Re: cvsup behind windows xp (The next level)

2004-07-10 Thread Grant Speelman
On Friday 09 July 2004 18:00, you wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 03:09:23PM +0200, Grant Speelman wrote:
  On Thursday 08 July 2004 11:52, you wrote:
   On Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 12:33:18AM +0200, Grant Speelman wrote:
I got the small problem, I would like to keep my ports
collection update using cvsup but I don't have a direct
connection to the internet. My Computer is on a network with
my Fathers computer which is running windows xp.  Lets say I
have full access to my fathers computer as long I don't
remove windows xp. What would I have to do to my fathers
computer and my in order to keep my ports collections
updated.
   
I read the man pages something about cvsup using a socks
proxy but where do I find this runsock(I look in the ports
and try the 'which' command) and how do I use it.
  
   You can enable 'connection sharing' on your Father's XP box
   which should permit your FreeBSD machine sufficient network
   access to run cvsup(1).  Connection Sharing simply makes the XP
   machine into a NAT gateway for your home network, and enables a
   DHCP+DNS service on the XP box, so that other home machines can
   autoconfigure themselves against it.  A FreeBSD machine should
   be able to do that without too much trouble.
 
  Right I check up on this connection sharing on windows Xp but run
  into a small problem , the connection sharing will only work if
  you use windows xp's dailup to connect to your ISP but my father
  uses the dailup connection program the ISP offers(and I tried
  setting it up using the xp's dailer but with no success) ,
  therefore there is no dailup in the network connections of xp, so
  I can't use the connection sharing of xp unless there is some
  other way to enable it.

 You'ld have to ask someone who knew about XP to get an answer to
 that.

  It is possible though for me to use a proxy , I use it for my
  basic connections like mail , www , etc. But how would I be able
  to get cvsup to work on a connection like this?

 Depends on the proxy.  If it's an application specific proxy then
 unfortunately you are out of luck.  You would need a program that
 ran under windows and that understood the cvsup protocol.  I don't
 believe that such a program exists.  On the other hand, if you have
 a much lower level of proxying -- down at the packet level -- all
 you would need to do is forward packets destined for port 5999/tcp.
  I say proxy, but the piece of software that does that job is
 usually described as doing Network Address TRanslation -- and the
 standard way of doing that under Windows is with the Connection
 Sharing setup, so dead end there as well.

 However, all is not lost.  You can use CTM instead of cvsup -- see
 the ctm(1) man page and the handbook section:


 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ctm.html

 With CTM you get a series of 'deltas' sent to you via e-mail (which
 you should have no trouble receiving) -- use the ctm(1) program to
 apply them to your sources and it will keep everything up to date
 for you.


Thanks for the help , I give ctm a shot

Grant


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Re: cvsup behind windows xp (The next level)

2004-07-09 Thread Grant Speelman
On Thursday 08 July 2004 11:52, you wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 12:33:18AM +0200, Grant Speelman wrote:
  I got the small problem, I would like to keep my ports collection
  update using cvsup but I don't have a direct connection to the
  internet. My Computer is on a network with my Fathers computer
  which is running windows xp.  Lets say I have full access to my
  fathers computer as long I don't remove windows xp. What would I
  have to do to my fathers computer and my in order to keep my
  ports collections updated.
 
  I read the man pages something about cvsup using a socks proxy
  but where do I find this runsock(I look in the ports and try the
  'which' command) and how do I use it.

 You can enable 'connection sharing' on your Father's XP box which
 should permit your FreeBSD machine sufficient network access to run
 cvsup(1).  Connection Sharing simply makes the XP machine into a
 NAT gateway for your home network, and enables a DHCP+DNS service
 on the XP box, so that other home machines can autoconfigure
 themselves against it.  A FreeBSD machine should be able to do that
 without too much trouble.


Right I check up on this connection sharing on windows Xp but run into 
a small problem , the connection sharing will only work if you use 
windows xp's dailup to connect to your ISP but my father uses the 
dailup connection program the ISP offers(and I tried setting it up 
using the xp's dailer but with no success) , therefore there is no 
dailup in the network connections of xp, so I can't use the 
connection sharing of xp unless there is some other way to enable it.

It is possible though for me to use a proxy , I use it for my basic 
connections like mail , www , etc. But how would I be able to get 
cvsup to work on a connection like this?

