Re: question about posting to FreeBSD mailing lists

2008-06-14 Thread Novembre
RW fbsd06 at mlists.homeunix.com writes:


 gmane.org offers many mailing lists via its news.gmane.org server and
 most of the lists will allow posting. You need a real email address to
 post, because the first one has to verified.
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Great...this is exactly what I needed. Thanks so much :)

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Re: question about posting to FreeBSD mailing lists

2008-06-13 Thread RW
On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:12:30 +0200
Tore Lund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Novembre wrote:
  On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 6:59 AM, Tore Lund [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  I'm sorry, but I didn't quite get it. Do you mean that if I
  subscribe to the newsgroup which mirrors the list, and if I answer
  the question in the newsgroup, then it will be shown properly in
  the freebsd mailing lists as well? I mean, is the mirroring one way
  or both-ways?
 
 The mirroring is one-way only.  What I do in Thunderbird is to hit
 Reply to All, delete the address lines beginning with muc* and add
 the address line To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org.

gmane.org offers many mailing lists via its news.gmane.org server and 
most of the lists will allow posting. You need a real email address to
post, because the first one has to verified. 
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Re: question about posting to FreeBSD mailing lists

2008-06-12 Thread Novembre
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 6:59 AM, Tore Lund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Novembre wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Is there any way to answer the posts in the mailing lists if one is not
  subscribed to the list and does not receive them in his mailbox? From
 time
  to time, I see posts which I can actually answer and contribute to, but
  since I'm not subscribed to the lists, even if I post an answer to the
  person asking the question and CC it to the list, it doesn't regroup with
  other posts on the same topic. Is there any way around this?

 Besides what Randy wrote, several mailing lists are mirrored to
 newsgroups.  I subscribe to muc.lists.freebsd.questions, even though I
 am subscribed to the list.  (I prefer not to receive all that stuff as
 e-mail.)  When answering a post, I have to edit the addresses, but my
 answer is then threaded properly.
 --
 Tore




I'm sorry, but I didn't quite get it. Do you mean that if I subscribe to the
newsgroup which mirrors the list, and if I answer the question in the
newsgroup, then it will be shown properly in the freebsd mailing lists as
well? I mean, is the mirroring one way or both-ways?

Thanks :)
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Re: question about posting to FreeBSD mailing lists

2008-06-12 Thread Novembre
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Andrew Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On 10-Jun-08, at 12:10 AM, Novembre wrote:

  So to be more specific, how can I answer to a post from a mailing list
 from
 within my, e.g., GMail or Yahoo! mailboxes?


 You might be able to use telnet to open a connection to Google's SMTP
 servers, and paste the entire message, headers included, into the
 transmission. You'd have to know how to manually use SMTP and hope that
 Google accepts email from your machine. You could also look into writing a
 script in (Perl or Python would be good) to allow you to do it yourself, so
 you would have control over most of the headers.

 --Andrew




I tried to telnet to smtp.gmail.com, but it didn't work. Is that what you
meant?
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Re: question about posting to FreeBSD mailing lists

2008-06-12 Thread Tore Lund
Novembre wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 6:59 AM, Tore Lund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Novembre wrote:
 Hi,

 Is there any way to answer the posts in the mailing lists if one is not
 subscribed to the list and does not receive them in his mailbox? From
 time
 to time, I see posts which I can actually answer and contribute to, but
 since I'm not subscribed to the lists, even if I post an answer to the
 person asking the question and CC it to the list, it doesn't regroup with
 other posts on the same topic. Is there any way around this?
 Besides what Randy wrote, several mailing lists are mirrored to
 newsgroups.  I subscribe to muc.lists.freebsd.questions, even though I
 am subscribed to the list.  (I prefer not to receive all that stuff as
 e-mail.)  When answering a post, I have to edit the addresses, but my
 answer is then threaded properly.
 --
 Tore
 
 I'm sorry, but I didn't quite get it. Do you mean that if I subscribe to the
 newsgroup which mirrors the list, and if I answer the question in the
 newsgroup, then it will be shown properly in the freebsd mailing lists as
 well? I mean, is the mirroring one way or both-ways?

The mirroring is one-way only.  What I do in Thunderbird is to hit
Reply to All, delete the address lines beginning with muc* and add
the address line To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org.

