
 Regards


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Re: Newbie question about freebsd-update: single user mode is not needed anymore?

2013-01-02 Thread ASV
For some reason my email hasn't apparently been delivered so I'm re-sending it.

From:  ASV a...@inhio.eu
To: Jose Garcia Juanino jjuan...@gmail.com
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:Re: Newbie question about freebsd-update: single user mode is 
not needed anymore?
Date:   Mon, 31 Dec 2012 17:19:19 +0100|

Well,
I understand your concern. I've been using the freebsd-update method
since several years now and mostly remotely. I've never encounter a
problem. I haven't recompiled everything many times as I didn't really
found a tangible advantage in this method but I've never thought about
this. I believe some developer around here can provide you a neat
explanation about that (which is going to be interesting to know).

Strictly about your concern I believe whatever way you use for your
upgrade you CANNOT be 100% sure that your upgrade will go smoothly and
things like loosing control of your remote box will not happen. Even
though jumping from close releases 9.0 = 9.1 is a low risk upgrade, a
console access to your remote server (via terminal server/KVM/other) is
imperative in these cases to avoid the worst.


On Mon, 2012-12-31 at 16:50 +0100, Jose Garcia Juanino wrote:
 El lunes 31 de diciembre a las 16:27:44 CET, ASV escribió:
  Hi Jose,
  
  with the freebsd-update method you don't need to pass through the make
  installworld as it's a binary patch/upgrade system.
  Using freebsd-update upgrade -r 9.1-RELEASE for example allows you to
  get your system patched directly without recompiling the kernel and the
  userland but getting binary patches from the repo and applying these
  directly on your system.
  Check the following page for a more detailed explanation and be aware
  that upgrading your ports/packages is required every time you upgrade
  your kernel to a major version (which would be your case).
  
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html
  
  Happy new year.
 
 Thanks for your response.
 
 The freebsd-update upgrade method is:
 1- freebsd-update install # will install a new kernel and modules
 2- reboot in multi user
 3- freebsd-update install # will install new userland
 4- reboot in multi user
 
 The src upgrade method is:
 1- make installkernel # will install a new kernel
 2- reboot in single user
 3- make installworld  # will install a new userland
 4- reboot in multiuser
 
 I think that the third step is essentially the same in both methods: it
 will install a new userland. But the second one require to be ran in
 single user, and the first one does not. Why?
 
 My unique concern is that step 2 in freebsd-update method goes
 smootly: it will boot kernel in 9.1-RELEASE but userland in 9.0-RELEASE.
 If the system hangs giving up the net or other essential service, I will
 not be able to reach the computer via ssh.
 
 Regards



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Re: Newbie question about freebsd-update: single user mode is not needed anymore?

2013-01-02 Thread ASV
Hi Jose,

with the freebsd-update method you don't need to pass through the make
installworld as it's a binary patch/upgrade system.
Using freebsd-update upgrade -r 9.1-RELEASE for example allows you to
get your system patched directly without recompiling the kernel and the
userland but getting binary patches from the repo and applying these
directly on your system.
Check the following page for a more detailed explanation and be aware
that upgrading your ports/packages is required every time you upgrade
your kernel to a major version (which would be your case).

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html

Happy new year.



On Mon, 2012-12-31 at 13:13 +0100, Jose Garcia Juanino wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am planning to upgrade from FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE to
 FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE. With upgrade source method, it is always needed to
 do the make installworld step in single user mode. But it seems to
 be that single user is not required with freebsd-update method, in the
 second freebsd-update install. Someone could explain the reason? Am I
 misunderstanding something? Can I run the upgrade enterely by mean a ssh
 connection in a safe way, or will I need a serial console?
 
 Best regards, and excuse my poor english.


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Newbie question about freebsd-update: single user mode is not needed anymore?

2012-12-31 Thread Jose Garcia Juanino
Hi,

I am planning to upgrade from FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE to
FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE. With upgrade source method, it is always needed to
do the make installworld step in single user mode. But it seems to
be that single user is not required with freebsd-update method, in the
second freebsd-update install. Someone could explain the reason? Am I
misunderstanding something? Can I run the upgrade enterely by mean a ssh
connection in a safe way, or will I need a serial console?

Best regards, and excuse my poor english.


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Re: Newbie question about freebsd-update: single user mode is not needed anymore?

2012-12-31 Thread Jose Garcia Juanino
El lunes 31 de diciembre a las 16:27:44 CET, ASV escribió:
 Hi Jose,
 
 with the freebsd-update method you don't need to pass through the make
 installworld as it's a binary patch/upgrade system.
 Using freebsd-update upgrade -r 9.1-RELEASE for example allows you to
 get your system patched directly without recompiling the kernel and the
 userland but getting binary patches from the repo and applying these
 directly on your system.
 Check the following page for a more detailed explanation and be aware
 that upgrading your ports/packages is required every time you upgrade
 your kernel to a major version (which would be your case).
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html
 
 Happy new year.

Thanks for your response.

The freebsd-update upgrade method is:
1- freebsd-update install # will install a new kernel and modules
2- reboot in multi user
3- freebsd-update install # will install new userland
4- reboot in multi user

The src upgrade method is:
1- make installkernel # will install a new kernel
2- reboot in single user
3- make installworld  # will install a new userland
4- reboot in multiuser

I think that the third step is essentially the same in both methods: it
will install a new userland. But the second one require to be ran in
single user, and the first one does not. Why?

My unique concern is that step 2 in freebsd-update method goes
smootly: it will boot kernel in 9.1-RELEASE but userland in 9.0-RELEASE.
If the system hangs giving up the net or other essential service, I will
not be able to reach the computer via ssh.

Regards


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Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?

2012-06-13 Thread Walter Hurry
On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 12:21:31 -0500, Dan Lists wrote:

 The syntax of his crontab file is correct.  Vixie cron does care about
 leading spaces, tabs, extra spaces, or leading zeros.  Earlier versions
 of cron are much pickier about the crontab file.   The cron logs show
 that it is starting his jobs at the correct times.
 
 It is far more likely that there is a problem with the scripts.  A very
 common cause of problems with scripts run from cron is that they do not
 inherit your environment.   Do the scripts run from the command line? 
 If the do, then the problem is most likely something in your environment
 that the scripts need.

I'm a complete idiot, and I feel embarrassed. Everything was fine, except 
that I had missed out '/bin' in the paths of the jobs.

I had:
/home/walterh/exports.sh
/home/walterh/backup_etc.sh
/home/walterh/systemcheck.sh
/home/walterh/backup_bsd.sh

which should of course have been:
/home/walterh/bin/exports.sh
/home/walterh/bin/backup_etc.sh
/home/walterh/bin/systemcheck.sh
/home/walterh/bin/backup_bsd.sh

What a stupid mistake! Thanks for all the replies, but I must say sorry 
for wasting your time. Sorry!

WH

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Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?

2012-06-13 Thread Chris
On 6/13/2012 6:23 PM, Walter Hurry wrote:
 On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 12:21:31 -0500, Dan Lists wrote:
 
 The syntax of his crontab file is correct.  Vixie cron does care about
 leading spaces, tabs, extra spaces, or leading zeros.  Earlier versions
 of cron are much pickier about the crontab file.   The cron logs show
 that it is starting his jobs at the correct times.

 It is far more likely that there is a problem with the scripts.  A very
 common cause of problems with scripts run from cron is that they do not
 inherit your environment.   Do the scripts run from the command line? 
 If the do, then the problem is most likely something in your environment
 that the scripts need.
 
 I'm a complete idiot, and I feel embarrassed. Everything was fine, except 
 that I had missed out '/bin' in the paths of the jobs.
 
 I had:
 /home/walterh/exports.sh
 /home/walterh/backup_etc.sh
 /home/walterh/systemcheck.sh
 /home/walterh/backup_bsd.sh
 
 which should of course have been:
 /home/walterh/bin/exports.sh
 /home/walterh/bin/backup_etc.sh
 /home/walterh/bin/systemcheck.sh
 /home/walterh/bin/backup_bsd.sh
 
 What a stupid mistake! Thanks for all the replies, but I must say sorry 
 for wasting your time. Sorry!
 
 WH

... Damned those full path names.


-- 
Keep well,

Chris
 
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Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?

2012-06-12 Thread Ramiro Caso

On 11/06/2012 23:10, Michael Sierchio wrote:

On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Walter Hurry walterhu...@gmail.com wrote:

As the subject says, this is probably a newbie question (I am new to
FreeBSD but quite experienced at Linux).

FreeBSD9 on x86_64.

Cron is running:

$ ps -ax|grep cron

  1513  ??  Is 0:00.01 /usr/sbin/cron -s

  2283   0  S+ 0:00.00 grep cron

$

I have a syntactically valid crontab:

$ crontab -l
#min hr dom month dow command

SHELL=/bin/bash


Pitfall: Even if bash is installed, it's not usually under /bin, but 
under /usr/local/bin




PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/home/
daddy/bin

HOME=/home/walterh

  00  02 *   * *   /home/walterh/exports.sh

  05  02 *   * *   /home/walterh/backup_etc.sh

  10  02 *   * *   /home/walterh/systemcheck.sh

  15  02 *   * *   /home/walterh/backup_bsd.sh

$

So what is wrong? Why is nothing happening? I have consulted the handbook
but see nothing.

Have you installed bash?  It's not in the system base.

What's in your shell scripts?

- M
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Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?

2012-06-12 Thread Mark Felder
On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:06:21 -0500, Robert Bonomi  
bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:


Comment: using a leading zero on the numeric fields is a BAD IDEA(tm) --  
you
are *strongly* encocuraged to remove them.  Yes, that means numbers will  
not
be column aligned, but it is a small price to pay to avoid the  
hair-tearing

that =will= ensue when using it bites you.


Any other info on this? I've never heard of this before and I've never  
seen an issue using leading zeroes on the minutes value.

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Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?

2012-06-12 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Mark Felder f...@feld.me writes:

 On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:06:21 -0500, Robert Bonomi
 bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:

 Comment: using a leading zero on the numeric fields is a BAD IDEA(tm) -- 
 you
 are *strongly* encocuraged to remove them.  Yes, that means numbers
 will not
 be column aligned, but it is a small price to pay to avoid the
 hair-tearing
 that =will= ensue when using it bites you.

 Any other info on this? I've never heard of this before and I've never
 seen an issue using leading zeroes on the minutes value.

I don't have ready access to source at the moment, but I would expect
(like the normal C I/O functions) it will be interpreted as octal.
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Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?

2012-06-12 Thread Mark Felder
On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:36:37 -0500, Lowell Gilbert  
freebsd-questions-lo...@be-well.ilk.org wrote:



I don't have ready access to source at the moment, but I would expect
(like the normal C I/O functions) it will be interpreted as octal.


Suppose we could always ask Paul Vixie :-)
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Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?

2012-06-12 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 08:29:02 -0500, Mark Felder wrote:
 On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:06:21 -0500, Robert Bonomi  
 bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:
 
  Comment: using a leading zero on the numeric fields is a BAD IDEA(tm) --  
  you
  are *strongly* encocuraged to remove them.  Yes, that means numbers will  
  not
  be column aligned, but it is a small price to pay to avoid the  
  hair-tearing
  that =will= ensue when using it bites you.
 
 Any other info on this? I've never heard of this before and I've never  
 seen an issue using leading zeroes on the minutes value.

There are some specific interpretations that _may_ be
interpreted according to the C rules, e. g. prefix 0x-
for hexadecimal or 08- for octal notation. For example,
083 != 83, just as 0x83 != 83. As it has been mentioned,
spaces also have a significant meaning in crontabs, so
they cannot be used everywhere to align data columns.



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Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?

2012-06-12 Thread Dan Lists
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
 On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 08:29:02 -0500, Mark Felder wrote:
 On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:06:21 -0500, Robert Bonomi
 bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:

  Comment: using a leading zero on the numeric fields is a BAD IDEA(tm) --
  you
  are *strongly* encocuraged to remove them.  Yes, that means numbers will
  not
  be column aligned, but it is a small price to pay to avoid the
  hair-tearing
  that =will= ensue when using it bites you.

 Any other info on this? I've never heard of this before and I've never
 seen an issue using leading zeroes on the minutes value.

 There are some specific interpretations that _may_ be
 interpreted according to the C rules, e. g. prefix 0x-
 for hexadecimal or 08- for octal notation. For example,
 083 != 83, just as 0x83 != 83. As it has been mentioned,
 spaces also have a significant meaning in crontabs, so
 they cannot be used everywhere to align data columns.


The syntax of his crontab file is correct.  Vixie cron does care about
leading spaces, tabs, extra spaces, or leading zeros.  Earlier
versions of cron are much pickier about the crontab file.   The cron
logs show that it is starting his jobs at the correct times.

It is far more likely that there is a problem with the scripts.  A
very common cause of problems with scripts run from cron is that they
do not inherit your environment.   Do the scripts run from the command
line?  If the do, then the problem is most likely something in your
environment that the scripts need.
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Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?

2012-06-11 Thread Walter Hurry
As the subject says, this is probably a newbie question (I am new to 
FreeBSD but quite experienced at Linux).

