Gary Gatten ggat...@waddell.com, 2011-07-18 21:44 (+0200):
I've always been curious why Linux seemed to take off so fast when
other FOSS / non Winblow$ OS's were available for some time with not
much traction; OS/2, BeOS, *nix with X11, etc.
I'm not sure what you mean by fast here. It took a
Op 24-7-2011 2:00 schreef Jerry:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 15:58:07 -0600
Chad Perrin articulated:
You are clearly an asshole who has no interest in having a reasonable
discussion. Newer methods do not frighten me, you stupid asshole.
Thanks Chad. At one time I thought you were intelligent with
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 11:05:40AM -0400, Jerry wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 06:58:26 -0600 Chad Perrin articulated:
In fact, the NetworkManager set of network management tools has in
some ways outdone the stupidities of MS Windows network management.
Hey, this is stupid, but it's not
On 23/07/2011 22:58, Chad Perrin wrote:
Do you realize that MS Windows has nothing equivalent to rc.conf or
/etc/network/interfaces?
It does: it's in the registry.
HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces
contains a list of interfaces and their settings.
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 11:25:10PM +0100, Bruce Cran wrote:
On 23/07/2011 22:58, Chad Perrin wrote:
Do you realize that MS Windows has nothing equivalent to rc.conf or
/etc/network/interfaces?
It does: it's in the registry.
HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces
On 24/07/2011 00:25, Bruce Cran wrote:
On 23/07/2011 22:58, Chad Perrin wrote:
Do you realize that MS Windows has nothing equivalent to rc.conf or
/etc/network/interfaces?
It does: it's in the registry.
HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces
contains a list of
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 15:58:07 -0600
Chad Perrin articulated:
You are clearly an asshole who has no interest in having a reasonable
discussion. Newer methods do not frighten me, you stupid asshole.
Thanks Chad. At one time I thought you were intelligent with
conflicting views. However, the more
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 08:55:29 -0400, Jerry wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 21:21:31 -0600
Chad Perrin articulated:
This is where we find a dividing line between users who want different
things. Yes, you turn on your Win7 laptop (or wake it up) in a coffee
shop, and it connects automagically
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 10:56:42AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
Want it like this? :-) ---http://xkcd.com/416/
That's exactly what I don't want. That is (an exaggeration of) what
NetworkManager is trying to do and, predictably, it fails sometimes, just
as MS Windows' automated network
On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 06:58:26 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
I mean that its primary purpose is to try to guess what the
user wants based on the developers' mental model of what users want, then
tries to make it happen -- and, too often, the developers' mental model
of what users want does not match
On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 06:58:26 -0600
Chad Perrin articulated:
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 10:56:42AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
Want it like this? :-) ---http://xkcd.com/416/
That's exactly what I don't want. That is (an exaggeration of) what
NetworkManager is trying to do and,
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 08:55:29AM -0400, Jerry wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 21:21:31 -0600
Chad Perrin articulated:
This is where we find a dividing line between users who want different
things. Yes, you turn on your Win7 laptop (or wake it up) in a coffee
shop, and it connects
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:03:56PM -0600, Sam George wrote:
Having come to BSD from Linux less than a month ago, I find it
interesting that the very thing, which Mr. Pottering is encouraging in
Linux development, is what has lead me to search for other options
besides Linux. Of late
On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 14:29:41 -0600
Chad Perrin articulated:
If you turn off the automation that connects you to networks you do
not want, you turn off the advantage you suggest FreeBSD needs.
Maybe its a language thing; however, I am not comprehending what you
are trying got say.
You would,
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 01:39:02 +0200, Jerome Herman wrote:
On 19/07/2011 01:21, Gary Gatten wrote:
snip
This may get me flamed (probably will) but I'm wondering what
the relationship is between FreeBSD and PC-BSD? PERHAPS if
they were to somehow join forces, share development load, etc.
