Re: Any generic (non-wm-specific) audio players?

2006-06-23 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Jun 22, 2006 at 11:18:35PM -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote:
 On 6/22/06, Chris Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 22 Jun 2006, Gary Kline wrote:
 
  ... Does xmms play streams?
 
 I'm not sure about xmms and streams, never having tried it. So I've just
 been playing with this, and it seems to work like Nikolas' description
 of cplay: download the playlist manually, then you can load it from
 within xmms. I'm listening to radioparadise.com as I type this (thanks
 for the link, Nikolas!)
 
 
 Your welcome, here's more:
 
 http://www.somafm.com/ (multiple genres)
 http://www.bassdrive.com/ (Drum  Bass / Junge)  /* Tops, IMO, gk */
 http://www.friskyradio.com/ (EDM etc.)
 http://www.di.fm/ (multiple genres, mostly electronic)
 http://www.xtcradio.com/ (DJ Mix Sets)
 http://www.staticbeats.com/ (IDM)
 http://www.m1live.com/ (Club/Dance)
 
 Also, Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music (Flash Player Required):
 http://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html
 
 Does anyone know of streams that sound like XRT or Q101?... two radio
 stations in Chicago
 

*This* is exactly what  I was going to ask about next:
if we could all post streaming sites.  Oe of my favorites is
http://www.sky/fm/[many substream URL's].

Thanks for thhe Guide, Nikolas!  

Another thing I've been wondering about is xmms-faad2
which is mp4 or a High Effiency decoder of aac(?)
streams that only require 24kpbs to yeild fairly high
fidelity sound.  Does anybody know anything about how
xmms-faad2 works with good ol' xmms??  (I'm completely
new to most of this--streaming sites.  But then just got
new speakers w/bass boombox!)  So any tips will be very
welcome.

gary




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Re: Any generic (non-wm-specific) audio players?

2006-06-23 Thread Garrett Cooper

Gary Kline wrote:

On Thu, Jun 22, 2006 at 11:18:35PM -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote:
  

On 6/22/06, Chris Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Thu, 22 Jun 2006, Gary Kline wrote:

  

... Does xmms play streams?


I'm not sure about xmms and streams, never having tried it. So I've just
been playing with this, and it seems to work like Nikolas' description
of cplay: download the playlist manually, then you can load it from
within xmms. I'm listening to radioparadise.com as I type this (thanks
for the link, Nikolas!)

  

Your welcome, here's more:

http://www.somafm.com/ (multiple genres)
http://www.bassdrive.com/ (Drum  Bass / Junge)  /* Tops, IMO, gk */
http://www.friskyradio.com/ (EDM etc.)
http://www.di.fm/ (multiple genres, mostly electronic)
http://www.xtcradio.com/ (DJ Mix Sets)
http://www.staticbeats.com/ (IDM)
http://www.m1live.com/ (Club/Dance)

Also, Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music (Flash Player Required):
http://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html

Does anyone know of streams that sound like XRT or Q101?... two radio
stations in Chicago




*This* is exactly what  I was going to ask about next:
if we could all post streaming sites.  Oe of my favorites is
http://www.sky/fm/[many substream URL's].

	Thanks for thhe Guide, Nikolas!  


Another thing I've been wondering about is xmms-faad2
which is mp4 or a High Effiency decoder of aac(?)
streams that only require 24kpbs to yeild fairly high
fidelity sound.  Does anybody know anything about how
xmms-faad2 works with good ol' xmms??  (I'm completely
new to most of this--streaming sites.  But then just got
new speakers w/bass boombox!)  So any tips will be very
welcome.

gary
   The faad2 item should just be a plugin for xmms. It's kind of 
convoluted how they compile stuff with the faad2 lib, but basically-in 
Linux at least-it downloads the complete faad2 source, compiles it 
first, then compiles the plugin from a different branch from the main 
source in the source tree.
   I was doing a bit of reading too (trying to see if I can just change 
the source a bit to get ID3/iTunes tags to be read in xmms), and it 
turns out that iTunes uses MP4 format with AAC encoding, as opposed to 
AAC which uses MP2 encoding as a base.
   Doesn't really matter all that much I suppose, but I was just 
looking through the source trying to figure stuff out and the original 
author's nomenclature is just a bit confusing.