FreeBSD9 on x86_64.

Cron is running:

$ ps -ax|grep cron

 1513  ??  Is 0:00.01 /usr/sbin/cron -s

 2283   0  S+ 0:00.00 grep cron

$

I have a syntactically valid crontab:

$ crontab -l
#min hr dom month dow command

SHELL=/bin/bash

PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/home/
daddy/bin

HOME=/home/walterh

 00  02 *   * *   /home/walterh/exports.sh

 05  02 *   * *   /home/walterh/backup_etc.sh

 10  02 *   * *   /home/walterh/systemcheck.sh

 15  02 *   * *   /home/walterh/backup_bsd.sh

$ 

So what is wrong? Why is nothing happening? I have consulted the handbook 
but see nothing.

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Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?

2012-06-11 Thread Michael Sierchio
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Walter Hurry walterhu...@gmail.com wrote:
 As the subject says, this is probably a newbie question (I am new to

 FreeBSD but quite experienced at Linux).

 FreeBSD9 on x86_64.

 Cron is running:

 $ ps -ax|grep cron

  1513  ??  Is     0:00.01 /usr/sbin/cron -s

  2283   0  S+     0:00.00 grep cron

 $

 I have a syntactically valid crontab:

 $ crontab -l
 #min hr dom month dow command

 SHELL=/bin/bash

 PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/home/
 daddy/bin

 HOME=/home/walterh

  00  02 *   *     *   /home/walterh/exports.sh

  05  02 *   *     *   /home/walterh/backup_etc.sh

  10  02 *   *     *   /home/walterh/systemcheck.sh

  15  02 *   *     *   /home/walterh/backup_bsd.sh

 $

 So what is wrong? Why is nothing happening? I have consulted the handbook
 but see nothing.

Have you installed bash?  It's not in the system base.

What's in your shell scripts?

- M
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Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?

2012-06-11 Thread Walter Hurry
On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:10:21 -0700, Michael Sierchio wrote:

 Have you installed bash?  It's not in the system base.
 
 What's in your shell scripts?

Thanks for the quick response.

$ pkg_info|grep bash

bash-4.2.28 The GNU Project's Bourne Again SHell

$ which bash

/bin/bash

$ 

$ less $HOME/bin/exports.sh

#!/bin/bash

LOG=$HOME/log/exports.log

logger -t walterh-cronjob Exports started

echo Exports started at `date`  $LOG

rm $HOME/postgresql/*

psql packages -f $HOME/sql/exports.sql

cd $HOME/postgresql

tar cfz postgresql.tgz *

rm *csv

echo Exports finished at `date`  $LOG

logger -t walterh-cronjob Exports finished

/home/walterh/bin/exports.sh (END)

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Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?

2012-06-11 Thread Michael Sierchio
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Walter Hurry walterhu...@gmail.com wrote:

cat /etc/shells
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Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?

2012-06-11 Thread Walter Hurry
On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:21:12 -0500, Adam Vande More wrote:

 You really have bash in /bin ?  Are your scripts executable?  What does
 /var/log/cron say?

$ file /bin/bash

/bin/bash: symbolic link to `/usr/local/bin/bash'

$ sudo tail -50 /var/log/cron (result snipped at 02:22:00 for brevity)

Jun 12 01:55:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1780]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/
atrun)

Jun 12 02:00:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1823]: (root) CMD (newsyslog)

Jun 12 02:00:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1825]: (operator) CMD (/usr/
libexec/save-entropy)

Jun 12 02:00:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1824]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/
atrun)

Jun 12 02:00:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1836]: (walterh) CMD (/home/
walterh/exports.sh)

Jun 12 02:01:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1849]: (root) CMD (adjkerntz -a)

Jun 12 02:05:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1874]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/
atrun)

Jun 12 02:05:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1875]: (walterh) CMD (/home/
walterh/backup_etc.sh)

Jun 12 02:10:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1912]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/
atrun)

Jun 12 02:10:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1913]: (walterh) CMD (/home/
walterh/systemcheck.sh)

Jun 12 02:11:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1924]: (operator) CMD (/usr/
libexec/save-entropy)

Jun 12 02:15:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1981]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/
atrun)

Jun 12 02:15:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1982]: (walterh) CMD (/home/
walterh/backup_bsd.sh)

Jun 12 02:20:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[2013]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/
atrun)

Jun 12 02:22:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[2025]: (operator) CMD (/usr/
libexec/save-entropy)

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Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?

2012-06-11 Thread Walter Hurry
On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:36:28 -0700, Michael Sierchio wrote:

 cat /etc/shells

$ cat /etc/shells
# $FreeBSD: release/9.0.0/etc/shells 59717 2000-04-27 21:58:46Z ache $
#
# List of acceptable shells for chpass(1).
# Ftpd will not allow users to connect who are not using
# one of these shells.
/bin/sh
/bin/csh
/bin/tcsh
/usr/local/bin/bash
/usr/local/bin/rbash
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Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?

2012-06-11 Thread Chris
On 6/11/2012 9:25 PM, Walter Hurry wrote:
 On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:10:21 -0700, Michael Sierchio wrote:
 
 Have you installed bash?  It's not in the system base.

 What's in your shell scripts?
 
 Thanks for the quick response.
 
 $ pkg_info|grep bash
 
 bash-4.2.28 The GNU Project's Bourne Again SHell
 
 $ which bash
 
 /bin/bash
 
 $ 
 
 $ less $HOME/bin/exports.sh
 
 #!/bin/bash
 
 LOG=$HOME/log/exports.log
 
 logger -t walterh-cronjob Exports started
 
 echo Exports started at `date`  $LOG
 
 rm $HOME/postgresql/*
 
 psql packages -f $HOME/sql/exports.sql
 
 cd $HOME/postgresql
 
 tar cfz postgresql.tgz *
 
 rm *csv
 
 echo Exports finished at `date`  $LOG
 
 logger -t walterh-cronjob Exports finished
 
 /home/walterh/bin/exports.sh (END)
 
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I tend to use full path names in my shell scripts.
So for shits n giggles, try that.
Instead of tar cfz postgresql.tgz *
Try /bin/tar cfz postgresql.tgz *  etc, etc, etc

Use the paths for all commands such as rm, psql, logger etc.

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Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?

2012-06-11 Thread Robert Bonomi

Walter Hurry walterhu...@gmail.com wrote:

 As the subject says, this is probably a newbie question (I am new to 
 FreeBSD but quite experienced at Linux).

 FreeBSD9 on x86_64.

 Cron is running:

 $ ps -ax|grep cron

  1513  ??  Is 0:00.01 /usr/sbin/cron -s

  2283   0  S+ 0:00.00 grep cron

 $

 I have a syntactically valid crontab:

'Syntactically valid', yes, but I believe it does not mean what you think
it does applies.  more below.

 $ crontab -l
 #min hr dom month dow command

 SHELL=/bin/bash

 PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/home/
 daddy/bin

 HOME=/home/walterh

  00  02 *   * *   /home/walterh/exports.sh

  05  02 *   * *   /home/walterh/backup_etc.sh

  10  02 *   * *   /home/walterh/systemcheck.sh

  15  02 *   * *   /home/walterh/backup_bsd.sh

 $ 

 So what is wrong? Why is nothing happening? I have consulted the handbook 
 but see nothing.

It _appears_ that there is whitespace _before_ the purporte 'minutes' value 
on each line that you intend to invoke a command.  If so, -THAT- is probably
what is causinng the unexpected behavior.  I believe cron is looking for
the 'minutes' value _before_ any white space, and using a value of '0' when
it finds 'nothing' before the white-space Field-separator.  That, thus,
the all the commands run at 'zero minutes' past the various hours, on the
-second- day of the month, and that command-line that cron would -attempt-
to execute on the 2nd looks like, *   /home/walterh/systemcheck.sh, which,
of course will have *wildly* unexpected results, epecially if the first
element of the '*' expansion _is_ marked as executable.

Remove the leading white-space and things should work the way you 'expect'.

Comment: using a leading zero on the numeric fields is a BAD IDEA(tm) -- you
are *strongly* encocuraged to remove them.  Yes, that means numbers will not
be column aligned, but it is a small price to pay to avoid the hair-tearing
that =will= ensue when using it bites you.


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zfs newbie question

2011-05-26 Thread icema
hi,
i have a new fbsd-8.2 install (dual boot with win7, just desktop general use) 
on entirely ufs disk, and am not 
sure how to mount a zfs  formatted disk from a previous install, without 
loosing what is on there. (freebsd-zfs).

in short, the zfs disk was from a previous freebsd install, same version, just 
needed to wipe/reinstall, which was also
entirely ufs. To try out zfs i used a full separate disk, partiitoned and setup 
as freebsd-zfs through gpt, then created 
the pool specifying it. i.e   

zpool create foo /dev/ad10.

atm i dont have a pool at all and dont know if i use that command, if it will 
simple create one and mount ad10, 
retaining the data on it or whether that will just reinitialise, wiping the 
data in the process.

to avoid surprises, i have been looking around to see if u can create an empty 
pool (without specifying disk space or w/e),
then try the ‘add’ command instead, to add it there, but i dont see that thats 
possible so far; and i dont have spare space 
to use in creating a new pool.

so, is it entirely safe to use zpool create foo /dev/ad10 to mount it and 
retain data, or is there some way to create an empty pool?

thanks in advance
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RE: zfs newbie question

2011-05-26 Thread a . smith

Hi,

  zpool create is a destructive command to data on the disks, ie any  
preexisting pool, but it would normally warn you if it found an  
existing pool on the disks you are trying to use.

Run:

# zpool import

and it will scan any attached disks for pools that are importable, if  
it detects your old pool then you can import it again via the zpool  
import poolname command,


cheers Andy.



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Re: zfs newbie question

2011-05-26 Thread icema

On 05/26/11 17:29, a.sm...@ukgrid.net wrote:

Hi,

  zpool create is a destructive command to data on the disks, ie any 
preexisting pool, but it would normally warn you if it found an 
existing pool on the disks you are trying to use.

Run:

# zpool import

and it will scan any attached disks for pools that are importable, if 
it detects your old pool then you can import it again via the zpool 
import poolname command,


cheers Andy.



thank u vm

took 2secs.
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Newbie question about ASYNC communication with FTDI-based device (via uftdi)

2009-09-19 Thread Pierre-Luc Drouin

Hi,

I'm trying to hack the code of tbancontrol, a linux tool used to control 
t-balancer fan controllers that use FTDI FT232BL chips. It seems to be 
working fine on linux, but when I try to use it on FreeBSD, I noticed 
that read calls fail with Interruted system call. It seems there is 
something wrong with the SIGIO signal since it is generated as soon as 
tcsetattr is called. I guess there must be something wrong with either 
the way the device is opened or (more likely) the way the descriptor is 
configured, but I have very little experience with serial 
communication... Here is the main lines of the code related to 
initialization:


tban-port = open(/dev/ttyU0, O_RDWR | O_NOCTTY | O_NONBLOCK);
...
saio.sa_handler = tban_signal_handler_IO;
result = sigemptyset(saio.sa_mask);
saio.sa_flags = 0;
result = sigaction(SIGIO, saio, NULL);
result = fcntl(tban-port, F_SETFL, FASYNC);
...
tcgetattr(tban-port, (tban-oldtio));
...
memcpy(newtio,tban-oldtio,sizeof(struct termios)); /*I added this 
line to avoid the error EINVAL when calling tcsetattr below. This is 
probably not enough to set all flags properly :S */

...

newtio.c_cflag = intToBaud(tban-baudrate)  /*baudrate is 19200*/
   | CRTSCTS
   | intToDataBits(tban-databits) /*databits is 8*/
   | intToStopBits(tban-stopBits) /*stopBits is 0*/
   | CLOCAL
   | CREAD;
 newtio.c_iflag = IGNPAR;
 newtio.c_oflag = 0;
 newtio.c_lflag = 0;
 newtio.c_cc[VMIN]  = 1;
 newtio.c_cc[VTIME] = 0;
...
result = tcsetattr(tban-port, TCSANOW, newtio);
/*SIGIO is generated (?)*/
...
result = write(tban-port, sndBuf, cmdLen); /*request device status*/
...
/*Initialize data availability flag to false*/
/*sleep 1 second*/
/*SIGIO is generated */
bytesread = read(tban-port, local_buf, sizeof(local_buf));
/*bytesread is -1, EINTR is generated*/

So does anybody know what could be wrong in this code?

Thanks a lot!
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boot-time daemon startup (was Re: Newbie question)

2008-11-19 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Gary Hartl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've been out of the bsd loop for a bit, i'm trying to setup nagios which is
 fine 

  

 There are a couple of settings that I either don't remember or never
 remembered and forgot that I never knew it.

  

 Ok so nagios is asking me for an rc.d path, which if i recall FBSD doesn't
 use it is a linux script path for starting services at different run levels.

Any reason you're not installing it from the port?  Someone has already
done the porting effort for you.

