Re: Any 4.10 installation on asus pundit ?

2004-06-20 Thread Bernard Dugas
Hi,
Robert Downes a écrit :
Bernard Dugas wrote:
Thanks very much, Robert, it was the udma option : but this is quite 
inefficient if I can't use UDMA with FreeBSD ?
FreeBSD will drop down to PIO mode, probably mode 4.
According to Scott Mueller's book, PIO mode 4 offers up to 16.67 MB/sec, 
whereas UDMA can offer up to 100 or 133 MB/sec. So, yes, less efficient 
(but also a bit quieter in my experience).
And the cpu load should increase, no ?
Have you been able to switch the data cable for a know good cable? That 
solved the problem for me.
I've tried a brand new one, but no difference...
Best regards,
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Re: Any 4.10 installation on asus pundit ?

2004-06-20 Thread Bernard Dugas
Hi,
Phil Schulz a écrit :
I didn't see the beginning of the thread.
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-questions/2004-June/049482.html
 But I had a similar problem on
my desktop machine using (I think) 4.9-Release. It started when I had to 
change the motherboard. The new one came w/ an SiS chipset that wasn't 
supported by FreeBSD. I solved the problem by adding a line to 
/sys/dev/ata/ata-dma.c. It worked for a few weeks w/o any problems until 
I switched to RELENG_5_2 for various other reasons.
You might want to post what chipset your mainboard uses.
http://www.asus.com/prog/spec.asp?m=Punditlangs=01
 - Chipset SIS 651/962
 - Lan Broadcom BCM4401
The freeBSD 4.10 ata0 seems not to work properly with the native udma 6 
of the pundit. Forcing dma disabled in the bios for the disk prevents 
the ad0 : read command timeout ata0 resetting devices blocking.

But no more DMA is not ideal for a server...
I've tried a new ide cable, and a new drive, without effect.
In addition, I can't find the bfe0 network driver for the Broadcom 
BCM4401 in the kernel configuration, but the 4.10 release notes told the 
bfe should be in.

Any hints ?
Thanks a lot, best regards,
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Re: Any 4.10 installation on asus pundit ?

2004-06-20 Thread Phil Schulz

my desktop machine using (I think) 4.9-Release. It started when I had 
to change the motherboard. The new one came w/ an SiS chipset that 
wasn't supported by FreeBSD. I solved the problem by adding a line to 
/sys/dev/ata/ata-dma.c. It worked for a few weeks w/o any problems 
until I switched to RELENG_5_2 for various other reasons.
You might want to post what chipset your mainboard uses.

http://www.asus.com/prog/spec.asp?m=Punditlangs=01
 - Chipset SIS 651/962
 - Lan Broadcom BCM4401
Try to apply the attached patch to /sys/dev/ata/ata-dma.c
Neither do I have a mainboard w/ the same chipset as yours nor do I have 
any PC running RELENG_4 atm. But I had to apply sth similar to make my 
SiS-746(?)-based mainboard work under RELENG_4. I'm not a developer so I 
don't know if it's a good and clean solution but it worked for me back then.

In addition, I can't find the bfe0 network driver for the Broadcom 
BCM4401 in the kernel configuration, but the 4.10 release notes told 
the bfe should be in.

From bfe(4): The bfe device driver first appeared in FreeBSD 5.1.
--- ata-dma.c.old   Sun Jun 20 19:30:10 2004
+++ ata-dma.c   Sun Jun 20 19:23:41 2004
@@ -669,6 +669,7 @@
ata_find_dev(parent, 0x06401039, 0) ||  /* SiS 640 */
ata_find_dev(parent, 0x06451039, 0) ||  /* SiS 645 */
ata_find_dev(parent, 0x06501039, 0) ||  /* SiS 650 */
+   ata_find_dev(parent, 0x06511039, 0) ||  /* SiS 651 */
ata_find_dev(parent, 0x07301039, 0) ||  /* SiS 730 */
ata_find_dev(parent, 0x07331039, 0) ||  /* SiS 733 */
ata_find_dev(parent, 0x07351039, 0) ||  /* SiS 735 */
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Re: Any 4.10 installation on asus pundit ?

2004-06-20 Thread Bernard Dugas
Phil Schulz a écrit :
http://www.asus.com/prog/spec.asp?m=Punditlangs=01
 - Chipset SIS 651/962
 - Lan Broadcom BCM4401
Try to apply the attached patch to /sys/dev/ata/ata-dma.c
Neither do I have a mainboard w/ the same chipset as yours nor do I have 
any PC running RELENG_4 atm. But I had to apply sth similar to make my 
SiS-746(?)-based mainboard work under RELENG_4. I'm not a developer so I 
don't know if it's a good and clean solution but it worked for me back 
then.
Thanks a lot, the content of this patch seems well targeted.
The problem is I'm not a system developper either, and I only had the 
iso images for installation, so I will have to find a way to apply the 
patch.

