Re: About Freebsd 7.0 versus 6.3

2007-12-27 Thread Jim Pazarena
Aryeh Friedman wrote: On Nov 8, 2007 11:55 AM, Expresso Digital ISP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, my name is Cesar. I'd like to know what is the diference between 7.0 and 6.3 and why create a newest version and after old version. 6.X is the last of versions meant primarilly for single

Re: About Freebsd 7.0 versus 6.3

2007-12-27 Thread Matthew Seaman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Jim Pazarena wrote: When installing a test of 7.0 B4, I found that directories which I have traditionally used (/usr/local/libexec /usr/local/include /usr/local/lib /usr/local/sbin /usr/local/man/* etc) and /etc/make.conf are not visible

Re: About Freebsd 7.0 versus 6.3

2007-12-27 Thread Kris Kennaway
Jim Pazarena wrote: Aryeh Friedman wrote: On Nov 8, 2007 11:55 AM, Expresso Digital ISP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, my name is Cesar. I'd like to know what is the diference between 7.0 and 6.3 and why create a newest version and after old version. 6.X is the last of versions meant

Re: About Freebsd 7.0 versus 6.3

2007-11-21 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 06:07:32PM +, Chris wrote: Interesting so I learnt 2 things here csup exists so no need to install cvsup and I should run 'make delete-old-libs' . Basically I have done the following. Well, you don't _have_ to (nobody is forcing you to do it). But if you don't, old

Re: About Freebsd 7.0 versus 6.3

2007-11-21 Thread Chris
On 08/11/2007, Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 02:48:47PM -0300, Mario Lobo wrote: Concerning this, I've cvsuping to 6-CURRENT on a dual-core desktop. The system is running well, but I'd really like to move up to 7. Can it be done through cvsup from 6.2-STABLE

Re: About Freebsd 7.0 versus 6.3

2007-11-09 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Aryeh Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Nov 8, 2007 11:55 AM, Expresso Digital ISP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to know what is the diference between 7.0 and 6.3 and why create a newest version and after old version. 6.X is the last of versions meant primarilly for single

Re: About Freebsd 7.0 versus 6.3

2007-11-09 Thread Garrett Cooper
Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: Aryeh Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Nov 8, 2007 11:55 AM, Expresso Digital ISP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to know what is the diference between 7.0 and 6.3 and why create a newest version and after old version. 6.X is the last

Re: About Freebsd 7.0 versus 6.3

2007-11-09 Thread Garrett Cooper
Albert Shih wrote: Le 08/11/2007 à 19:32:39+0100, Roland Smith a écrit On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 02:48:47PM -0300, Mario Lobo wrote: Concerning this, I've cvsuping to 6-CURRENT on a dual-core desktop. The system is running well, but I'd really like to move up to 7. Can it be done

Re: About Freebsd 7.0 versus 6.3

2007-11-09 Thread Albert Shih
Le 09/11/2007 à 06:12:48+0100, Roland Smith a écrit On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 11:14:13PM +0100, Albert Shih wrote: Be careful if you not using standard shell becauseif you using a shell come from ports Root should _never_ use a shell from ports. You can use the 'toor' account for

About Freebsd 7.0 versus 6.3

2007-11-08 Thread Expresso Digital ISP
Hi, my name is Cesar. I'd like to know what is the diference between 7.0 and 6.3 and why create a newest version and after old version. -- Att.   Expresso Digital ISP - tecnologia.multimidia.seguranca Cesar Vogelsanger MCSO - Módulo Certified Security Officer Administrador de Tecnologia

Re: About Freebsd 7.0 versus 6.3

2007-11-08 Thread Aryeh Friedman
On Nov 8, 2007 11:55 AM, Expresso Digital ISP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, my name is Cesar. I'd like to know what is the diference between 7.0 and 6.3 and why create a newest version and after old version. 6.X is the last of versions meant primarilly for single processing machines (with some

Re: About Freebsd 7.0 versus 6.3

2007-11-08 Thread Mario Lobo
On Thursday 08 November 2007, Aryeh Friedman wrote: On Nov 8, 2007 11:55 AM, Expresso Digital ISP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, my name is Cesar. I'd like to know what is the diference between 7.0 and 6.3 and why create a newest version and after old version. 6.X is the last of versions

Re: About Freebsd 7.0 versus 6.3

2007-11-08 Thread Roland Smith
On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 02:48:47PM -0300, Mario Lobo wrote: Concerning this, I've cvsuping to 6-CURRENT on a dual-core desktop. The system is running well, but I'd really like to move up to 7. Can it be done through cvsup from 6.2-STABLE to 7-CURRENT or is it wiser to install from scratch?

