Re: Booting FreeBSD-5.3 from NTLDR

2005-02-03 Thread Rakhesh Sasidharan
On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 16:05:06 +, Mark Ovens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The limitation is in NTLDR because it's M$ so is only designed for booting M$ OSes and the BOOTSECT file method is designed for booting DOS and non-NT class Windows which could only boot from the first partition on the

Re: Booting FreeBSD-5.3 from NTLDR

2005-02-02 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Tue, Feb 01, 2005 at 07:32:07PM +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote: On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 19:04:07 +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 04:10:49 -0800, Loren M. Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that you should be able to use boot0 and boot1 as a file once

Re: Booting FreeBSD-5.3 from NTLDR

2005-02-02 Thread Rakhesh Sasidharan
On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 01:48:47 -0800, Loren M. Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless BootPart specifically know about how the freebsd boot loaders work and how to reconize them, I doubt that it's modifying those parameters. Now the last 66 bytes of the MBR stores the partition table of the hard

Re: Booting FreeBSD-5.3 from NTLDR

2005-02-02 Thread Mark Ovens
Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote: On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 01:48:47 -0800, Loren M. Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless BootPart specifically know about how the freebsd boot loaders work and how to reconize them, I doubt that it's modifying those parameters. Now the last 66 bytes of the MBR stores the

Re: Booting FreeBSD-5.3 from NTLDR

2005-02-01 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Tue, Feb 01, 2005 at 10:04:12AM +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote: On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:06:39 +, Mark Ovens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hehe! I did it the hard way; I manually recreated the partition table - 3 partitions! In fact.[roots around in drawer]..yes, still got the

Re: Booting FreeBSD-5.3 from NTLDR

2005-02-01 Thread Rakhesh Sasidharan
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 04:10:49 -0800, Loren M. Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that you should be able to use boot0 and boot1 as a file once the apropriate fields are filled in. When boot0 and boot1 are written to the disk in their special locations, several bytes of each file are modified

Re: Booting FreeBSD-5.3 from NTLDR

2005-02-01 Thread Rakhesh Sasidharan
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 19:04:07 +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 04:10:49 -0800, Loren M. Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that you should be able to use boot0 and boot1 as a file once the apropriate fields are filled in. When boot0 and boot1 are written

Re: Booting FreeBSD-5.3 from NTLDR

2005-01-31 Thread Mark Ovens
Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote: No, boot0 is just a normal file that is 512 bytes long. There is nothing special about it. In it is a bootloader program that can be used to boot FreeBSD, and if you run it during boot, it will read the partition table and look for all OSes. I think it will modify the

Re: Booting FreeBSD-5.3 from NTLDR

2005-01-31 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 11:59:11AM +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote: No, boot0 is just a normal file that is 512 bytes long. There is nothing special about it. In it is a bootloader program that can be used to boot FreeBSD, and if you run it during boot, it will read the partition table

Re: Booting FreeBSD-5.3 from NTLDR

2005-01-31 Thread Rakhesh Sasidharan
Thanks for that link! I had read that part of the handbook a long time ago, and that's how my ideas of boot0 and boot1 and etc etc had gotten clear. Glad to see it once again -- in the context of my question! :)) So what I understand now is -- copying boot0 over to c:\bootsect.bsd will *not*

Re: Booting FreeBSD-5.3 from NTLDR

2005-01-31 Thread Rakhesh Sasidharan
So that means I should install boot0 to the MBR of my second disk, using boot0cfg with the -o noupdate flag, and then extract that MBR (using dd for instance) to a file like c:\bootsectbsd? That should work? Or wait, maybe there's no need to extract. When I install boot0 to the MBR, possibly the

Re: Booting FreeBSD-5.3 from NTLDR

2005-01-31 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 02:16:25PM +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote: Thanks for that link! I had read that part of the handbook a long time ago, and that's how my ideas of boot0 and boot1 and etc etc had gotten clear. Glad to see it once again -- in the context of my question! :)) So what I

Re: Booting FreeBSD-5.3 from NTLDR

2005-01-31 Thread Mark Ovens
Loren M. Lang wrote: On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 02:16:25PM +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote: Thanks for that link! I had read that part of the handbook a long time ago, and that's how my ideas of boot0 and boot1 and etc etc had gotten clear. Glad to see it once again -- in the context of my question!