I believe you said you were using a browser, so I don't know if what I
describe can be done through some web site.  But it works fine for me in
Thunderbird, and it will probably work fine in any other newsreader.
-- 
Tore

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Re: question about posting to FreeBSD mailing lists

2008-06-12 Thread Andrew Berry

Novembre wrote:

I tried to telnet to smtp.gmail.com, but it didn't work. Is that what you
meant?


Pretty much. The problem you're having is caused partially by being 
unable to manually set headers in many mail clients. If you have a 
server with Sendmail set up which can send outbound email you might be 
able to do it that way as well, by copying the message from the web and 
then sending the whole text instead of just the body.


--Andrew


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Re: question about posting to FreeBSD mailing lists

2008-06-11 Thread Oliver Fromme
Hello,

Novembre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The problem is that I don't use any mail client, but the old fashion way of
  using a web browser to log into my account and read my emails. That's why I
  asked this question in the first place. Call me paranoid, but I just feel
  more comfortable that way!
  So to be more specific, how can I answer to a post from a mailing list from
  within my, e.g., GMail or Yahoo! mailboxes? Is there any way to use the Raw
  E-Mail output to send an email from within GMail to the OP and the list so
  that it's threaded properly as well?

You need to take the Message-ID header of the message
that you're replying to, and put it into the In-Reply-To
header of your response.  That's what a standard mail
client does when you reply to a message.

The In-Reply-To header is used by clients and webmailers
to identify the thread and the order of messages within
that thread.

I've never used Gmail or Yahoo, so I don't know if they
provide a way to manually set the In-Reply-To header.
If they don't you're out of luck, I'm afraid.

By the way, I'm in a similar situation:  I'm not subscribed
to the lists, but I read them with a news client via an
NNTP gateway.  That gateway is one-way, i.e. I cannot post
follow-ups to the news groups.  Instead I use the reply-by-
mail function of the news client.  This works well, because
the NNTP gateway sets the Reply-To back to the list's
mail address (unless there already was a Reply-To header in
the original mail, which is kept), and I configured my news
client to copy the Message-ID into an In-Reply-To header,
so it works as expected.

Best regards
   Oliver

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Re: question about posting to FreeBSD mailing lists

2008-06-10 Thread Andrew Berry

On 10-Jun-08, at 12:10 AM, Novembre wrote:

So to be more specific, how can I answer to a post from a mailing  
list from

within my, e.g., GMail or Yahoo! mailboxes?


You might be able to use telnet to open a connection to Google's SMTP  
servers, and paste the entire message, headers included, into the  
transmission. You'd have to know how to manually use SMTP and hope  
that Google accepts email from your machine. You could also look into  
writing a script in (Perl or Python would be good) to allow you to do  
it yourself, so you would have control over most of the headers.


--Andrew

Re: question about posting to FreeBSD mailing lists

2008-06-09 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 6:22 AM, Novembre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 Is there any way to answer the posts in the mailing lists if one is not
 subscribed to the list and does not receive them in his mailbox? From time
 to time, I see posts which I can actually answer and contribute to, but
 since I'm not subscribed to the lists, even if I post an answer to the
 person asking the question and CC it to the list, it doesn't regroup with
 other posts on the same topic. Is there any way around this?


How do you receive them if you are not subscribed to the list? Some magic?
What stops you from subscribing?:-)


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Re: question about posting to FreeBSD mailing lists

2008-06-09 Thread Randy Pratt
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:22:24 -0500
Novembre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Is there any way to answer the posts in the mailing lists if one is not
 subscribed to the list and does not receive them in his mailbox? From time
 to time, I see posts which I can actually answer and contribute to, but
 since I'm not subscribed to the lists, even if I post an answer to the
 person asking the question and CC it to the list, it doesn't regroup with
 other posts on the same topic. Is there any way around this?

If you are reading the mailing lists via the FreeBSD website
(http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/current/freebsd-questions.html)
you can use the Raw E-Mail link of a posting to fetch a
copy and incorporate it into your mail client.

Two common mail formats are pine mail (one file per folder),
and MH mail (one file per message).  I use Sylpheed which uses
MH mail format so its quite easy.  I created a folder called
Mail/web-list and fetch the mail directly to it.  The trick
is to use the next numerical message number, in this example
114:

  cd ~/Mail/web-list
  fetch -R -o 114 
'http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=422834+0+current/freebsd-questions+raw'

It is then possible to just use Sylpheed normally and click
on Reply to All.  The mail will be properly threaded for
the mailing lists.