FreeBSD doesn't use runlevels in that sense, but it does have a fairly
involved rc.d facility.  Try man rc.d.

 So does FBSD emulate it for certain packages cause Nagios finds it at
 /usr/local/etc/rc.d but the only thing i have in it is webmin.sh which is
 for my webmin interface (although I must confess I'm not sure why it is
 there or what it is doing).  

Presumably you installed webmin from the ports system?

 I must also admit i feel rather retarded, since I used to know this stuff
 like the back of my hand, but it's been 6-7 years since i've been actively
 using FBSD but am looking to get back into it.

That's okay; things haven't stayed static in the FreeBSD world anyway. 

 Rc.d anyone? 

On FreeBSD?  Everyone, pretty much.

 My assumption is that FBSD is using inetd for starting services correct?

No. inetd isn't even started these days unless you override FreeBSD's
defaults on purpose.

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Newbie question

2008-11-18 Thread Gary Hartl
Hi all;

 

Quick newbie question.

 

I've been out of the bsd loop for a bit, i'm trying to setup nagios which is
fine 

 

There are a couple of settings that I either don't remember or never
remembered and forgot that I never knew it.

 

Ok so nagios is asking me for an rc.d path, which if i recall FBSD doesn't
use it is a linux script path for starting services at different run levels.

 

So does FBSD emulate it for certain packages cause Nagios finds it at
/usr/local/etc/rc.d but the only thing i have in it is webmin.sh which is
for my webmin interface (although I must confess I'm not sure why it is
there or what it is doing).  

 

I must also admit i feel rather retarded, since I used to know this stuff
like the back of my hand, but it's been 6-7 years since i've been actively
using FBSD but am looking to get back into it.

 

Rc.d anyone? 

 

My assumption is that FBSD is using inetd for starting services correct?

 

Thanks 

 

Gary 

 

 

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Re: Newbie question

2008-11-18 Thread matt donovan
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Gary Hartl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all;



 Quick newbie question.



 I've been out of the bsd loop for a bit, i'm trying to setup nagios which
 is
 fine



 There are a couple of settings that I either don't remember or never
 remembered and forgot that I never knew it.



 Ok so nagios is asking me for an rc.d path, which if i recall FBSD doesn't
 use it is a linux script path for starting services at different run
 levels.



 So does FBSD emulate it for certain packages cause Nagios finds it at
 /usr/local/etc/rc.d but the only thing i have in it is webmin.sh which is
 for my webmin interface (although I must confess I'm not sure why it is
 there or what it is doing).



 I must also admit i feel rather retarded, since I used to know this stuff
 like the back of my hand, but it's been 6-7 years since i've been actively
 using FBSD but am looking to get back into it.



 Rc.d anyone?



 My assumption is that FBSD is using inetd for starting services correct?



 Thanks



 Gary





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No FreeBSD uses rc.d it's where the rc.d actually came from. for ports  it's
/usr/local/etc/rc.d for system scripts it's /etc/rc.d
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Re: Newbie question about pkg_add

2008-10-29 Thread Canhua
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Steven Susbauer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ports-mgmt/portupgrade is a useful tool for easily getting packages and
 ports, it includes the tool portinstall which does what it says it does.
 By running portinstall -P pkgname, it will install a port and
 dependencies with packages if available, otherwise they are built from
 source.

 portsman and portmanager are some other frontend tools that can help
 with package administration, it's really up to your own tastes.

 -Steve

I tried portinstall, although dependecies are install with port sources still.
It take me a whole afternoon to portinstall math/py-neworkx, and it
still doesn't complete as yet.
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Re: Newbie question about pkg_add

2008-10-29 Thread Thiago R. Santos
On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 11:14 +0800, Canhua wrote:
 Hi, good day all. I am new to FreeBSD.
 I tried to pkg_add -r a package (py-networkx), which tell me that:
 Error: FTP Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/
 FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.0-release/Latest/py-networkx.tbz:
 File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)
 
 although I know that py-network does exist in /usr/ports.
 Actually I could go to /usr/ports/math/py-networkx and make install
 using ports means.
 
 Then I could learn from this that there are softwares that could be
 install from ports while not able to be added from package system?
 Am I right?

The package name of this port is 'py25-networkx'. You can use the
Freshports.org search to find the package names.

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Re: Newbie question about pkg_add

2008-10-29 Thread Canhua
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:18 PM, Thiago R. Santos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 11:14 +0800, Canhua wrote:
 Hi, good day all. I am new to FreeBSD.
 I tried to pkg_add -r a package (py-networkx), which tell me that:
 Error: FTP Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/
 FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.0-release/Latest/py-networkx.tbz:
 File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)

 although I know that py-network does exist in /usr/ports.
 Actually I could go to /usr/ports/math/py-networkx and make install
 using ports means.

 Then I could learn from this that there are softwares that could be
 install from ports while not able to be added from package system?
 Am I right?

 The package name of this port is 'py25-networkx'. You can use the
 Freshports.org search to find the package names.

Wonderful place~ thank you

However I could not pkg_add py25-networkx still, being told that
  pkg_add: unable to fetch
'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.0-release/Latest/py25-networkx.tbz'
by URL
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Re: Newbie question about pkg_add

2008-10-29 Thread Thiago R. Santos
On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 22:41 +0800, Canhua wrote:
 Wonderful place~ thank you
 
 However I could not pkg_add py25-networkx still, being told that
   pkg_add: unable to fetch
 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.0-release/Latest/py25-networkx.tbz'
 by URL

Oh, sorry. I didn't realize that you wanted a package built for
7.0-RELEASE. Indeed, there isn't a package of this port built for this
release, so you might want to get packages from the 'packages-7-stable'
directory[1][2]. This particular port seems to have been added to the
ports tree after the release of FreeBSD 7.0. Of course, you can build it
yourself from your ports tree.

[1]http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/packages-using.html
[2]ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/Latest/
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Re: Newbie question about pkg_add (Canhua)

2008-10-29 Thread Kayven Riese


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 Message: 2
 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:12:52 +0800
 From: Canhua [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Newbie question about pkg_add
 To: Steven Susbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Message-ID:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

 On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Steven Susbauer
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  ports-mgmt/portupgrade is a useful tool for easily getting packages and
  ports, it includes the tool portinstall which does what it says it does.
  By running portinstall -P pkgname, it will install a port and
  dependencies with packages if available, otherwise they are built from
  source.
 
  portsman and portmanager are some other frontend tools that can help
  with package administration, it's really up to your own tastes.
 
  -Steve

 I tried portinstall, although dependecies are install with port sources
 still.
 It take me a whole afternoon to portinstall math/py-neworkx, and it
 still doesn't complete as yet.


Go to sleep! it will be ready in the morning maybe! {:)

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Newbie question about pkg_add

2008-10-28 Thread Canhua
Hi, good day all. I am new to FreeBSD.
I tried to pkg_add -r a package (py-networkx), which tell me that:
Error: FTP Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/
FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.0-release/Latest/py-networkx.tbz:
File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)

although I know that py-network does exist in /usr/ports.
Actually I could go to /usr/ports/math/py-networkx and make install
using ports means.

Then I could learn from this that there are softwares that could be
install from ports while not able to be added from package system?
Am I right?
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Re: Newbie question about pkg_add

2008-10-28 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:14:34AM +0800, Canhua wrote:
 Hi, good day all. I am new to FreeBSD.
 I tried to pkg_add -r a package (py-networkx), which tell me that:
 Error: FTP Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/
 FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.0-release/Latest/py-networkx.tbz:
 File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)
 
 although I know that py-network does exist in /usr/ports.
 Actually I could go to /usr/ports/math/py-networkx and make install
 using ports means.
 
 Then I could learn from this that there are softwares that could be
 install from ports while not able to be added from package system?
 Am I right?

Correct -- not every port has a package.

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| Parodius Networking   http://www.parodius.com/ |
| UNIX Systems Administrator  Mountain View, CA, USA |
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Re: Newbie question about pkg_add

2008-10-28 Thread Steven Susbauer

Jeremy Chadwick wrote:

On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:14:34AM +0800, Canhua wrote:

Hi, good day all. I am new to FreeBSD.
I tried to pkg_add -r a package (py-networkx), which tell me that:
Error: FTP Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/
FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.0-release/Latest/py-networkx.tbz:
File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)

although I know that py-network does exist in /usr/ports.
Actually I could go to /usr/ports/math/py-networkx and make install
using ports means.

Then I could learn from this that there are softwares that could be
install from ports while not able to be added from package system?
Am I right?


Correct -- not every port has a package.


ports-mgmt/portupgrade is a useful tool for easily getting packages and
ports, it includes the tool portinstall which does what it says it does.
By running portinstall -P pkgname, it will install a port and
dependencies with packages if available, otherwise they are built from
source.

portsman and portmanager are some other frontend tools that can help
with package administration, it's really up to your own tastes.

-Steve


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i2c driver newbie question

2008-02-05 Thread Artem Kim
Can anybody help my to write i2c drivers for saa7146 ?

I do not good understand how to connect this device to existing  iicbus 
infrastructure.

I do:

static device_method_t saa7146_i2c_methods[] = {
/* device interface */
DEVMETHOD(device_probe, saa7146_i2c_probe),
DEVMETHOD(device_attach,saa7146_i2c_attach),
DEVMETHOD(device_detach,saa7146_i2c_detach),
 
/* iicbus interface */
DEVMETHOD(iicbus_callback,  iicbus_null_callback),
DEVMETHOD(iicbus_repeated_start, saa7146_i2c_repeated_start),
DEVMETHOD(iicbus_start, saa7146_i2c_start),
DEVMETHOD(iicbus_stop,  saa7146_i2c_stop),
DEVMETHOD(iicbus_write, saa7146_i2c_write),
DEVMETHOD(iicbus_read,  saa7146_i2c_read),
DEVMETHOD(iicbus_reset, saa7146_i2c_rst_card),
{ 0, 0 }
};


static int
saa7146_i2c_probe(device_t dev)
{
...
}

static int
saa7146_i2c_attach(device_t dev)
{

//... Allocation of some resources

//add child

if ((sc-i2c_dev = device_add_child(dev, iicbus, -1)) == NULL)
device_printf(dev, could not allocate iicbus instance\n);

bus_generic_attach(dev);

device_printf(dev, %s complite\n, __FUNCTION__);

return (0);
}


static int
saa7146_i2c_start (device_t dev, u_char slave, int timeout)
{
..
}

.

DRIVER_MODULE  (saa7146_i2c, pci, saa7146_i2c_driver, saa7146_i2c_devclass, 0, 
0);
MODULE_DEPEND  (saa7146_i2c, iicbus, SAA7146_I2C_MINVER, SAA7146_I2C_PREFVER, 
SAA7146_I2C_MAXVER);
MODULE_VERSION (saa7146_i2c, SAA7146_I2C_MODVER);

But this now work. Сhild-device do not use any resource and is no active, and 
calling any method of this device lead to panic.

What do I do wrong?

Thanks,
Artem
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Su newbie question

2007-05-28 Thread Ian Lord
Hi,

 

A real dumb question today : I’ve always been the only administrator of
servers I installed so I never searched too much on the topic…

 

A new employee has joined the team and he will need to administer the
servers (compile ports, etc)

 

Usually, I do a su when I need to do these tasks, so I wonder if everybody
needs to know that password or if he could have his own password to su ?

 

Thanks

 

~~

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Tél: (514) 776-MSDI  - (514) 776-6734

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http://www.msdi.ca

 

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Re: Su newbie question

2007-05-28 Thread Garrett Cooper

Ian Lord wrote:

Hi,

 


A real dumb question today : I’ve always been the only administrator of
servers I installed so I never searched too much on the topic…

 


A new employee has joined the team and he will need to administer the
servers (compile ports, etc)

 


Usually, I do a su when I need to do these tasks, so I wonder if everybody
needs to know that password or if he could have his own password to su ?

 


Thanks


sudo's a better idea.

-Garrett
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Re: Su newbie question

2007-05-28 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 12:58:51PM -0400, Ian Lord wrote:

 Hi,
 
 A real dumb question today : I’ve always been the only administrator of
 servers I installed so I never searched too much on the topic…
 
 A new employee has joined the team and he will need to administer the
 servers (compile ports, etc)
 
 Usually, I do a su when I need to do these tasks, so I wonder if everybody
 needs to know that password or if he could have his own password to su ?

It is possible for there to be more than one account that is root.
Just make it have UID 0 and GID 0.  Use vipw to do that.  It is common
to make an R id as root for a person.  - Say the regular id is joe
then you might make an Rjoe account with UID and GID of 0.

But that may not be the best way.   You really don't want to spread
root accounts around a lot.   One alternative might be setting up
sudo to allow the specific things that this other person needs to do.


jerry

 
 Thanks
 
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Re: Su newbie question

2007-05-28 Thread Olivier Nicole
 But that may not be the best way.   You really don't want to spread
 root accounts around a lot.   One alternative might be setting up
 sudo to allow the specific things that this other person needs to do.

sudo woul dbe the right way to do: you have fine choice on the various
priviledges you give to the various people; each sudo command is
logged so you can trace back in case of problem; you use your own
password to sudo so you are not tempted to give it away to another
user, even temporar.