-Garrett
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Re: Any generic (non-wm-specific) audio players?

2006-06-23 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Jun 23, 2006 at 11:46:52AM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote:
 Gary Kline wrote:
 
  Another thing I've been wondering about is xmms-faad2
  which is mp4 or a High Effiency decoder of aac(?)
  streams that only require 24kpbs to yeild fairly high
  fidelity sound.  Does anybody know anything about how
  xmms-faad2 works with good ol' xmms??  (I'm completely
  new to most of this--streaming sites.  But then just got
  new speakers w/bass boombox!)  So any tips will be very
  welcome.
 
  gary
The faad2 item should just be a plugin for xmms. It's kind of 
 convoluted how they compile stuff with the faad2 lib, but basically-in 
 Linux at least-it downloads the complete faad2 source, compiles it 
 first, then compiles the plugin from a different branch from the main 
 source in the source tree.

I don't quite understand.  Many weeks ago sky.fm had an 
AAC stream for its Mostly Classical stream and I tried
xxmms-faad to play the sky.fm AAC dtream.  ZIP.  After a 
fewhours I kicked the cat and hit the wall and gave up.
I've looked around for other HE encoding with AAC, no-joy.
...

I was doing a bit of reading too (trying to see if I can just change 
 the source a bit to get ID3/iTunes tags to be read in xmms), and it 
 turns out that iTunes uses MP4 format with AAC encoding, as opposed to 
 AAC which uses MP2 encoding as a base.

I know virtually Zero about this other than the theory;
unfortunately, here theory is useless.  I poked around at 
web sites and FAQ's:: nothing gave me any *practical*]
advise.  xmms is beyond Neat, but exactly how does xmms-faad2
PLUGIN???  I grep's the /work/* xmms code for pluggin, nothing.
c ** 2  [[ Interesting tidbit about Apple, BTW.]


Doesn't really matter all that much I suppose, but I was just 
 looking through the source trying to figure stuff out and the original 
 author's nomenclature is just a bit confusing.
 -Garrett

Good to know I'm not the only one.  I realize we/FBSD have a 
rather small bunch, but there are some brilliant people on-list.
Maybe some thoughtful person can clue me in

gary



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Re: Any generic (non-wm-specific) audio players?

2006-06-23 Thread Garrett Cooper

Gary Kline wrote:

On Fri, Jun 23, 2006 at 11:46:52AM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote:
  

Gary Kline wrote:


Another thing I've been wondering about is xmms-faad2
which is mp4 or a High Effiency decoder of aac(?)
streams that only require 24kpbs to yeild fairly high
fidelity sound.  Does anybody know anything about how
xmms-faad2 works with good ol' xmms??  (I'm completely
new to most of this--streaming sites.  But then just got
new speakers w/bass boombox!)  So any tips will be very
welcome.

gary
  
   The faad2 item should just be a plugin for xmms. It's kind of 
convoluted how they compile stuff with the faad2 lib, but basically-in 
Linux at least-it downloads the complete faad2 source, compiles it 
first, then compiles the plugin from a different branch from the main 
source in the source tree.



	I don't quite understand.  Many weeks ago sky.fm had an 
	AAC stream for its Mostly Classical stream and I tried
	xxmms-faad to play the sky.fm AAC dtream.  ZIP.  After a 
	fewhours I kicked the cat and hit the wall and gave up.

I've looked around for other HE encoding with AAC, no-joy.
...

  
Hmmm... I've never really tried FAAD2 stuff with FreeBSD though... I 
sort of limit my FreeBSD use to daemons and such and use my Linux box 
for all my desktop playing around :).


faad2 by itself only decodes the file into PCM I believe... it doesn't 
output to any specific sound devices (ie /dev/dsp, etc).