Re: About Freebsd 7.0 versus 6.3

2007-11-08 Thread RW
On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 14:48:47 -0300 Mario Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 08 November 2007, Aryeh Friedman wrote: 7.X is the beginning of the versions specifically designed with multiprocessing/cores in mind Does this mean that 6.x will perform better on single cpu systems? The

Re: About Freebsd 7.0 versus 6.3

2007-11-08 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
Roland Smith wrote: Port upgrade tools are not guaranteed to work perfectly in this situation. I tried doing an update with portmanager and ended up with some binaries linked against both libc.so.6 and libc.so.7! Some ports didn't even compile. Yeah, I almost always delete packages during an

Re: About Freebsd 7.0 versus 6.3

2007-11-08 Thread Roland Smith
On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 07:27:58PM +, Matthew Seaman wrote: a. Make backups b. Read /usr/src/UPDATING 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source tree). 2. `make buildworld' 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC).

Re: About Freebsd 7.0 versus 6.3

2007-11-08 Thread Kris Kennaway
Mario Lobo wrote: On Thursday 08 November 2007, Aryeh Friedman wrote: On Nov 8, 2007 11:55 AM, Expresso Digital ISP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, my name is Cesar. I'd like to know what is the diference between 7.0 and 6.3 and why create a newest version and after old version. 6.X is the last

Re: About Freebsd 7.0 versus 6.3

2007-11-08 Thread Roland Smith
On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 09:32:22PM +0100, Kris Kennaway wrote: You don't need to delete all the ports in one go and then reinstall them in another: running 'portupgrade -fa' will do the job. Port upgrade tools are not guaranteed to work perfectly in this situation. I tried doing an update

Re: About Freebsd 7.0 versus 6.3

2007-11-08 Thread Ivan Georgiev
On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:27:58 + Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Roland Smith wrote: On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 02:48:47PM -0300, Mario Lobo wrote: Concerning this, I've cvsuping to 6-CURRENT on a dual-core desktop. The system

Re: About Freebsd 7.0 versus 6.3

2007-11-08 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 12:28:59PM -0500, Aryeh Friedman wrote: On Nov 8, 2007 11:55 AM, Expresso Digital ISP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, my name is Cesar. I'd like to know what is the diference between 7.0 and 6.3 and why create a newest version and after old version. See http

Re: About Freebsd 7.0 versus 6.3

2007-11-08 Thread Matthew Seaman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Roland Smith wrote: On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 02:48:47PM -0300, Mario Lobo wrote: Concerning this, I've cvsuping to 6-CURRENT on a dual-core desktop. The system is running well, but I'd really like to move up to 7. Can it be done through cvsup

Re: About Freebsd 7.0 versus 6.3

2007-11-08 Thread Mario Lobo
On Thursday 08 November 2007, Roland Smith wrote: On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 02:48:47PM -0300, Mario Lobo wrote: Concerning this, I've cvsuping to 6-CURRENT on a dual-core desktop. The system is running well, but I'd really like to move up to 7. Can it be done through cvsup from 6.2-STABLE to

Re: About Freebsd 7.0 versus 6.3

2007-11-08 Thread Kris Kennaway
Roland Smith wrote: On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 07:27:58PM +, Matthew Seaman wrote: a. Make backups b. Read /usr/src/UPDATING 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source tree). 2. `make buildworld' 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is

Re: About Freebsd 7.0 versus 6.3

2007-11-08 Thread Kris Kennaway
Ivan Georgiev wrote: On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:27:58 + Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Roland Smith wrote: On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 02:48:47PM -0300, Mario Lobo wrote: Concerning this, I've cvsuping to 6-CURRENT on a dual-core desktop.

Re: About Freebsd 7.0 versus 6.3

2007-11-08 Thread Kris Kennaway
Roland Smith wrote: On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 09:32:22PM +0100, Kris Kennaway wrote: You don't need to delete all the ports in one go and then reinstall them in another: running 'portupgrade -fa' will do the job. Port upgrade tools are not guaranteed to work perfectly in this situation. I tried

Re: About Freebsd 7.0 versus 6.3

2007-11-08 Thread Albert Shih
Le 08/11/2007 à 19:32:39+0100, Roland Smith a écrit On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 02:48:47PM -0300, Mario Lobo wrote: Concerning this, I've cvsuping to 6-CURRENT on a dual-core desktop. The system is running well, but I'd really like to move up to 7. Can it be done through cvsup from

Re: About Freebsd 7.0 versus 6.3

2007-11-08 Thread Roland Smith
On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 11:14:13PM +0100, Albert Shih wrote: Be careful if you not using standard shell becauseif you using a shell come from ports Root should _never_ use a shell from ports. You can use the 'toor' account for that. 11. `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party

Re: 7.0 and 6.3

2007-10-27 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
Hi Kris, On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 09:17 +0200, Kris Kennaway wrote: David J Brooks wrote: Bill Moran wrote: Note also that a ports freeze is starting soon for 7.0 and 6.3 release. What are the differences between 6.3 and 7.0? Which should be considered the standard upgrade path from