I've not used the one file per folder type of mail client
in a very long time but I would think that just appending
the new mail to the end would suffice.  

You will need to investigate how your particular mail client
operates and what format it uses, but what you want to do
is possible.  I would recommend backing up your mail before
experimenting and using the test mailing list
([EMAIL PROTECTED]).

HTH,

Randy
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Re: question about posting to FreeBSD mailing lists

2008-06-09 Thread Tore Lund
Novembre wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Is there any way to answer the posts in the mailing lists if one is not
 subscribed to the list and does not receive them in his mailbox? From time
 to time, I see posts which I can actually answer and contribute to, but
 since I'm not subscribed to the lists, even if I post an answer to the
 person asking the question and CC it to the list, it doesn't regroup with
 other posts on the same topic. Is there any way around this?

Besides what Randy wrote, several mailing lists are mirrored to
newsgroups.  I subscribe to muc.lists.freebsd.questions, even though I
am subscribed to the list.  (I prefer not to receive all that stuff as
e-mail.)  When answering a post, I have to edit the addresses, but my
answer is then threaded properly.
-- 
Tore

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Re: question about posting to FreeBSD mailing lists

2008-06-09 Thread Novembre
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:42 AM, Odhiambo Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 6:22 AM, Novembre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Is there any way to answer the posts in the mailing lists if one is not
  subscribed to the list and does not receive them in his mailbox? From
 time
  to time, I see posts which I can actually answer and contribute to, but
  since I'm not subscribed to the lists, even if I post an answer to the
  person asking the question and CC it to the list, it doesn't regroup with
  other posts on the same topic. Is there any way around this?
 

 How do you receive them if you are not subscribed to the list? Some magic?
 What stops you from subscribing?:-)


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 old.



Nothing stops me from subscribing to any list, just that I don't like to get
too many emails in my mailbox. In fact, I am subscribed to two of the lists
(x11 and current), but I chose not to get the emails. And I use my web
browser to read the messages, e.g.
http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/current/freebsd-questions.html .
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Re: question about posting to FreeBSD mailing lists

2008-06-09 Thread Novembre
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 5:40 AM, Randy Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:22:24 -0500
 Novembre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi,
 
  Is there any way to answer the posts in the mailing lists if one is not
  subscribed to the list and does not receive them in his mailbox? From
 time
  to time, I see posts which I can actually answer and contribute to, but
  since I'm not subscribed to the lists, even if I post an answer to the
  person asking the question and CC it to the list, it doesn't regroup with
  other posts on the same topic. Is there any way around this?

 If you are reading the mailing lists via the FreeBSD website
 (http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/current/freebsd-questions.html)
 you can use the Raw E-Mail link of a posting to fetch a
 copy and incorporate it into your mail client.

 Two common mail formats are pine mail (one file per folder),
 and MH mail (one file per message).  I use Sylpheed which uses
 MH mail format so its quite easy.  I created a folder called
 Mail/web-list and fetch the mail directly to it.  The trick
 is to use the next numerical message number, in this example
 114:

  cd ~/Mail/web-list
  fetch -R -o 114 '
 http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=422834+0+current/freebsd-questions+raw
 '

 It is then possible to just use Sylpheed normally and click
 on Reply to All.  The mail will be properly threaded for
 the mailing lists.

 I've not used the one file per folder type of mail client
 in a very long time but I would think that just appending
 the new mail to the end would suffice.

 You will need to investigate how your particular mail client
 operates and what format it uses, but what you want to do
 is possible.  I would recommend backing up your mail before
 experimenting and using the test mailing list
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).

 HTH,

 Randy
 --


The problem is that I don't use any mail client, but the old fashion way of
using a web browser to log into my account and read my emails. That's why I
asked this question in the first place. Call me paranoid, but I just feel
more comfortable that way!
So to be more specific, how can I answer to a post from a mailing list from
within my, e.g., GMail or Yahoo! mailboxes? Is there any way to use the Raw
E-Mail output to send an email from within GMail to the OP and the list so
that it's threaded properly as well?

I will remember your instructions whenever I started using a mail client.
Maybe I should do it anyway --- how is Claw Mail?