On 19/07/2011 08:11, Polytropon wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 01:39:02 +0200, Jerome Herman wrote:
On 19/07/2011 01:21, Gary Gatten wrote:
snip
This may get me flamed (probably will) but I'm wondering what
the relationship is between FreeBSD and PC-BSD? PERHAPS if
they were to somehow join
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:20:29 +0200, Jerome Herman wrote:
On 19/07/2011 08:11, Polytropon wrote:
Arguing... what is easier at manually locating software using
a web browser, manually downloading it and interactively
holding the installer's hand while installing software? :-)
Well, of course
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 21:21:31 -0600
Chad Perrin articulated:
This is where we find a dividing line between users who want different
things. Yes, you turn on your Win7 laptop (or wake it up) in a coffee
shop, and it connects automagically -- in fact, you probably don't
even realize it has
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 20:33:01 -0300
Mario Lobo articulated:
First of all, forgive me for top posting but I don't want to
disturb the debate between Jerry and Polytropon. In fact, I enjoyed
it so much that I saved it in separate folder. It is just plain good
reading, not only because of the
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 22:50:25 -0500 (CDT)
Robert Bonomi articulated:
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 20:01:20 -0400
From: Jerry je...@seibercom.net
Subject: Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 22:31:41 +0200
Polytropon articulated:
Your TV example
At 11:20 19/07/2011, Jerome Herman wrote:
A FreeBSD distro with LDAP, ACL and MAC management would be nice though.
You could create a port that brings all this functionality
in one rush. Remember that the ports collection is more than
just about installing software - it can be used to even
On 7/17/2011 05:10, Jerry wrote:
While I usually consider Slashdot nothing more than a bunch of
juveniles ranting against Microsoft; however, I did find this rather
interesting post this morning.
Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore
IMHO what has helped Linux is the existence of commercial
distributions with support - Red Hat, SUSE, etc. The only attempts to
do this for BSD have been undercapitalized and/or half-hearted.
But I find the general premise of the discussion to be - how to say
this politely? - stupid. Things
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 14:19:04 -0400
Michael Sierchio articulated:
IMHO what has helped Linux is the existence of commercial
distributions with support - Red Hat, SUSE, etc. The only attempts to
do this for BSD have been undercapitalized and/or half-hearted.
Yes, it is hard to sell a car sans
On Tuesday 19 July 2011 10:06:22 Jerry wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 20:33:01 -0300
Mario Lobo articulated:
First of all, forgive me for top posting but I don't want to
disturb the debate between Jerry and Polytropon. In fact, I enjoyed
it so much that I saved it in separate folder. It is
Joshua Isom jri...@gmail.com wrote:
On 7/17/2011 6:16 PM, Mario Lobo wrote:
On Sunday 17 July 2011 10:13:13 C. Bergstr??m wrote:
I hope gnome does [go Linux-only].. Maybe then more
people would forget about it and focus on making KDE better ;)
...
What about enlightenment?
For us
On 7/18/2011 8:05 AM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Joshua Isomjri...@gmail.com wrote:
On 7/17/2011 6:16 PM, Mario Lobo wrote:
On Sunday 17 July 2011 10:13:13 C. Bergstr??m wrote:
I hope gnome does [go Linux-only].. Maybe then more
people would forget about it and focus on making KDE better
Outback Dingo outbackdi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Adam Vande More
amvandem...@gmail.comwrote:
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Outback Dingo
outbackdi...@gmail.comwrote:
... Name one cloud provider providing FreeBSD 8x or 9X to run
as instances. I know
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 07:10:59AM -0400, Jerry wrote:
While I usually consider Slashdot nothing more than a bunch of
juveniles ranting against Microsoft; however, I did find this rather
interesting post this morning.
Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 11:16 PM, Outback Dingo outbackdi...@gmail.comwrote:
Im pretty sure they are only XEN based and not cloud based per se, as
there appears to be no elasticity on demand, Granted RootBSD is nice
but on demand expansion of memory, cpu and disk under ones control is more
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 01:51:19 -0500, Joshua Isom wrote:
On 7/18/2011 8:05 AM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Joshua Isomjri...@gmail.com wrote:
On 7/17/2011 6:16 PM, Mario Lobo wrote:
On Sunday 17 July 2011 10:13:13 C. Bergstr??m wrote:
I hope gnome does [go Linux-only].. Maybe then more
I moved from Linux (Debian GNU/Linux) to (Free|Open)BSD a few weeks ago and I
am really impressed by the *BSDs. They are working very well (the Just works
feeling I missed a long time), the port and package-system is very nice and
handy, it's stable and you have a really powerful (superior)
On 07/18/11 03:02 PM, Adam Vande More wrote:
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 11:16 PM, Outback Dingooutbackdi...@gmail.comwrote:
Im pretty sure they are only XEN based and not cloud based per se, as
there appears to be no elasticity on demand, Granted RootBSD is nice
but on demand expansion of
2011/7/18 C. Bergström cbergst...@pathscale.com
One of those links gives a 404 on the root domain
Works for me.
and the other on the pricing page
(http://www.reliacloud.com/**pricing/http://www.reliacloud.com/pricing/
)
Not sure where you got that link. Use the menu.
I'm not sure
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:05:41 +0200
Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
And furthermore, I've found some Linux users migrating
AWAY from Linux, using FreeBSD instead. How can this be
combined with Poettering's claim?
I'm the one...using Linux since '99 (SuSE, Gentoo,Arch) and moved to
PCBSD-9.0
Hey Mr(s) freebsd-questions show some good to me!
2011/07/18 03:49:59 -0500 Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com = To C.
Bergstr?m :
AVM We all wish a lot of things. One of mine would be that people shouldn't
AVM have strong opinions on subjects they know little to nothing about.
It's about me
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:47:24 +0700
C. Bergström articulated:
I wish people would spend as much time solving problems in *BSD as
they do trying to defend an irrelevant OS ;)
Personally, I wish they would spend more time in developing fully
functional wireless drivers as opposed to simply
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 07:30:00 -0400, Jerry wrote:
I suggested several years ago, and I will re-suggest that FreeBSD start
a program that would allow programmers to be paid to write code that
either the regular contributors do not want to write or are not capable
of writing. Other OS's are
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Jerry je...@seibercom.net wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:47:24 +0700
C. Bergström articulated:
I wish people would spend as much time solving problems in *BSD as
they do trying to defend an irrelevant OS ;)
Personally, I wish they would spend more time in
On 07/18/11 06:30 PM, Jerry wrote:
I suggested several years ago, and I will re-suggest that FreeBSD start
a program that would allow programmers to be paid to write code that
either the regular contributors do not want to write or are not capable
of writing.
Like a bounties page?
(If such a
Just a side note I am the managing partner in a software development
firm and they *ONLY* reason we have not released the majority of our
internal lib is because we are essentially giving something of huge
value (to us) up for nothing in return but if there was money involved
to compensate for the
On 17/07/2011 15:02, C. Bergström wrote:
On 07/17/11 07:43 PM, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:
Op 17-7-2011 14:17 schreef Subbsd:
community decreases. It is a pity that many developers of FreeBSD have
left in Apple, the small part works over {NET,OPEN,DRAGONFLY}.BSD but
as a whole it already
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 07:30:00AM -0400, Jerry wrote:
I suggested several years ago, and I will re-suggest that FreeBSD start
a program that would allow programmers to be paid to write code that
either the regular contributors do not want to write or are not capable
of writing. Other OS's
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 07:30:00AM -0400, Jerry wrote:
I suggested several years ago, and I will re-suggest that FreeBSD start
a program that would allow programmers to be paid to write code that
either the regular contributors do not want to write or are not capable
of writing. Other OS's
Em Seg, 2011-07-18 às 07:30 -0400, Jerry escreveu:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:47:24 +0700
C. Bergström articulated:
I wish people would spend as much time solving problems in *BSD as
they do trying to defend an irrelevant OS ;)
Personally, I wish they would spend more time in developing
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 07:01:29PM +0700, C. Bergstr??m wrote:
On 07/18/11 06:30 PM, Jerry wrote:
I suggested several years ago, and I will re-suggest that FreeBSD start
a program that would allow programmers to be paid to write code that
either the regular contributors do not want to write
Hey Mr(s) freebsd-questions show some good to me!