Re: 7.0 and 6.3

2007-10-25 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 11:00:37AM +0100, Vince wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: David J Brooks wrote: Bill Moran wrote: Note also that a ports freeze is starting soon for 7.0 and 6.3 release. What are the differences between 6.3 and 7.0? Which should be considered the standard upgrade

Re: 7.0 and 6.3

2007-10-25 Thread Jay Chandler
Kris Kennaway wrote: David J Brooks wrote: Bill Moran wrote: Note also that a ports freeze is starting soon for 7.0 and 6.3 release. What are the differences between 6.3 and 7.0? Which should be considered the standard upgrade path from 6.2 release? Is there a compelling reason to upgrade

Re: 7.0 and 6.3

2007-10-25 Thread Kris Kennaway
Jay Chandler wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: David J Brooks wrote: Bill Moran wrote: Note also that a ports freeze is starting soon for 7.0 and 6.3 release. What are the differences between 6.3 and 7.0? Which should be considered the standard upgrade path from 6.2 release

Re: 7.0 and 6.3

2007-10-25 Thread Johan Andersson
On 10/25/2007 11:47 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: Jay Chandler wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: David J Brooks wrote: Bill Moran wrote: Note also that a ports freeze is starting soon for 7.0 and 6.3 release. What are the differences between 6.3 and 7.0? Which should be considered the standard

Re: 7.0 and 6.3

2007-10-25 Thread Jay Chandler
Johan Andersson wrote: On 10/25/2007 11:47 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: Any good oneliner for rebuild all the ports that you recommend? portupgrade -afO -- Jay Chandler / KB1JWQ Living Legend / Systems Exorcist Today's Excuse: Melting hard drives ___

Re: 7.0 and 6.3

2007-10-25 Thread RW
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:32:35 -0700 Jay Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Johan Andersson wrote: On 10/25/2007 11:47 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: Any good oneliner for rebuild all the ports that you recommend? portupgrade -afO Personally I prefer portupgrade -f '2007-10-25 11:00' since

Re: 7.0 and 6.3

2007-10-25 Thread Jay Chandler
RW wrote: On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:32:35 -0700 Jay Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Johan Andersson wrote: On 10/25/2007 11:47 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: Any good oneliner for rebuild all the ports that you recommend? portupgrade -afO Personally I prefer portupgrade -f '2007-10-25 11:00'

Re: 7.0 and 6.3

2007-10-25 Thread RW
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:59:01 -0700 Jay Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RW wrote: On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:32:35 -0700 Jay Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Johan Andersson wrote: On 10/25/2007 11:47 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: Any good oneliner for rebuild all the ports that you

Re: 7.0 and 6.3

2007-10-25 Thread Jay Chandler
RW wrote: On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:59:01 -0700 Jay Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RW wrote: On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:32:35 -0700 Jay Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Johan Andersson wrote: On 10/25/2007 11:47 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: Any good oneliner for rebuild all the ports that you

Re: 7.0 and 6.3

2007-10-24 Thread Kris Kennaway
David J Brooks wrote: Bill Moran wrote: Note also that a ports freeze is starting soon for 7.0 and 6.3 release. What are the differences between 6.3 and 7.0? Which should be considered the standard upgrade path from 6.2 release? Is there a compelling reason to upgrade to one over the other

Re: 7.0 and 6.3

2007-10-24 Thread Ian Smith
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:17:12 +0200 Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] David J Brooks wrote: Bill Moran wrote: Note also that a ports freeze is starting soon for 7.0 and 6.3 release. What are the differences between 6.3 and 7.0? Which should be considered the standard upgrade

Re: 7.0 and 6.3

2007-10-24 Thread Vince
Kris Kennaway wrote: David J Brooks wrote: Bill Moran wrote: Note also that a ports freeze is starting soon for 7.0 and 6.3 release. What are the differences between 6.3 and 7.0? Which should be considered the standard upgrade path from 6.2 release? Is there a compelling reason to upgrade

Re: 7.0 and 6.3

2007-10-24 Thread Kris Kennaway
Vince wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: David J Brooks wrote: Bill Moran wrote: Note also that a ports freeze is starting soon for 7.0 and 6.3 release. What are the differences between 6.3 and 7.0? Which should be considered the standard upgrade path from 6.2 release? Is there a compelling reason

Re: 7.0 and 6.3

2007-10-24 Thread David J Brooks
On Wednesday 24 October 2007 02:17:12 am Kris Kennaway wrote: David J Brooks wrote: Bill Moran wrote: Note also that a ports freeze is starting soon for 7.0 and 6.3 release. What are the differences between 6.3 and 7.0? Which should be considered the standard upgrade path from 6.2

7.0 and 6.3

2007-10-23 Thread David J Brooks
Bill Moran wrote: Note also that a ports freeze is starting soon for 7.0 and 6.3 release. What are the differences between 6.3 and 7.0? Which should be considered the standard upgrade path from 6.2 release? Is there a compelling reason to upgrade to one over the other? David