In addition, I can't find the bfe0 network driver for the Broadcom 
BCM4401 in the kernel configuration, but the 4.10 release notes told 
the bfe should be in.

 From bfe(4): The bfe device driver first appeared in FreeBSD 5.1.
Yes, but in http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.10R/errata.html :
(27 May 2004) The bfe(4) driver for Broadcom BCM4401 based Fast 
Ethernet adapters has been added but the release notes did not mention 
that.

I've reported a bug on that problems :
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=68149
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Re: Any 4.10 installation on asus pundit ?

2004-06-20 Thread Phil Schulz

The problem is I'm not a system developper either, and I only had the 
iso images for installation, so I will have to find a way to apply the 
patch.

You'll need the kernel sources installed. Then apply the patch and then 
re-compile the kernel. Basically you just need to add on line of code in 
the right place. If you have got the sources from CD and not updated 
them you will not need to rebuild  the userland. Check the handbook for 
details (chapter 9).

In addition, I can't find the bfe0 network driver for the Broadcom 
BCM4401 in the kernel configuration, but the 4.10 release notes told 
the bfe should be in.

 From bfe(4): The bfe device driver first appeared in FreeBSD 5.1.

Actually I forgot that 5.1 was released before 4.10 - my mistake. Indeed 
the driver seems to have been ported back to the 4-Stable branch.

Yes, but in http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.10R/errata.html :
(27 May 2004) The bfe(4) driver for Broadcom BCM4401 based Fast 
Ethernet adapters has been added but the release notes did not mention 
that.

I think you just need to add a line that reads
device   bfe
to your kernel config file and the rebuild the kernel.
Phil.
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Re: Any 4.10 installation on asus pundit ?

2004-06-19 Thread Bernard Dugas
Hi,
Robert Downes a écrit :
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've tried to install the last freebds4.10 on an ASUS PUNDIT, from the 
iso images downloaded from the freeBSD website.
But it can't install. It stops on a :
ata0 : resetting devices
I had that problem. I disabled UDMA (Ultra DMA) in the BIOS, and the 
problem was overcome.

However, it ultimately turned out to be a bad data cable to the hard 
drive, so see if you've got a good spare lying around to give that a 
try. (I got some serious errors in 5.2.1 trying to use the bad cable).
Thanks very much, Robert, it was the udma option : but this is quite 
inefficient if I can't use UDMA with FreeBSD ?

Best regards,
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Re: Any 4.10 installation on asus pundit ?

2004-06-19 Thread Phil Schulz
Bernard Dugas wrote:
Hi,
Robert Downes a écrit :
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've tried to install the last freebds4.10 on an ASUS PUNDIT, from 
the iso images downloaded from the freeBSD website.
But it can't install. It stops on a :
ata0 : resetting devices

I had that problem. I disabled UDMA (Ultra DMA) in the BIOS, and the 
problem was overcome.

However, it ultimately turned out to be a bad data cable to the hard 
drive, so see if you've got a good spare lying around to give that a 
try. (I got some serious errors in 5.2.1 trying to use the bad cable).

Thanks very much, Robert, it was the udma option : but this is quite 
inefficient if I can't use UDMA with FreeBSD ?

Best regards,
I didn't see the beginning of the thread. But I had a similar problem on 
my desktop machine using (I think) 4.9-Release. It started when I had to 
change the motherboard. The new one came w/ an SiS chipset that wasn't 
supported by FreeBSD. I solved the problem by adding a line to 
/sys/dev/ata/ata-dma.c. It worked for a few weeks w/o any problems until 
I switched to RELENG_5_2 for various other reasons.
You might want to post what chipset your mainboard uses.

Phil.
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Re: Any 4.10 installation on asus pundit ?

2004-06-19 Thread Robert Downes
Bernard Dugas wrote:
Thanks very much, Robert, it was the udma option : but this is quite 
inefficient if I can't use UDMA with FreeBSD ?

FreeBSD will drop down to PIO mode, probably mode 4.
According to Scott Mueller's book, PIO mode 4 offers up to 16.67 MB/sec, 
whereas UDMA can offer up to 100 or 133 MB/sec. So, yes, less efficient 
(but also a bit quieter in my experience).

Have you been able to switch the data cable for a know good cable? That 
solved the problem for me.

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Re: Any 4.10 installation on asus pundit ?

2004-06-15 Thread Robert Downes
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Hi,
I've tried to install the last freebds4.10 on an ASUS PUNDIT, from the 
iso images downloaded from the freeBSD website.

But it can't install. It stops on a :
ata0 : resetting devices
I had that problem. I disabled UDMA (Ultra DMA) in the BIOS, and the 
problem was overcome.

However, it ultimately turned out to be a bad data cable to the hard 
drive, so see if you've got a good spare lying around to give that a 
try. (I got some serious errors in 5.2.1 trying to use the bad cable).
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