Thanks a lot :)
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question about posting to FreeBSD mailing lists

2008-06-08 Thread Novembre
Hi,

Is there any way to answer the posts in the mailing lists if one is not
subscribed to the list and does not receive them in his mailbox? From time
to time, I see posts which I can actually answer and contribute to, but
since I'm not subscribed to the lists, even if I post an answer to the
person asking the question and CC it to the list, it doesn't regroup with
other posts on the same topic. Is there any way around this?

Thanks :)
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Re: Recipient list on FreeBSD mailing lists

2006-03-02 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Thu, 2006-03-02 at 01:25 -0500, David Scheidt wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 04:50:56PM +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
  
  Various other mailing lists dictates that posters reply to the list and
  not the list _and_ the OP.
  
  Guess this is different.
  
  I still prefer for messages to be sent to the list.
 
 Most people reading FreeBSD mailing lists are doing so in their spare
 time, or are only following things they find interesting.  I delete 99%
 of -questions without reading it, because I know from the subject
 lines that someone will already have answered the question before I
 get around to reading -questions, which is maybe two or three times a
 week.  I expect that's typical.  CC'ing the recipient helps insure
 that they see the response.  

I get the idea. Okay then, I'll abide.

(anyway, it's easier for me now then, since I don't have to manually cut
the cc to the to


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Re: Recipient list on FreeBSD mailing lists

2006-03-02 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2006-03-02 15:51, Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 (anyway, it's easier for me now then, since I don't have to manually cut
 the cc to the to

Some level of attention *is* required, mind you.  For instance,
if you see recipients like:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

It's good to know when these are duplicates (aliases for the same
list), and remove one of them.  It certainly saves many hundreds
of duplicate posts that the FreeBSD.org mail server has to handle :)

- Giorgos

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Recipient list on FreeBSD mailing lists

2006-03-01 Thread Parv
in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote Ow
Mun Heng thusly...

 PS : why is it that this list To's the replies directly to the
 person answering and cc's the list instead of To'ing the list
 only??

I notice the same query in one of your previous messages; thought
that by now you would have got a response.  It seems that is not
the case, so ...

  The guideline is to copy both the OP and the list as not everybody
  who posts a message is subscribed.


See also point 6 ...

  
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/article.html#AEN218


I personally would delete an address if the owner of that address
explicitly requests not to send him/her a copy.

Personal judgment about the recipient list  behaviour of mail
clients also affect the mail headers.  For an example of (modifying)
mail client (behaviour wrt mailing lists), see mutt manual and read
the sections containing mail-followup ...

  http://www.mutt.org/doc/devel/manual.txt


  - Parv

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Re: Recipient list on FreeBSD mailing lists

2006-03-01 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 03:33 -0500, Parv wrote:
 in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote Ow
 Mun Heng thusly...
 
  PS : why is it that this list To's the replies directly to the
  person answering and cc's the list instead of To'ing the list
  only??

   The guideline is to copy both the OP and the list as not everybody
   who posts a message is subscribed.

I see. So that's the rules of this mail-list. er.. does this also mean
that everyone can post to this list w/o registering?

 
 See also point 6 ...
 
   
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/article.html#AEN218

Hmm.. didn't see that. (Actually, I didn't read/search for it when I
subscribed to the list)
 
 I personally would delete an address if the owner of that address
 explicitly requests not to send him/her a copy.

That would be hard to remember.

 Personal judgment about the recipient list  behaviour of mail

Various other mailing lists dictates that posters reply to the list and
not the list _and_ the OP.

Guess this is different.

I still prefer for messages to be sent to the list.

Many Thanks for the explanation.

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Re: Recipient list on FreeBSD mailing lists

2006-03-01 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 03:33 -0500, Parv wrote:
  in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote Ow
  Mun Heng thusly...
  
   PS : why is it that this list To's the replies directly to the
   person answering and cc's the list instead of To'ing the list
   only??
 
The guideline is to copy both the OP and the list as not everybody
who posts a message is subscribed.
 
 I see. So that's the rules of this mail-list. er.. does this also mean
 that everyone can post to this list w/o registering?

This is the most general and public of the mailing lists for FreeBSD so 
it is managed in that most open of ways.I beleive some spam blocking
is employed though.

jerry

 
  
  See also point 6 ...
  

  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/article.html#AEN218
 
 Hmm.. didn't see that. (Actually, I didn't read/search for it when I
 subscribed to the list)
  
  I personally would delete an address if the owner of that address
  explicitly requests not to send him/her a copy.
 
 That would be hard to remember.
 