Sad thing too is that I think that the faad2 project was abandoned last 
year, maybe... (at least it seems that way since there hasn't been any 
active development on the project since either April or June of last 
year IIRC, based on their last CVS snapshot _...).
   I was doing a bit of reading too (trying to see if I can just change 
the source a bit to get ID3/iTunes tags to be read in xmms), and it 
turns out that iTunes uses MP4 format with AAC encoding, as opposed to 
AAC which uses MP2 encoding as a base.



I know virtually Zero about this other than the theory;
	unfortunately, here theory is useless.  I poked around at 
	web sites and FAQ's:: nothing gave me any *practical*]

advise.  xmms is beyond Neat, but exactly how does xmms-faad2
PLUGIN???  I grep's the /work/* xmms code for pluggin, nothing.
c ** 2  [[ Interesting tidbit about Apple, BTW.]
  

Here; this is what I meant when I said what I said earlier ;):

#faad2 source:
shiina:~/Documents/faad_revision gcooper$ ls -l faad2/plugins/xmms/src/
total 56
-rwxr-xr-x   1 gcooper  gcooper423 Jun 20 22:12 Makefile.am
-rwxr-xr-x   1 gcooper  gcooper   2714 Jun 20 22:12 aac_utils.c
-rwxr-xr-x   1 gcooper  gcooper  13332 Jun 20 22:12 libmp4.c
-rwxr-xr-x   1 gcooper  gcooper   2567 Jun 20 22:12 mp4_utils.c
drwxrwxrwx   4 gcooper  gcooper136 Jun 20 22:12 old
shiina:~/Documents/faad_revision gcooper$

#xmms source:
shiina:~/Documents/faad_revision gcooper$ ls -l xmms-1.2.10/Input/
total 72
-rwxr-xr-x1 gcooper  gcooper  15259 Jun 20 22:14 Makefile
-rwxr-xr-x1 gcooper  gcooper 82 Jun 20 22:14 Makefile.am
-rwxr-xr-x1 gcooper  gcooper  15508 Jun 20 22:14 Makefile.in
drwxrwxrwx   27 gcooper  gcooper918 Jun 20 22:14 cdaudio
drwxrwxrwx   11 gcooper  gcooper374 Jun 20 22:14 mikmod
drwxrwxrwx   91 gcooper  gcooper   3094 Jun 20 22:14 mpg123
drwxrwxrwx   11 gcooper  gcooper374 Jun 20 22:14 tonegen
drwxrwxrwx   15 gcooper  gcooper510 Jun 20 22:14 vorbis
drwxrwxrwx   12 gcooper  gcooper408 Jun 20 22:14 wav
shiina:~/Documents/faad_revision gcooper$

So what I think happens is that it downloads the faad2 source, untars 
it, then compiles with preexisting headers for xmms on the system, and 
installs the compiled version of the plugin on the system (wherever the 
plugins go.. not sure again since I use Linux for this stuff by default).


As for the Apple work, it is interesting because I've been playing 
around with iTunes a bit and it appears that I *could* reverse engineer 
a lot of the fields (there's no way I'm paying Apple for licensing fees 
:P), and then either code some stuff or set someone else up with the 
information for them to code. I need another file made by a proprietary 
encoder just to make things more constant and ensure that Apple isn't 
just doing their own thing as opposed to following some sort of set 
standard.
  
   Doesn't really matter all that much I suppose, but I was just 
looking through the source trying to figure stuff out and the original 
author's nomenclature is just a bit confusing.

-Garrett



	Good to know I'm not the only one.  I realize we/FBSD have a 
	rather small bunch, but there are some brilliant people on-list.

Maybe some thoughtful person can clue me in

gary
  

-Garrett
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Re: Any generic (non-wm-specific) audio players?

2006-06-23 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Jun 23, 2006 at 05:12:31PM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote:
 Gary Kline wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 23, 2006 at 11:46:52AM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote:
   
[[ ... ]]

   
 Hmmm... I've never really tried FAAD2 stuff with FreeBSD though... I 
 sort of limit my FreeBSD use to daemons and such and use my Linux box 
 for all my desktop playing around :).