Olivier
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Re: Newbie Question: Mail from from cron jobs...

2007-05-16 Thread Oliver Peter
On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 05:38:15PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote:
 On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 11:26:03PM +0200, Oliver Peter wrote:
 
  On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 12:26:36PM -0400, Ian Lord wrote:
...
   
   Where can I change the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?
 
 Look in the file /etc/mail/aliases
 
 You can alias root to go to your favorite address.
 Don't forget to run   newaliases(1)   after editing the file.
 
 Of course, doing this will mean that all mail to root will
 go to you.   

Hhm. I thought the problem was that you would like to change the From:
of those e-mails not the To: ?

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RE: Newbie Question: Mail from from cron jobs...

2007-05-16 Thread Ian Lord


-Original Message-
From: Oliver Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 mai 2007 03:18
To: Jerry McAllister
Cc: Oliver Peter; Ian Lord; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Newbie Question: Mail from from cron jobs...

On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 05:38:15PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote:
 On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 11:26:03PM +0200, Oliver Peter wrote:
 
  On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 12:26:36PM -0400, Ian Lord wrote:
...
   
   Where can I change the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?
 
 Look in the file /etc/mail/aliases
 
 You can alias root to go to your favorite address.
 Don't forget to run   newaliases(1)   after editing the file.
 
 Of course, doing this will mean that all mail to root will
 go to you.   

Hhm. I thought the problem was that you would like to change the From:
of those e-mails not the To: ?

-- 
Oliver PETER, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ# 113969174
Worker bees can leave. Even drones can fly away. The Queen is their slave.

~~~
Exactly... I receive the emails since I correctly configured my aliases to
redirect all mails externally...

The problem I have is with the from...

Someone told me to change the hostname in rc.conf, that won't work since I
have 4 machines:

Machine1.mydomain.com
Machine2.mydomain.com
Machine3.mydomain.com
Machine4.mydomain.com

I want the mail from to be 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] not [EMAIL PROTECTED]
...

Not too sure where to look into to fix this

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Re: Newbie Question: Mail from from cron jobs...

2007-05-16 Thread Schiz0

On 5/16/07, Ian Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



-Original Message-
From: Oliver Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 16 mai 2007 03:18
To: Jerry McAllister
Cc: Oliver Peter; Ian Lord; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Newbie Question: Mail from from cron jobs...

On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 05:38:15PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote:
 On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 11:26:03PM +0200, Oliver Peter wrote:

  On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 12:26:36PM -0400, Ian Lord wrote:
...
  
   Where can I change the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?

 Look in the file /etc/mail/aliases

 You can alias root to go to your favorite address.
 Don't forget to run   newaliases(1)   after editing the file.

 Of course, doing this will mean that all mail to root will
 go to you.

Hhm. I thought the problem was that you would like to change the From:
of those e-mails not the To: ?

--
Oliver PETER, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ# 113969174
Worker bees can leave. Even drones can fly away. The Queen is their slave.

~~~
Exactly... I receive the emails since I correctly configured my aliases to
redirect all mails externally...

The problem I have is with the from...

Someone told me to change the hostname in rc.conf, that won't work since I
have 4 machines:

Machine1.mydomain.com
Machine2.mydomain.com
Machine3.mydomain.com
Machine4.mydomain.com

I want the mail from to be
[EMAIL PROTECTED] not [EMAIL PROTECTED]
...

Not too sure where to look into to fix this

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Try checking /etc/rc.conf for your hostname var. Also, /etc/hosts
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Re: Newbie Question: Mail from from cron jobs...

2007-05-16 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2007-05-16 03:21, Ian Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 -Original Message-
 From: Oliver Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 16 mai 2007 03:18
 To: Jerry McAllister
 Cc: Oliver Peter; Ian Lord; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Newbie Question: Mail from from cron jobs...
 
  Look in the file /etc/mail/aliases
   
   You can alias root to go to your favorite address.
   Don't forget to run   newaliases(1)   after editing the file.
   
   Of course, doing this will mean that all mail to root will
   go to you.   
  
  Hhm. I thought the problem was that you would like to change the From:
  of those e-mails not the To: ?
 
 Exactly... I receive the emails since I correctly configured my aliases to
 redirect all mails externally...
 
 The problem I have is with the from...
 
 Someone told me to change the hostname in rc.conf, that won't work since I
 have 4 machines:
 
   Machine1.mydomain.com
   Machine2.mydomain.com
   Machine3.mydomain.com
   Machine4.mydomain.com
 
 I want the mail from to be 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] not [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You have to enable 'masquerading' and (optionally) `genericstable' for
this sort of email address rewriting to work.

Here's a commented/example sendmail.mc snippet for that:

dnl Address masquerading.
dnl
dnl Making sure that all email that passes through my desktop's
dnl Sendmail installation is masqueraded as coming from
dnl `kobe.laptop', even if its original address is something
dnl slightly different (i.e. `ftp.laptop' or `mail.laptop'), is ok
dnl here.  It ensures that address rewriting and translation through
dnl `genericstable' will also work for all `*.laptop' host names.
dnl
dnl To make sure that remote hosts don't get a MAIL FROM address
dnl from a hostname that doesn't resolve, envelope addresses are
dnl masqueraded here too, and then get rewritten by `genericstable'
dnl to real-world addresses.
dnl
MASQUERADE_AS(`kobe.laptop')
FEATURE(`masquerade_entire_domain')
FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope')

dnl Rewriting the envelope-from address of all outgoing messages
dnl through a `genericstable' lookup ensures that envelope-from
dnl addresses seen by relay hosts are real, i.e. have an address
dnl of [EMAIL PROTECTED]' instead of the default
dnl envelope-from of [EMAIL PROTECTED]' that Sendmail would use.
dnl
dnl This is required some times, to avoid getting bounces for
dnl messages from ISP mail relays that are misconfigured or are too
dnl strict about what can appear in a MAIL FROM command.
dnl
FEATURE(`genericstable', `hash -o /etc/mail/genericstable')
GENERICS_DOMAIN(`kobe.laptop')
FEATURE(`generics_entire_domain')

Here `kobe.laptop' is my laptop's hostname, and I have enabled address
rewriting for some local email addresses by:

% cat /etc/mail/genericstable
#
# Address rewriting of outgoing email messages.
#

[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
%

You will have to use a similar setup to change the envelope-from and
header-from address of the outgoing messages your mail server sends.

- Giorgos

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RE: Newbie Question: Mail from from cron jobs...

2007-05-16 Thread Ian Lord
Thanks a lot, it works perfectly.

I'm starting to think it was not that much of a newbie question since you
are the first one to give a working answer :)

Thanks again

-Original Message-
From: Giorgos Keramidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 mai 2007 12:22
To: Ian Lord
Cc: 'Oliver Peter'; 'Jerry McAllister'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Newbie Question: Mail from from cron jobs...

On 2007-05-16 03:21, Ian Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 -Original Message-
 From: Oliver Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 16 mai 2007 03:18
 To: Jerry McAllister
 Cc: Oliver Peter; Ian Lord; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Newbie Question: Mail from from cron jobs...
 
  Look in the file /etc/mail/aliases
   
   You can alias root to go to your favorite address.
   Don't forget to run   newaliases(1)   after editing the file.
   
   Of course, doing this will mean that all mail to root will
   go to you.   
  
  Hhm. I thought the problem was that you would like to change the From:
  of those e-mails not the To: ?
 
 Exactly... I receive the emails since I correctly configured my aliases to
 redirect all mails externally...
 
 The problem I have is with the from...
 
 Someone told me to change the hostname in rc.conf, that won't work since I
 have 4 machines:
 
   Machine1.mydomain.com
   Machine2.mydomain.com
   Machine3.mydomain.com
   Machine4.mydomain.com
 
 I want the mail from to be 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] not [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You have to enable 'masquerading' and (optionally) `genericstable' for
this sort of email address rewriting to work.

Here's a commented/example sendmail.mc snippet for that:

dnl Address masquerading.
dnl
dnl Making sure that all email that passes through my desktop's
dnl Sendmail installation is masqueraded as coming from
dnl `kobe.laptop', even if its original address is something
dnl slightly different (i.e. `ftp.laptop' or `mail.laptop'), is ok
dnl here.  It ensures that address rewriting and translation through
dnl `genericstable' will also work for all `*.laptop' host names.
dnl
dnl To make sure that remote hosts don't get a MAIL FROM address
dnl from a hostname that doesn't resolve, envelope addresses are
dnl masqueraded here too, and then get rewritten by `genericstable'
dnl to real-world addresses.
dnl
MASQUERADE_AS(`kobe.laptop')
FEATURE(`masquerade_entire_domain')
FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope')

dnl Rewriting the envelope-from address of all outgoing messages
dnl through a `genericstable' lookup ensures that envelope-from
dnl addresses seen by relay hosts are real, i.e. have an address
dnl of [EMAIL PROTECTED]' instead of the default
dnl envelope-from of [EMAIL PROTECTED]' that Sendmail would use.
dnl
dnl This is required some times, to avoid getting bounces for
dnl messages from ISP mail relays that are misconfigured or are too
dnl strict about what can appear in a MAIL FROM command.
dnl
FEATURE(`genericstable', `hash -o /etc/mail/genericstable')
GENERICS_DOMAIN(`kobe.laptop')
FEATURE(`generics_entire_domain')

Here `kobe.laptop' is my laptop's hostname, and I have enabled address
rewriting for some local email addresses by:

% cat /etc/mail/genericstable
#
# Address rewriting of outgoing email messages.
#

[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
%

You will have to use a similar setup to change the envelope-from and
header-from address of the outgoing messages your mail server sends.

- Giorgos

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Newbie Question: Mail from from cron jobs...

2007-05-15 Thread Ian Lord
Hi,

 

Everyday, cron is sending me status reports of jobs it ran.

 

In my /etc/mail/aliases I configured root: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it works
fine.

 

The problem, is that the mail is coming from

 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

We have a spamfirewall and it rejects the mail saying localhost.mydomain.com
is invalid.

 

Where can I change the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ?

 

Thanks a lot

 

 

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Re: Newbie Question: Mail from from cron jobs...

2007-05-15 Thread Oliver Peter
On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 12:26:36PM -0400, Ian Lord wrote:
  ...
 
 Where can I change the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?

Did you set up your hostname correctly in /etc/rc.conf ?
Furthermore you need to tell your MTA how your hostname is called.

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Re: Newbie Question: Mail from from cron jobs...

2007-05-15 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 11:26:03PM +0200, Oliver Peter wrote:

 On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 12:26:36PM -0400, Ian Lord wrote:
   ...
  
  Where can I change the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?

Look in the file /etc/mail/aliases

You can alias root to go to your favorite address.
Don't forget to run   newaliases(1)   after editing the file.

Of course, doing this will mean that all mail to root will
go to you.   

jerry

 
 Did you set up your hostname correctly in /etc/rc.conf ?
 Furthermore you need to tell your MTA how your hostname is called.
 
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Re: Newbie Question: Mail from from cron jobs...

2007-05-15 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Tue, 15 May 2007 12:26:36 -0400
Ian Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[]
 The problem, is that the mail is coming from
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 We have a spamfirewall and it rejects the mail saying localhost.mydomain.com
 is invalid.
 
 Where can I change the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?

Hi Ian,
set your hostname in /etc/rc.conf:

it probably wouldn't hurt either to have name resolution properly setup (either 
via DNS or hosts file)

B
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Unable to mount HDD - Newbie question

2007-05-14 Thread Oscar Chavarria

I lost environmental power temporarily a few days ago, and when it was back
(almost immediately), the machine restarted without any input from me.

I had mounted to /home a 30 GB usb 2.0 hdd.

I tried mounting again since I did not find it in df.

The prompt is always WARNING: /home was not properly dismounted.

The output from dmesg is:
da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0: HITACHI- DK23 etc
WARNING: /home was not properly dismounted.


Thanks in advance for any help to mount the disk again.


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Re: Unable to mount HDD - Newbie question

2007-05-14 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 09:12:00AM -0600, Oscar Chavarria wrote:

 I lost environmental power temporarily a few days ago, and when it was back
 (almost immediately), the machine restarted without any input from me.
 
 I had mounted to /home a 30 GB usb 2.0 hdd.
 
 I tried mounting again since I did not find it in df.
 
 The prompt is always WARNING: /home was not properly dismounted.
 
 The output from dmesg is:
 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
 da0: HITACHI- DK23 etc
 WARNING: /home was not properly dismounted.
 
 Thanks in advance for any help to mount the disk again.

Try running fsck on it.
  fsck  /dev/device_name
The device name would be whatever the partition name should be.

That should either fix it or give you some ideas of where
to go next.

jerry

 
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Re: Unable to mount HDD - Newbie question

2007-05-14 Thread Mikhail Goriachev
Oscar Chavarria wrote:
 I lost environmental power temporarily a few days ago, and when it was back
 (almost immediately), the machine restarted without any input from me.
 