Thanks

Grant


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Re: cvsup behind windows xp (The next level)

2004-07-09 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 03:09:23PM +0200, Grant Speelman wrote:
 On Thursday 08 July 2004 11:52, you wrote:
  On Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 12:33:18AM +0200, Grant Speelman wrote:
   I got the small problem, I would like to keep my ports collection
   update using cvsup but I don't have a direct connection to the
   internet. My Computer is on a network with my Fathers computer
   which is running windows xp.  Lets say I have full access to my
   fathers computer as long I don't remove windows xp. What would I
   have to do to my fathers computer and my in order to keep my
   ports collections updated.
  
   I read the man pages something about cvsup using a socks proxy
   but where do I find this runsock(I look in the ports and try the
   'which' command) and how do I use it.
 
  You can enable 'connection sharing' on your Father's XP box which
  should permit your FreeBSD machine sufficient network access to run
  cvsup(1).  Connection Sharing simply makes the XP machine into a
  NAT gateway for your home network, and enables a DHCP+DNS service
  on the XP box, so that other home machines can autoconfigure
  themselves against it.  A FreeBSD machine should be able to do that
  without too much trouble.
 
 
 Right I check up on this connection sharing on windows Xp but run into 
 a small problem , the connection sharing will only work if you use 
 windows xp's dailup to connect to your ISP but my father uses the 
 dailup connection program the ISP offers(and I tried setting it up 
 using the xp's dailer but with no success) , therefore there is no 
 dailup in the network connections of xp, so I can't use the 
 connection sharing of xp unless there is some other way to enable it.

You'ld have to ask someone who knew about XP to get an answer to that.
 
 It is possible though for me to use a proxy , I use it for my basic 
 connections like mail , www , etc. But how would I be able to get 
 cvsup to work on a connection like this?

Depends on the proxy.  If it's an application specific proxy then
unfortunately you are out of luck.  You would need a program that ran
under windows and that understood the cvsup protocol.  I don't believe
that such a program exists.  On the other hand, if you have a much
lower level of proxying -- down at the packet level -- all you would
need to do is forward packets destined for port 5999/tcp.  I say
proxy, but the piece of software that does that job is usually
described as doing Network Address TRanslation -- and the standard
way of doing that under Windows is with the Connection Sharing setup,
so dead end there as well.

However, all is not lost.  You can use CTM instead of cvsup -- see the
ctm(1) man page and the handbook section:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ctm.html

With CTM you get a series of 'deltas' sent to you via e-mail (which
you should have no trouble receiving) -- use the ctm(1) program to
apply them to your sources and it will keep everything up to date for
you.

Cheers,

Matthew

-- 
Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.   26 The Paddocks
  Savill Way
PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow
Tel: +44 1628 476614  Bucks., SL7 1TH UK


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Re: cvsup behind windows xp

2004-07-08 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 12:33:18AM +0200, Grant Speelman wrote:

 I got the small problem, I would like to keep my ports collection 
 update using cvsup but I don't have a direct connection to the 
 internet. My Computer is on a network with my Fathers computer which 
 is running windows xp.  Lets say I have full access to my fathers 
 computer as long I don't remove windows xp. What would I have to do 
 to my fathers computer and my in order to keep my ports collections 
 updated.
 
 I read the man pages something about cvsup using a socks proxy but 
 where do I find this runsock(I look in the ports and try the 'which' 
 command) and how do I use it. 

You can enable 'connection sharing' on your Father's XP box which
should permit your FreeBSD machine sufficient network access to run
cvsup(1).  Connection Sharing simply makes the XP machine into a NAT
gateway for your home network, and enables a DHCP+DNS service on the
XP box, so that other home machines can autoconfigure themselves
against it.  A FreeBSD machine should be able to do that without too
much trouble.

There's plenty of previous traffic on this topic on the FreeBSD lists
-- start with these, for example

http://freebsd.rambler.ru/srch?words=%22Connection+sharing%22

Good luck.  Oh, and good luck in the near future when you start trying
to persuade your Father that having a FreeBSD box to do the Internet
Gateway stuff would be a better idea -- somehow I can sense that one
coming...

Cheers,

Matthew

-- 
Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.   26 The Paddocks
  Savill Way
PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow
Tel: +44 1628 476614  Bucks., SL7 1TH UK


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