2011/07/18 07:50:41 -0400 Aryeh Friedman aryeh.fried...@gmail.com = To
FreeBSD :
AF version number every 18 months +/-. I have two new laptops ion front of
AF me that I cannot use FBSD on simply because they don't support the
AF wireless (N
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 13:49:03 +0200
Polytropon articulated:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 07:30:00 -0400, Jerry wrote:
I suggested several years ago, and I will re-suggest that FreeBSD
start a program that would allow programmers to be paid to write
code that either the regular contributors do not
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 01:49:03PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 07:30:00 -0400, Jerry wrote:
I suggested several years ago, and I will re-suggest that FreeBSD start
a program that would allow programmers to be paid to write code that
either the regular contributors do not
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 09:57:59 -0400, Jerry wrote:
There are so many fundamental problems with the standards concept.
For starters it limits or prevents basic product improvement or
development. It the wireless A protocol were to have been made a
standard then improvement on its deficiencies
Quoth per...@pluto.rain.com on Monday, 18 July 2011:
Joshua Isom jri...@gmail.com wrote:
On 7/17/2011 6:16 PM, Mario Lobo wrote:
On Sunday 17 July 2011 10:13:13 C. Bergstr??m wrote:
I hope gnome does [go Linux-only].. Maybe then more
people would forget about it and focus on making
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:51:55 +0100
Frank Shute articulated:
I like Jerry's proposal. The FreeBSD Foundation should organise their
donations page so that you can donate to various different areas of
development like TUG do:
https://www.tug.org/donate.html
It should be at least split into
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 11:10:30 -0400, Jerry wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:51:55 +0100
Frank Shute articulated:
I like Jerry's proposal. The FreeBSD Foundation should organise their
donations page so that you can donate to various different areas of
development like TUG do:
On 07/18/2011 06:50 AM, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
The issue your talking about is actually caused by a fundamental flaw
in *ALL* pure open source projects namely in return for the freedom to
look at the code and stuff we give up market forces.
Perhaps the benefits inherent in enriching the global
Using primarily FreeBSD, and in fact, still FreeBSD 4.11 (we are in the
process of upgrading to 8.x now), our systems moved well over 1.6
trillion dollars in business to business financial transactions last year.
I'd hardly call that irrelevant.
On 07/17/2011 04:10, Jerry wrote:
While I
Message: 1
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 14:00:49 +0200
From: Jerome Herman jher...@dichotomia.fr
Subject: Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
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Sent: Mon, July 18, 2011 9:05:47 AM
Subject: Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore
Joshua Isom jri...@gmail.com wrote
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BT Sent: Mon, July 18, 2011 9:05:47 AM
BT Subject: Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore
BT
BT Joshua Isom jri...@gmail.com wrote:
BT On 7/17/2011 6:16 PM, Mario Lobo wrote:
BT On Sunday 17 July 2011 10:13:13 C. Bergstr??m wrote:
BT I hope gnome does
snip
I've always been curious why Linux seemed to take off so fast when other FOSS
/ non Winblow$ OS's were available for some time with not much traction; OS/2,
BeOS, *nix with X11, etc.
Not just on the desktop, but servers as well. Supported versions of Linux
such as RHEL, Suse, etc. seem
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:58:08 +0200
Polytropon articulated:
Here the circle closes: Without STANDARDS, you wouldn't
be able to view the digital pictures you took with a
camera 10 years ago because the manufacturer decided
to use a proprietary image format without any documentation,
as you
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 14:44:15 -0500
Gary Gatten articulated:
snip
I've always been curious why Linux seemed to take off so fast when
other FOSS / non Winblow$ OS's were available for some time with not
much traction; OS/2, BeOS, *nix with X11, etc.
Not just on the desktop, but servers as
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:48:46 -0400, Jerry wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:58:08 +0200
Polytropon articulated:
Here the circle closes: Without STANDARDS, you wouldn't
be able to view the digital pictures you took with a
camera 10 years ago because the manufacturer decided
to use a
--On July 18, 2011 2:44:15 PM -0500 Gary Gatten ggat...@waddell.com wrote:
snip
I've always been curious why Linux seemed to take off so fast when
other FOSS / non Winblow$ OS's were available for some time with not much
traction; OS/2, BeOS, *nix with X11, etc.