This is what I've finaaly decided is the most rational use 
of my time and resources.   Can't beat FBSD for sheer stability,
but it's not the opyimal Desktop.  xmms for my mp3's.  Or
cplay.  Ubuntu for ease-of-use.   


 
 faad2 by itself only decodes the file into PCM I believe... it doesn't 
 output to any specific sound devices (ie /dev/dsp, etc).
 
 Sad thing too is that I think that the faad2 project was abandoned last 
 year, maybe... (at least it seems that way since there hasn't been any 
 active development on the project since either April or June of last 
 year IIRC, based on their last CVS snapshot _...).


So... that explains paart of  it.  I didn't check the
CVS logs


 
  I know virtually Zero about this other than the theory;
  unfortunately, here theory is useless.  I poked around at 
  web sites and FAQ's:: nothing gave me any *practical*]
  advise.  xmms is beyond Neat, but exactly how does xmms-faad2
  PLUGIN???  I grep's the /work/* xmms code for pluggin, nothing.
  c ** 2  [[ Interesting tidbit about Apple, BTW.]
   
 Here; this is what I meant when I said what I said earlier ;):
 
 #faad2 source:
 shiina:~/Documents/faad_revision gcooper$ ls -l faad2/plugins/xmms/src/
 total 56
 -rwxr-xr-x   1 gcooper  gcooper423 Jun 20 22:12 Makefile.am
 -rwxr-xr-x   1 gcooper  gcooper   2714 Jun 20 22:12 aac_utils.c
 -rwxr-xr-x   1 gcooper  gcooper  13332 Jun 20 22:12 libmp4.c
 -rwxr-xr-x   1 gcooper  gcooper   2567 Jun 20 22:12 mp4_utils.c
 drwxrwxrwx   4 gcooper  gcooper136 Jun 20 22:12 old
 shiina:~/Documents/faad_revision gcooper$
 
 #xmms source:
 shiina:~/Documents/faad_revision gcooper$ ls -l xmms-1.2.10/Input/
 total 72
 -rwxr-xr-x1 gcooper  gcooper  15259 Jun 20 22:14 Makefile
 -rwxr-xr-x1 gcooper  gcooper 82 Jun 20 22:14 Makefile.am
 -rwxr-xr-x1 gcooper  gcooper  15508 Jun 20 22:14 Makefile.in
 drwxrwxrwx   27 gcooper  gcooper918 Jun 20 22:14 cdaudio
 drwxrwxrwx   11 gcooper  gcooper374 Jun 20 22:14 mikmod
 drwxrwxrwx   91 gcooper  gcooper   3094 Jun 20 22:14 mpg123
 drwxrwxrwx   11 gcooper  gcooper374 Jun 20 22:14 tonegen
 drwxrwxrwx   15 gcooper  gcooper510 Jun 20 22:14 vorbis
 drwxrwxrwx   12 gcooper  gcooper408 Jun 20 22:14 wav
 shiina:~/Documents/faad_revision gcooper$
 
 So what I think happens is that it downloads the faad2 source, untars 
 it, then compiles with preexisting headers for xmms on the system, and 
 installs the compiled version of the plugin on the system (wherever the 
 plugins go.. not sure again since I use Linux for this stuff by default).
 
 As for the Apple work, it is interesting because I've been playing 
 around with iTunes a bit and it appears that I *could* reverse engineer 
 a lot of the fields (there's no way I'm paying Apple for licensing fees 
 :P), and then either code some stuff or set someone else up with the 
 information for them to code. I need another file made by a proprietary 
 encoder just to make things more constant and ensure that Apple isn't 
 just doing their own thing as opposed to following some sort of set 
 standard.
   
Well, if you ever feeling like r-engineering, the Linux folks
seem like a good bet.  

... .

gary



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Re: Any generic (non-wm-specific) audio players?

2006-06-22 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 05:51:32PM -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote:
 On 6/21/06, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I would probably save weeks trying to turn FBSD into the kind of
 Desktop or window-manager platform I want by just using my
 Ubuntu platform.
 