 I had mounted to /home a 30 GB usb 2.0 hdd.
 
 I tried mounting again since I did not find it in df.
 
 The prompt is always WARNING: /home was not properly dismounted.
 
 The output from dmesg is:
 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
 da0: HITACHI- DK23 etc
 WARNING: /home was not properly dismounted.


You have to fsck(8) that disc. Try the following before remounting:


# fsck -f /dev/da0s1d


Replace da0s1d accordingly (if necessary).



Hopefully it helps.



Regards,
Mikhail.

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Re: Unable to mount HDD - Newbie question

2007-05-14 Thread Mikhail Goriachev
Oscar Chavarria wrote:
 fsck /dev/da0s1 /home
 fsck: could not determine filesystem type.
 
 Go figure. Might the hdd be damaged? I guess not since boot recognized
 it, right?


Please don't top-post and keep the conversation on the list.


It seems like you've tried to fsck only the slice (da0s1). You have to
fsck the partition itself:

# fsck /dev/da0s1d

The last letter should be the one you assigned when you labeled that drive.



Show us the output of:

# ls /dev/da0*


Regards,
Mikhail.

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Re: Unable to mount HDD - Newbie question

2007-05-14 Thread Oscar Chavarria

ls /dev/da0s1
/dev/da0s1

On 5/14/07, Mikhail Goriachev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Oscar Chavarria wrote:
 fsck /dev/da0s1 /home
 fsck: could not determine filesystem type.

 Go figure. Might the hdd be damaged? I guess not since boot recognized
 it, right?


Please don't top-post and keep the conversation on the list.


It seems like you've tried to fsck only the slice (da0s1). You have to
fsck the partition itself:

# fsck /dev/da0s1d

The last letter should be the one you assigned when you labeled that
drive.



Show us the output of:

# ls /dev/da0*


Regards,
Mikhail.

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Telephone: +61 (0)3 62252501
Mobile Phone: +61 (0)4 38255158
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Web: www.webanoide.org





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Re: Unable to mount HDD - Newbie question

2007-05-14 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 09:58:54AM -0600, Oscar Chavarria wrote:

 ls /dev/da0s1
 /dev/da0s1

Again, please do not top post.   It makes it very hard to have any 
idea what you are referring to. The entire context of the
conversation gets lost.

In this case, what do you mean?
You just did an ls of a file name and found that it responsed
with the file name.   That is normal.   So, what?

Try doing ls /dev/da0s*  and see what you get.

Secondly, nowdays, the devfs system only makes devices that are
in use and makes them on the fly.   I haven't dug around in that
since the change since it was changed from the old MAKEDEV system
so I may be wrong, but I would not be surprised if /dev/da0s1d was
not there until after things were fixed up.

So, try the fsck as Mikhail suggested  -- with the partition name.

jerry

 
 On 5/14/07, Mikhail Goriachev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Oscar Chavarria wrote:
  fsck /dev/da0s1 /home
  fsck: could not determine filesystem type.
 
  Go figure. Might the hdd be damaged? I guess not since boot recognized
  it, right?
 
 
 Please don't top-post and keep the conversation on the list.
 
 
 It seems like you've tried to fsck only the slice (da0s1). You have to
 fsck the partition itself:
 
 # fsck /dev/da0s1d
 
 The last letter should be the one you assigned when you labeled that
 drive.
 
 
 
 Show us the output of:
 
 # ls /dev/da0*
 
 
 Regards,
 Mikhail.
 
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Re: Unable to mount HDD - Newbie question

2007-05-14 Thread Mikhail Goriachev
Oscar Chavarria wrote:
 ls /dev/da0s1
 /dev/da0s1


Oscar, once again, don't top-post[1] please and show us the output of:

# ls /dev/da0*



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[1] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-post

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Re: Unable to mount HDD - Newbie question

2007-05-14 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Monday, May 14, 2007 12:05:47 -0400 Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:



On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 09:58:54AM -0600, Oscar Chavarria wrote:


ls /dev/da0s1
/dev/da0s1


Again, please do not top post.   It makes it very hard to have any
idea what you are referring to. The entire context of the
conversation gets lost.

In this case, what do you mean?
You just did an ls of a file name and found that it responsed
with the file name.   That is normal.   So, what?

Try doing ls /dev/da0s*  and see what you get.

Secondly, nowdays, the devfs system only makes devices that are
in use and makes them on the fly.   I haven't dug around in that
since the change since it was changed from the old MAKEDEV system
so I may be wrong, but I would not be surprised if /dev/da0s1d was
not there until after things were fixed up.

So, try the fsck as Mikhail suggested  -- with the partition name.



I'm wondering if he shouldn't try umount /home first.


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The University of Texas at Dallas
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Re: Unable to mount HDD - Newbie question

2007-05-14 Thread Oscar Chavarria

If you will excuse me for now. I'm trying to solve the top-post problem.

I lost environmental power temporarily a few days ago, and when it was back
(almost immediately), the machine restarted without any input from me.

I had mounted to /home a 30 GB usb 2.0 hdd.

I tried mounting again since I did not find it in df.

The prompt is always WARNING: /home was not properly dismounted.

The output from dmesg is:
da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0: HITACHI- DK23 etc
WARNING: /home was not properly dismounted.

Thank you Paul, tried umount but the result was the same.

Tried this:
ls /dev/da0*
/dev/da0s  dev/da0s1
dev/da0s1c   dev/da0s1d

Thanks in advance for any help to mount the disk again.

On 5/14/07, Paul Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


--On Monday, May 14, 2007 12:05:47 -0400 Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED]

wrote:

 On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 09:58:54AM -0600, Oscar Chavarria wrote:

 ls /dev/da0s1
 /dev/da0s1

 Again, please do not top post.   It makes it very hard to have any
 idea what you are referring to. The entire context of the
 conversation gets lost.

 In this case, what do you mean?
 You just did an ls of a file name and found that it responsed
 with the file name.   That is normal.   So, what?

 Try doing ls /dev/da0s*  and see what you get.

 Secondly, nowdays, the devfs system only makes devices that are
 in use and makes them on the fly.   I haven't dug around in that
 since the change since it was changed from the old MAKEDEV system
 so I may be wrong, but I would not be surprised if /dev/da0s1d was
 not there until after things were fixed up.

 So, try the fsck as Mikhail suggested  -- with the partition name.


I'm wondering if he shouldn't try umount /home first.


Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Senior Information Security Analyst
The University of Texas at Dallas
http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/





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Re: Unable to mount HDD - Newbie question

2007-05-14 Thread Mikhail Goriachev
Oscar Chavarria wrote:
 If you will excuse me for now. I'm trying to solve the top-post problem.
 
 I lost environmental power temporarily a few days ago, and when it was
 back (almost immediately), the machine restarted without any input from me.
 
 I had mounted to /home a 30 GB usb 2.0 hdd.
 
 I tried mounting again since I did not find it in df.
 
 The prompt is always WARNING: /home was not properly dismounted.
 
 The output from dmesg is:
 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
 da0: HITACHI- DK23 etc
 WARNING: /home was not properly dismounted.
 
 Thank you Paul, tried umount but the result was the same.
 
 Tried this:
 ls /dev/da0*
 /dev/da0s 
 dev/da0s1  
 dev/da0s1c   dev/da0s1d


This is it. Your partition is /dev/da0s1d. Just try:


fsck -f /dev/da0s1d


... and then mount it.


Regards,
Mikhail.

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Re: Unable to mount HDD - Newbie question

2007-05-14 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 11:33:16AM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote:

 --On Monday, May 14, 2007 12:05:47 -0400 Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
 On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 09:58:54AM -0600, Oscar Chavarria wrote:
 
 ls /dev/da0s1
 /dev/da0s1
 
 Again, please do not top post.   It makes it very hard to have any
 idea what you are referring to. The entire context of the
 conversation gets lost.
 
 In this case, what do you mean?
 You just did an ls of a file name and found that it responsed
 with the file name.   That is normal.   So, what?
 
 Try doing ls /dev/da0s*  and see what you get.
 
 Secondly, nowdays, the devfs system only makes devices that are
 in use and makes them on the fly.   I haven't dug around in that
 since the change since it was changed from the old MAKEDEV system
 so I may be wrong, but I would not be surprised if /dev/da0s1d was
 not there until after things were fixed up.
 
 So, try the fsck as Mikhail suggested  -- with the partition name.
 
 
 I'm wondering if he shouldn't try umount /home first.

If there is something mounted there, yes.
Does  df  show anything mounted at /home?

If so, then the umount will be helpful.

But, I think the correct fsck may be the needed thing to try.

jerry

 
 
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newbie question: gdk2/gtkpixbuff install fails

2006-11-01 Thread Oliver Iberien
I'm trying to repair the damage after some portupgrading. The linux emulation 
is all messed up. linux-realplayer won't run because it wants to reinstall 
gtk-pixbuff, which is already in there but now conflicts with gdk2, which in 
turn seems to have a broken port:

/usr/bin/gtk-query-immodules-2.0-32: error while loading shared libraries: 
libXfixes.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
*** Error code 127

Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/linux-gtk2.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/linux-gtk2.
** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade1616.0 
make reinstall
egrep: /var/db/pkg/linux-gtk2-2.4.14_3/+CONTENTS: No such file or directory

I can't make any sense out of this one. I can't find anything in the list 
archives. Any clues?

Thanks,

Oliver
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Re: Newbie Question - looking for suggestions of small ports to install on stand-alone system without internet connection

2006-10-07 Thread John Hoover

there's always the shells,

bash for example




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Re: Newbie Question - looking for suggestions of small ports to install on stand-alone system without internet connection

2006-10-07 Thread Tyop?

On 10/6/06, John Hoover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

there's always the shells,

bash for example


asciiquarium is a good start.

*A Must*

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Re: Newbie Question - looking for suggestions of small ports to install on stand-alone system without internet connection

2006-10-07 Thread Jim Stapleton

On 10/6/06, ograbme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I would like a few recommendations for small ports to try to install
on my stand-alone machine.

The stand-alone machine does not have connection to the internet;
however, I do have a set of four (4)CD from the FreeBSD Mall and two
(2) of the CD's have 'ports' on them.  I would like to select one, two
or three ports to install on this machine ... to go through the steps
and experience of the ports process using the cdroms, so ... in
essence I'm looking for suggestions of ports of a small nature (if
there is such a thing).



I'm not sure how familiar you are with Unis operating systems or the
various tools available for all of it's incarnations, so, I'm listing
these with info as if you were completely new to it. If you are not, I
do not mean any insult or offense, I just don't know your level of
experience, so I'm going for something relatively low that would give
you a wide range of sights and sounds in the desktop *nix world. If
you aren't /that/ new, just look at my list, and pick and choose your
favorites.

Ideally, you would want to install ports that you could make use of
more than ports that are small. Even the larges ports rarely cause me
issues.

For small starts:
bash - already suggested, very good shell
nano - light weight and useful text editor
pico - like nano, but made before or after, can't remember which
vim - again, already suggested, good text editor, though not to my
taste. It is lightweight and fast, though not to the extent of
pico/nano.
sudoku - I prefer pencil and paper because you can make notes, but it's fun
naim - a console IM program

intermediate projects:
emacs - another popular editor, the largest (in size, not popularity
- don't know what is the most popular) of the bunch, but I know people
who get a lot of work done only starting one program *ever*, this is
that program. It uses a large amount of resources for just a text
editor, but you can do a lot more with it, and on a modern machine,
that large amount is still relatively neglegable.
xorg - an X (graphics) server, which will be extremely useful if you
want more than a console command prompt.
gaim - a multi-im client. quite useful, it could actually be in
small projects, but you need X installed before hand.
gnome - this is between intermediate and larger projects, a good and
popular desktop/session manager, again, not to my taste, for as much
smaller as it is, it runs slower than KDE on my systems. Nonetheless,
a lot of people like it, and you should give it a try.
* - Just about anything in the games directory


Big projects
KDE - like gnome, but more friendly to the people who like gui
configuration, less friendly to those who like text configuration. I
find it faster, but that could be because I have a lot of memory on
all my machines - it's definetly larger. Might be the whole space for
speed tradeoff that you can sometimes do, I don't know. Regardless, be
prepared for a challange, you may not (read: probably won't) be able
to get the full KDE running due to some apps not compiling. Read the
updating file, and you may have to try kde-lite.
openoffice.org-2.0 - a nice office suit, be prepared for a
challange! Now, you may need a few java packages that won't be on the
CDs for this - which you'll have to download elsewhere and put on
either a CD or a flash drive.



Have fun,
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Newbie Question - looking for suggestions of small ports to install on stand-alone system without internet connection

2006-10-06 Thread ograbme

I would like a few recommendations for small ports to try to install
on my stand-alone machine.

The stand-alone machine does not have connection to the internet;
however, I do have a set of four (4)CD from the FreeBSD Mall and two
(2) of the CD's have 'ports' on them.  I would like to select one, two
or three ports to install on this machine ... to go through the steps
and experience of the ports process using the cdroms, so ... in
essence I'm looking for suggestions of ports of a small nature (if
there is such a thing).