  Personal judgment about the recipient list  behaviour of mail
 
 Various other mailing lists dictates that posters reply to the list and
 not the list _and_ the OP.
 
 Guess this is different.
 
 I still prefer for messages to be sent to the list.
 
 Many Thanks for the explanation.
 
 -- 
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 Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 1.5GB RAM
 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! 
 Neuromancer 16:48:28 up 4:05, 3 users, load average: 0.29, 0.90, 0.82 
 
 
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Re: Recipient list on FreeBSD mailing lists

2006-03-01 Thread David Scheidt
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 04:50:56PM +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
 
 On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 03:33 -0500, Parv wrote:
  in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote Ow
  Mun Heng thusly...
  
   PS : why is it that this list To's the replies directly to the
   person answering and cc's the list instead of To'ing the list
   only??
 
The guideline is to copy both the OP and the list as not everybody
who posts a message is subscribed.
 
 I see. So that's the rules of this mail-list. er.. does this also mean
 that everyone can post to this list w/o registering?

Yes.  This is a support list; making people subscribe places a big
barrier to support...

 
 Various other mailing lists dictates that posters reply to the list and
 not the list _and_ the OP.
 
 Guess this is different.
 
 I still prefer for messages to be sent to the list.

Most people reading FreeBSD mailing lists are doing so in their spare
time, or are only following things they find interesting.  I delete 99%
of -questions without reading it, because I know from the subject
lines that someone will already have answered the question before I
get around to reading -questions, which is maybe two or three times a
week.  I expect that's typical.  CC'ing the recipient helps insure
that they see the response.  

David
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Re: FreeBSD mailing lists

2004-06-05 Thread Ben Paley
On Friday 21 May 2004 12:41, Mike Jeays wrote:
 Hi!

 I have received no messages at all from freebsd-questions, or one or two
 of the other FreeBSD mailing lists, for about 2 days.  Do you know if
 there is a problem at their end, or has perhaps my ISP decided they are
 all spam?

Sorry, I've been away, so I'm not sure. I expect you got this sorted by now.

Ben
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2004-05-21 Thread Mike Jeays
Hi!

I have received no messages at all from freebsd-questions, or one or two
of the other FreeBSD mailing lists, for about 2 days.  Do you know if
there is a problem at their end, or has perhaps my ISP decided they are
all spam?



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Re: FreeBSD mailing lists

2004-05-21 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 07:41:08AM -0400, Mike Jeays wrote:
 Hi!
 
 I have received no messages at all from freebsd-questions, or one or two
 of the other FreeBSD mailing lists, for about 2 days.  Do you know if
 there is a problem at their end, or has perhaps my ISP decided they are
 all spam?

There's nothing wrong with list delivery at the moment.  Check your
subscription status with the mailman interface on lists.freebsd.org;
perhaps your mail delivery was bouncing and your subscription was
suspended.

Kris


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Re: FreeBSD mailing lists

2004-05-21 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 07:41:08AM -0400, Mike Jeays wrote:

 I have received no messages at all from freebsd-questions, or one or two
 of the other FreeBSD mailing lists, for about 2 days.  Do you know if
 there is a problem at their end, or has perhaps my ISP decided they are
 all spam?

Well, there's no obvious problem with the FreeBSD servers -- plenty of
e-mail traffic flowing.  There might be a problem sending to your
system specifically, in which case you can check and see if your
address has been suspended via MailMan:

Go here:

http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions

and then type in your e-mail address in the very last field on that
page, and click 'Unsubscribe or edit options'.  On the next page,
enter your password (you should get a monthly reminder of what your it
is) and click 'login'.  You'll be able to verify and modify your
subscription status from the page you get to.

Sending messages to your e-mail address will be disabled if your
bounce score goes above 5.0 or if there are configuration errors with
the mail servers you are trying to use.  If it's your ISP bouncing the
e-mail then get a better ISP.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: FreeBSD mailing lists

2004-05-21 Thread Andy Smith
On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 07:41:08AM -0400, Mike Jeays wrote:
 Hi!
 
 I have received no messages at all from freebsd-questions, or one or two
 of the other FreeBSD mailing lists, for about 2 days.  Do you know if
 there is a problem at their end, or has perhaps my ISP decided they are
 all spam?