 I'm still stickng
 with CTWM.  On my Ubuntu servers there is amarak(sp?) which is
 my favorite audio-only apps so far.  Is there anything like this
 that doesn't require desktop-specific libraries?
 
 
 cplay!!! http://mask.tf.hut.fi/~flu/hacks/cplay/ It's in ports under
 audio/cplay. cplay is just a, python based, curses front-end so you
 will also need to install a back-end (ogg123, splay, mpg123, mpg321,
 madplay, mikmod, xmp, or sox), I recommend splay.
 
 I've attached the default .cplayrc config file, copy it to your home
 directory if the port doesn't automatically install it (I don't think
 it does)... and read the man page for cplay.
 
 

Does cplay play streaming audio?  The KDE app does and I am
really getting into some one the new drums and ambient(?)
stuff.  Wow.  Anyway, curses is fine.  Thanks for the config
file.

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Re: Any generic (non-wm-specific) audio players?

2006-06-22 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 07:10:43PM -0400, Chris Hill wrote:
 On Wed, 21 Jun 2006, Gary Kline wrote:
 
  ...On my Ubuntu servers there is amarak(sp?) which is
  my favorite audio-only apps so far.  Is there anything like this
  that doesn't require desktop-specific libraries?
 
 I've been using xmms for ages. It works, supports many formats, and 
 seems to be pretty lightweight.
 

I use xmms to play the few mp3 files I have; I see many variants
of this in ports, but zero idea how the interface.  Does xmms
play streams?  Be nice is there were a Howto for this.

gary


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Re: Any generic (non-wm-specific) audio players?

2006-06-22 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 11:53:23PM -0500, Dennis Olvany wrote:
 vlc

Sounds familiar;  any docs?  I'll check the orts tree...



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Re: Any generic (non-wm-specific) audio players?

2006-06-22 Thread Nikolas Britton

On 6/22/06, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 05:51:32PM -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote:
 On 6/21/06, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I would probably save weeks trying to turn FBSD into the kind of
 Desktop or window-manager platform I want by just using my
 Ubuntu platform.
 
 I'm still stickng
 with CTWM.  On my Ubuntu servers there is amarak(sp?) which is
 my favorite audio-only apps so far.  Is there anything like this
 that doesn't require desktop-specific libraries?
 

 cplay!!! http://mask.tf.hut.fi/~flu/hacks/cplay/ It's in ports under
 audio/cplay. cplay is just a, python based, curses front-end so you
 will also need to install a back-end (ogg123, splay, mpg123, mpg321,
 madplay, mikmod, xmp, or sox), I recommend splay.

 I've attached the default .cplayrc config file, copy it to your home
 directory if the port doesn't automatically install it (I don't think
 it does)... and read the man page for cplay.



Does cplay play streaming audio?  The KDE app does and I am
really getting into some one the new drums and ambient(?)
stuff.  Wow.  Anyway, curses is fine.  Thanks for the config
file.



Download the streams playlist file (.pls, .m3u, etc.) and then add it
to cplays playlist like you would with a normal mp3... That's how I do
it, I have not looked for a better way to do it because it's good
enough for me... It also depends on the back-end your using and what's
in your cplayrc file...

You could also launch the stream at the command line, you'll still
need to manually download the playlist file first:
$ cplay radio_paradise.m3u

If you do this:
$ cplay http://www.radioparadise.com/musiclinks/rp_128.m3u
It won't automatically fetch the playlist file, I think it's simply an
issue with the back-end player... maybe mpg123 (or another back-end)
can automatically fetch them... I don't know... have not tried.



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Re: Any generic (non-wm-specific) audio players?

2006-06-22 Thread Simon Olofsson
Hi,

audio/cmus is very nice.
HTH

On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 03:17:20PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
 
   I would probably save weeks trying to turn FBSD into the kind of
   Desktop or window-manager platform I want by just using my
   Ubuntu platform.
 
   I'm still stickng
   with CTWM.  On my Ubuntu servers there is amarak(sp?) which is 
   my favorite audio-only apps so far.  Is there anything like this
   that doesn't require desktop-specific libraries?

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With best regards,

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Re: Any generic (non-wm-specific) audio players?