Not just on the desktop, but
On 07/17/2011 04:10, Jerry wrote:
While I usually consider Slashdot nothing more than a bunch of
juveniles ranting against Microsoft; however, I did find this rather
interesting post this morning.
Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:22:45 -0400, Jerry wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 14:44:15 -0500
Gary Gatten articulated:
snip
I've always been curious why Linux seemed to take off so fast when
other FOSS / non Winblow$ OS's were available for some time with not
much traction; OS/2, BeOS, *nix
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:32:25 -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote:
In short, some people chase the newest shiniest thing. Others prefer to
stick with what works. Often, the newest shiniest folks, after they've
gained some wisdom, move to the other camp. So you could well see a
resurgence of BSD as
On 07/18/2011 01:32 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote:
--On July 18, 2011 2:44:15 PM -0500 Gary Gatten ggat...@waddell.com
wrote:
snip
I've always been curious why Linux seemed to take off so fast when
other FOSS / non Winblow$ OS's were available for some time with not
much
traction; OS/2, BeOS,
On 18/07/2011 22:22, Jerry wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 14:44:15 -0500
Gary Gatten articulated:
snip
I've always been curious why Linux seemed to take off so fast when
other FOSS / non Winblow$ OS's were available for some time with not
much traction; OS/2, BeOS, *nix with X11, etc.
Not just
Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk wrote:
We are pleased to announce a call for project proposals.
We will accept proposals until February 15th. Please
read Project Proposal Procedures to find out what
needs to be included in your proposal.
*end quote*
Is this not what you want?
This
snip
This may get me flamed (probably will) but I'm wondering what the relationship
is between FreeBSD and PC-BSD? PERHAPS if they were to somehow join forces,
share development load, etc. and unify the FreeBSD offerings under one roof;
ie: PC-BSD and SERVER-BSD.
I believe several flavors of
On 19/07/2011 01:21, Gary Gatten wrote:
snip
This may get me flamed (probably will) but I'm wondering what the relationship is between
FreeBSD and PC-BSD? PERHAPS if they were to somehow join forces, share development load,
etc. and unify the FreeBSD offerings under one roof; ie: PC-BSD and
-Original Message-
From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-
questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Robison, Dave
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 10:53 AM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore
Using primarily
Hi;
First of all, forgive me for top posting but I don't want to disturb the
debate between Jerry and Polytropon. In fact, I enjoyed it so much that I
saved it in separate folder. It is just plain good reading, not only because
of the issue at hand, but also because of the elegance and
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 22:31:41 +0200
Polytropon articulated:
Your TV example is very good. I've recently read a text
that predicts the future of CDs - a text from the late 80's.
When we consider what we are _currently_ using, the text
predicting no important future for CDs looks quite funny.
Hi;
First of all, forgive me for top posting but I don't want to disturb the
debate between Jerry and Polytropon. In fact, I enjoyed it so much that I
saved it in separate folder. It is just plain good reading, not only because
of the issue at hand, but also because of the elegance and
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 04:22:45PM -0400, Jerry wrote:
I think the explanation is rather simple, Give the user what he wants,
not what you think he wants. You are never going to satisfy every
conceivable user, so concentrate on the core users. Microsoft has done
that extremely well. On the
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 20:01:20 -0400
From: Jerry je...@seibercom.net
Subject: Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 22:31:41 +0200
Polytropon articulated:
Your TV example is very good. I've recently read a text
that predicts the future of CDs - a text
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 20:01:20 -0400, Jerry wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 22:31:41 +0200
Polytropon articulated:
Your TV example is very good. I've recently read a text
that predicts the future of CDs - a text from the late 80's.