In addition to the other suggestions, you can also check if the list
is getting messages by looking at the list archives on
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/

As well as the other web-accessible list archives there is also
gmane which seems to carry all of the FreeBSD lists, is accessible
via usenet or http, and allows you to read, search and post.  gmane
is great!

http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.freebsd.questions/

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Appropriate use of FreeBSD mailing lists (was: Wireless(if_wi): supported card attachment problems)

2003-02-09 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Saturday,  8 February 2003 at 14:01:17 +0100, Andrea Franceschini wrote:
 Hi All!

 I bought a card that, according to the man page of wi driver, should have been 
supported.
 The card is a Sohoware/NCP 130 and this is the output of 'man wi':

On Saturday,  8 February 2003 at 14:01:34 +0100, Andrea Franceschini wrote:
 Hi All!

 I bought a card that, according to the man page of wi driver, should have been 
supported.
 The card is a Sohoware/NCP 130 and this is the output of 'man wi':

On Sunday,  9 February 2003 at 14:18:45 +0100, Andrea Franceschini wrote:
 Hi All!

 I bought a card that, according to the man page of wi driver, should have been 
supported.
 The card is a Sohoware/NCP 130 and this is the output of 'man wi':

On Sunday,  9 February 2003 at 14:20:25 +0100, Andrea Franceschini wrote:
 Hi All!

 I bought a card that, according to the man page of wi driver, should have been 
supported.
 The card is a Sohoware/NCP 130 and this is the output of 'man wi':

On Sunday,  9 February 2003 at 14:20:50 +0100, Andrea Franceschini wrote:
 Hi All!

 I bought a card that, according to the man page of wi driver, should have been 
supported.
 The card is a Sohoware/NCP 130 and this is the output of 'man wi':

On Sunday,  9 February 2003 at 14:28:29 +0100, Andrea Franceschini wrote:
 Just a test.

On Sunday,  9 February 2003 at 14:41:03 +0100, Andrea Franceschini wrote:
 Just a test.

On Sunday,  9 February 2003 at 15:40:19 +0100, Andrea Franceschini wrote:
 Hi All!

 I bought a card that, according to the man page of wi driver, should have been 
supported.
 The card is a Sohoware/NCP 130 and this is the output of 'man wi':

Please do not send messages more than once.  

Please also don't post separate messages to different mailing lists
(this message was sent to FreeBSD-hardware as well, where it is off
topic).

Please also do not send test messages to FreeBSD-questions.  Use
FreeBSD-test for that purpose.

There are thousands of people on FreeBSD-questions.  Each of these
messages gets delivered to each of them.  The result is that you will
annoy people and lower your chances of getting a useful reply.

Greg
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OT: FreeBSD mailing lists and DNS

2002-10-16 Thread Carlos Carnero

Hi,

I can't send email to the FreeBSD lists because my DNS
configuration is hosed--the bit from my ISP, not my
own bind :)

Anyway, is there a site that could tell me what the
nameservers outside my network see for my domain?

Best regarads,
Carlos.

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Re: OT: FreeBSD mailing lists and DNS

2002-10-16 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik



On Wed, 16 Oct 2002, Carlos Carnero wrote:

 Anyway, is there a site that could tell me what the
 nameservers outside my network see for my domain?

Try 'dig'

dig www.foo.com @123.123.123.123

tells you how www.foo.com resolves at 123.123.123.123. Assuming
that 123.123.123.123 lets you use its named.

The trick now is to find a named which lets you use it that way. A lot fo
them do.

Dw


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Re: OT: FreeBSD mailing lists and DNS

2002-10-16 Thread MikeM

On 10/16/02 at 6:53 AM Carlos Carnero wrote:

|Hi,
|
|I can't send email to the FreeBSD lists because my DNS
|configuration is hosed--the bit from my ISP, not my
|own bind :)
|
|Anyway, is there a site that could tell me what the
|nameservers outside my network see for my domain?
 =

Try http://www.dnsreport.com


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Re: FreeBSD mailing lists and DNS

2002-10-16 Thread Unix Tools

dig at a.gtld-servers.net

dig @a.gtld-servers.net YOURDOMAINNAME


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From: Carlos Carnero [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 07:23 PM
Subject: OT: FreeBSD mailing lists and DNS


 Hi,
 
 I can't send email to the FreeBSD lists because my DNS
 configuration is hosed--the bit from my ISP, not my
 own bind :)
 
 Anyway, is there a site that could tell me what the
 nameservers outside my network see for my domain?
 
 Best regarads,
 Carlos.
 
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