Thanks in advance.



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Re: Newbie Question - looking for suggestions of small ports to install on stand-alone system without internet connection

2006-10-06 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 12:14:29PM -0400, ograbme wrote:

 
 I would like a few recommendations for small ports to try to install
 on my stand-alone machine.
 
 The stand-alone machine does not have connection to the internet;
 however, I do have a set of four (4)CD from the FreeBSD Mall and two
 (2) of the CD's have 'ports' on them.  I would like to select one, two
 or three ports to install on this machine ... to go through the steps
 and experience of the ports process using the cdroms, so ... in
 essence I'm looking for suggestions of ports of a small nature (if
 there is such a thing).

Geez,  what do you want to play with?   Pick anything.
Maybe a couple of simple games would be a good example or maybe
a text editor such as vim.   But, your lack of network connection
makes coming up with suggestions more difficult.

It is no problem if everything is on the CD set.  The problem is that 
so many things have dependancies that may want to go out to the network 
to get something else to build.  I always just have it pull in things 
over the net, so am not sure how much you can get away with for a 
just CD install.  So, it is hard to think of one without trying it 
to make sure everything it needs is on the CDs.

Some simple game such as xmahjongg or dontspace (a Freecell game) might 
work OK and not call in to much else.   A text editor such as vim may 
be OK.  They all require X, but that should be on the CDs.   

jerry

 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 
 
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Newbie Question - what does the ...-p6 mean?

2006-09-14 Thread ograbme

Hello All.

Thursday, September 14, 2006, 4:24:43 AM, RJ45 wrote in regards to his
message titled Memory problem:

snip

R I am running FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p6 build with buildworld.

snip

What does the -p6 nomenclature represent in the above statement?
I've noticed some messages have contained various -pX's.  I recently
just installed FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p0 (according to -uname command)
from a FreeBSD Mall 4-CD set, dated May 2006.  Does this -p number
represent an updated ?Version? containing new patches or ...?

Thanks in advance.



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Re: Newbie Question - what does the ...-p6 mean?

2006-09-14 Thread Bill Moran
In response to ograbme [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 
 Hello All.
 
 Thursday, September 14, 2006, 4:24:43 AM, RJ45 wrote in regards to his
 message titled Memory problem:
 
 snip
 
 R I am running FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p6 build with buildworld.
 
 snip
 
 What does the -p6 nomenclature represent in the above statement?
 I've noticed some messages have contained various -pX's.  I recently
 just installed FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p0 (according to -uname command)
 from a FreeBSD Mall 4-CD set, dated May 2006.  Does this -p number
 represent an updated ?Version? containing new patches or ...?

The 'p' is for patch level.
See any of the security advisories, for example:
http://security.freebsd.org/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-06:20.bind.asc

Patch releases are only made when there are security flaws found or
major stability problems fixed.

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Newbie question - vidcontrol (?) and video mode at startup

2006-09-04 Thread Oliver Iberien
Hi,

With my new widescreen monitor, the console starts up with text bleeding off 
the edge of the display. What is the best console video mode for a console on 
a 1680x1050 display, and how do I get it to start up with it?

Thanks,

Oliver
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Newbie question: Is this something I should send to buglist?

2006-07-30 Thread Oliver Iberien
After running portsnap this morning:

bsd# pkg_version -v  /home/oliver/version.txt
Makefile, line 54: Could not 
find /usr/ports/print/cups-lpr/../../print/cups/Makefile.common
make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue
pkg_version: Failed to get PKGNAME from /usr/ports/print/cups-lpr/Makefile!

I take it that this means that there is something missing from this part of 
this port? I looked at 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-broken.html
and tried querying the data base (and was confused by the options), and 
searched the mailing list for the string cups-lpr. Nothing -- I think.

Anyhow, I'm happy to do my bit and post this somewhere but don't want to start 
sending badly formatted or unnecessary bug reports around. Any advice?

Oliver
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Re: Newbie question: Is this something I should send to buglist?

2006-07-30 Thread Nicolas Blais
On Sunday 30 July 2006 13:09, Oliver Iberien wrote:
 After running portsnap this morning:

 bsd# pkg_version -v  /home/oliver/version.txt
 Makefile, line 54: Could not
 find /usr/ports/print/cups-lpr/../../print/cups/Makefile.common
 make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue
 pkg_version: Failed to get PKGNAME from /usr/ports/print/cups-lpr/Makefile!

 I take it that this means that there is something missing from this part of
 this port? I looked at
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-broken.html
 and tried querying the data base (and was confused by the options), and
 searched the mailing list for the string cups-lpr. Nothing -- I think.

 Anyhow, I'm happy to do my bit and post this somewhere but don't want to
 start sending badly formatted or unnecessary bug reports around. Any
 advice?

 Oliver

This message is normal. cups-lpr is a port that no longer exists since the 
update to 1.2.0 as it has been merged with cups-base. When you update to 
cups-base 1.2.0_2, you won't get that message. 

Whether I recommend you update to 1.2.0 is another thing though :)


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Re: Newbie question - cannot add new disk

2006-04-22 Thread Oliver Iberien
Thanks for your interest in this.

A large part of the problem was in fact a bad cable.

I went back and forth between the command line and sysinstall. They seem not 
to do the same things. It did seem to me that the disklabel in sysinstall and 
the disklabel command-line tool did not necessarily produce labels that were 
mutually intelligible. It looks also as if when writing with disklabel in 
sysinstall, one of the newly created slices has to be highlighted, something 
not made clear in the Handbook. I ended up making partitions instead of 
slices, as disklabel did not like what the sysinstall-disklabel produced. 
Also, the fdisk tool in sysinstall did not always wipe and create new 
partition entries -- it sometimes just appended new ones, although that is 
not what it displayed. I needed dd to actually wipe the table and start anew.

This seemed to continue despite the new cable. However, I am not exactly a 
reliable observer, being, as stated, very new to BSD. 

Oliver


On Monday 17 April 2006 09:14, Alex de Kruijff wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 16, 2006 at 01:40:09PM -0700, Oliver Iberien wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I have been trying to add a second IDE hard drive. I can't seem to get it
  mounted, or to get what I put into sysinstall and what comes out when I
  use the command line to agree.

 Are you using the command line interface or sysinstall to configure the
 disk? This is not clear to me. If you tried sysinstall did it give any
 errors about the geometry? What did you do at that point?
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Re: Newbie question - cannot add new disk

2006-04-20 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Sun, Apr 16, 2006 at 01:40:09PM -0700, Oliver Iberien wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have been trying to add a second IDE hard drive. I can't seem to get it 
 mounted, or to get what I put into sysinstall and what comes out when I use 
 the command line to agree.

Are you using the command line interface or sysinstall to configure the
disk? This is not clear to me. If you tried sysinstall did it give any
errors about the geometry? What did you do at that point?

-- 
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Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your reply.

Howto's based on my personal use, including information about 
setting up a firewall and creating traffic graphs with MRTG
http://alex.kruijff.org/FreeBSD/

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Re: Newbie question -- which files to back up?

2006-04-18 Thread Derek Ragona
The short answer is to backup the files you want to save.  As a general 
rule, I suggest backing up:


/etc
/usr/local/etc
/usr/local/www

The last one assumes you have some website(s).

If you are also worried about email, if you are using the standard 
sendmail, also backup:


/var/mail

I would suggest you create separate compressed tar volumes for your 
backups, then you can restore them individually if you need to.


-Derek


At 02:53 AM 4/16/2006, Oliver Iberien wrote:

I'm running FreeBSD 6.0 on a home machine and backing up to a DVD Burner,
probably using kdar, the dar archiver that comes with KDE.

My question is : which system files to back up, along with my personal stuff?
I'm used to using linux distributions that do your system backups for you.
The capacity of the DVDs sets a practical limit on what I can reasonably back
up, so I need to pick and choose, basically to make recovery easier should
everything go south. Thanks!

Oliver
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Re: Newbie question -- which files to back up?

2006-04-18 Thread Eric Schuele

Oliver Iberien wrote:
I'm running FreeBSD 6.0 on a home machine and backing up to a DVD Burner, 
probably using kdar, the dar archiver that comes with KDE. 

My question is : which system files to back up, along with my personal stuff? 
I'm used to using linux distributions that do your system backups for you. 
The capacity of the DVDs sets a practical limit on what I can reasonably back 
up, so I need to pick and choose, basically to make recovery easier should 
everything go south. Thanks!


In addition to the:

/etc
/usr/local/etc
/home
/var/db

that others posted, I find the following useful too:

/usr/src/sys/i386/conf  - kernel configs
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm  - I customize xdm on occasion
/boot/device.hints
/boot/loader.conf

HTH


Oliver
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Re: Newbie question - using sysinstall Upgrade an existing system - easy?

2006-04-17 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Oliver Iberien [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 What actually happens when you use Upgrade an existing system in
 sysinstall?  Do you end up with the X-server, etc., all functioning
 as before, or is there a lot of cleanup to do afterwards?

X doesn't get automatically updated by that path; just the base
system.  So your old X setup should work fine; it will be untouched.
Of course, upgrades are *always* a good reason to have an *extra* set
of backups.

 (In my case, this would be from 6.0 to 6.1, whenever the release version of 
 6.1 comes out. I am getting DMA errors in trying to install a second drive, 
 and posts from this list give the impression that changing versions may make 
 a difference.)

It's possible.  Not likely, though; among the several more-probable
fixes, the Most Likely would be a new IDE cable.
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Newbie question -- which files to back up?

2006-04-16 Thread Oliver Iberien
I'm running FreeBSD 6.0 on a home machine and backing up to a DVD Burner, 
probably using kdar, the dar archiver that comes with KDE. 

My question is : which system files to back up, along with my personal stuff? 
I'm used to using linux distributions that do your system backups for you. 
The capacity of the DVDs sets a practical limit on what I can reasonably back 
up, so I need to pick and choose, basically to make recovery easier should 
everything go south. Thanks!

Oliver
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Re: Newbie question -- which files to back up?

2006-04-16 Thread Andy Reitz
Hi Oliver,

At a minimum, you will probably want to back up the following directories:

/etc
/usr/local/etc
/home

That will get all of the configuration files for FreeBSD and the software thar 
you installed from ports. The last directory will det all of your user's data. 
Some other applications might put data in other places, however, so you might 
want to research the applications that you are running to make sure you don't 
miss any important data.

-Andy.
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Re: Newbie question -- which files to back up?

2006-04-16 Thread Glenn Dawson

At 09:58 PM 2/22/2006, Andy Reitz wrote:

Hi Oliver,

At a minimum, you will probably want to back up the following directories:

/etc
/usr/local/etc
/home

That will get all of the configuration files for FreeBSD and the 
software thar you installed from ports.


Actually, no.  If you want to backup the software installed from 
ports you will typically need /usr/local.


The contents of /var/db would also be desirable so that you know 
which ports are installed on the machine among other things.


-Glenn

 The last directory will det all of your user's data. Some other 
applications might put data in other places, however, so you might 
want to research the applications that you are running to make sure 
you don't miss any important data.


-Andy.
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Re: Newbie question -- which files to back up?

2006-04-16 Thread Oliver Iberien
On Sunday 16 April 2006 09:00, Glenn Dawson wrote:
 At 09:58 PM 2/22/2006, Andy Reitz wrote:
 Hi Oliver,
 
 At a minimum, you will probably want to back up the following directories:
 
  /etc
  /usr/local/etc
  /home
 
 That will get all of the configuration files for FreeBSD and the
 software thar you installed from ports.

 Actually, no.  If you want to backup the software installed from
 ports you will typically need /usr/local.

 The contents of /var/db would also be desirable so that you know
 which ports are installed on the machine among other things.

 -Glenn

   The last directory will det all of your user's data. Some other
  applications might put data in other places, however, so you might
  want to research the applications that you are running to make sure
  you don't miss any important data.
 
 -Andy.

Thanks for all this information. Can /usr/local and /var/db just be copied 
directly back in after recovery, or (if it's more complicated that that) 
would there be a tutorial on this somewhere?

Oliver
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Re: Newbie question -- which files to back up?

2006-04-16 Thread Glenn Dawson

At 09:08 AM 4/16/2006, Oliver Iberien wrote:

On Sunday 16 April 2006 09:00, Glenn Dawson wrote:
 At 09:58 PM 2/22/2006, Andy Reitz wrote:
 Hi Oliver,
 
 At a minimum, you will probably want to back up the following directories:
 
  /etc
  /usr/local/etc
  /home
 
 That will get all of the configuration files for FreeBSD and the
 software thar you installed from ports.

 Actually, no.  If you want to backup the software installed from
 ports you will typically need /usr/local.

 The contents of /var/db would also be desirable so that you know
 which ports are installed on the machine among other things.

 -Glenn

   The last directory will det all of your user's data. Some other
  applications might put data in other places, however, so you might
  want to research the applications that you are running to make sure
  you don't miss any important data.
 
 -Andy.

Thanks for all this information. Can /usr/local and /var/db just be copied
directly back in after recovery, or (if it's more complicated that that)
would there be a tutorial on this somewhere?