2006-06-22 Thread Chris Hill

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006, Gary Kline wrote:


... Does xmms   play streams?


I'm not sure about xmms and streams, never having tried it. So I've just 
been playing with this, and it seems to work like Nikolas' description 
of cplay: download the playlist manually, then you can load it from 
within xmms. I'm listening to radioparadise.com as I type this (thanks 
for the link, Nikolas!)


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Re: Any generic (non-wm-specific) audio players?

2006-06-22 Thread Jim Stapleton

I know xmms does a few stream formats (like MP3), and can probably
handle most as it is plugin based. I use it as my main audio player in
BSD/Linux as I like the interface most. It's a faitful winamp clone,
which as my first music player that stuck.

Anyway, the sterio looking controls do what they would on a remote
control, there is a playlist (PL in the main window) that is drag and
drop,  with some labled buttons that should be relatively navigatable
(add files/directories/etc). For a lot of configuration, right click
on a couple of non interface areas until you see a menu with
options-preferences come out.

http://www.xmms.org/
http://www.xmms.org/docs/readme.php


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Re: Any generic (non-wm-specific) audio players?

2006-06-22 Thread Nikolas Britton

On 6/22/06, Chris Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006, Gary Kline wrote:

 ... Does xmms play streams?

I'm not sure about xmms and streams, never having tried it. So I've just
been playing with this, and it seems to work like Nikolas' description
of cplay: download the playlist manually, then you can load it from
within xmms. I'm listening to radioparadise.com as I type this (thanks
for the link, Nikolas!)



Your welcome, here's more:

http://www.somafm.com/ (multiple genres)
http://www.bassdrive.com/ (Drum  Bass / Junge)
http://www.friskyradio.com/ (EDM etc.)
http://www.di.fm/ (multiple genres, mostly electronic)
http://www.xtcradio.com/ (DJ Mix Sets)
http://www.staticbeats.com/ (IDM)
http://www.m1live.com/ (Club/Dance)

Also, Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music (Flash Player Required):
http://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html

Does anyone know of streams that sound like XRT or Q101?... two radio
stations in Chicago


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Re: Any generic (non-wm-specific) audio players?

2006-06-21 Thread Nikolas Britton

On 6/21/06, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I would probably save weeks trying to turn FBSD into the kind of
Desktop or window-manager platform I want by just using my
Ubuntu platform.

I'm still stickng
with CTWM.  On my Ubuntu servers there is amarak(sp?) which is
my favorite audio-only apps so far.  Is there anything like this
that doesn't require desktop-specific libraries?



cplay!!! http://mask.tf.hut.fi/~flu/hacks/cplay/ It's in ports under
audio/cplay. cplay is just a, python based, curses front-end so you
will also need to install a back-end (ogg123, splay, mpg123, mpg321,
madplay, mikmod, xmp, or sox), I recommend splay.

I've attached the default .cplayrc config file, copy it to your home
directory if the port doesn't automatically install it (I don't think
it does)... and read the man page for cplay.



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Re: Any generic (non-wm-specific) audio players?

2006-06-21 Thread RW
On Wednesday 21 June 2006 23:17, Gary Kline wrote:
   I would probably save weeks trying to turn FBSD into the kind of
   Desktop or window-manager platform I want by just using my
   Ubuntu platform.

   I'm still stickng
   with CTWM.  On my Ubuntu servers there is amarak(sp?) which is
   my favorite audio-only apps so far.  Is there anything like this
   that doesn't require desktop-specific libraries?

Without a doubt xmms.
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Re: Any generic (non-wm-specific) audio players?

2006-06-21 Thread Chris Hill

On Wed, 21 Jun 2006, Gary Kline wrote:


...On my Ubuntu servers there is amarak(sp?) which is
my favorite audio-only apps so far.  Is there anything like this
that doesn't require desktop-specific libraries?


I've been using xmms for ages. It works, supports many formats, and 
seems to be pretty lightweight.


HTH.

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Re: Any generic (non-wm-specific) audio players?

2006-06-21 Thread Dennis Olvany

vlc
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