Re: Advice on how to memorize images

2007-04-10 Thread bram

Vittorio schreef:
I'm now moving my first steps in trying to memorize my many digital 
photos (for the time being some 700 pictures but rapifdly growing, 
average size among 800-900kb)  in a centralised system easy to deal 
with. I'm now  successfully (but still in an experimental level) using  
a postgresql 8.0.2 db with its wonderful lo_creat, lo_export, etc 
functions.
Unfortunately I've read in the internet many criticism on 
the use of mysql or pgsql db to memorize images, that this is not an 
efficient way to do the job (no alternatives seem to be proposed 
anyway!) because the db easily becomes cumbersome  (isn't that the 
core business of a great db such as mysql or pgsql?).


Could someone 
out there tell an almost definite word on this subject with some 
suggestions (other applications?) based on real experience?


Ciao
Vittorio
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Hi,

I'm not a db guru but

I have done some experimenting with pictures in postgres and was quiet 
happy with it.
I do however prefer to keep the data and the pictures separate because 
some programs have difficulty with pictures in postgres,

or it's just very hard to program.
I now use an http server secured with digest authentication, I then up 
and download the pictures from python.

The main advantages for me are:
-easy to work with, you view your picture from any programming language 
with url support or from any web based solution.
-the pictures are stored on a different raid wich is not as fast as the 
primary but a lot larger.
-database backups remain fast while I can use lots of different methods 
to backup the pics.


I think pictures in the db is not such a problem but if you have a lot 
of pictures (eg 100 gig) it could become a little bit clumsy.

It also depends on the rest of the application.

just my toughts
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Re: Advice on how to memorize images

2007-04-10 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Vittorio [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I'm now moving my first steps in trying to memorize my many digital 
 photos (for the time being some 700 pictures but rapifdly growing, 
 average size among 800-900kb)  in a centralised system easy to deal 
 with. I'm now  successfully (but still in an experimental level) using  
 a postgresql 8.0.2 db with its wonderful lo_creat, lo_export, etc 
 functions.
 Unfortunately I've read in the internet many criticism on 
 the use of mysql or pgsql db to memorize images, that this is not an 
 efficient way to do the job (no alternatives seem to be proposed 
 anyway!) because the db easily becomes cumbersome  (isn't that the 
 core business of a great db such as mysql or pgsql?).

I highly recommend that you research some of the available open source
image organizers.

PostgreSQL would do excellent as a storage system for your pictures, but
you'd have to program in all the methods you wanted to used to catalog them
and so forth.  If you grab one of the existing album programs, it will
have all of that, including tools to crop your photos, adjust for redeye,
do fancy effects, etc, etc ...

I was at a LUG meeting where a number of these were presented recently, and
I'll be damned if I can remember any software names ...  Here are some that
I found during some googling:
http://gpc.sourceforge.net/
http://appliworks.jondesign.net/
http://f-spot.org/Main_Page

-- 
Bill Moran
http://www.potentialtech.com
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Re: Advice on how to memorize images

2007-04-10 Thread Bram Schoenmakers
Op dinsdag 10 april 2007, schreef Bill Moran:

Hi,

 I was at a LUG meeting where a number of these were presented recently, and
 I'll be damned if I can remember any software names ...  Here are some that
 I found during some googling:
 http://gpc.sourceforge.net/
 http://appliworks.jondesign.net/
 http://f-spot.org/Main_Page

Digikam should be capable of that as well (frontend for gphoto and with album 
management)

-- 
Bram Schoenmakers

What is mind? No matter. What is matter? Never mind.
(Punch, 1855)
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Re: Advice on how to memorize images

2007-04-10 Thread L Goodwin
You can use MySQL or any other relational database to cross-reference/catalog 
storage locations and information about a large quantity of items/data such as 
pictures.
IMHO, to make such a project worthwhile, you need a database design that serves 
your needs. If you don't want to design/develop it yourself, you can probably 
find a free cataloging program or database schema that will work well.

You store the actual images in a filesystem, and insert database records that 
have a field for specifying the path/filename where the image is located and 
other fields such as date/time photograph was taken, a name and/or description, 
etc.
You will want to have one or more tables for categorizing your images (at least 
two levels deep) to make it easier to find the one(s) you are looking for.
I would provide several ways to cross-reference images (based on one or more 
criteria).

Vittorio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm now moving my first steps in trying to 
memorize my many digital 
photos (for the time being some 700 pictures but rapifdly growing, 
average size among 800-900kb)  in a centralised system easy to deal 
with. I'm now  successfully (but still in an experimental level) using  
a postgresql 8.0.2 db with its wonderful lo_creat, lo_export, etc 
functions.
Unfortunately I've read in the internet many criticism on 
the use of mysql or pgsql db to memorize images, that this is not an 
efficient way to do the job (no alternatives seem to be proposed 
anyway!) because the db easily becomes cumbersome  (isn't that the 
core business of a great db such as mysql or pgsql?).

Could someone 
out there tell an almost definite word on this subject with some 
suggestions (other applications?) based on real experience?

Ciao
Vittorio
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Re: Advice on how to memorize images

2007-04-10 Thread Malcolm Fitzgerald
Vittorio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm now moving my first steps in 
trying to memorize my many digital

photos (for the time being some 700 pictures but rapifdly growing,
average size among 800-900kb)  in a centralised system easy to deal
with. I'm now  successfully (but still in an experimental level) using
a postgresql 8.0.2 db with its wonderful lo_creat, lo_export, etc
functions.


Why not use a pre-built image gallery application:


Coppermine: http://coppermine-gallery.net/
Gallery   : http://gallery.sourceforge.net/
MG2   : http://www.minigal.dk/


malcolm

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