Generally speaking, /usr/local is empty after a clean install, so 
simply replacing its contents should be ok.  Though keep in mind that 
some ports put things outside /usr/local so they may not work until 
other things are restored.


/var/db/pkg is the dir you want for restoring the database of 
installed ports/packages.  The other things in /var/db you will 
probably want to put back as needed instead of all at once.


-Glenn



Oliver
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Newbie question - using sysinstall Upgrade an existing system - easy?

2006-04-16 Thread Oliver Iberien
What actually happens when you use Upgrade an existing system in sysinstall? 
Do you end up with the X-server, etc., all functioning as before, or is there 
a lot of cleanup to do afterwards? 

(In my case, this would be from 6.0 to 6.1, whenever the release version of 
6.1 comes out. I am getting DMA errors in trying to install a second drive, 
and posts from this list give the impression that changing versions may make 
a difference.)

Oliver 
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Newbie question - cannot add new disk

2006-04-16 Thread Oliver Iberien
Hi,

I have been trying to add a second IDE hard drive. I can't seem to get it 
mounted, or to get what I put into sysinstall and what comes out when I use 
the command line to agree.

I can use sysinstall and then run newfs:
bsd# newfs /dev/ad1s1c
/dev/ad1s1c: 39205.5MB (80292804 sectors) block size 16384, fragment size 2048
using 214 cylinder groups of 183.77MB, 11761 blks, 23552 inodes.
super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at:
 160, 376512, 752864, 1129216, 1505568, 1881920, 2258272, 2634624, 3010976,
[...]
 78281376, 78657728, 79034080, 79410432, 79786784, 80163136

So it looks as if there is a slice there using the whole 40G disk, called 
ad1s1c. But:

bsd# disklabel ad1
disklabel: /dev/ad1 read: Input/output error

And with the following line in /etc/fstab

/dev/ad1s1c /disk2  ufs rw  1   1

bsd# mount -u /dev/ad1s1c /disk2
mount: /dev/ad1s1c on /disk2: specified device does not match mounted device

Using the command line utilities:

bsd# disklabel -Brw ad1 auto
bsd# disklabel -e ad1s1
disklabel: /dev/ad1s1: No such file or directory
bsd# disklabel -e ad1c
disklabel: /dev/ad1c read: Input/output error
bsd# newfs /dev/ad1s1c
newfs: /dev/ad1s1c: could not find special device
bsd# fdisk -BI ad1
*** Working on device /dev/ad1 ***
fdisk: Geom not found

And so I go round and round, as at that point I have to use sysinstall again. 
I tried this with two disks, both of which were good under linux. The 180G 
Seagate spat out DMA errors at startup, and I got nowhere with it. This one 
is a 40G Maxtor.

I suppose I could change out the cable (I have none handy otherwise I would 
have) although I can't see why a cable that worked for linux would not work 
now. Master/slave are set correctly. I could not mount linux partitions, 
either, despite the recompile -- don't know if that's related. I'd be 
grateful for any ideas. 

Oliver
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Re: newbie question on upgrading GCC

2006-04-11 Thread Chuck Swiger

Jim Stapleton wrote:
[ ... ]

When it comes to changing the default compiler a good rule of thumb is
that if you need to ask how to do it, then you should not do it.


That seems to be a general *nix world rule of thumb for just about everything...


The UNIX world is willing to give you a loaded gun, but we try not to 
instruct people on how to shoot their own feet without at least giving them 
a warning that doing so will hurt.  :-)


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newbie question on upgrading GCC

2006-04-10 Thread Jim Stapleton
I did a make install clean in the lang/gcc40/ directory to get a
newer version of GCC, and it seems happy, so the next thing I did was
I replaced my /usr/bin/gcc, /usr/bin/g++, etc. binaries with hard
links to the /usr/local/bin/gcc-freebsd-4.0,
/usr/local/bin/g++-freebsd-4.0, etc. binaries.

Now when I try to make things, I get a lot of errors and most compilation fails.

I backed up the original binaries (gcc - gcc-original), and things
seem to be fixed, and compiles work. What should I do?

Also, the ports install does not make a cc-freebsd-4.0 binary, so
I'm leary of replacing it with a hard link to the gcc-freebsd-4.0
biary, although when I run cc --version, it tells me that it is gcc
3.4.x, which is the default gcc install.


Thanks,
-Jim
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Re: newbie question on upgrading GCC

2006-04-10 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 10:43:51AM -0400, Jim Stapleton wrote:
 I did a make install clean in the lang/gcc40/ directory to get a
 newer version of GCC, and it seems happy, so the next thing I did was
 I replaced my /usr/bin/gcc, /usr/bin/g++, etc. binaries with hard
 links to the /usr/local/bin/gcc-freebsd-4.0,
 /usr/local/bin/g++-freebsd-4.0, etc. binaries.

That sounds like a bad idea.

 
 Now when I try to make things, I get a lot of errors and most compilation 
 fails.

Yes, a bad idea indeed.  Do not try to change the base compiler unless you
really know what you are doing.

 
 I backed up the original binaries (gcc - gcc-original), and things
 seem to be fixed, and compiles work. What should I do?

You should leave the standard compiler alone.  If you wish to use the
newer compiler invoke it as gcc40 (IIRC), but don't try use it to rebuild
FreeBSD itself.


 
 Also, the ports install does not make a cc-freebsd-4.0 binary, so
 I'm leary of replacing it with a hard link to the gcc-freebsd-4.0
 biary, although when I run cc --version, it tells me that it is gcc
 3.4.x, which is the default gcc install.



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Re: newbie question on upgrading GCC

2006-04-10 Thread Jim Stapleton
how do I setup make.conf to automatically use the new compiler?

Is there any way to set this new compiler as the default (such as
building the OS), without causing issues? Or would that be just a
royal pain in the posterior that is not worth the effort?

On 4/10/06, Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 10:43:51AM -0400, Jim Stapleton wrote:
  I did a make install clean in the lang/gcc40/ directory to get a
  newer version of GCC, and it seems happy, so the next thing I did was
  I replaced my /usr/bin/gcc, /usr/bin/g++, etc. binaries with hard
  links to the /usr/local/bin/gcc-freebsd-4.0,
  /usr/local/bin/g++-freebsd-4.0, etc. binaries.

 That sounds like a bad idea.

 
  Now when I try to make things, I get a lot of errors and most compilation 
  fails.

 Yes, a bad idea indeed.  Do not try to change the base compiler unless you
 really know what you are doing.

 
  I backed up the original binaries (gcc - gcc-original), and things
  seem to be fixed, and compiles work. What should I do?

 You should leave the standard compiler alone.  If you wish to use the
 newer compiler invoke it as gcc40 (IIRC), but don't try use it to rebuild
 FreeBSD itself.


 
  Also, the ports install does not make a cc-freebsd-4.0 binary, so
  I'm leary of replacing it with a hard link to the gcc-freebsd-4.0
  biary, although when I run cc --version, it tells me that it is gcc
  3.4.x, which is the default gcc install.



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Re: newbie question on upgrading GCC

2006-04-10 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 11:01:21AM -0400, Jim Stapleton wrote:
 how do I setup make.conf to automatically use the new compiler?

Don't.  But if you insist on doing that you could try putting

CC=/usr/local/bin/gcc40
CXX=/usr/local/bin/g++40

into /etc/make.conf.  Just be aware that it will probably not work very
well.


 
 Is there any way to set this new compiler as the default (such as
 building the OS), without causing issues?

Not without causing issues, no.

 Or would that be just a
 royal pain in the posterior that is not worth the effort?

That does sound like a fairly accurate description.


When it comes to changing the default compiler a good rule of thumb is
that if you need to ask how to do it, then you should not do it.


 
 On 4/10/06, Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 10:43:51AM -0400, Jim Stapleton wrote:
   I did a make install clean in the lang/gcc40/ directory to get a
   newer version of GCC, and it seems happy, so the next thing I did was
   I replaced my /usr/bin/gcc, /usr/bin/g++, etc. binaries with hard
   links to the /usr/local/bin/gcc-freebsd-4.0,
   /usr/local/bin/g++-freebsd-4.0, etc. binaries.
 
  That sounds like a bad idea.
 
  
   Now when I try to make things, I get a lot of errors and most compilation 
   fails.
 
  Yes, a bad idea indeed.  Do not try to change the base compiler unless you
  really know what you are doing.
 
  
   I backed up the original binaries (gcc - gcc-original), and things
   seem to be fixed, and compiles work. What should I do?
 
  You should leave the standard compiler alone.  If you wish to use the
  newer compiler invoke it as gcc40 (IIRC), but don't try use it to rebuild
  FreeBSD itself.
 
 
  
   Also, the ports install does not make a cc-freebsd-4.0 binary, so
   I'm leary of replacing it with a hard link to the gcc-freebsd-4.0
   biary, although when I run cc --version, it tells me that it is gcc
   3.4.x, which is the default gcc install.
 
 
 
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Re: newbie question on upgrading GCC

2006-04-10 Thread Jim Stapleton

 When it comes to changing the default compiler a good rule of thumb is
 that if you need to ask how to do it, then you should not do it.



That seems to be a general *nix world rule of thumb for just about everything...
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Re: newbie question on upgrading GCC

2006-04-10 Thread RW
On Monday 10 April 2006 16:01, Jim Stapleton wrote:
 how do I setup make.conf to automatically use the new compiler?

 Is there any way to set this new compiler as the default (such as
 building the OS), without causing issues? Or would that be just a
 royal pain in the posterior that is not worth the effort?

IIRC make buildworld  doesn't even use the default compiler directly. It just 
uses it to bootstrap the build of its own new compiler.
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BTX Halted - not such a newbie question

2005-12-06 Thread Joy

I'm having problems installing FreeBSD V6.0 on an HP (ne Compaq) desktop PC.
The install appears to go fine from CD, or via FTP, but on rebooting the
installed boot loader halts with a register dump and BTX halted error
message. So no rotating curser, no kernel messages just the dump and error
message.

Now I've been using FreeBSD for years, so immediately think Disc Geometry
problems - enable / disable DMA etc. Nope, I've tried the various BIOS
settings and manually setting the geometry in fdisk. I've also tried changing
the boot manager for a dedicated MBR.

Here are the BIOS settings I have tried:

  Transfer Mode: Max UDMA, Ultra DMA 0, Enhanced DMA, Max PIO, PIO 0
  Translation Mode: Bit Shift, LBA Assisted and User Defined [1023/240/63]

Here is the spec of my machine:

Spec: Compaq Workstation xw6000
Proc: P4 2.8GHz
RAM:  1024MB
HD:   80.0GB, Maxtor 6Y080L0 (Primary IDE master)
Most onboard devices (USB, Serial, etc) have been disabled.

Any help appreciated 

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Re: Firefox problem...another newbie question

2005-11-12 Thread Kan Cai
It seems that there is some problem with your glib. You might need to
upgrade it. Note that portupgrade isn't working for glib/gtk 2.8.x upgrade.
You need to use gnome_upgrade212.sh instead, check /usr/ports/UPDATING for
details.

cheers,
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On 10/11/05, makisupa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Been messing with FreeBSD for a week and a half or so now. Getting my
 laptop all setup to play DVDs and something wierd happened to Firefox
 (probably unrelated I know). As an aside, xine works well but i'm
 not a fan of the gui, gxine core dumps a few seconds after going
 fullscreen or toggling a couple of times. They use the same engine
 right? Wierd...both installed from recently upgraded ports tree on a
 gnome 2.12 6.0-beta5 system. The firefox problem...

 I can replicate this as at will and epiphany works fine. If i click
 a .tbz file or something that calls another app and i get a core dump.
 Any ideas what's going on here?

 $ firefox

 (Gecko:1985): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion
 `hash_table != NU LL' failed

 (Gecko:1985): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the configuration
 system w as not initialized. Did you call _gnome_vfs_configuration_init?

 (Gecko:1985): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion
 `hash_table != NU LL' failed

 (Gecko:1985): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the configuration
 system w as not initialized. Did you call _gnome_vfs_configuration_init?

 (Gecko:1985): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion
 `hash_table != NU LL' failed

 (Gecko:1985): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the configuration
 system w as not initialized. Did you call _gnome_vfs_configuration_init?

 (Gecko:1985): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion
 `hash_table != NU LL' failed

 (Gecko:1985): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the configuration
 system w as not initialized. Did you call _gnome_vfs_configuration_init?

 (Gecko:1985): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion
 `hash_table != NU LL' failed

 (Gecko:1985): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the configuration
 system w as not initialized. Did you call _gnome_vfs_configuration_init?

 (Gecko:1985): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion
 `hash_table != NU LL' failed

 (Gecko:1985): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the configuration
 system w as not initialized. Did you call _gnome_vfs_configuration_init?

 (Gecko:1985): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion
 `hash_table != NU LL' failed

 (Gecko:1985): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the configuration
 system w as not initialized. Did you call _gnome_vfs_configuration_init?

