Re: IBM 120 G IDE -- problems
My thanks to all the people who replied to my problem with the 120 GB drive. The fix -- or rather, workaround -- is to disable DMA on IDE by setting hw.ata.ata_dma=0 in /boot/loader.conf . This means that any I/O on that disk sucks the processor right up into the drive. This is OK, but barely, because I intend to use this drive infrequently but for large amounts of data. I suspect that the problem is in the support for the chipset. The manual for the board isn't very clear about the base IDE chipset; it lists SiS 963 MuTIOL Media I/O IT8705F I/O Control Sil3112A SATA IT8212F RAID The third and fourth IDE channels are controlled via the RAID system; even when it is configured to make the drives directly visible, FreeBSD can't see them. The board is a GigaByte GA-SINXP1394 (P4 Titan Series). Once again, it's running `well enough'; I have now to put the partitions on it; thanks to all who wrote. Mark Terribile __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: RE: IBM 120 G IDE -- problems
[ top posting corrected ] > > I have that problem with an ASUS P4S533 motherboard. I add > > these sysctl > > values to /boot/loader.conf: > > > > hw.ata.ata_dma="0" > > hw.ata.atapi_dma="0" > OH MAN.. You don't know how many hours you just saved me!!! It boots > up beautifully with 3 drives. > > Thank you > > For future reference, do you know why this happens? Because some chip set / drive combinations don't work in DMA mode (don't know why). You can list the modes your drives are currently using with the following command (as root): atacontrol mode 0 (1st channel) atacontrol mode 1 (2nd -"- ) For performance reasons you can try whether disabling DMA mode for your ATAPI devices is enough, i.e. your /boot/loader.conf should look like this: hw.ata.atapi_dma="0" Regards, Simon signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: IBM 120 G IDE -- problems
On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 08:50:48PM -0700, Jonas wrote: > > OH MAN.. You don't know how many hours you just saved me!!! It boots > up beautifully with 3 drives. > > Thank you > > For future reference, do you know why this happens? No. It's on my list of things to follow up, but there are so many other things that I have to get through first. One day... 8-) -- John Birrell ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: IBM 120 G IDE -- problems
On Sunday 07 September 2003 10:29 pm, Andrew L. Gould wrote: > On Sunday 07 September 2003 10:16 pm, Mark Terribile wrote: > > > > A drive problem seems unlikely; this was a new disk > > sealed in silver mylar and I expect these drives > > to be rock-solid. (Should I doubt this?) > > Yes, you should doubt this. I've had new IBM and a Western Digital > drives die on me this year. If you can, test the drive in a > different computer and/or operating system. A HD, like any other device, is more likely to fail when its very new than at any other time. > For what it's worth, I have 120GB (Maxtor) hard drives in computers > running FreeBSD 4.8 and 5.1. FWIW the built-in Promise controller on my Asus A7V works well in 5.1-R with IBM/Hitachi 120G HD: atapci1: port 0x7800-0x783f,0x8000-0x8003,0x8400-0x8407,0x8800-0x8803,0x9000-0x9007 mem 0xdd80-0xdd81 irq 11 at device 17.0 on pci0 ata2: at 0x9000 on atapci1 ata3: at 0x8400 on atapci1 ad6: 117800MB [239340/16/63] at ata3-master UDMA100 -- David Kelly N4HHE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] = The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: IBM 120 G IDE -- problems
Jonas wrote: > I have the exact same problem with two brand new MB's from Asus. The > model is P4P800 and P4P800-VM and all the drives are brand new Seagate > IDE drives. I have removed the CD-ROM drive and the box boots up fine > with Primary and Secondary master but as soon as I add a 3rd drive the > boot process hangs on ata0 (or ata1) "Resetting devices". Changing > the drive to Cable-Select or putting the slave at the end of the cable > doesn't fix the problem either. > > I'm going to call Asus tech support tomorrow but any thoughts > suggestions are appreciated. My friend had similar problem on his M/B with Intel 865 chipset, which is P4P800 uses. Switching the CDROM and IDE drives around may solve the problem. Since I have no one, I cannot confirm. Try to update the BIOS with very caution because only vertain version may work properly. Here is another example on latest Intel 875 chipset-based M/B. It has very headache booting problem with adding devices. Intel released a number of BIOS to fix related problem, but ??? BIOS versions 05, 06, 08, 10 and 11 are hanging on various things during boot. 07 and 09 kindly work in general cases, but must have some other issues so making Intel keep to update the BIOS. BIOS version 12 is out, but it still hangs during boot, and we do not know why because two identical machines, one can boot, where the other cannot. Common hanging issues: CDROM may need to be the master instead of slave additional I/O card, such as certain video adapters, IDE or SCSI controllers, additional external disk drives may cause system hang. -Jin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: IBM 120 G IDE -- problems
OH MAN.. You don't know how many hours you just saved me!!! It boots up beautifully with 3 drives. Thank you For future reference, do you know why this happens? Jonas Fornander - System Administrator Netwood Communications,LLC - www.netwood.net Find out why we're better - 310-442-1530 > -Original Message- > From: John Birrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 8:36 PM > To: Jonas > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: IBM 120 G IDE -- problems > > > On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 08:27:18PM -0700, Jonas wrote: > > > > I have the exact same problem with two brand new MB's from Asus. The > > model is P4P800 and P4P800-VM and all the drives are brand > new Seagate > > IDE drives. I have removed the CD-ROM drive and the box > boots up fine > > with Primary and Secondary master but as soon as I add a > 3rd drive the > > boot process hangs on ata0 (or ata1) "Resetting > devices". Changing > > the drive to Cable-Select or putting the slave at the end > of the cable > > doesn't fix the problem either. > > I have that problem with an ASUS P4S533 motherboard. I add > these sysctl > values to /boot/loader.conf: > > hw.ata.ata_dma="0" > hw.ata.atapi_dma="0" > > You can also interrupt the boot loader and type: > > set hw.ata.ata_dma="0" > set hw.ata.atapi_dma="0" > boot > > -- > John Birrell > ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: IBM 120 G IDE -- problems