Re: Booting FreeBSD-5.3 from NTLDR

2005-01-31 Thread Rakhesh Sasidharan
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:33:59 +, Mark Ovens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I rewrote that section of the FAQ years ago (around FreeBSD 3.1!!) because the previous wording was unclear and I did _exactly_ what Rakhesh has done :-( Ah! Glad to see I am not the only one. :))) Felt really goofy when I

Re: Booting FreeBSD-5.3 from NTLDR

2005-01-31 Thread Mark Ovens
Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote: On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:33:59 +, Mark Ovens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I rewrote that section of the FAQ years ago (around FreeBSD 3.1!!) because the previous wording was unclear and I did _exactly_ what Rakhesh has done :-( Ah! Glad to see I am not the only one. :)))

Re: Booting FreeBSD-5.3 from NTLDR

2005-01-31 Thread Joe Kraft
Joe Kraft wrote: Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote: I'm doing it with Win2k, I haven't tried it yet with XP though. And I'll preface this, with I'm doing this from memory because I can't find the web page they originally came from. Shame on me for taking a stab at this one without confirming what I was

Re: Booting FreeBSD-5.3 from NTLDR

2005-01-31 Thread Rakhesh Sasidharan
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:06:39 +, Mark Ovens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hehe! I did it the hard way; I manually recreated the partition table - 3 partitions! In fact.[roots around in drawer]..yes, still got the printout of the spreadsheet I used to calculated the start and end CHS

Re: Booting FreeBSD-5.3 from NTLDR

2005-01-31 Thread Rakhesh Sasidharan
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 17:22:48 +, Joe Kraft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This should have said boot1, for all the reasons mentioned in the rest of the thread and in the handbook. Sorry, Nah! boot1 does not work either! I've tried ... I guess it might work if FreeBSD is on the first disk, but it

Re: Booting FreeBSD-5.3 from NTLDR

2005-01-30 Thread Joe Kraft
Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote: I didnt see a copy of this mail returned to me, so am sure if it has reached the list. Since I just subscribed, its possible something is wrong -- and so am resending it. Sorry for the inconv. :)) On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 10:47:41 +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Booting FreeBSD-5.3 from NTLDR

2005-01-30 Thread Rakhesh Sasidharan
Hi Joe! Thanks for that. I'll try that today evening from home, and see how it goes. :)) But now here's something else. A doubt actually, based on what you said. I didn't mention this in my previous post -- but I had infact copied the /boot/boot0 file to my WinXP partition (though I can't

Re: Booting FreeBSD-5.3 from NTLDR

2005-01-30 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Sun, Jan 30, 2005 at 03:35:45PM +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote: Hi Joe! Thanks for that. I'll try that today evening from home, and see how it goes. :)) But now here's something else. A doubt actually, based on what you said. I didn't mention this in my previous post -- but I had

Re: Booting FreeBSD-5.3 from NTLDR

2005-01-30 Thread Gustavo De Nardin
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 10:47:41 +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any issues in booting FreeBSD using NTLDR? My machine has Windows XP, Fedora Core 3, and FreeBSD-5.3, and while I know I can use GRUB to boot FreeBSD, I want to try booting it using NTLDR. Just for kicks

Re: Booting FreeBSD-5.3 from NTLDR

2005-01-30 Thread Rakhesh Sasidharan
No, boot0 is just a normal file that is 512 bytes long. There is nothing special about it. In it is a bootloader program that can be used to boot FreeBSD, and if you run it during boot, it will read the partition table and look for all OSes. I think it will modify the partition table,

Booting FreeBSD-5.3 from NTLDR

2005-01-29 Thread Rakhesh Sasidharan
Hi, Are there any issues in booting FreeBSD using NTLDR? My machine has Windows XP, Fedora Core 3, and FreeBSD-5.3, and while I know I can use GRUB to boot FreeBSD, I want to try booting it using NTLDR. Just for kicks -- its something I haven't tried so far. :)) My ad0 disk has WinXP (and

Re: Booting FreeBSD-5.3 from NTLDR

2005-01-29 Thread Rakhesh Sasidharan
I didnt see a copy of this mail returned to me, so am sure if it has reached the list. Since I just subscribed, its possible something is wrong -- and so am resending it. Sorry for the inconv. :)) On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 10:47:41 +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Are there