 (Gecko:1985): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion
 `hash_table != NU LL' failed

 (Gecko:1985): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the configuration
 system w as not initialized. Did you call _gnome_vfs_configuration_init?

 (Gecko:1985): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion
 `hash_table != NU LL' failed

 (Gecko:1985): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the configuration
 system w as not initialized. Did you call _gnome_vfs_configuration_init?

 (Gecko:1985): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion
 `hash_table != NU LL' failed

 (Gecko:1985): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the configuration
 system w as not initialized. Did you call _gnome_vfs_configuration_init?

 (Gecko:1985): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion
 `hash_table != NU LL' failed

 (Gecko:1985): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the configuration
 system w as not initialized. Did you call _gnome_vfs_configuration_init?

 (Gecko:1985): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion
 `hash_table != NU LL' failed

 (Gecko:1985): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the configuration
 system w as not initialized. Did you call _gnome_vfs_configuration_init?

 (Gecko:1985): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion
 `hash_table != NU LL' failed

 (Gecko:1985): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the configuration
 system w as not initialized. Did you call _gnome_vfs_configuration_init?

 (Gecko:1985): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion
 `hash_table != NU LL' failed

 (Gecko:1985): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the configuration
 system w as not initialized. Did you call _gnome_vfs_configuration_init?

 (Gecko:1985): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion
 `hash_table != NU LL' failed

 (Gecko:1985): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the configuration
 system w as not initialized. Did you call _gnome_vfs_configuration_init?

 (Gecko:1985): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion
 `hash_table != NU LL' failed

 (Gecko:1985): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the configuration
 system w as not initialized. Did you call _gnome_vfs_configuration_init?

 (Gecko:1985): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion
 `hash_table != NU LL' failed

 (Gecko:1985): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the 

Firefox problem...another newbie question

2005-10-11 Thread makisupa
Been messing with FreeBSD for a week and a half or so now.  Getting my
laptop all setup to play DVDs and something wierd happened to Firefox
(probably unrelated I know).  As an aside, xine works well but i'm
not a fan of the gui, gxine core dumps a few seconds after going
fullscreen or toggling a couple of times.  They use the same engine
right?  Wierd...both installed from recently upgraded ports tree on a
gnome 2.12 6.0-beta5 system.  The firefox problem...

I can replicate this as at will and epiphany works fine.  If i click
a .tbz file or something that calls another app and i get a core dump.
Any ideas what's going on here?

$ firefox

(Gecko:1985): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion
`hash_table != NU LL' failed

(Gecko:1985): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the configuration
system w as not initialized. Did you call _gnome_vfs_configuration_init?

(Gecko:1985): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion
`hash_table != NU LL' failed

(Gecko:1985): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the configuration
system w as not initialized. Did you call _gnome_vfs_configuration_init?

(Gecko:1985): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion
`hash_table != NU LL' failed

(Gecko:1985): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the configuration
system w as not initialized. Did you call _gnome_vfs_configuration_init?

(Gecko:1985): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion
`hash_table != NU LL' failed

(Gecko:1985): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the configuration
system w as not initialized. Did you call _gnome_vfs_configuration_init?

(Gecko:1985): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion
`hash_table != NU LL' failed

(Gecko:1985): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the configuration
system w as not initialized. Did you call _gnome_vfs_configuration_init?

(Gecko:1985): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion
`hash_table != NU LL' failed

(Gecko:1985): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the configuration
system w as not initialized. Did you call _gnome_vfs_configuration_init?

(Gecko:1985): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion
`hash_table != NU LL' failed

(Gecko:1985): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the configuration
system w as not initialized. Did you call _gnome_vfs_configuration_init?

(Gecko:1985): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion
`hash_table != NU LL' failed

(Gecko:1985): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the configuration
system w as not initialized. Did you call _gnome_vfs_configuration_init?

(Gecko:1985): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion
`hash_table != NU LL' failed

(Gecko:1985): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the configuration
system w as not initialized. Did you call _gnome_vfs_configuration_init?

(Gecko:1985): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion
`hash_table != NU LL' failed

(Gecko:1985): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the configuration
system w as not initialized. Did you call _gnome_vfs_configuration_init?

(Gecko:1985): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion
`hash_table != NU LL' failed

(Gecko:1985): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the configuration
system w as not initialized. Did you call _gnome_vfs_configuration_init?

(Gecko:1985): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion
`hash_table != NU LL' failed

(Gecko:1985): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the configuration
system w as not initialized. Did you call _gnome_vfs_configuration_init?

(Gecko:1985): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion
`hash_table != NU LL' failed

(Gecko:1985): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the configuration
system w as not initialized. Did you call _gnome_vfs_configuration_init?

(Gecko:1985): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion
`hash_table != NU LL' failed

(Gecko:1985): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the configuration
system w as not initialized. Did you call _gnome_vfs_configuration_init?

(Gecko:1985): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion
`hash_table != NU LL' failed

(Gecko:1985): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the configuration
system w as not initialized. Did you call _gnome_vfs_configuration_init?

(Gecko:1985): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion
`hash_table != NU LL' failed

(Gecko:1985): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the configuration
system w as not initialized. Did you call _gnome_vfs_configuration_init?

(Gecko:1985): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion
`hash_table != NU LL' failed

(Gecko:1985): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the configuration
system w as not initialized. Did you call _gnome_vfs_configuration_init?

(Gecko:1985): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion
`hash_table != NU LL' failed

(Gecko:1985): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Internal error: the configuration
system w as not initialized. Did you call _gnome_vfs_configuration_init?

(Gecko:1985): GLib-CRITICAL **: 

Help! Stupid Newbie Question

2005-09-24 Thread Joe Graham
Hello,
 I've been playing off and on with FreeBSD for a bit of time now, but I
would still consider myself a relative newbie. I've read enough and played
enough to know how to install applications from ports (e.g., I was able to
successfully install Moria just by reading the pages I could find). My
latest endeavor has been to attempt to install MySQL. I've recently
installed FreeBSD 5.9 on my system, and was attempting to use the ports
directory to install it. After going to /usr/ports/databases/mysql40-server
(mysql50-server failed, couldn't find the file anywhere to download
apparantly) and running make then make install, I've come across a hurdle.
The hurdle is rather embarrassing, but is sort of simple (and likely obvious
to te guys on this list). How do I get the server software to run? I know I
can't use mysql the client until the server software is running, but I dunno
the proper steps to take. I know, it's a fairly stupid question, but I seem
incompetent at finding the right instructions to get it going. If someone
could please point me in the right direction to look around so I know what
steps I need to do next, I would be greatly appreciative. I'm able to find
methods to perform certain operations, but naturally it needs to have the
server software actually running :D Many many thanks to anyone who can help
me out.
--Joe G.
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Re: Help! Stupid Newbie Question

2005-09-24 Thread Glenn Dawson

At 01:16 PM 9/24/2005, Joe Graham wrote:

Hello,
 I've been playing off and on with FreeBSD for a bit of time now, but I
would still consider myself a relative newbie. I've read enough and played
enough to know how to install applications from ports (e.g., I was able to
successfully install Moria just by reading the pages I could find). My
latest endeavor has been to attempt to install MySQL. I've recently
installed FreeBSD 5.9 on my system,


5.9?  Maybe you meant 4.9?  If so, you'd be better off with a newer version.


 and was attempting to use the ports
directory to install it. After going to /usr/ports/databases/mysql40-server
(mysql50-server failed, couldn't find the file anywhere to download
apparantly) and running make then make install, I've come across a hurdle.
The hurdle is rather embarrassing, but is sort of simple (and likely obvious
to te guys on this list). How do I get the server software to run? I know I
can't use mysql the client until the server software is running, but I dunno
the proper steps to take.


If the port you installed was relatively recent, you just need 
mysql_enable=YES in your rc.conf.


If it's an older port, look for a sample startup script in 
/usr/local/etc/rc.d.  You just need to rename it so that it ends in 
.sh and it will start at boot time.


-Glenn


 I know, it's a fairly stupid question, but I seem
incompetent at finding the right instructions to get it going. If someone
could please point me in the right direction to look around so I know what
steps I need to do next, I would be greatly appreciative. I'm able to find
methods to perform certain operations, but naturally it needs to have the
server software actually running :D Many many thanks to anyone who can help
me out.
--Joe G.
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Re[2]: Help! Stupid Newbie Question

2005-09-24 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 13:30:43 -0700, Glenn Dawson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Help! Stupid Newbie Question
Wrote these words of wisdom:

 
 If the port you installed was relatively recent, you just need 
 mysql_enable=YES in your rc.conf.
 
 If it's an older port, look for a sample startup script in 
 /usr/local/etc/rc.d.  You just need to rename it so that it ends in 
 .sh and it will start at boot time.
 
 -Glenn


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On 9/24/2005 4:57:41 PM, Gerard Seibert Replied:

When I first started using FreeBSD, I had the same problems. It would be
nice if the author of the man pages included the start up information as
well as the location of any config files as the first entry in the page.
I have even installed programs where the startup scripts were commented
out, for example: cups.sh-sample, and I went looking for why the program
was not starting before it dawned on me what the problem was. I realize
that someone with years of experience would not have had that sort of
problem, but for a new user, it is all to common. We are always getting
requests for how do I start foo, or what have you on this list.

That is just my 2¢ worth of unasked for opinion.


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Re: Help! Stupid Newbie Question

2005-09-24 Thread Joe Graham
On 9/24/05, Glenn Dawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At 01:16 PM 9/24/2005, Joe Graham wrote:
 Hello,
  I've been playing off and on with FreeBSD for a bit of time now, but I
 would still consider myself a relative newbie. I've read enough and
 played
 enough to know how to install applications from ports (e.g., I was able
 to
 successfully install Moria just by reading the pages I could find). My
 latest endeavor has been to attempt to install MySQL. I've recently
 installed FreeBSD 5.9 on my system,

 5.9? Maybe you meant 4.9? If so, you'd be better off with a newer version.

 Erp, I meant 5.4. I had recently been under 4.9 and moved up to 5.4.
Apparantly my brain broke for a few minutes. :) Thanks!

 and was attempting to use the ports
 directory to install it. After going to
 /usr/ports/databases/mysql40-server
 (mysql50-server failed, couldn't find the file anywhere to download
 apparantly) and running make then make install, I've come across a
 hurdle.
 The hurdle is rather embarrassing, but is sort of simple (and likely
 obvious
 to te guys on this list). How do I get the server software to run? I know
 I
 can't use mysql the client until the server software is running, but I
 dunno
 the proper steps to take.

 If the port you installed was relatively recent, you just need
 mysql_enable=YES in your rc.conf.

 If it's an older port, look for a sample startup script in
 /usr/local/etc/rc.d. You just need to rename it so that it ends in
 .sh and it will start at boot time.

 -Glenn

 Thanks Glenn, I'll try that right now.
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Re[2]: Help! Stupid Newbie Question

2005-09-24 Thread Glenn Dawson

At 02:05 PM 9/24/2005, Gerard Seibert wrote:

On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 13:30:43 -0700, Glenn Dawson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Help! Stupid Newbie Question
Wrote these words of wisdom:


 If the port you installed was relatively recent, you just need
 mysql_enable=YES in your rc.conf.

 If it's an older port, look for a sample startup script in
 /usr/local/etc/rc.d.  You just need to rename it so that it ends in
 .sh and it will start at boot time.

 -Glenn


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On 9/24/2005 4:57:41 PM, Gerard Seibert Replied:

When I first started using FreeBSD, I had the same problems. It would be
nice if the author of the man pages included the start up information as
well as the location of any config files as the first entry in the page.
I have even installed programs where the startup scripts were commented
out, for example: cups.sh-sample, and I went looking for why the program
was not starting before it dawned on me what the problem was.


I think the primary reason for not having a port 
automatically start after it's installed would be 
security.  There are a number of things that 
might present a security risk if they are enabled 
with their default configurations, or no 
configuration at all.  I don't believe I've ever 
seen a port install itself so that it starts at boot time.


Section 4.6 in the handbook has this:

Ports that should start at boot (such as Internet 
servers) will usually install a sample script in 
/usr/local/etc/rc.d. You should review this 
script for correctness and edit or rename it if 
needed. See 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/configtuning-starting-services.htmlStarting 
Services for more information.



 I realize
that someone with years of experience would not have had that sort of
problem, but for a new user, it is all to common. We are always getting
requests for how do I start foo, or what have you on this list.


There are a great many people that post to the 
list with questions that are readily available in 
the handbook, or some other part of the web 
site.  I don't think that's likely to change any time soon.


-Glenn



That is just my 2¢ worth of unasked for opinion.


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Re[2]: Help! Stupid Newbie Question

2005-09-24 Thread Robert Huff

Glenn Dawson writes:

  I don't believe I've ever 
  seen a port install itself so that it starts at boot time.

As I understand it, up until recently (advent of rcNG ??)
that was the default, i.e. ports routinely installed foo.sh in
/usr/local/etc/rc.d instaed of foo.sh.sample.


Robert Huff


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