When we consider what we are _currently_ using, the text
Hi,
On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 07:10:59 -0400
Jerry je...@seibercom.net wrote:
J Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore
J
J
http://bsd.slashdot.org/story/11/07/16/0020243/Lennart-Poettering-BSD-Isnt-Relevant-Anymore
J
J Interestingly enough, a great deal of it is true. It might be
J
On 17.07.2011 13:10, Jerry wrote:
While I usually consider Slashdot nothing more than a bunch of
juveniles ranting against Microsoft; however, I did find this rather
interesting post this morning.
Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore
Hi
All of us know that in many cases BSD do not concede technically
Linux. However is the fact. The quantity of the companies using
FreeBSD catastrophically decreases! In what a problem? As I see one of
popularization's problems - there is no information on innovations
(DTRACE, ccTCP, VIMAGE,
Op 17-7-2011 14:17 schreef Subbsd:
community decreases. It is a pity that many developers of FreeBSD have
left in Apple, the small part works over {NET,OPEN,DRAGONFLY}.BSD but
as a whole it already absolutely small small groups of people.
And do you feel this will be the end of FreeBSD?
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Jerry je...@seibercom.net wrote:
While I usually consider Slashdot nothing more than a bunch of
juveniles ranting against Microsoft; however, I did find this rather
interesting post this morning.
Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore
On 07/17/11 07:43 PM, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:
Op 17-7-2011 14:17 schreef Subbsd:
community decreases. It is a pity that many developers of FreeBSD have
left in Apple, the small part works over {NET,OPEN,DRAGONFLY}.BSD but
as a whole it already absolutely small small groups of people.
And do
On 07/17/11 07:24 PM, Fernando Apesteguía wrote:
However, what worries me is how influential he is in some open source
projects. He suggested that Gnome should be Linux specific because
trying to keep compatibility with other UNIX systems (BSD for example)
holds them from going further in the
--As of July 17, 2011 8:13:13 PM +0700, C. Bergström is alleged to have
said:
1) Why care about *BSD as a desktop?
2) Why care about *BSD as a workstation? (Which I see as a next level in
stability/usability beyond a toy desktop)
--As for the rest, it is mine.
Because it is easier to get
On Sun, 17 Jul 2011, Jerry wrote:
While I usually consider Slashdot nothing more than a bunch of
juveniles ranting against Microsoft; however, I did find this rather
interesting post this morning.
Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore
2011/7/17 C. Bergström cbergst...@pathscale.com:
On 07/17/11 07:24 PM, Fernando Apesteguía wrote:
However, what worries me is how influential he is in some open source
projects. He suggested that Gnome should be Linux specific because
trying to keep compatibility with other UNIX systems (BSD
The FreeBSD pieces work better. Does Linux have some advantages? Yes. Does
FreeBSD have some deficiencies? Yes.
There, I said it. I'm over it now.
++1 I completely agree, as a server OS FreeBSD hands down rocks
The only reason i can see netcraft making suh states is because of
On Sunday 17 July 2011 10:13:13 C. Bergström wrote:
In the specific case about Gnome - really if you care so much then you
can submit patches and contribute. If nobody is willing to do the work
(scratch the itch) then ultimately it really doesn't matter.
I hope gnome does do this.. Maybe
On 7/17/2011 6:16 PM, Mario Lobo wrote:
On Sunday 17 July 2011 10:13:13 C. Bergström wrote:
In the specific case about Gnome - really if you care so much then you
can submit patches and contribute. If nobody is willing to do the work
(scratch the itch) then ultimately it really doesn't matter.
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Outback Dingo outbackdi...@gmail.comwrote:
and cloud computing instances anyway, Name one cloud provider providing
FreeBSD 8x or 9X
to run as instances. I know of one coming... question is are there
others
There are plenty already. Rootbsd for one,
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.comwrote:
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Outback Dingo outbackdi...@gmail.comwrote:
and cloud computing instances anyway, Name one cloud provider providing
FreeBSD 8x or 9X
to run as instances. I know of one coming...
I am working on making a general purpose image for XEN (specifically
for rack space but since it is a common framework attempting to make
it vendor neutral)
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 12:16 AM, Outback Dingo outbackdi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Adam Vande More
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