On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 08:27:18PM -0700, Jonas wrote: > > I have the exact same problem with two brand new MB's from Asus. The > model is P4P800 and P4P800-VM and all the drives are brand new Seagate > IDE drives. I have removed the CD-ROM drive and the box boots up fine > with Primary and Secondary master but as soon as I add a 3rd drive the > boot process hangs on ata0 (or ata1) "Resetting devices". Changing > the drive to Cable-Select or putting the slave at the end of the cable > doesn't fix the problem either. I have that problem with an ASUS P4S533 motherboard. I add these sysctl values to /boot/loader.conf: hw.ata.ata_dma="0" hw.ata.atapi_dma="0" You can also interrupt the boot loader and type: set hw.ata.ata_dma="0" set hw.ata.atapi_dma="0" boot -- John Birrell ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: IBM 120 G IDE -- problems
On Sunday 07 September 2003 10:16 pm, Mark Terribile wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to add a 120G IDE drive, and FreeBSD > hangs during bootstrap. > > My current storage configuration is > 3 SCSI drives on an Adaptec controller > 2 floppy drives (3+1/2 and 5+1/4 -- yes!) on >the controller on the mobo (a Gigabyte >GA-SINXP1394) > 1 Sony CD-ROM on the ATA 0 on the mobo, master > 1 Artec CD-RW on the ATA 1 on the mobo, master > > This configuration works fine. > > I tried to add the drive, an IBM (now Hitachi) > 120G Deskstar, as a slave on the ATA 0 adaptor. > The BIOS recognizes is, but during bootstrap > I get a message saying that ATA 0 has timed out > on some kind of tagged operation, followed by > a message indicating a reset and three dots, and > no newline. The bootstrap stops right here. > > I've tried making the new drive the master, with > and without the CD-ROM, running that cable off the > other IDE interface, and replacing the cable, all > with no change. I've even checked the voltages on > the board side of the power connector, and felt the > drive as it powers up (vibration suggests both > rotation and a few seeks). I've got an Antec 420W > power supply, so there should be enough juice. > > A drive problem seems unlikely; this was a new disk > sealed in silver mylar and I expect these drives > to be rock-solid. (Should I doubt this?) Yes, you should doubt this. I've had new IBM and a Western Digital drives die on me this year. If you can, test the drive in a different computer and/or operating system. For what it's worth, I have 120GB (Maxtor) hard drives in computers running FreeBSD 4.8 and 5.1. > > I'll be grateful for any help you can offer. I'm > not a subscriber to the hardware list (but I did > search it for likely articles), so please reply > on freebsd-questions, or reply to me at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] . > > Mark Terribile Best of luck, Andrew L. Gould ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: IBM 120 G IDE -- problems
I have the exact same problem with two brand new MB's from Asus. The model is P4P800 and P4P800-VM and all the drives are brand new Seagate IDE drives. I have removed the CD-ROM drive and the box boots up fine with Primary and Secondary master but as soon as I add a 3rd drive the boot process hangs on ata0 (or ata1) "Resetting devices". Changing the drive to Cable-Select or putting the slave at the end of the cable doesn't fix the problem either. I'm going to call Asus tech support tomorrow but any thoughts suggestions are appreciated. Jonas Fornander - System Administrator Netwood Communications,LLC - www.netwood.net Find out why we're better - 310-442-1530 > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Mark Terribile > Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 8:16 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: IBM 120 G IDE -- problems > > > > Hi, > > I'm trying to add a 120G IDE drive, and FreeBSD > hangs during bootstrap. > > My current storage configuration is > 3 SCSI drives on an Adaptec controller > 2 floppy drives (3+1/2 and 5+1/4 -- yes!) on >the controller on the mobo (a Gigabyte >GA-SINXP1394) > 1 Sony CD-ROM on the ATA 0 on the mobo, master > 1 Artec CD-RW on the ATA 1 on the mobo, master > > This configuration works fine. > > I tried to add the drive, an IBM (now Hitachi) > 120G Deskstar, as a slave on the ATA 0 adaptor. > The BIOS recognizes is, but during bootstrap > I get a message saying that ATA 0 has timed out > on some kind of tagged operation, followed by > a message indicating a reset and three dots, and > no newline. The bootstrap stops right here. > > I've tried making the new drive the master, with > and without the CD-ROM, running that cable off the > other IDE interface, and replacing the cable, all > with no change. I've even checked the voltages on > the board side of the power connector, and felt the > drive as it powers up (vibration suggests both > rotation and a few seeks). I've got an Antec 420W > power supply, so there should be enough juice. > > A drive problem seems unlikely; this was a new disk > sealed in silver mylar and I expect these drives > to be rock-solid. (Should I doubt this?) > > I'll be grateful for any help you can offer. I'm > not a subscriber to the hardware list (but I did > search it for likely articles), so please reply > on freebsd-questions, or reply to me at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] . > > Mark Terribile > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
